Israel Uncensored: How Soon Till 'Shirley Temper' Goes Back to Jail?

[Music] Israel uncensored on the Land of Israel network at the Land of Israel calm it is Monday July the 30th 2018 the 18th of of five seven seven eight I'm here in beautiful Jerusalem I would say this is between the baka neighborhood and the German colony here wonderful wonderful morning here in Jerusalem so glad you could join us here in the Land of Israel Network don't forget you can always get in touch with me during the week Josh at the Land of Israel calm on facebook joshua hastin and on twitter at josh hastin a lot going on as usual in the world of news nothing ever changes here there's never a dull moment if you're bored anywhere out there in the world and you're Jew and you're sitting and you're looking around finding trying to find things to do and you want some action Israel is the place for better or for worse now usually for better unfortunately there's some sad news we'll cover here in just a few minutes but thank God we are alive we have a state we have a country and we're proud to say so here in Jerusalem our capital city I am here with a good friend here on the show today Danny seaman he is the editor of the English edition of meda the online magazine also former director of the Israel government press office also a good friend of mine and a former colleague at the old station as we call it voice of Israel he was a chief I think a chief producer at the station and one of the top guys there at voi voice of Israel Danny welcome back to Israel uncensored here on the land of Israel network at the Land of Israel calm always a pleasure thank you so we're here at in this beautiful park hopefully it won't be too much background noise here but I want to talk about everything going on in the news this week let's start with surely temper as she is known I had to me me the 18 year old terrorist who was imprisoned in an Israeli Jail for striking a an IDF soldier she was released to a hero's welcome yesterday she held a press conference of course also welcomed as a hero in the mikata with PA Head Mahmoud Abbas so I want to know Danny what's the over-under what are they saying in Las Vegas in terms of how many days will she remain outside of outside of prison before she does something and has to go back obviously coming from a long line of terrorists and her family how long until she's back in jail Danny I personally would say not soon enough but the and it doesn't matter when the issue is she's not a terrorist she's an agent provocateur she is one of these people who deliberately seek out confrontations with the Israelis because it's it's good it's good footage here she looks like she looks younger than she actually is she looks western she's not like these Arab achieves blonde blondish and she's learned that it's beneficial and it's financially beneficial for her and her family to engage in this kind of provocations against the Israeli forces there the debate in Israel whether or not the last time when she struck the soldier should the officer responded or not I think he considering that it was a trap being set up for him and there was no way he could win and he but he did the right thing they're not being drawn into the provocation and responding because at that point nobody would been talking about her they would have been talking about him and the abuse of Israeli soldiers blah blah blah so it's very smart not to fall into that trap right there but this is obviously this this is not going to end and I think we have to my problem with with the government officials are that they don't understand this is a family of public provocateurs and it should be treated as such meaning you don't have to do everything in front of the camera there are things that can be done behind the scenes and that means that they have to this family has to be addressed as not an enemy in that sense except for those elements in the family who were suicide bombers and and terrorists but the family itself should be seen as hostile and immediately at any point they try to do anything they come near our forces should be immediately apprehended and arrested no two ways about it they have a history of that it should be known that they're doing it and always take into account that they're being escorted by hundreds of dozens at least of foreign agents who are here in Israel and abusing the democracy we have here and allowing them to come and they're waiting with their cameras just to catch the Jews doing something bad so don't give it to them but this girl let me ask you you mentioned a you know a potential future confrontation and I think it's inevitable but she came out of prison right away and already praised the so-called resistance I mean essentially called for more attacks on Israelis she actually said it you know in the press conference and said we have to keep fighting and they continue the resistance against Israel or what I mean that already could be I guess a few that was analyzed her her speech in the context I could already be analyzed I believe as incitement to violence I mean shouldn't the authorities have been right there and arrested her on the spot put her right back in jail because obviously she hasn't changed any months she's not gonna change she's only gonna be continuing with this but the problem with first of all we couldn't arrest her she's in the area of the Palestinian Authority of the PA the problem is not her she's a symptom of the problem the problem is the PA is the fact that she was surrounded by members of the Palestinian Authority the leadership a bus was there and they all encourage this and support this so they're the problem and the problem is even greater than that the problem is not them the problem is the government of Israel which tolerates this and continues to tolerate it and turn a blind eye to it instead of putting their foot down and saying enough because this is costing the lives of Israelis this is not just hate speech this is incitement which creates and people like this kid and others I think we'll talk about this later on this other seventeen-year-old who murdered an Israeli this week so these these this talk has consequences and the consequences usually is in Jewish life yeah when you incite to violence to terror against Israel and that goes unpunished and that is you know the world organizations I don't even care about anymore by the way and we could talk about that I'm done with caring about what the world thinks or the UN things to do you think's and we really got to do what we need to do in terms of combating terror and we'll talk about that now I'm done waiting for condemnation especially not from the Palestinian Authority and not world leaders we'll see where that goes so let's get right to this and the very tragic sad story out of the community of Adam which is just five ten minutes outside of Jerusalem to the north thirty one-year-old Yotam Ovadia may God avenge his blood was murdered in a terror attack on Thursday night which is the Jewish I don't want to say Valentine's Day but it's the Jewish day of love I mean supposed to be that on Yom Kippur actually are the happiest days on the Jewish calendar he was on his way to prepare some sort of I think meal for his wife in honor of the holiday a 17 year old jihadist from a nearby village is just north of Ramallah enters the community jumps over the security barrier and starts slashing Israelis whomever he could find unfortunately Yotam Avadi ma rest in peace was murdered my question to you is this I mean we've seen this thousands of times really hundreds thousands of times so many people murdered over the last you know 15 20 years and we can go back actually today's actually the anniversary of the massacre in Hebron back in 1929 today's the York side of all those the 60 plus Jews massacred so it's not a new phenomenon but what do you think I saw images of the Israeli IDF closing off the village for the time being getting prepared to perhaps destroy the terrorists house I doubt that will ever happen they'll probably end up destroying his room because the Supreme Court will get involved is this any different how can we expect Israel to respond Danny you know and what does this mean for our safety and security here in Israel as we go forward it's another symptom we it's interesting all in all life here is perhaps the best it's ever been for Jews in our entire history we are at the strongest we've ever been we're at the most prosperous that we've ever been I'm talking going back to biblical times we took about 3,000 years this is the best situation we've ever been in the entire history of the State of Israel look we're not we're arguing here amongst ourselves on a law and the a basic law that was passed in the Knesset that's the big debate here which we'll talk about in a minute so that it may those be art from our problems against gun considering other circumstances we've been in we can all be very happy but the fact is this country should be safe for all Jews and for all Israelis and for all the state people in the state of israel and they'll always be those seeking on and it's always been that way the state of israel we do our best but i think many of us are not pleased so they don't believe the government is doing enough we're in we're in an area that actions speak louder than words and we're not doing the proper actions we're talking about unfortunately a lot of our leaders are engaged in in tweeting and putting posts on facebook which is good for bloggers and and for the individuals but for government i think it's an embarrassment they should talk less and do more and not make statements towards the enemy but to do and we have the ability to take action i'm not going to go into the situation in Gaza for example where there are other things involved in whether or not we take action there it's keeping our site on the ball keeping our site on what's going on with Iran which was the greater threat to Israel but when it comes to the individual terrorism here and such as this boy who announced it before he left he put out he put it on Facebook it's amazing if Facebook can block content that they're not pleased about the content calling and he was saying he's going to go out and and murder Jews and he's received and accepted as a hero in his society and part of this is the fact that the international community continues to support the fact that the Palestinian Authority takes money that is given to them as aid for their people and are diverting it to members to terrorists families families of those terrorists who perished and those who are in our prisons and it's since their funding and encouraging that the money they get paid for that is more than any job they have in the Palestinian Authority and that's the absurdity of it to murder Jews is more prosperous for them and they become more heroic and they have streets and schools named after them and the international community is collaborating with this by not putting their foot down and saying enough is enough and the same with the government of Israel we should also be making it very clear to them their steps that we can take we take away the privileges of the the leadership of the Palestinian Authority around allowing them to prance around the world to travel in and out and through Gaza there are things that we can do that we're not why it's hard for me to say this is it laziness it's as afraid to state change the status quo ante Zhu murdered is a change of the status quo and until the government starts treating it in that way and viewing it that way that we have a zero tolerance that means not a single Jew should be murdered here no it's good now the only one was killed no that one is we say in Hebrew is Allah Muhammad law it's a world abound his family his children everybody is affected by that and not to mention the lost of that individuals life and by the way in his and his death he made he prevented the death of others because he was a former border policeman and he fought him off after being stabbed after having his throat slit he fought off the terrorists and held him until other people came by and prevented him continuing his rampage yeah he is a hero I saw new video evidence of that just the other day and I agree with you and not only in terms of the international community but in terms of our own government I mean we approved the Knesset approve this anti pay to slay law which is supposed to withhold PA funding in the same amount that goes that the PA pays to the ter tax I don't know if that's been implemented yet I know it's been passed but I doubt you know Israel things take time I doubt that's been passed number one and secondly I agree that we should not tolerate even one attack whether it's a fire kite or balloon from Gaza or it is an infiltration that results in the loss of Israeli lives here there are many other things we can do I don't know why the PA is entitled to internet for example I don't know why this is where the incitement comes from on a daily basis so why are we turning the other cheek so to speak and allowing them to have internet so I definitely agree with you more can be done and I want to speak on one other topic today and that is and I saw your performance on HIGH 24 News discussing this as well just several days ago this morning's headline is that Prime Minister Netanyahu he adamantly yesterday in the cabinet meeting his weekly cabin I mean he defended the nation state law he attacked the what he called the left's criticism of it and here we are now I think week or two after the nation state law has been passed just to give you an example I interviewed MK Ohana of the Likud Party just the several weeks ago for actually right after this was passed for an article I was working on and he said I understand of the Arabs bring this to the forefront and have an issue with it and make us think about it even though it does nothing to discriminate them if you actually read the text against Arabs or Jews or anybody else he says I don't understand how the so-called design is parties even if they are in the opposition how could they could be opposed to such a basic principle that Israel is the state of the Jewish people so what is your take on the nation-state law and the fact now the Prime Minister is going on the offense is offensive against those so-called Zionist parties are now attacking him and the policy well it's what's unfortunate is that they are so involved in their own politics and then we see this throughout the world where the left has really gone off the deep end they forget that there is an accepted attitude within democratic societies that there's issues of fair play yeah we all play according to certain rules you see that happening in the United States it's happened here for years where once they don't get what they want they forget about those rules and this is a clear indication of this so there should be something we all agree upon is the the issue of the Jewish state that's so the whole reson d'etre of our existence here is the fact that we're the Jewish state and it says nothing about rights and by the way the it is part is it's not a law that stands on its own it is part of basic laws of Israel and there are other laws that address the issues and rights of individuals in this country so nobody's harmed by this but they're taking this and turning it into a political issue and not understanding that their criticism is also being used by people around the world to criticize the State of Israel it's not only irresponsible it's their joining hands with the enemies of the State of Israel and not for the first time unfortunately and they don't see it and they don't understand that so they're attacking this which if they were decent about it they would understand that you know they can have their criticisms but to oppose it there's a lot more behind this and what is behind this is that right wing left wing divided or more and more to the point that what they call the civil society that they're trying to impose on the State of Israel they've been in it we've had an imbalance as a result as a consequence of having only partial basic laws which are to be a future Constitution and that imbalance was that up until now civil rights took precedent over the rights of the country to represent what it's supposed to represent the nation of the Jewish people this comes into balance that now the Supreme Court just can't say and rely on things and cancel laws instituted by the government and saying well I'm it's against the basic law and and completely ignore what they claim that all these all the the law exists in the Declaration of Independence but nowhere have the Supreme has the Supreme Court quoted or invoke the code Eckler Asian independence to preserve rights of Jews in this country or the principles of this being a Jewish country so without that for example and there was this movement of people saying well the the tikva can't be the national anthem of the State of Israel cuz it doesn't represent all of its people or the flag of the magenta bead and there were people don't realize that there were this movement right now it's on the extreme fringes but so what other laws and so are other statements about the State of Israel such as for example giving a the advantage to new immigrants of the right of returnable there are people saying that this discriminates against non-jewish Israeli citizens so you know the it it pulls the rug beneath the identity of this country's being the Jewish state and nobody invokes the declaration of independence now they have a basic law that balances it out and that's what they're so unhappy about because they had ulterior motives that were designed to undermine the Jewishness of this state yet they were not now there are some useful idiots who don't understand that and immediately whether it's a right wing left wing thing they jump in and they they demonstrate they have no idea and it's the most ridiculous thing of this whole thing was that Israelis were opposed to were being interviewed on the media and some of these uncial walk all sorts of members cultural uh writers etc and they were mixing up different laws and different things going on it they have no idea they'd even sit and read the thing that's what I was gonna say so many people commented without even reading what it said and it's in it's one page long and it just reiterates everything in the Declaration of Independence but turns it into law and they're the ones who uphold the law and waive the for the issue of law all the time so you have these useful idiots who don't know but it's immediately if there anything that has that smells of right-wing and they're being used by those who have an ulterior motive and a sinister motive and it's good thing that this law was passed and then of course those as you mentioned those on the outside of Israel they used this as more fodder against the Jewish state calling Israel an apartheid state and criticizing Israel when as I read the article in The Wall Street Journal by Eugene Cantor ovitch from the qohelet Policy Forum who explains that many countries have similar not only similar Western nations have not only similar but even stricter laws in their books when it comes to nationality in their individual countries so this is actually a pretty Parv new law which was passed just here in Israel recently but yet again Israel held to a different standard as is the case each and every day because it's Israel you know exactly I've used you you started out by saying making that point exactly and and it doesn't matter what we do there gonna be those who criticize so we shouldn't worry about it we should stop we're not in the ghettos anymore I mean we are in our own nation we're powerful we're strong were prosperous it's a wonderful country safer than anyplace else in the world right now we're going in the right direction we have the I think the greatest indication and we had this here if you heard it in the background babies and children and we have the gray of the bigot we have the largest birth rate among the secular population in the Western world they'll be like like three times more than the rest of the Western world because people here are optimistic and people here are happy and children are the greatest indication of that and this is a country that is very open to children and and and and and embraces children and that we shouldn't worry about the other people and we should do what is in our best interest nobody cared about us so for generations and centuries nobody wanted us to have a state they just felt a little guilty are they they exaggerated during the Holocaust it took things a bit too far and maybe we should give them an what did they offer us by the way going as a total different thing they offered us in 1947 something they expected us to reject because nobody in their right mind would have accepted that suicidal borders that we were offered as a state yet we surprised them we took it and we survived and we can to survive and thrive and we'll continue doing that if we just do what is in our own best interest I mean to that and I hope on one head I hope that these this advanced microphone blocked out the sounds as another electric bike passes me but then again you had a woman who was tending to her crying baby what a bunch of children here enjoying the beautiful summer talking amongst themselves and cars passing by and more bikes and joggers and runners and Jews and Arabs well that's true did you see that yeah I saw I don't know a woman what nationality she was assisting an elderly Arab woman walking down the beautiful path here in the park of vodka that's the real Jerusalem that's people living together here that's true and 99% of the time it's nice and normal unfortunately there are those who don't want to see a beautiful Jerusalem they ruin it for everyone else it's always a pleasure to speak to Danny seaman a an old friend editor of the English edition of media check them out online what is the website Danny it's very easy it's en dot M ID a dot o-r-g il o check check out the important work and the important articles and commentary they're giving you at Meade magazine Danny seen always great to have you on the program my pleasure always great to sit with you and in other news more than 255 killed 14 women kidnapped in Syria this was an Isis attack on a Druze city just the other day reported by our good friend Seth Franz Minh in The Jerusalem Post and the headline actually reads Israeli Druze march in solidarity after Isis Massacre and if you haven't heard about this story perhaps it's because it had nothing to do with Israel Israel did not carry out the massacre Isis did and I was actually looking on Twitter to see the response from the UN and if you look at the official UN page at UN you see that they have a vaguely worded response condemning the massacre not even mentioning that these were Druze who were killed in Syria so just one statement as far as I can see here on Twitter released by the UN and then again as I said before when Israel's not involved it's barely News 255 civilians 255 and the UN continues to worry about Jews building pergolas in Judea also in the news and this this really affects me personally as I grew up in Indianapolis Indiana the JTA reports printed in the jpoa suburban Indianapolis synagogue vandalised I actually saw this from a friend back in Indiana on Facebook showing that a swastika was painted outside the char a its Fela conservative synagogue in Carmel Indiana just north of Indianapolis on Shabbat morning services continued as usual and the Jewish community now taking extra measures for security there in my hometown of Indianapolis yet another example that 70 years Plus after the Holocaust anti-semitism is alive and well whether it's in Indianapolis or here within the Palestinian Authority in Israel anti-semitism alive and well Vice President Mike Pence sending his best wishes to the community there in Indianapolis of course being the former governor of the state of Indiana former congressman posting on Twitter singling out specifically singling out congregation Charlie it's Fela and his friends there and wishes them them the best and talking about how we all have to combat this phenomenon of anti-semitism which by the way didn't just start for those of you who are Trump haters didn't just start under the current administration okay this is the a 3,000 year old issue so people should know that just finishing off with some good news here in the State of Israel the famous band clean bandit performed at the Rishon LeZion park this past Thursday night Amy Spiro and The Jerusalem Post says it was a memorable show with 10,000 people in attendance there to hear the clean bandit just another small victory against the BDS Israel haters thank you clean bandit and thank you to everyone else who comes and shows their support for the State of Israel or just comes to perform here in Israel and by doing so sends a message that the BDS haters out there won't win we're here to stay and I'm very very happy when groups are willing to perform here in the Jewish state of Israel that's it for today's show here on Israel uncensored land of his own network at the land of his robot Tom it is the 30th of July 2018 get in touch with me during the week Josh at the Land of Israel calm on Facebook it's Joshua Houston on Twitter at paestum I am here in beautiful Jerusalem and most importantly because we now and then we speak again next week everybody out there and the wonderful world of ours be safe Shalom Shalom Jerusalem [Music]