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Israel Inspired: Trump, the Saudi’s, and Israel vs. Putin, Iran, and Syria – WWIII?
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Finally reunited, Rabbi’s Ari Abramowitz and Jeremy Gimpel connect the dots between the global inferno unfolding around Syria and the personal tragedies unfolding all around them. With deadly gas being used to kill innocents the week Israel remembers the Holocaust, one can’t help feel that something big is about to happen and that something deep must be learned.
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Donald Trump Saudi Arabia and Israel are
now coordinating a potential attack on
Syria after the Russian backed Assad
regime has once again brutally used
chemical warfare on his own people to
maintain power with deadly gas being
used to kill innocents the week israel
remembers the holocaust you can't help
but feel like something big is about to
happen
and something deep must be learned this
week on Israel inspired and now live
from Jerusalem you're listening to
Israel inspired radio here your hosts
rabbis ari Abramowitz and Jeremy Gimpel
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show them everybody and welcome to
Israel inspired on the Land of Israel
network at the Land of Israel calm this
is Jeremy Gimpel and this week I have a
surprise for you
his name is rabbi Ari Abramowitz Shalom
Jeremy it is a privilege to be back with
you yeah it's been a while it's been a
while and you know I've gotten some
emails some texts and whatsapp's what's
going on
weren't you on the show and the truth is
you know I can give a lot of a witty
platitudes like my favorite which is
consistency is the last refuge of the
unimaginative right like that one that's
a good one but the truth is that this
place and what I'm going through at this
stage in my life the truth is when I
don't have like a loud clear message in
my heart of what I want to say it
doesn't feel authentic to simply do a
program when I'm not fully there on like
a spiritual I feel like this place is
changing me so much out here that
sometimes reflecting on something
unnecessarily or or prematurely
precludes the full experience of it and
so we know when you're on the show you
have something to say yeah I feel like I
have something to say and I feel like to
a certain degree I'm really back with
the message because you know if we're
just like every week we have to have a
show then it's like perfunctory it's
it's not if what are we artists or are
we radio show hosts that's the real
question I don't know how to answer that
you're definitely an artist yes so you
know like when when something it comes
from the heart and I feel like there is
a lot on my heart right now that I want
to share that I'm ready to share and and
you know things are just shifting so
much we're you know the older you get
did you sort of get set in your ways and
I feel like the journey that Hashem has
put us on has not allowed us to forge
too to get too used to anything you know
to concretize we're constantly inflex
and having to see things in a different
way it expands our range and our
respective of understanding what we're
doing and what the really the calling of
the generation is because the men you
get to set in anything that becomes you
to set in any vehicle then the vehicle
becomes becomes an end in and of itself
and I think from our radio show to our
network to this entire place that we are
in on this hilltop in Judea and I call
it a place because it's so dynamic that
sometimes it's a farm sometimes it's a
retreat center sometimes it's a prophecy
school sometimes it's a schooling
achieve it for the nations sometimes
it's a place for Jews around Israel and
around the world to come and experience
Judea a Judean encounter of sorts
there's so many things that it becomes
that it's it's causing us to see things
differently so so I think that's a
little bit what we are here to share
today seeing things a little bit
differently because the world is
changing and it's changing very fast and
we don't have the luxury of sticking our
heads in the sand or of cognitive
dissonance and saying oh we're just
gonna focus on our own little tiny world
we really need to be open to what's
happening well things are happening just
a few hours away from us right now we're
in the mountains of Judea but if we were
to drive three hours north we would
witness horrific scenes of what the
Syrian regime is doing to its own people
I mean I'm just watching some of the
clips on YouTube and I'm reading the
newspapers and it's horrifying it's so
weird because we're just in the wake of
Holocaust Memorial Day in Israel and
this insane dictator is gassing his own
people to maintain his power and now for
the first time because you know this
happened under the Obama administration
and President Obama of the time was like
oh he has crossed a red line and that
line has been crossed and he crossed it
and there was a red line and he was on
one side and now he was on the other
side and the line is crossed and there
was a crossing line that's what he said
and not a line is still red and it's
still bad there and there was just like
nothing happened and now uh President
Donald Trump once again is like showing
leadership he cancelled his trip to
South America into this Trump
too often what listen Mainstreet what
has he done he is scaring the heck out
of Russia and Syria and Iran for the
first time there's actually respect
lying on a couch and give you a call and
tell you how afraid he is we don't know
what's going on he called me the other
day and he was a little bit concerned I
reserve judgment he may show leadership
and step up and he may not we haven't
seen it yet so what does let me just
tell you what I have to compare them to
is the last president of the United
States and let me tell you it's a
thousand times better so far let me tell
you already right now it's yo Donald
Trump Saudi Arabia Britain and France
have all now come together and they are
coordinating in their own ways in a
united front against Iran Russia in
Syria that hasn't happened in decades
he is rallying the troops together in
order to stop evil that's happening you
know I was just talking to him by the
way he is doing that in the wake of a
huge problem this problem that Obama did
caused by causing the withdrawal of
American troops from Iraq leaving a huge
vacuum in large swaths of empty land for
Iran to fill which they have and now
there's an uninterrupted direct proxy
through to Syria and there so the Russia
Syria Iranian alliance is very much a
consequence of the Obama
administration's terrible for it I mean
when you think about all of the enemies
of Israel whether it be the Hezbollah or
whether it be Hamas and the terror
tunnels and all of these demonstrations
that are happening on the border of
Israel right now if you if you kind of
like follow the money it all goes back
to Iran and it all goes back to Russia
and Iran we had a lot of money to play
with from the hundreds of millions a
billion I'm sorry bill dollars that
President Barack Obama gave unfroze
however you want to call it gave to the
Iranian regime and now there is just
chaos
all over the Middle East and Donald
Trump instead of flying to South America
and continuing on his business canceled
his trip and he's now taking it
seriously and the word
taking it seriously and there is a new
sheriff in town and it's just happy to
see it's just funny when I realized you
say the world is taking it seriously
let's take that a step back these United
Nations the United Nations Council for
nuclear for chemical and biological
weapons Syria is on the council the
United Nations is a joke okay the
world's reaction and you can't say the
world is taking it seriously
well listen what happened was the United
States asked to investigate the chemical
realities of Syria and Russia vetoed the
investigation and at the same time out
of nowhere all of a sudden there are
these mass protests in Gaza Maspero we
haven't seen protests like this in I
don't know a decade and it was it's all
being coordinated in order to draw the
world's attention away from Syria and
bring it to Israel because the world
loves focusing on Israel but finally
there's a nikki Haley in the United
Nations that isn't falling for it and
the world is finally shifting that woman
is a warrior poet is a hero she should
be the next president but um you know
here's what what what's going on right
now in my mind you know I I'm looking at
these pictures of these children that
are like you know on the floor gassed by
this insane dictator and you know around
you know my show I can't help myself you
know I start reading about the Holocaust
I start watching videos about the
Holocaust and you know it gets really
dark for me it's hard for me to watch it
but I know that I should watch it and
there's just a lot in the air now you
know so many of the people that I love
and that I know are being infected with
cancer you know and I want to dedicate
this show to you Kyra frying-pan Raquel
Devorah who's a two and a half year old
boy who I've just been praying for he's
now the the screensaver on my phone I
look at my phone I don't know a hundred
times a day and every time it turns on I
see his face and I give a little prayer
too ashamed to heal him but there's just
so much pain in the world right now yeah
I mean could we just use ooh min on that
for one second the yuckier issue sure
okay you
you just finished your thought we'll
talk about that soon go ahead well you
know we both love the family very much
and there's just a lot of pain in the
world that I'm experiencing from the
very up close right now
and I mean it's not just them I mean I
wake up with this I fall asleep with
this it for a long time was actually
crippling me crippling me in darkness
and you are facing that not only on this
front but on other fronts as well yeah
you know my mother-in-law and you know
she was diagnosed with cancer and but
it's so hard when it's a two and a half
year old beautiful baby boy not even
three years old yet it's just so hard to
cope with so much pain of people that
you love so much and you know that's all
for me happening right around the
Holocaust Memorial Day yo my show it's
like a national day in Israel where
everyone stands silently everywhere
every song on the radio every television
show every newspaper every magazine it's
just you know the State of Israel was
created in the wake of the Holocaust
you know Ezekiel had a vision of these
dry bones and ashes and says you know
could these bones possibly live and the
end of says yes I'm gonna breathe life
into these bones and I will restore you
to the Land of Israel and somehow that
was a part of the reality that was
supposed to happen and so it's not that
this pain is new in the world there's
always been pain and I've just been
thinking about this stereotype of Jewish
doctors you know there's so many Jewish
doctors jokes and every mother wants
their son to be a Jewish doctor and
every mother wants their daughter to
marry a Jewish doctor and what is it
about the Jewish obsession with doctors
you know the best doctors in the world
are in Israel that the whole world is
like flying to Israel now because they
want their Jewish doctors I think
there's a lot of answers there's one
answer that my father would always tell
yeah
Jews have had to be a mobile people
because how long are we in any given
country any given nation before they
throw us out before we are expelled
before there's a terrible tragedy that
happens to us we're the wandering Jews
so we've had to learn and embrace
profession
that are mobile and anywhere you go
people are people and they need medical
help and they need medical care so
that's one of the reasons I mean many
other deeper yeah I think that's a real
pragmatic reason I think there's also
some of you know doctors are excellent
they're either educated they're
knowledgeable and I think Jewish mothers
want their children to be excellent and
that's a Jewish quality but I think even
more than that it's about healing
someone who wakes up every morning and
they go to the hospital and they are
spending every hour healing this sick
world intending to the sick people and
bringing healing to them they are tapped
in to the mission of the Jewish people
Lata Ken alumni Malcolm Jedi to fix this
world in the kingdom of God you may not
be a religious man you may not be an
observant man but if you are tending to
the sick and healing this broken world
fixing this broken world I mean our
world is so broken and who broke it you
know God created this world and it was
perfect when you launched National
Geographic and you see how the animal
life in Africa is without man's
intervention it's in perfect harmony
it's beautiful and then all of a sudden
man comes on the scene I know there's
like black polar bears covered in oil
and there's children being gassed in
Syria man has broken this world and yes
God created men and at the same time he
gave us this tricky thing called free
will and once we ate from the tree of
knowledge of good and evil and all that
that means once we became conscious
beings able to choose between right and
wrong when good and evil in our own
minds became intertwined with each other
now what do we do and a doctor that goes
and is constantly healing the sick he's
just plugged into our ultimate mission
and there's so much pain in the world
now and I was talking to my dear friend
simcha and his sons up Sharon they
wanted to cut off his hair before his
third birthday
because he's going through chemotherapy
now at under three years old and soon
his hairs to fall out and there's a
Jewish tradition called an up Sharon and
at that tradition a parent
do not cut their son's hair before the
age of three and then at the age of
three there's a beautiful ceremony where
all the friends come together and
everybody gets a little snip and cuts
the hair and they put some honey on the
Hebrew letters and he learns the letters
and taste the honey so they should be
sweet to him and it's a beautiful
ceremony called the up Sharon and he
wouldn't get to have that up Sharon
because the chemo is starting now would
have caused his hair to fall out so they
wanted to have an up Sharon and dignity
and sin simcha was talking to me he's
saying you know just a couple of days
ago I was I was kind of living in a
place where I yeah I was upset that I
had to take the kids to Ghana I did take
it then pick them up and I'd never
enough time for work and I was so
stressed out and now my life is a
totally different normal my normal now
is in a cancer ward with a bunch of bald
children running around and I'm in the
middle of hell and that's my new normal
but because Hashem created the world in
the middle of Hell there are Jews that
are constantly bringing us food and
Hospital clowns making us happy and in
the middle of hell there's acid there's
kindness and so in a world that is so
broken I guess the question that has to
arise in our hearts as we come so close
to Holocaust Memorial Day is are we on
our mission to fix this world you know
I'm a professional communicator that's
what I do I'm a teacher I have a podcast
a lecture and at this up Sharon and for
the last few weeks I'm just speechless
in this scenario I don't know what to
say I don't know what to do and here
we're celebrating this Jewish custom
overlooking the Temple Mount in
Jerusalem and I don't know what to say
and I don't know what to do and all of a
sudden dr. Fluxx enstein comes around
and dr. Fluxx enstein that's are his
Hospital clown named dr. Schmendrick
floats in steam floods in Hebrew is a
word for passing gas and it's really
funny that that's our thing that makes
children laugh anyhow he has a whoopee
cushion
he's got balloons and let me tell you no
one knows what to say to
here who's such a little boy that
doesn't even understand what
chemotherapy is he doesn't understand
why all of these things are happening to
him and Ari was a hero so I did this
course to be a hospital clown and it was
six hours a week this session of six
hours a week for six months
that's like becoming a doctor only in
Israel
yeah and it was so such an intensive
course like many hours of learning
gibberish that's not a joke and and you
know while I was doing and I was like
you know it I think that this whole
thing with yuck here justified all of it
and and before we went out there I knew
I mean I've been so tormented about this
there were some times I couldn't even
breathe thinking about what's going on
with the ik here I mean I'm best friends
beloved friends with Rachel and szimpla
and and their children I couldn't even
breathe and they're crying and I just
remember dava knee before going to this
up Sharon that everyone realized was
going to be a very powerful experience
and I said please just let me make this
little boy laugh and my prayer was
answered and it was I mean all I had to
do with him was inflate balloons and
then let them deflate and act totally
shocked and that was just cracking him
up and it just brought light to the
entire thing and that it needed to have
laughter they're so I'm so grateful for
that and you know Israel out of all the
countries in the world has the highest
in the most Hospital clowns per capita
you go to any hospital in at any time
there's clowns there and that's not a
shocking truth they go ahead Jeremy yeah
you know so just you know I keep on
thinking about you know all of the
challenges that we face as people all of
the challenges we face as a nation and
you know Holocaust Memorial is right
around the corner and I think about Hell
on Earth and I think that that was the
Holocaust you know call it Jacob's
troubles to call it hell on earth and
you know one of my mother's best friends
if not my mother's best friend I was a
Holocaust survivor named marina Quint we
actually interviewed her a couple of
years ago if you as you look on her
soundcloud you can find just the most
unbelievable Holocaust survival story
ever I just I've never heard a story
like this because she was such a little
girl and her mother was killed
then a random Jewish woman took Rena to
be her mother and then she was killed
and then another random woman risked her
life to take care of this is called a
daughter to many mothers exactly and
it's just such a story to see that in
the pits of Hell of concentration camps
there was so much acid there was so much
love and in these hard times that people
go through it somehow like pulls out
this beauty inside of us that allows us
to be the best people that we can be and
I look at Rachel and simcha and I'm just
really in awe of them I've always loved
them and they've always been best
dearest friends to me but seeing the
strength the fortitude that they're made
of it's just a whole an entirely
different than when you think about
their story we need to tell the
backstory cuz just hearing this story in
and of itself isolated from the greater
story you don't have the really the
depth to it because I was talking to
Rachel today and she said I've just had
this feeling that my whole life was
leading up to this moment there's
there's a reason this is happening
because you know for 10 years Rachel and
simple are married and we had three
couples when I say we I mean me but me
and you we have three couples that were
friends of ours that were struggling
with fertility and having children and
Rachel and Simcoe were one of them one
couple had that child we were praying
for great another couple had the child
we were praying for Rachel and simple
were like the last ones out of our very
immediate close friends that had not yet
had children and we were praying for
them and they did every everything I've
read possibly everything that they
possibly every blessing from every rabbi
every book that could be they had a main
ceremonies I'm not gonna get into it and
a main ceremony is but it's where women
get together and they make different
blessings and they all say I'm a into
their blessings and it's just gula it's
a it's a sign it brings divine goodness
into the world
anyway decade of the ringing of prayers
of returning and crying and and then
because rachel has like a certain
condition she didn't want to move
forward with the IVF in vitro
fertilization because that would
endanger her so finally after 10 years
she decided we're gonna do it I'm gonna
move forward and she went to the doctor
and the doctor did a blood doesn't he
said to her I'm sorry we can't do IVF
she said why's it because you're
pregnant they're at the that when she
finally went to do this she was pregnant
then and Hashem went ahead and gave them
three beautiful boys and they cherished
every single one of them and raised them
in Torah and raised them in fear of God
and and then this on Passover
the day before Passover is the beginning
simcha saw a protuberance
and yet here's stomach and was skipping
a bunch of steps they discovered what it
was and you know they've requested not
to say the names and and bring power to
it because there is power in words so we
are so I'd rather not say all the names
and get into that but their their
positivity has strengthened me to be
positive myself because there was so
much darkness that overcame me that I
said how can I be crippled and overcome
by this darkness when they are remaining
so strong I'm not saying that they
weren't weeping and crying and
struggling but their fortitude in their
Emunah was was so moving and you know
someone just wrote Rachel something can
I can I read this to you Jeremy
sure it's a letter that someone wrote to
her that she said she's been getting so
many of these from different people
which for me is a confirmation because
this very much reflects the way I've
been feeling about it because the
Holocaust is something to mourn over and
to six million the number is so big it's
unfathomable but the truth is when
Holocaust
Yom Hashoah Holocaust Day comes around
it's almost an abstraction for me in
some ways this is like a little mini
Holocaust for them for their friends for
their friends around them the dire
one-in-a-million conditions that this is
and one of her friend
wrote this to her she said I've been
thinking a lot about this lately as the
akhir situation has opened a lot of
questions in my heart at first great
sadness than anger I really sat with
that and let it consume the admit and
made me bitter but last week I dive into
know show me something different you see
if we look at this thing backwards in
time we have to see we have to believe
that I caught a spark with a Shem
brought us to this moment in time for a
specific reason
yeah cure situation was perfectly
orchestrated towards such a grand and
unseen objective every job you ever had
every project simply ever took every
client you engaged with every house you
sold every phone call made every game
night hosted speaking tour held Facebook
post shared Parque de Chavez meal shows
to everything every interaction you guys
have had resulted in new friends
expanded networks acquaintances and
colleagues gained communities built
families enlarged all of it was
orchestrated so you can call on us to da
vanish M with the widest possible reach
the largest possible scaffolding of Fela
and meets vote being built right now
with the pieces you have been charged
with putting in place for a lifetime
I truly believe every single person
you've engaged with until this point in
your life was for the sole purpose of
having such a huge network of prayer and
meditation and energy and collective
emunah put out there in God's name and
for the sake of Hyuk here there's just
an unbelievably overwhelming number of
hearts and minds turned towards his
recovery recovery and well-being and the
only explanation for this ever-expanding
daily widening of - fela across the
neighborhood country in the world is
because of yuck here every step of the
way has been building towards this
moment so hashem could be known and
called upon and while we can never
understand the means with which hashem
chooses to have this culmination of
holiness brought down into the world
while we can't understand it we must see
we must believe fully that in place of
bricks
your son is inspiring B'nai Israel to
rebuild the temple with Fela with prayer
and ma seem to having good deeds we're
literally rebuilding the temple and yak
here Holyoke here is the epicenter of
that effort and that has brought me
solace and peace and hope that you guys
can
keep this in your hearts during the most
difficult moments and that it really
reflects what because when this happened
to me I I turned to chemin I said okay
you have my attention
you have my attention what do you want
from me because my first thought was
Hashem I would switch places with him if
you let me let me switch places with him
let him not be sick give it to me but I
know that's not the way Hashem works
Hashem doesn't desire death the Torah
says vagabond we're supposed to live by
the Torah the tour isn't AIT's time
he'll amaavas
it's a tree of life we're not like are
our cousins that sometimes value and and
raise up death as an ideal we value life
and so wanting to take his place that
wasn't what it was really about it was
about it's about changing the system
that on some level if I'm willing to die
for him well then I should be willing to
live for him now what are the
impediments I started doing real
internal thought and investigation and
introspection what are the impediments
standing between me and Hashem the what
do I really need to do to before that I
haven't really done true before either
because it's too hard or I say you know
it's just about me I can blow off myself
it's not a big deal
but what are the things that if I change
this in myself it's changing the fabric
and the nature of the world and then the
entire system is different it's like
when God gave the the decree that the
Jewish people would be wiped out and he
said to Moshe Rabbeinu stand up and
leave me and Moshe our banner did the
opposite he said if I stand up and leave
me and they'll be destroyed mushara
Boehner said he prostrated himself and
he stayed so now it's a different set of
circumstances and the circumstances
which I'm laid out with the Jewish
people would be destroyed well it's
different circumstances now so if I
really do chuhwa and change myself for
the Rif ooh-ahh for the healing and the
the betterment of yuckier it's changing
the entire thing and there's so many
people that are doing this introspection
that are really seeking so I realized
you know we've talked about this on the
show before for me one of the main
impediments has been my health I I don't
always eat like I should I eat more than
I should foods that I shouldn't I'm sure
a lot of people out there can identify
with this and and why do I do that
because the impulse and the enjoyment of
the food is clearly more important to me
at that moment than my health and and
preserving and making my body healthy
and a real vessel through which a Shem
comes into the world because rough cook
says that physical health physical
getting in better physical condition is
one of the foundations of chuva of
repentance so I decided just for myself
that to take on a fast indefinite I
don't know how long it's going to be
I've been fasting since Sunday I'm just
drinking green stuff meaning I want to
sustain my body I want it to be strong
and be healthy but not with all of the
sugar and the the Tyva said he say
typhus the us yea the lusts of the food
and the self-destructiveness of it and
and if I do that and that's one of the
main things that I haven't been willing
to do for myself
perhaps that is sitting - I'm okay I'm
listening what do you want me to do I'm
gonna do - I'm gonna do that for him and
you have to see the beauty of this
little boy I mean just such a beautiful
neshama and you know so and it's a
little bit extreme not eating at all I
haven't eaten in four days but extreme
circumstances call for extreme measures
and we're going into the month of ER and
ER serves for a knee Hashem Rafa this is
a month of healing and so one of the
reasons that I'm going so much into this
and I'm sure this is I know this means
so much to mean it's such a part of me
that this is going to be a recurring
theme that I talk about and I share how
all of this is progressing maybe I can
even get Rachael and Simcoe to come and
share a little bit of their journey and
what's happening with them because it's
such a sanctification of God's name that
to bring out the huset and one of the
things that they've really been pushing
that Rachel and Simcoe have been asking
their friends to do is to read the
Psalms and the truth is I sometimes have
negative associations
reading Psalms and times of of dire
circumstance I sort of associated with
abstraction and not really looking at
what needs to be done but Rachel and
simcha that I hold them at such a level
that they said read Psalms then I'm
reading Psalms and there's this app
that's it's like a link to a website
which I'll share below for those Hebrew
leader readers out there that you can
join this and read Psalms for Yaak ears
Rifu offer for his healing but I said
okay I'm gonna read Psalms and I'll tell
you instead of those moments where I
take a break and watch the Houston
Rockets playing the Golden State
Warriors instead of taking that little
break I take a break to read Psalms and
it's having a real effect on me it's
bringing me to a my static my normative
level of being is a higher level as
closer to Shem that I'm saying these
words of King David and and being
inspired by them and pouring my heart
out to Hashem and reading these Psalms
and even just that is changing me and so
there's so many people coming together
and reading Psalms and their their goal
they want to do three books every day of
people reading Psalms for you here
because that's it strengthens them it
strengthens us and I really believe it
strengthens the IKE here this has been a
tremendous growth for me I grow through
pain but but it's been a growth in and
one of the things that I wanted to throw
out there on this show also is that they
Rachel and simple have always been into
healing and into health and they've made
these this bomb the solve of the the
grow the grains and the spices of Israel
you can read more about it
but they're going to have financial
challenges ahead of them and I bought
this this solve it's incredible you
could read about all the uses for it
it's a very healing salves of Jerusalem
calm you could go to their site and buy
that that would help them in what
they're doing and and help finance them
because they both had to stop doing stop
their work stop their lives altogether
and now they're just full-time parents
of this little yuck here who is please
God on his way to a complete recovery so
more about that
we'll get to that soon but you know that
there's a connection to that and what
you were to started the show with Jeremy
about Syria Russia Iran their axis
chemical weapons Israel is now gone in
bombed Syria and there's Britain America
this it looks like the sides for a World
War three are falling into place
and it's like what is good what could we
possibly do to stop any of this it's
what with that what it all has in common
what I see happening all around us on
personal levels on national levels the
theme would be total lack of control we
don't have any control Rachel and
simplist said they've never felt so such
a lack of control of anything so
helpless that they have no choice but to
throw their hands up touch them and just
plead and say this is all in your hands
is that really truly different than any
of us any moment any moment anything
could happen to any of us we could cut
our finger on a on a fence and die of a
staph infection it's the truth for every
moment but now it's so real for not only
for them but for everybody around them
in the whole world and that's why I
think that the calling right now needs
to be a battle for emunah for faith for
actually what rabbi akiva test calls it
faithfulness to a knowledge a deep
internalization of the truth that God is
running the entire world it's out out of
our hands and that everything he does is
for the good whether we like it or not
and that really precludes anxiety and
fear because anxieties people that are
fearful they'll always find something
anxious they'll find something to a fix
that anxiety to then there's always
going to be something in the cards that
you can fix it to and be of worried
about that but what you're doing is
you're suffering the consequences of
what you're afraid of before it even
happens as opposed to just living a life
of gratitude and knowing that if
something happens to you it's a shams
will and he'll give you the knowledge
and the ability and the tools to to pass
the test that he's putting before you
when that time comes
so Emunah Emunah that's you know and
just
it's almost strange to segue but I
realized there's certain subjects that I
think in our show moving forward we
should try to touch upon every time
because these are big chapters in this
book like consistency is the refuge of
the unimaginative at the farm let's talk
for a second about the farm what we'll
call it the farm and what's going on any
notes go ahead were you gonna say well I
wanted to just you know you said so many
beautiful things and so many thoughts
were coming to mind and there's this one
pursue kaneo that I just learned the
other day from my by Mordecai Zeller who
brought it in the name of Hillel silent
and just such a beautiful understanding
and there's a paucity of that says kid
Lonnie calf that I was raised like a
father he says no you're not reading the
the pisaq right it says a kid Lonnie keV
that it was pain that allowed me to grow
I was raised and I was grown and I grew
as a person through the pain and I just
know this as a truth in my own life that
for some reason in the most painful
times that I've been through are the
most transformative are the times that I
grew the most it's like you know the
1980s they no pain no gain
that's just somehow in the
infrastructure of the universe that
somehow through these challenging times
it calls us to pray more it calls us to
believe more calls us to do more you
know what I what I see is this deep deep
desire that we all have to live we want
our children to live because life is a
gift and how to live how to live this
gift how to grow in this gift how to
recognize this grief how to experience
life to the fullest I think that is the
Jewish way that is the Torah way the
whole path of the Torah is to teach us
how to grow through the struggles and
how to really live this life to its
fullest and sometimes like the hard hard
downs that just sideswipe you on a
Monday afternoon that just knocked the
wind out of you and you're just on the
floor in a fetal position
it's those times somehow that we emerge
stronger Yiddish bigger we're grown
through this pain our sages said about
the times of mushiya which you know
leaders of every religion and pretty
much every rabbi that I speak to
everybody looks around and sees all the
signs and says we are on the precipice
of redemption whatever that word means
of Messiah whatever Mushaf even means
it's difficult to even know what these
things mean but the sages of old said
that let me not live to see those times
because they saw they foresaw that those
times would be so terrifying and so
difficult and so painful that they
didn't want to live to have to even
endure that because we know that the
Messiah is going to come as birth pangs
like when a child is born there are
these screams of agony before this child
comes into the world and the I felt when
I heard this news about Kyra frying been
recalled Vora and I say his name because
I heard that when you say that the
child's name Ben the mother the son of
the mother every time you say his name
as this the son of because when we pray
for someone to get healing we always say
their name and the son of their mother
not their father but their mother
because that mother and the it rouses
the attribute of compassion on supernal
levels
whatever that means so the more you say
his name you hear a frying-pan drakul
Devorah it's just another dose of that
compassionate energy to come into the
world and when I heard about that my
initial feeling was that this is
connected in some way to redemption
ticket moola and as strange as that is
because redemption is something we pray
for and this is the most horrific
nightmare ever but I see what it's doing
within me and what do we need to do
before Redemption we need to do chuhwa
to wake up we need to wake up we need to
wake up and this has been a real wake-up
for me a huge wake-up for me and I think
for so many out there and so many around
the world and so that's what I think
we're experiencing these birth pangs and
it doesn't goes from this all the way to
Iran and Syria and Russia and
global conflagration and the wars that
it looks like are to come they will be
terrifying we will have no choice other
than to have faith that this is for the
good and that faith will allow us to
maintain a certain level of composure
that allows us to move forward as a
nation as a people in individuals as we
need so can I tell you the greatest
alarm clock that I've ever encountered
as far as if people are asleep and we
need to wake up the thing that I have
seen that consistently wakes people up
whether they be Jewish whether they be
Christian or their religious their
secular they come out to this farm and
it just wakes them up it's something
happens it happens to me every time I
come here somehow it's like a dose of oh
wait a minute what's going on here and
it's so refreshing because it's not
about us you know with whether we're
there or not coming out to this little
piece of property
this little Garden of Eden oasis in the
Judean Desert I just know that it
throughout history something of
consequence happened here and even more
importantly some of them consequence
will happen here and is happening here
you weren't even here over Pesach all
the time you spent a lot of time with
your family not at the farm you were
here's a few times but just being here
over Passover it was you know dozens of
families just somehow come here they see
the place from a distance they come here
they knock on the door like who are you
what is this place what are you doing
here it's such a prototype it's such
it's something that's so different it's
hard to even put the finger on exactly
why but it's just like it's almost like
a thousand differences but like Camelot
on a hilltop that in the middle of the
very tip of the Judean Desert the
furthest into Judea where the whole
world is trying to throw our caravans
destroy our are in our adult our entire
enterprise of returning to our land and
they're trying to prevent and we're
building like a fortification of beauty
here and so many people come out and
it's just but also for me just on a
personal level the tree every day is a
an exercise of faith and of surrender
and of knowing that I'm not in control
of anything in this place that I love it
so much that I try to control it often I
want to make this this way and make this
that way and it turns out differently
and then I just have to say it's not in
my hands - Emma's having this place turn
out as he wants it to turn out but it's
hard to strike that balance between
really asserting yourself and what you
think is the right thing to do and then
the very moment that it happens
differently than wow you've worked so
hard
immediate surrender and saying okay this
is the way it actually happened and so
this is that's it's been an exercise in
that and an overpass over something
happened I just really want wanted to
share my my brother-in-law and my sister
and my brother-in-law's siblings came
out here with their families and we went
around and it was inspiring and it was
great and then we went into the Sheep
now as you mentioned on a prior program
Jeremy we had 59 sheep we had to barter
50 of them to our contractor to continue
building which is often people are quite
amused that that still happens in in in
our times but so we had nine sheep left
one of those sheep gave birth to three
for babies and one of them passed away
didn't make it but we have three babies
there so that's a real source of
celebration we just went from nine to
twelve that's a real growth of our flock
and so they went in to see then
something happened I don't exactly know
what there's no different different
narratives but the mother of those three
baby sheep somehow jumped the fence and
ran and if she was running towards my
lamb most someone said they started
running towards Toccoa Yossi gets in his
Jeep Michelle gets and his his car
they're driving around looking for this
sheep because it's a critical sheep it's
the mother of the three babies she's
nursing them it's also a significant
amount of our net worth at this point
you know it was just - and we spent
hours looking and we just went to sleep
quite sad picturing the sheep being
roasted over a skewer and Rashidah at
some Bedouin village somewhere and
because sheep don't have that internal
GPS they don't like go back they like
dogs sort of know where they're going
and
able to return to their place sheep
don't have that so we went to sleep and
sort of gave up and then the next
morning I woke up in my bed and I looked
out the window and what do I see right
next to the highest place on the
mountain where we're building our house
of Prayer our baytullah the Sheep was
standing right there standing there just
looking at me first thing in the morning
it was unbelievable and and it to me was
just one of those examples that right
when you just give up hope in you
nothing more you can do then the most
unexpected things happen and we're
seeing that more and more now the sort
of cycle between seeming hopelessness
and then unexpected Redemption and I
feel like this cycle that we're seeing
in our lives is preparing us for that on
a much macro grander level you know I
write around you know this time of year
and with all that's going on you can't
help but really think just about evil in
the world and Tila was telling me that a
few hundred years ago there almost
wasn't a family that didn't have one of
their children that died either in
childbirth infant mortality was just so
high and everyone suffered so much pain
it was just a part of life and since the
State of Israel has been born in the
last seventy years this is the most
peaceful time perhaps in human history
less Wars and yes there's still horrible
things happening in Syria but it's
almost as though evil is slowly
evaporating we're coming to it to that
which still exists is very magnified
everything is very magnified but if you
just take a bird's eye macro yeah you
can see that slowly but surely the world
is becoming more meat to come the world
is slowly but surely becoming fixed the
world is eventually ultimately to be
restored to the Garden of Eden
you know I saw one movie over Passover
with my kids I don't ever go to the
movie theaters and so each movie is such
an experience because the screen is so
big technology that all the graphics are
just unbelievable you know and I went to
see Steven Spielberg's newest movie what
is it called gap player game player one
enter player one
player1 something like that and I mean I
don't encourage anyone to watch any
movies but if you are gonna waste your
time and watch a movie that was an
amazing movie for me and it could be
that I don't have good taste in movies
because I don't see any movies in every
movie is going to be really exciting but
I walked away from that movie thinking
about it for at least two days thinking
about the virtual reality and what that
is because that movie was brought into
this world at this time and read the
Steven Spielberg is a little bit of a
nebat because we are living in our own
oasis we're living in our own virtual
reality here these bodies here they are
just vessels for our souls that are
experiencing this world as we know it
now and you know the lavash already said
gosh of Tovey in tough think good
because it'll be good that's the truth
and that if we just see that slowly but
surely Israel is getting stronger the
Jewish people are returning to our land
evil is slowly evaporating cash on
tickley soon just just gonna go up like
smoke and we see it slowly but surely
happening and we just need to think good
because everything will be good that is
the message of Emunah that is the
ultimate message of the Jewish people
who have been through more trials and
more hardships and more challenges than
any other people on the face of this
planet and our message to the world is
to say I want you to know that a cola
cola cola Tova everything is for the
good and then as we experiencing this
world and we're living kind of through
this fleeting life that we're just in
and out in just a few decades that we
should know that all of this is here to
allow us to experience the range of what
it is to be alive to allow us to grow
into who we're meant to be and that pain
in that sorrow it's just a part of the
experience of being an independent free
being that is the greatest gift that he
gave us is to be alive in this world and
that we just need to think good because
it will be good and on an individual
level that's what you're talking about
him now let's take it to the national
level the national level looking back at
the Shoah right we're we're entering Yom
Hashoah Holocaust Remembrance Day
but to look back at that from where we
are now as a nation in our land an
independent people sitting on a hilltop
in Judea overlooking Jerusalem on the
precipice of redemption living revealing
like already I feel like Diana how could
as a nation how could we have even been
so ambitious to think such a thing could
happen that we're already at now and we
haven't even begun to see the greatness
that is in store for us so looking back
at the Holocaust at the darkest of
places it's it puts all of that into a
perspective and you know when I'm seeing
shana very very seriously now shana
shana is a girl that I'm seeing very
very serious Wow tell us more tell us
more it's been a long journey for me do
you love her long journey for me you
love her do you love her Wow I do yes
think that's very sweet of you to ask me
that
but you know I a big part of my trip to
America the primary reason I decided to
go was to go to her nieces Bat Mitzvah
in New Jersey but really it was to meet
her whole family and particularly her
Bubbe Bubbe zhush that's what they call
her and she is a very extraordinary
spectacular woman a great storyteller
someone that's gone through the depths
of darkness and is constant smiles and
positivity and sweetness and love I was
able to actually sit down with her and
have a great conversation with her and
I'd love to share that conversation with
you with all of you as we enter Yom
Hashoah
us so you can hear just one of the
stories because there's a reason God has
chosen simcha and Rachel to sanctify his
name in the world because he saw the
strength and that they're uniquely
positioned and uniquely built from the
time they were born to serve this great
function of facing into darkness and
bringing from it light and that's what
they've been doing and as a nation
that's what we've been doing
when I meet someone like bubbies I feel
the same sort of awe and reverence and
gratitude that that I can be in someone
like that presence that is able to live
through such darkness and bring such
life so thank you everybody for joining
us it's great to be back with you and
you could reach out to us re at the Land
of Israel comm Jeremy at the Land of
Israel calm we'll be back with you next
weekend now Bobby's Uche Shalom
everybody so it is a tremendous
privilege to be interviewing today a
very special woman who have come to know
over the past two weeks
her name is Sophie ljubka otherwise
known by her grandchildren as bubbies
Uche she is 94 years old and tremendous
strength very sharp mentally sweet and
loving emotionally and physically very
strong and very remarkable human being
and I'm very grateful bubbies hush that
you agreed to sit down and let me
interview you this means really a lot to
me and I think the over time the people
that listen to will be very grateful
that you shared your story so maybe if
we could start with with your story
where would you say your story best
begins I was born in Poland and I lived
with my family in Fabian Itza Poland
which is 15 kilometers from lot and
after having a very nice you upbringing
my parents were loving and very close to
us children and working people and as
kids in those days had to help but it
was like part of nature anyway
everything was nice and good till the
war broke out with in 94
39 when the Germans came we live not far
away from the border so we were the
first to feel their presence in Paden
itza rather way they made us go to a
ghetto we live in the new part of the
city and they built a place for the Jews
in the old part of city and living space
was very limited three families for
families lived in one apartment Bubbe I
want to ask you you said that in 1939
yeah all of this happened did it feel
like it happened very quickly yes
between the Germans coming and you being
in the ghetto how much time was that
maybe maybe they came in September 1st
of September 1939 and indicator maybe
with the beginning of 1940 in the poppy
on each ghetto then in 1942 they made a
beam it's a you denying they send us all
to Lodz ghetto for those of you out
there don't know the word you didn't
Rhine means no Jews Jews and in going to
Lodz ghetto they separated by the way
men from a woman and my father was one
in the two brothers of mine were sent
from lots to hell no and my mother
myself and my two sisters we stayed in
the Lord's ghetto we didn't know
anything about them till we found I
found out after the war what happened
for them in the Lodz ghetto we all had
to work very hard but because we had to
buy food our food was rationed and even
though we needed money to buy to buy the
food airing the coupons and I worked in
a straw resort
one of my sisters Miriam worked in a
place across the street some water
I worked she was she was I forgot the
name can you hold sure of course
can you connected she was braiding the
straw and out of the braiding straw I
used to make shoes big boots for the
German soldiers that when went to Russia
for under Russian front for them not to
be called for them to wear over their
boots and I was the oldest daughter my
two younger sisters I felt obligated
that I have to provide for the house and
I myself and a couple friends of mine
and that group that we were we did
awkward work we made from 10 to 15 boots
a day that was a lot of work and working
wintertime in a cold place no he no
fires around strong anyway thank God at
that point we did not have to sell our
rations to be able to buy relations and
which in a lot of people people that
were not able to work that happened they
were selling their relations in order to
buy relations my mother worked in a
resort and a factory that made slippers
so that my other sister and I remember
actually I think one of your
grandchildren is telling me a story
about you working so hard that you you
had a cut in your hand no this happened
and then when I worked in the kitchen
okay so we're not at that store at that
part yet now
okay so you so we're in the ghetto right
now we're talking you're in the ghetto
and okay in Lodz yes and somehow we made
it the hard way from day to day starving
hungry swollen man effect to the point
that whenever some puppy on its people
friend of mine try to come and visit me
I used to tell my mother to tell him
that I'm not home because in the last
minute our resident of the ghetto from
Bobby on each told us not to take a lot
of clothes the Germans will take it away
anyway so we came almost with no clothes
no shoes to the ghetto and it was
embarrassing for me that I had to wear
wooden shoes that my friends would see
me like that
swallow being small noble it's known I
know I wasn't the same person together
the way I was back in home anyway that
last until 1944 1944 in August 8th they
made you denying they empty to ghetto
they send more every day other every day
more transports to Auschwitz we didn't
know of course that we're going to ours
we were told that we're going to work
that they taking us to work so we all
signed up and in the meantime my sister
after me Luba she was sent out of the
ghetto before us unfortunate so to the
to our streets it was just my mother me
in Isis to Miriam that we went together
to Auschwitz and they where was Luba
sent to we don't know we we had no
contact they sent her out of a ghetto
and that was it and you never saw her
again either till now never heard of her
anyway instils after after the horrible
trip to Auschwitz and at cattle cars
once in the lines for dr. Mengele to
examine to to send us to the right to
right the left my mother was said torn
away from us and unfortunate we could
not help getting her back I lost my
mother in Auschwitz the same day so it
was just me in my sister Miriam that's
try to survive did you even get to say
goodbye to her nothing she saw us being
beaten because we didn't want to let go
of her stones if we were beaten and she
says in either go my children out see
you later never saw again so in
Auschwitz we went through the procedure
of having our head shaved our they've
saved us and they let us go to showers
and took our clothes whatever our
possessions and gave us short people get
were given long dresses tall people were
getting short dresses we looked like
circus people anyway we didn't look like
people at all at that point anyway we
were sent to barracks and life was
terrible
what were the barracks like we slept on
cots and cats and in the middle of the
barrack was like a walk through that we
had Hungarian people watching us they
were they spoke German and they felt a
little more privileged than the Polish
Jews and in the morning they pray to God
but after their prayers they got the
whips and beat-beat else the more to
meet us the more popular Berber getting
and you're saying the Nazis got more
popular the more they beat Hungarian
in Berlin during our own girls oh my
goodness yeah
anyway it was horrible dirt lice
latrines outside I don't have to
describe our streets I'm sure at that
point in that light years of our time
now people I know the background of it
our being the now streets anyway after a
few weeks we were chosen to go to send
they send us to another camp up north
and Paul in three miles from the both in
both ocean both in sea they send us to
straight off which was another outfit
but after a while by sheer luck the SS
woman came to the barracks and chose me
to help to work for her and at the same
time she agreed that my sister should
come with me
so at that point we had enough we ate
her soups in our soaps I was bringing
out with the people in the barracks
behind that I left my friends and I got
a lot of Lessing at that point anyway to
make so you're eating a little bit
better a little bit better yes and then
stop it so happened that there gentlemen
leader of Lodz ghetto Joseph P both kept
a group of Lourdes engineers and he was
building himself a north-south Factory
in Dresden and he kept those engineers
till the factory was ready once it was
ready one of the Labor Department people
came to the SS woman and in our barracks
asking for three woman's name three
woman because three woman died in the
engineer group and he needed substitute
but so my sister says Sophie let's put
our names on the list
but I said Miriam here we have bread
what we know maybe we want that these oh
privilege she says but maybe we found
some news about our family maybe we come
across people that know something about
them so I listened and we went to from
straw talk to Dresden three days later
we heard that the Russians were coming
closer to stood off and the Germans told
the people that they taking them and the
trip to Sweden that they really settled
that they're settling them for Sweden in
the meantime they drowned them in the
Baltic Sea well explained that the
Germans said they were going to take
them to Sweden so they put them onto
ships yes and then they took their ships
out to the middle of the sea down the
people in the Baltic Sea oh my goodness
and we were nothing juniors so we did
not professional work but luckily we
were assigned to work in the kitchen
that's where I got that Tom my tongue
infected and at night one of the launch
doctors in a few people risk their life
to save me because I had already in
green green marks on my arm oh no so
your your thumb was infected yeah and
what would happen if your thumb was
infected I imagine they don't send you
to a doctor doctor they probably would
put me in the oven
anyway they to stay alive I still
haven't marked we can see I see yeah and
they saved my life and eventually when
the Allies came bombed Germany the first
bombing was Dresden
one of the biggest bombing and Germany
was Dresden
our effect that he was burning and they
kept us in the factory to the last
minute in the last minute they decided
to save us and brought us out to a
sports field and then and so they took
you to a sports field and that's how you
survived yes but then they had nothing
to do for me and there in that place
they only kept their professional
engineers and people like me and others
like me
they sent to a camp near their Stern and
from there and after a few days they
send us on a march to the hub and it was
horrible
we slept in their grass and wherever the
Marten emerge from Dresden to tada yes
we slept in the feeds we slept whatever
we were no no no nothing in one morning
where you be were you able to eat and
drink we did we had no food we had
nothing we were starving
we was horrible they didn't give us food
in the March and March in the marching
anyway one morning my sister woke up and
she picked a little grass to wet her
lips with the dew of the grass and she
got beaten by assessment so that she
couldn't get up and I said to see my
picture sister like that
I said we're gonna live together or we
gonna die together and I made that my
mind that we gonna escape from the
marching this was already April 4490 44
and we had in our group and an elderly
girl that was more experienced than us
she was a expert in enmity from Vietnam
and we looked up to her to guide us in
she agreed with us to run so in in the
marching we watched for a place for the
right place and the right time to go but
it was very risky very we risk our life
but it didn't matter to see my sister
like that not be able to get out what's
that made up our minds life was not
worth living so finally my friend said
that it's time that we came we walked by
woods and she said let's run and hide in
the woods how we had strength ran from
the road across to the woods I'll never
know but we ran we ran so deep in the
woods that we saw skeletons of animals
anyway we luckily we didn't have striped
clothes we had regular clothes with
painted concentration camp on it KL and
stripes on the side so we turned it
inside out and we went the opposite way
the group the Martin group went one way
and we went the other way and we finally
came to a village and knocked in their
lady's door and she must have been so
scared of us must we must have looked
like scrape scarecrows swung hungry not
human anyway she said she doesn't have
we said we're looking for work we Polish
girls she said she doesn't have work for
us but in the next village is a Polish
girl maybe she'll help us good enough we
marched and we found this woman did she
give you at least something to drink
think she was afraid to open the door
she talked to us through a closed door
through a window in the door window she
was afraid to even open up doors we
didn't look human if that would be means
if I would see somebody like that I
would be scared too anyway we found the
this girl and she said that her boss
does not need helpers but his brother is
nearby and they took his son for the
army and he has a daughter that is not
the big worker she was a little Noddy
anyway she brought us to that farmer and
he accept the keepers and at that night
there was a big touring of soap at the
table in the home baked bread loaf of
bread and he said said now indeed we
looked at each other not the living that
we lived the day that we can eat bread
it was like the best cake in the world
at that point after we ate he told us to
go through the barn we slept in the barn
and in the morning we rested in we're
not hungry at that point we had to go to
the fields we worked in the fields
that's why he was keeping in there so
you would work do you think that there
was something in his in his heart that
he wanted to save you or protect you I
don't think so it's just the need of
hell hence because he had a big farm
they thought they did not work in the
fields he needed people to work in the
fields and he was desperate it was
springtime so being trying to harvest
know to plan things
it was early spring okay so he okay this
was the planting okay so we did whatever
we cleaned the fields and see that the
fields whatever whatever he asked us to
do but we used to come home early in the
day because we used to go to work for
five o'clock in the morning so by twelve
one we were back in his place and then
our job was to feed the animals so we
shared shared the food with the animals
we had the boiled potatoes we discovered
where he kept the meat
whatever the dry meets and we helped
ourselves we had a ball
anyway as if we worked at the farm for
two weeks the same Polish girl came
running excited she said we don't have
you don't have to work anymore the
American soldiers on the road and we ran
like crazy to see the American soldiers
so this was you had two weeks working
for this farmer you you were working in
the field and in exchange he gave you
some food you also found his secret
stash of drives amazing yeah and things
were good for you and then two weeks
later we looked a little bit more normal
right anyway two weeks later you hear
that the American soldiers are there yes
and I noticed a soldier with Jewish
stars under his epaulets and I waist
waved him down and he came out to say
that he cannot talk to us now that he'll
come back later because he cannot leave
the column so he did come back later it
turned out to be he was American
chaplain and he from that time on he
took care of like a father well um
well he spoke what language did you
speak to him in whatever language we
called German either didn't know the
worth of English at that point but he
understood that he understood leaders
uh-huh okay we were able to communicate
with him so he was like a father to you
absolutely he said he'll come back for
us
and he did the same night the same thing
they he took us to his place into his
hotel found us accommodation so brought
us clothes brought us food he really
extended himself to the outmost for us
wherever he went
we went and it came a time after awhile
that he asked us where we want to go
what
want to do with our selves in the future
and I told him we want to go home maybe
somebody survived from the family but of
course he checked for us wrote letters
to the Polish government to the place
where we lived and unfortunate nobody
survived nobody nobody so the next
question where where should we go
we chose us to go our first place to go
of course was Israel and she said that's
up with the Haganah 3 ha
whatever organizations that took care
survivors providing trips to Israel for
us and from the place from where I was
he sent us to Pilsen because there was a
camp that people from all over that part
of Germany was meeting and from there
and we little by little we made steps to
go south to Italy in from it a little
easier and that there in the meantime
that being that this was the camp that
people came from all over more people
came from crowd from and in the group
people from Prague was a few people from
Lodge and they heard that there's lots
the people some girls from Lodge they
came to talk to us so they found us in
our barrack and the first question was
on everybody's mouth that you've come
across this name that named that person
did I did receive people that were
related to them unfortunately being that
they came from the same place as we did
they were in the same place but Joseph
was this big places house fits and we
did not know them unfortunate
but anyway being that they were from
launched that group they we hooked up
with them they were in between these
people I met my future husband my sister
met her future husband how did that
happen
and that's same guy that came in the
morning to ask me for his family he
asked me to go through it then they had
dancers at night and that first has
named in the sound service to me but his
friend assured me that used to so I
agreed to go to the dance but it was
another guy I waited at the station my
sister was went back to bring some more
of our stuff that their chaplain got for
us and she's supposed to come over on a
train back to Filson and I waited for
her and somebody said and next to me and
the same bench a guy that I met
previously from watch too and he asked
what am I doing here
I said I'm waiting for my sister and he
asked me for a date - I said I already
have a date then he says is is your
sister as pretty as you
I said she's prettier so and he didn't
he waited he went he didn't let me go to
the station pick her up he went and he
said to my sister when she stepped down
from the train I know my new Cheryl says
right she says yeah who you she never
saw him in her life anyway he never let
go and they became a couple and it came
time to go to Israel and I was sitting
in my sister already on the bus and my
future husband came over and he said
that God does not ask people like us to
go to Israel Israel was at war and we
just came out of a war he said
God does not lets people to go from one
more to another and again IIT was
idealist I didn't want to give up my
idea of going to Israel but my sister
said maybe he's right and again I listen
to my sister but and your husband yes
but in order to come to America we had
to move that Germany and live in the
German zone to be able to go through
America wait you could have gone to
Israel or to America but in order to go
to America you needed to go live in
Germany yes back to Germany was that a
scary idea for you no the war was over
but the people are still there yes but
they were already American people they
are told we had protection we were free
we lived in camps but we were free
anyway we wind up in fear involved and
six months later we all four couples of
us got married together and Ralf hurts
our paws visiting the area Munich area
at that time and he heard of the four
couples getting married
four couples of survivors he was excited
and wanted to be a guest and he came
from his whatever meetings whatever he
got everything he came to be with us he
came of course late she just managed to
marry the youngest couple which was my
sister Miriam and my brother-in-law
Morris why bound so Miriam and Morris
were married bhairav Herzog and I have
throw shocking wedding presents supposed
to be the first certificates to Israel
we never got him to give me a table out
whatever you are so he promised to
presents and he wasn't able maybe they
got lost in the mail
maybe anyway in order to get to America
we had to wait for our quotas we waited
for years for years to get to America of
course we had enough camps so after
while we moved to Stuttgart and my
daughter was born in Stuttgart and in
1949 our time came to America and thank
God we came we I had already we had in
Hartford Connecticut
my husband's older brother came before
us we followed them my sister followed
me and we is that how it usually worked
out you ended up moving to wherever you
had me haha yes wherever you had a
family in the States we were like all
other citizens of course we had to face
make our citizenship and in 1954 we all
became citizens but like I say we had to
work hard we American people were not
too helpful helpful not at all even
American Jews American Jews cried to us
that they had it rough too that they had
to eat chicken and they couldn't buy
silk stockings and I told them my heart
cries for you did they do you think they
were really aware do they know what you
had been through I hope so I hope so
because there's a lot of controversy
about whether American Jews knew it was
happening if we're not sympathetic they
were nuts they opened their arms to
Russian Jews Russian Jews came the
apartment were waiting for them places
of where they would be living they had
to furnish them for them for us we we
had no place where to live
when I came I had my sister-in-law was
able to arrange for me a place one room
with kitchen privileges in the elderly
Jewish lady one room for three people
and we I cook too much I clean too much
I wash too much everything was too much
so eventually my husband had a hard time
getting a job no language he signed up
once to go to a factory and the people
in the factory asked him to sign a slip
that he didn't know even what he signing
and it was to join a union in the boss
did not like Union so the following day
it was out of a job again very hard and
he didn't even know that he was signing
a union with the time my husband went to
school at night but I had to stay with
the children
uh-huh I picked up the language from the
children from from papers books whatever
but I never went to school in America I
never had the chance because I always
talk to him and hear him Wow so so he
started a business eventually eventually
with the help of a fellow Gentile helped
him to learn to learn out of dryclean
silk and at that time silk was popular
and he made a go of it he we borrowed
money but shortly the restitution money
came to him and that was a big help
he bought a business and established
himself and thank God I was able to buy
a house because I lived with a lady that
let us have an apartment but under porch
my kids could not play because their boy
daughters
boyfriend's occupied the ports in the
back she had the garden and the kids
couldn't play in the back Eden
so we desperate needed a place where to
live and the restitution that money from
Germany was a big help for us to be able
to give it a down payment on the house
and I raised the family of three
children thank God with education with a
nice background and just unfortunate my
husband died young and I kept going
because I had no choice and Here I am 36
years of Widow but on the other hand you
did get to see your children and your
grandchildren and your great
grandchildren and you have great
grandchildren both well you have
children and grandchildren both in
Israel and in America and and look at
looking back I'm not going to keep you
for too much longer don't worry but
looking back do you feel like there was
any have you held on to anything that's
along your journey that has given you
strength yeah there's been certain
responsibilities once you had the family
it's the responsibility of keeping going
to give them backgrounds to see that
they grow up for decent human beings
with education Jewish education American
education we had a lot of obligations to
that with children well you should know
that you had obligations but you still
do we need you around
thank you still need you around so stay
strong I mean thank you so much for
sharing your journey with us and and
please God we should have many more
years