Israel Uncensored: The Significance of the Golan

now Jason here Israel uncensored the Land of Israel network at the lamentable calm it is Monday March 25th 2019 and is the 18th of Aadhaar bet five seven seven nine hope everyone out there had a wonderful Purim holiday those who celebrate the holiday for him certainly was a joyous time seems like it was so long ago already because here we are on Monday morning in Jerusalem and just several hours ago a rocket was fired from Gaza hitting a moshav a community in the center of the country in the shinrin region Palestinian Islamic Jihad as they are called taking credit for this rocket and it was a direct hit on a house in Israeli house with seven according to my gun Davina dome seven reported injuries including a six-year-old woman who was in moderate condition with shrapnel wounds a thirty woman in moderate condition rather a thirty year old woman in moderate condition also with shrapnel wounds five people who were slightly injured if I'm talking a little bit fast I mean the news is coming in fast and furious listening to the radio on the way here with updates on the situation Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu who is in Washington right now scheduled to meet in a few hours with President Donald Trump he has decided to shorten his trip and come back as a result of the rocket fire into the Sharon region he will be meeting with the President and then apparently he will not be speaking at AIPAC that speech was scheduled for tomorrow other victims at the scene treated for shock I know there were animals killed so here you have another escalation coming out of Gaza last week you had two rockets fired into Tel Aviv which some say were were a mistake some sort of rocket technician made a mistake press the button that looks I think less likely at this point with another rocket scoring a direct hit on a house in the center of the country and I've expressed it on the show before I mean my problem is and I understand the Prime Minister's cuttings at reading his trip short he's coming back would he have cut his trip short if a rocket hit a house in starid that's the question and I it seems that there's this double standard that if you fire into the center of the country then it warrants emergency meetings by the top military brass it warns the Prime Minister canceling his speech at AIPAC and coming back early I don't understand maybe somebody out there can explain to me what seems to be this double standard which bothers me very much that the lives of the residents of southern Israel somehow are not as important of those as those in the centre of the country that's the perception that I'm getting I mean the south of Israel has had thousands and thousands of rockets and I understand ultimately Israel went into Gaza three separate times but the responses that we're seeing and the just the overall attitude makes me sad it makes me sad to think that someone would believe that a rocket on Tel Aviv is different from a moral perspective than a rocket on steroids or 'ti of the country lives in the greater Tel Aviv area I understand that I get that but each and every rocket wherever they fall here in Israel should be I believe treated accordingly and I also don't subscribe I was listening to the radio on the way here and they were talking about when a rocket hits a building and people are injured that is deemed to be more severe than when a rocket lands in an open field I think that that should not be the policy it should not be the policy to respond based on the damage that the rocket does I think it should be viewed in the same light whether or not a rocket hits directly just because the rocket didn't hit the exact target or hit a target and cause damage or god forbid or worse that doesn't mean his ocean should have a policy of a less of a response what are we waiting for are we saying that we're waiting for it god forbid a school to get hit in a rocket attack and kids to be god forbid who knows what before Israel respond just because it's a near-miss and this morning was a direct hit and thank God nobody's in life-threatening danger just because of that a response should not be a weaker that's my opinion on the matter let me know what you think Josh at the Land of Israel calm on facebook it's Joshua hastin or my new page Josh haste in Israel advocacy in journalism on Twitter at Josh hastin and now on Instagram as well we are actually going to be speaking to Sorrell my dad Winky as he is known for them knock on Bagan Heritage Center also a columnist at the Jerusalem Post the historian just a a an amazing person with so much with vast information on so many different things we're gonna be talking to him the whole coming into this morning I was gonna focus on the fact that the US President Trump tweeted that the United States was going to recognize Israeli sovereignty over the Golan I mean that was gonna be top story and we will still talk to Easter la edad about that the announcement I heard Ron Dermer speak at AIPAC very early this morning Israel time late last night in the US and that recognition US recognition over Israeli sovereignty over the Golan may in fact come during the meeting between Netanyahu and Trump perhaps by the time you are hearing this broadcast so that is also major news at the same time from a pack both Romania and Honduras indicating at least in their respective talks there at AIPAC that they were going to be moving the embassy of their country of their nations to Jerusalem the Jerusalem Post front page this this says the leaders of Romania and Honduras separately told the AIPAC conference on Sunday their countries will relocate the embassies to Jerusalem but it's not clear whether either of the moves will actually materialize you have the Romanian Prime Minister made the statement only to be rebuffed by the Romanian President and then Honduras said that maybe we're not exactly talking about an embassy maybe were talking about some kind of other office sort of like a consulate but not really an embassy so we'll have to see how it plays out I mean it definitely played out well in front of the crowd there at AIPAC yesterday but we'll have to see if in fact Romania Romania and Honduras will join in the u.s. and I believe who is it Guatemala that also has an embassy in Jerusalem yes Lloyd wah Tamala who followed the u.s. lead and fully moved his embassy to Jerusalem so a lot of action over there at AIPAC and we'll have to see how things change now that Prime Minister Netanyahu apparently will not be speaking at that policy conference at the same time another meeting was taking place just several days ago the UN human so-called Human Rights Council this sham of a group getting together time and time again calling out Israel as required in their mandate in line item number 7 each and every time they meet nothing really different this time the UN Human Rights Council voted 23 to 8 for an armed arms embargo against Israel and the prosecution of Israelis for war crimes over IDF action along the Gaza border of course they don't talk about Hamas they don't mention any Hamas attempts to infiltrate our country and murder the first Jew they see the violent riots at the border the attempted infiltrations all that stuff is ignored instead the focuses focuses on Israel that resolution was one of five anti-israel resolutions which the UN HRC approved on Friday in Geneva as it wrapped up its 40th session the only Australia the only country who voted against all five that of the texts neither Israel nor the US are members of the council so thank you very much the moral and a wonderful country down under Australia for standing up for what's right and being on the right side of history here there at the UN HRC which is obsessed obsessed with Israel and has more resolutions condemning Israel than all the other countries combined as I mentioned according to the Jay post the report did not ask Hamas to stop sending militants to the border disguised as civilians or to stop the explosive balloons or explosive devices or or any of that other stuff that Hamas does here also you have the at UNH RC voting 26 to 16 to condemn Israel's what they call occupation of the Golan Heights of course bringing that up in contradiction of president Trump's decision that the Golan is and will always be Israel and there's so many different reasons why they go on Israel which we'll talk with Easter oh my doubt about in just a few minutes just a few other items here before we go to the interview remember the terror attack we spoke about last Sunday two Israelis murdered rabbi Akio deaden gore father of 12 from a Lee and IDF Staff Sergeant and gal Caden from Bear Sheva well the village of Bor keen there in the Sham run decided to name their main street after the terrorists the terrorists who carried out the attack Omar abou Leah Lila the murderer who carried out this atrocious jihadi inspired attack he's got to get a street named after him Israel since we've last spoke in Israel killed the terrorists in a raid which in acts and actuality which resulted in the terrorists exchanging gunfire with our IDF our brave IDF soldiers the terrorist is no longer thank God but there is a street gonna be named after him and this is par for the course this happened happens time and time again throughout areas under the Palestinian Authority our so-called peace partners right naming streets after terrorists people asked me time and time again whether ever would be peace here as long as that's the case as long as the next generation of Arab children growing up hating Jews they'll never be peace here that's just that's just the way it is one last news item here which some are saying perhaps is there's a correlation between what this news item and the rocket fire into the central part of Israel this morning Hamas security prisoners stabbed guards at the see see out to prison in southern Israel last night two prison guards have been taking to Soroka Medical Center reported here by the Jewish press in bear Sheva after two Hamas terrorists this is a prisoner of terrorists a prison rather of terrorists after two Hamas terrorists launched an attack on Sunday night one of the guards the prison was seriously wounded and he was stabbed in the neck transported to the hospital second guard has sustained sustained a less serious wound to the shoulder so perhaps there's some correlation there between the Hamas not that they you know they'll find any excuse in the world it's it's unbelievable when you have stories like this when Hamas carries out attacks and in many cases Israel will respond and then because Israel responds then Hamas threatens you know as if Israel was the aggressor and this happens time time and time again and we'll see if there's any correlation but it really is there's no difference they'll use any excuse whether it's Hamas or Islamic Jihad any excuse to try to attack Israel try to murder Jews it doesn't matter really what's going on they will they will claim it's something something's bothering them that they have a reason behind it they don't have a reason they have excuses and they use them time and time again to attack Israel we're gonna take a break now and when we come back he's throughout my dad to talk about the impact of the announcement that the u.s. is recognizing full Israeli sovereignty sovereignty over the Golan Heights my name is Josh hastin this is Israel uncensored on the Land of Israel network at the Land of Israel calm thanks much for joining us here on a cloudy and rainy but it's still beautiful Monday March 25th 2019 here in Jerusalem 18th of Aadhaar that five seven seven nine take a short break and we'll be right back [Music] tune in for an exclusive interview with Mayor of Efrat Oded Revathy the first official representative from Judea and Samaria to speak at the AIPAC conference he said I don't agree with all that I don't come from the same political background but the way he presented the information the way he showed us reality is an important thing that should be on the stage in the main conference for the full interview check out rejuvenation with Yves Harrow on the Land of Israel network at the Land of Israel dot-com and we are back Josh hasted here Israel uncensored on the Land of Israel network on the land others about table it is Monday the 25th of March 2019 the 18th of Aadhaar bed five seven seven nine we're gonna go to the phone right now speaking to a good friend Easter L Winky may Dodd research fellow at the Menachem Begin Heritage Center in Jerusalem he's also a renowned writer and columnist for The Jerusalem Post and he writes in in many other places and blogs always keeping track of breaking events current events and his pulse on everything related to Israel and the Jewish people Winky welcome to the program thank you very much just and thank you for that introduction well I want to talk about the Golan Heights but before we get to that of course just your Quick Reaction a missile fired from Gaza into the Sharon region in Israel this morning seven people wounded one moderately your reaction to this morning's attack well this is the second era that Hamas is made in as many weeks yeah right an error okay and as we say in Hebrew a mistake always comes back so either Israel has to make from us a mistake or Israel be making a mistake I am NOT saying a war I am NOT saying a major conflagration here I'm talking about a very firm response obviously we could use the Egyptians on this because I read a report you probably did about a week ago that the Egyptians are very angry at Hamas they have to realize that there's a lot they can lose their population by the way Josh one of the things that we've been actually pushing for for years they should make a revolt against their own regime we saw some of that over the weekend maybe we can do more in that direction of subverting Hamas from within but obviously mr. Netanyahu faced with pressure both from an anxious public and the elections coming up needs to do something much more and we expected of them I agree with you completely I hope the revolt comes from within I don't personally don't want to see any idea of troops in Gaza I would rather see their own people take over to overthrow Hamas down there now going turning our attention to the Golan President Donald Trump his tweet reads as following from March the 21st after 52 years it is time for the United States to fully recognize Israel's sovereignty over the Golan Heights which is of critical strategic and security importance to the State of Israel and regional stability exclamation point now by the time people hear this show that might actually be in writing I heard Ron Dermer in value the Ambassador Israel's ambassador to the u.s. last night at AIPAC state that he expects the president actually signed a document recognizing Israeli sovereignty over the Golan in his meeting with Netanyahu today on Monday what is the impact of this latest development about the Golan well first of all I think it assures is a security in the long term anybody who's been to Israel and has seen from close up Golan Heights either looking at it from the cannot see the Sea of Galilee or being on top and looking around and looking down at the Mascis knows that it is a the best security advantage we have especially since Syria is becoming more and more under Iranian control the situation in Middle East is still not stable the second thing is it again confirms that the 67 war was a war defense and legally Israel taking territory after being attacked could keep that territory and third which is also relevant to the situation in Judea Samaria there is a long historical link between the Golan Heights and the Jewish people's history the only reason we do not we did not have it in 1948 was because the British wanted Mosul oil in Iraq and they exchanged the territory that they had promised Israel to France and it was incorporated in Syria so that was you know a hundred years ago colonial master nations between two imperial powers leaving us out and I think all these three things now come together so just to give people some background here you had you know the San Remo conference back in what was in 1920 1920 and the Middle East this region was divided up and some areas went under the British Mandate others were controlled by France this area here under the League of Nate was supposed to be under the League of Nations under under British control including the Golan and then the UK then I would say would you call it illegally turned over the Golan to France back in was in 1923 or so yeah they did a switch on us as they say already in the 1880s land purchases had been made by Jews Jews were living there in about I think half a dozen small communities so it wasn't as if this was foreign territory anybody who has been up there and done archaeology research and stuff like that knows we have about 25 synagogues that had been discovered there this is not foreign territory like Algeria is to France okay Marie Mia is to Russia and and therefore all these things come together and at that time literally it was stolen from us because the British wanted Iraqi oil so just to clarify for listeners if you are if we're talking about the Golan here in Israel as number one a historical connection number two we have a security need to be up there and number three from a legal perspective this was slated to be part the galambos slated to be part of the Jewish state of Israel and and the United Kingdom the Brits illegally turned that area over to France and then many many years later the establishment of the State of Israel Israel reclaims the Golan in the 1967 defensive war survival which is very important and then in 1981 Israel of Finnish officially annex annexes the Golan yet the Reagan administration which many consider to be a friendly administration towards Israel in 1981 they did not even recognize Israel sovereignty over the Gilad isn't that correct that's correct the situation is of course that many too many diplomats want a final peace treaty as the only way to adjudicate exactly which territory should belong to one country but given as you adequately said the three points of history security and legal aspects in the original mandate situation Israel has full claim and we don't need to have a signed treaty especially as we know Syria is not going to sign a treaty with us it's backed by Iran it's backed by an irrational family that is dedicated to eliminating Israel we don't have to wait for peace treaties in order to establish our right to be on the map in the Middle East how do you explain this may be a complicated question I mean I don't have an explanation you know certainly not when it comes to Judea and Samaria and the importance of it from all the same route for the same reasons as the galán for security legality his history history historical perspective I you know on social media you have diplomats or former diplomats and then you have I don't even want to call them Jewish maybe it will call them so-called Jewish organizations who went crazy over the Trump declaration saying exactly the opposite saying Israel has no legal right Israel has they didn't mention the history because then they would get into trouble then Israel has no legal right and it does not enhance I saw a group what say Israel has this will not enhance Israel's security I think was the Jewish Democrats or something like that I don't even know who they are well just you have to realize our opponents shall I called it will use any argument to move their agenda for would many are here in Israel that we have to deal with an American administration we can't repeal we can't get them and make them angry or upset then it came of course to a crisis both at the bush senior and then Obama and now that we have an American president there's basically walking in line with Israel not only Israel what witnessed it then you know they still have trouble accepting the fact that Israel after so many years has finally made its case to many politicians and diplomats including now as we see our countries coming to set up diplomatic relations in in Jerusalem whether its embassies whether it's diplomatic offices or onwe interim situation everything is coming our way they're still upset and angry Israel is a success story Zionism has won the battle for the Jewish mind and for the relationship in many cases of non-jews toward us as compassionate evangelicals and instead of pushing and pulling along with us in this direction they tend to tear things down it's unfortunate I might even have to say this is a Jewish characterization unfortunately that no one won't once agree with anybody else but we're moving forward Josh and I think that eventually more people will come to terms with the reality that we are establishing here in the State of Israel so last question before we let you go just in general the upcoming perhaps upcoming revelation of what the Trump deal of the century is it's called perhaps will be presented after the Israeli election there are people who are optimistic there are people who are pessimistic in between nervous anxious excited happy what what just based again not and nobody really knows what's in the plan what is your gut tell you in terms of what the plan will what the plan will be and in terms of whether or not you are optimistic pessimistic worried concerned or do you think that since Trump basically has done everything right until now when it comes to Israel that we have nothing to worry about what is it to you well Josh let's look at is we have Trump Bolton and Pompeyo and I think that that weighs heavily in our favor or according to their past record on the other hand I still think that the State Department has an amazing amount of power and therefore they're trying to make a situation in which we still go along with perhaps two-state solution or this or that I have the feelings though that both Jason Greenblatt and Jared Kushner have put into the plan enough tripwires for the Palestinian Arab National Authority just say no if Jerusalem refugees and a few other things like that and I think that's going to be a very delicate tight tight rope walk both to Netanyahu and Trump by putting out a little bit for the Palestinian Authority to say enough to so that we can move on forward so I'm anxious I've never been sitting on laurels but I think that we have a more positive future for us rather than a negative one we are out of time but we could definitely speak all day about these issues and many more with a true true jewel of the Jewish people and you could see from his knowledge base that he's the true resource and should be utilized so get in touch with you sir L made odd winkie what is the best way for people to reach you if they want to learn more about your work your analysis or your work for the Bagan Center I am on Facebook you sir l made that on Twitter and my main blog is my right word righ T and I welcome everybody to come along and engage in dialogue thank you so much for your time Easter L Winky made odd maybe another day we'll talk about how you got that nickname but we are at who are out of time for today on the show I appreciate it thanks so much let's be safe let's hear good good news no more rockets on Israel whether it's in the middle of the country or down in the south it doesn't matter to me no rockets and we'll have to wait for the prime minister to come back by tomorrow and see what type of response Israel will deliver to Kumasi so thanks very much have a great day let's all be safe Josh thank you very much and no balloons either yeah that's right no balloons no terror kites no explosives no border breaches none of that stuff down from our our neighbors they're in our unfriendly neighbors down in Gaza that's gonna do it for today if you missed any part of 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