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Israel Inspired: Trump & Judea - Jacob & Esau
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Back after a hiatus, Ari Abramowitz & Jeremy Gimpel connect the dots between the miraculous events of our times and the biblical roots from which they were birthed. Also on the show, Ari speaks with Rabbi Ari Kahn, a prominent Rabbi and teacher of our times. Photo Credit: Commons Wikimedia / The White House from Washington, DC
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and now live from Jerusalem you're
listening to Israel and spidered radio
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here your hosts rabbis Aria bream woods
and Jeremy Gimpel
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shuttle everybody welcome to Israel
inspired on the Land of Israel network
at the Land of Israel calm this is
Jeremy compel and I'm here with Arya
Bram woods it's been a few weeks because
I've been outside of the country but
we're finally back I'm finally over jet
lag and we have a lot to say
I think it's been we're being generous
for ourselves there's more than a few
weeks I'd call it a good month and a
half at least that's true I think so I
made a commitment when I come back now
every week we're going to be
broadcasting I'm gonna be broadcasting
once a week with tequila you're gonna be
broadcasting one city with you and then
every other week every week I will be
putting out Network content for all of
our list and you are only going to be
vegan only make it you're done with the
whole struggle it's over Oh Lord well
let me tell you it was a world wind trip
around the United State and I try to
correct it every time listen it's oh
it's fine you made aliawan you were 12
well there's another thing it's a
whirlwind but it wasn't no but it wasn't
a whirlwind tour it was it was like oh
there's a world and I'm like what's
being blown around the world in a world
wind that's I say okay so you're coining
in it okay so tell us about your world
away to the tour I've been here since I
was a little boy leave me alone I'm
Israeli I said it's fine you know
there's not greater all right anyway and
you know it was just such a contrast
just I've been living on this mountain
now for 13 months in one week and it's
just been a very simple life I literally
wake up in the morning go out to my
chickens pick up the eggs make omelets
for my children
just simple holy holistic just a really
good simple life good when you say good
it's not simple don't say simple because
that's just misleading sometimes you're
trying to convey a thought and you take
it like one step too far it's not simple
we are dealing with you know peace now
the supreme court groups coming in from
Jewish places non-jewish places all over
the world it's complex it's beautiful
it's profound it's prophetic well just
call it just like simple we're not like
living in Idaho that's you know I really
feel like I meant to say to me me okay I
meant to say to me incertum him and he
is translated as simple pure just Tamim
there's just no other word for it so
that Jakob was an ish Tom your chef Oh
Holly we're talking about Jacob in this
week's Torah portion he was just like a
simple good sweet pure just a pure life
just living without too many
distractions in too much nonsense and in
the last week that we were here we had
German volunteers that came here that
was really a marvelous thing we can talk
about that in just a little bit but just
like a fixing of hatred between peoples
and religions and just living this
amazing life and I haven't left Israel
in more than three years and I get off
the plane and I go to someone's home and
he takes me into his garage and the man
has I don't know eight or nine vehicles
that are the coolest looking cars that
I've ever seen one I think was like a
2019 brand-new Corvette and others were
like a 1960 Chevy you know just like a
collection of cars like you collect the
baseball cards when you're a kid
this guy collects really really nice
cars and I asked you could if you were
if you had a hundred million dollars in
your shekels and your bank account well
let's say 350 million shekels in your
bank account because that would be a
hundred million dollars would could you
imagine yourself ever it's just not my
thing I would just give the equivalent
of it can you picture having that much
of anything extraneous and superfluous
yeah it's just it just the truth is when
I saw it it was a mixture between like
wow I've never seen so you see that in
like Ferris Bueller's Day Off you see
that in like movies but then there was
actually a person that had done that and
I never seen that before so in one and I
was sort of like stunned by it but at
the same time I got nauseous I almost
threw up I was like what that one of
those cars do you know one of those cars
could do in Israel just imagine what one
of those cars could do in the Land of
Israel
one of those cars could transform our
farm here and we would take us to
another level and I just saw like so
much materialism in so much superfluous
system
it's waste I didn't know what to do with
it was such a contrast of these
volunteers that had given of their time
and of their vacation days to come here
and help us build in Judea and living
out this on this mountain and these
these kids from Tekoa I don't say kids
16 17 18 year old boys that come out
here and are working in the fields all
day long working really hard
volunteering because they love the land
so much they have nothing they have like
nothing I've seen the entire wardrobe of
these kids and it's like three pairs of
pants and a t-shirt and that's the total
wardrobe at all yeah you know and just
to compare the two I mean when I was
this guy when when you saw was he was he
proud - oh my gosh he was showing me his
collection like he was show-and-tell so
proud of his collection of cars and
unone and its really impressive I never
saw such a thing in my life but on the
other hand when it like actually like
dontoh me like oh my goodness there is
so much darkness of the Exile it really
reminds me of Hanukkah like we're about
to come and celebrate Hanukkah like that
was the exile of darkness because the
Western Greek gymnasiums and the beauty
of this world in the materialism that
still influences the Western world until
today was so powerful for the Jews that
they were just enveloped in the darkness
of Hellenism
and I was looking at so it's so dark
there because hey it's a great life the
man worked really hard spent his life
making money and listen it's his money
he should be able to do with it whatever
he wants but I feel like because the
drive to make money in America is so
central and so focused upon and it is
the it is the barometer of success there
it's the your family okay it's a but
your real success as a man in in the
United States of America today is how
much money you make okay but Warren
Buffett to drive the same old pickup
truck right he lives in a normal modest
house yeah you're right and look Bill
Gates gave away 90% of his wealth and
Mark Zuckerberg this young Jew he did
the same I think this guy's giving 10%
of his money that's a duckie he may very
well be I am NOT here to judge anyone on
anything I'm just saying it was such a
contrast in such a shock to my system
that I didn't know what to do with
myself I was like is this it to me it
seemed like he had
someone had gone mad and was given a lot
of money and they just lost it and
they're like alright I'll buy some cars
to go look at he didn't drive them he
just looks at them he puts cars in the
garage to look at and I'm like okay well
that was a quite a shocking experience
and then I went to New York and for the
first time in my life I was in Borough
Park have you ever been to Borough Park
years and years and years ago so Borough
Park is a neighborhood maybe it's one
mile on one mile like this Square area
in the middle of New York where everyone
speaks Yiddish there's not a Gentile in
sight there's what we the white socks
tucked their black pants into the white
socks
the furry hats the peyote Yiddish
everywhere everyone is talking yudish
with be Hebrew signs every restaurant is
kosher it's like what it was like a time
warp it's like a Twilight Zone is what
it was it was like a Twilight Zone I'm
like what the hell is going on here who
are all these Jews what are they doing
in the middle of New York how did they
create this independent bubble Society
in the middle of the Exile and I was
like are these people crazy no imagine
two days in a row I'm looking at people
all around me and I'm like is that guy
crazy look what he did with his cars
then I turn to the right of me like are
all these Jews here and bro part crazy
well after I start putting irony is that
when they come here to Israel and they
see us they're like on the mountaintop
they're crazy maybe it's me maybe I'm
the one that's like off maybe I'm the
one that's crazy maybe these people are
the normal ones and I've lost it and was
just such a just a very Mattel tell is
the word in Hebrew just a very
disorienting trip and so thank God that
I am back and I just I didn't even
understand really you had this impulse
to go and I was like okay you gotta
follow your heart we have no idea in
this journey through life the reasons
we're doing different things but but to
me if it was about a fundraiser because
we obviously we're having money things
that we're trying to we're trying to
raise funds and build this place well
that's like Superman going to Krypton
and doing a ballet
Crypton on kryptonite it's like without
having this place to actually show
people and have them experience it I
mean to leave here and to describe it to
people is that what you were doing it's
hard to explain what I was doing it was
just an inner intuition that I had
months ago that I just had to go out
with a message that was inside me and
I'm like all right well I'm gonna go out
there and if I'm already going out there
then I'm gonna try to meet with the
people and try to build this farm and
the problem with this farm is this farm
is like an escalator if we're not
constantly pushing it forward it will
pull us down just to maintain this place
is a huge financial responsibility so I
said all right alone to build it to
complete the retreat center to complete
the promenade to finish the gardens and
the Bates Fila it's it's a deal it's a
deal and I said all right so maybe this
is what I'm being called to do now go to
the United States go teach go inspire go
and connect people to the Land of Israel
into the destiny of the Jewish people
that's literally unfolding before our
eyes not that it can really be sensed
over there that's the whole thing
Borough Park and someone that's lost in
their material mansions whether it be in
Florida or in New York it's hard to
actually open your eyes to the reality
of what's happening in our lives
that Jewish destiny Israel's destiny
ultimately world destiny is literally
unfolding before our eyes history is
being made as we speak and if you're
just sort of in your own world and you
don't have the eyes to see it it
literally can just brush you by and
you'll just live your life you know to
kind of doing your own thing and miss
the greatest opportunity that there is
to be had in this world and to take part
in this amazing story and participate
literally with the God of Israel and the
redemption of this whole world in assure
the world in to like a new era I mean
the world is so broken and I'm like
going from place to place and the trees
I don't see much happiness there I don't
see much happiness in these very
elaborate beautiful lifestyles of the
United States I didn't see a certain
passion and an excitement about life and
a thrill to be alive
and it just it's it just seemed like a
little bit like a golden cage it seemed
it like well they've built a nice house
and they've built a nice thing around
themselves but it didn't really think
seem like they were thriving it didn't
seem like they were really just lit up
about life and excited about their
purpose and then I do see that out here
of course that's because we are
literally on the center stage of what
Hashem is doing in the world I feel like
I don't know it's just about center
stage I also think we're in our
indigenous place we're where we're
supposed to be we are in the best
environment that brings out our ability
to be truly alive and vibrant with
vitality it's just something that
happens just our natural habitus just
fish in water that's it well what kept
on coming back to me over and over and
over again in this in this trip was
Psalm 128 I know that that sounds very
biblical and a little bit like out of
the left field like what does that have
to do with anything but Psalm 128 is a
really short just a few verses that King
David wrote and he really is kind of
giving us I think the blueprint to what
everyone really wants in life people you
know it's we're motivated when I analyze
everything down to its core
everyone is motivated inside because
they want a certain feeling they're
acting in the world because they want a
feeling meaning they think that maybe
money is going to bring them that
feeling the security will bring them
that feeling the honor the prestige the
fame the whatever it is that's
motivating those people and then it's
like a feeling that they want to have
inside and they want that feeling so
much that they'll dedicate their lives
towards achieving that feeling and well
America and Hollywood has really
persuaded people that this is the
direction towards that moment in the
movie where this is how it is and if you
just follow the American Dream you're
going to get that feeling because that
is the dream and King David really
offers us an alternative an alternate
reality a different dream but really the
way to achieve what everyone really
wants inside and someone 28 is just
saying listen happy is the man who fears
the Lord that if you live just a humble
a good life with the Racha mind then you
know what's gonna happen your wife is
going to be a fruit
vine in the heart of your home your
children will be around your Shabbos
table like olive trees you'll work and
you'll enjoy the fruits of your labor
it's not saying that if you just follow
the tour you're gonna be a millionaire
and if you bless me then you'll be
blessed beyond measure says no you're
gonna work for your for your living but
you're really going to enjoy the work
that you work towards and it's just like
oh it's it's the simple life
it's just back to fundamentals and
vegetation I mean it doesn't mean a lot
of times in English they translate it as
fear of God but you're awesome I'm
denotative li means your uh ro ed to see
Hashem to see how Shimon everything and
when you see how Shimon everything then
you interact to situations radically on
a radically different level you don't
it's like a man beating a dog with a
stick and the dog bites at the stick so
a lot of times I feel like I'm going
through we're going through this world
and we're biting at this stick but when
you see Hashem in everything you can
really address Hashem directly talk to
Shem and not get lost in the middle man
illusions of this world and throw
yourself at the mercy of whoever you
feel like you are at they're at their
whim right now it's really you're in
Hashem sense so that's I think what your
arch of my means and that's why it would
bring all that joy yeah and so you know
I went from this kind of like detached
Jewish life whenever I'm in America and
I'm just I'm surrounded by so many of
the nations and in New York it's like
such a it's almost like a Messianic
inverse of like Chinese people and
Korean people and black people and white
people and purple people and just like
everyone is all together and like the
Jews are just sort of like disconnected
sort of being blown through the universe
and they were like starting to prepare I
use I started first seeing the first
trees of the Christmas being put in
target and I was like wow it's just like
it's it's just not our home here we're
just so removed from like we can sort of
try to create our own bubbles whether it
be in Borough Park or whether it be in
Bal Harbour Miami but ultimately like
that's just not our home and I come home
to Israel and the head Habad Shelia
rabbi Donna Cohen who's just like such a
sweet good wholesome like mensch Shiva
mensches invited me as a guest of honor
to
bodenheimer on on the parsha of Kyocera
which was just last week's parsha and i
like come home to that shabbat were
40,000 Jews from all over the world I
mean there were every type of Jewish
demographic was there and they were all
together celebrating the Torah portion
where Avraham purchases the tomb of the
patriarchs almost four thousand years
ago and here on Easter L is now like
returning to that first acquisition in
the Land of Israel
celebrating it all together and it would
like talk about a contrast being alone
in an airport just feeling like this
loans you wandering from city to city to
all of a sudden being rooted 4000 years
in our history towards Avraham Avinu to
the location of the heart of Judea
surrounded by all of the Jewish people
if Guiness would have been at that
Shabbat dinner it broke a world record
for the largest Shabbat dinner in human
history Habad put on the largest Shabbat
dinner ever before that that was it
really
the largest ever oh you didn't bring
Guiness next year Donnie you gotta bring
goodness
are you crazy being the Guinness Book
word and so it oh my goodness it was
like what a spectacle to see and kebab
they know how to party they're making
like hyams and singing and dancing and
all these Jews are together celebrating
Shabbat together and you know I don't
you know about they do know how to party
yeah it's really a thing they understand
that that Judaism needs to be alive that
so many Jews in America they're just
like okay it's ritual mumbling and Hamas
like no no I just I don't know what to
say I just love Habad nickim I love
Chabad everywhere I go I'm in Miami I'm
at the show that Brad buys a Chabad
rabbi I go over here in Toronto oh it's
a like they are holding up really the
Exile on their shoulders and they are in
the far ends of the world and I'm like I
will you send me the picture from their
sleeping they had their emissaries
conference it was like it had to be a
panorama picture it was like an army
yeah it was an army of super juice that
are fully dedicated retired Mad Cow are
the most elite unit in the Israeli army
of Jewish yeah that picture is so
inspiring to me and it's so inspiring
because
I was alive when the LaBarbara Rebbe was
alive I mean we lived in the same
generation as him and like when he died
it was like sad like rava vodka passed
away and many big rabbis passed away and
it was like a terrible day for the
Jewish people and I don't know his work
has just quadrupled more than quadroon
and so there's like these two phrases in
hazael that just hit me so strong when I
was in heaven
the first one is sad Hakeem mulatto is
set B daya Hyrum that righteous people
their work is done by others that
somehow the Rebbe also was in his
lifetime he really barely ever dies
always understand I've always understood
you working so much harder than me and
so but okay so in you know you had all
of these emissaries doing his work going
out to the ends of the world in order to
like spread the light and then it says
said he came to meet at Omni crane claim
and righteous people in their deaths are
considered alive and all of a sudden you
see like these giant posters of the
Rebbe and these Shabbat meals and
bringing all of these Jewish people
together celebrating Shabbat I'm
connecting them to the Land of Israel
I'm like Mike goodness look at how
marvelous that is that that is a really
not just example of Jewish leadership
but it is like a manifestation of what
we should all strive to be like all of
those people that feel connected in some
ways so much that they're on a mission
in Bangkok are there in Hong Kong or
there in the far reaches of Africa I
mean Chabad are literally everywhere
they are on a mission they have a
calling and it like goes back to the
root of the Jewish people
our fundamental claim in the the
fundamental claim of the Torah is that
Avraham had a calling that's not a
modern terminology of I don't know life
coaches or new-age thinking that is the
fundamentals of the Bible
Avraham heard Lachlan he heard it it was
a calling in his life to go on a mission
to build a kingdom to build a country
that will ultimately be a blessing to
all families of the earth
now Avram really had to like not hold
his breath
because it's taken four thousand years
imagine it was one person named Avraham
and the rest of the world around him and
then slowly but surely now look at who
Avraham has actually influenced he's
influenced millions upon millions of
people that are now living by the Judeo
ethic living by the principles of the
Torah and it's like slowly but surely
now once again a third Commonwealth in
the Land of Israel with the same mission
that Avraham had to build a country that
will ultimately fix the entire world and
we're like watching the country come to
realization now and imagine on the
parsha that Avram had his first
acquisition his first purchase are the
first deed in the Land of Israel it's
like recorded on paper that he had this
purchase in Judea the Trump
administration declares that the
settlements in Judea and in Samaria are
legitimate and legal to me that is just
a spice cart beyond Spice carts that a
specific have meant to mention that a
week ago he could imagine that three
months from now he mentioned exactly on
the Torah portion of the Jewish people
acquiring Judea in the parsha of highest
Sarah and then to be there in heaven on
that parsha I just felt like I should
almost kissing me saying like I want you
to know Jeremy whatever you're doing you
may have been in Toronto and in
Cleveland and in New York and in New
Jersey but like you're right on track
you were like sent off to the Exile for
two weeks had your heads spun around but
don't worry you are right where you need
to be and that was just super
encouraging yeah that's true I feel like
we have a calling - I mean my name is
Abramowitz son of Abraham and we are
living in the land of Abraham Isaac and
Jacob we're living in these hills and
I've never felt so with such profound
clarity what our calling is and you know
we're both I just turned 40 I just
turned 40 a few days ago and you're
turning 40 your body is turning 40
actually today at the recording of the
show right now happy birthday Jeremy
thank you very much we are what eleven
days apart same year and and and that's
a big deal and you know I speak to
friends of mine in America about you
know I'm turning 40 and my friends are
turning 42 and there's a bummer I'm
little down about it and trying to deal
with it and for me it's like so foreign
to even think of it like that a bummer
do that I mean these are also people
that are a little bit more where it's
normal to be like I look at you you're
living on this hilltop
you've got six kids like what could you
want different or better like Shane and
I please God we're very excited to be
starting our family please God but you
know we're not exactly in the ignore
normative age range which is finally
there was not room and sorry that's okay
but but at this point I'm just so
grateful to be alive
I was gonna have a midlife crisis and
move to a mountain but I already did
that last year so now I'm really stuck
yes no I'm grateful to be alive I'm
surprised that I'm alive that's
surprising to me and I just feel like
we're surrounded by too much mortality
too many great people falling before
their times re fold I think about it
could go any minute so the older we get
I feel like it's the more reason to
celebrate
we're on stolen time we're on stolen
time yeah I feel like people in Israel
that served in the IDF infantry feel
that a little bit more than other people
because other people around you are
killed and that could have just as
easily been you shot that you know the
three kilometers to the left we could
have been on that mission
it's just stolen time stolen time is so
grateful to be alive and to be living
where we're living right now and it's I
feel like we're clearly guided by a
shaman I actually would have been there
with you at have room for that Shabbat
we were scheduled and slated to go we're
going to be staying in the same house
there but my wife Shana her grandmother
Bubbe Zoosh she was lovingly known she
passed away and that was a very
difficult thing for the family she was
really the matriarch she had children
she had grandchildren
great-grandchildren and I'm really
grateful because Shana and I we've only
been together like over two years but
I've merited to spend a good amount of
time with Bubby's ushe I really had very
deep long conversations with her
interviewed her for this media network
and she was just so interview about a
lot of Holocaust survivors that have
survived Auschwitz and door - what's
sometimes there's sort of angry and
bitter they don't like to talk about
their story she
you would always open up and share her
story and share her struggles and she
has such simcha she had this trademark
it is really a trademark smile and like
let it
you remember my wedding when usually
everybody's lining up to get a bra from
the bride and the groom well that it was
like a triple long line for bubbies hush
to be giving blessings and this is a
woman that like always talked about how
much she struggled with God because of
the Holocaust and struggled with God all
the time yet she's constantly blessing
us and blessing everybody in God's name
Passover was like her holiday the
holiday of like Exodus and shearing the
Exodus and what she went through and she
just you know you can see manifested in
her children and grandchildren who have
just like a living fire within them for
a great grandchildren for Tauron for
Judaism it's just like it's a it's an
enduring legacy because in the end of
the day you're talking about the cars
and the Chevy's and whatnot Chevy's what
were they court ever they were whatever
they were those are it's just stuff
that's gonna be impounded after the
person leaves the world and the bank is
gonna take it and that's it what is our
real legacy that lives on it's our
children it's our grandchildren it's our
great-grandchildren
and those are really a testimony there
so I'm grateful I'm really happy because
you remember the story I shared on the
show about Michelle the you know the
bald four tooth french guy that I'm
paying child support for his kids I
needed to pay twenty thousand shekels in
cash to leave to go visit bubbies Esch
and it was the best twenty thousand
shekels I could have spent because that
time with her can't be taken away from
me and and just she will definitely be
missed so that's why we weren't there
for highest Sarah because she passed
away I think about that generation in
you know tequila's grandfather also just
passed away within this last year now
Shana's grandmother passed away from
this last year and I mean she Anna's
grandmother literally lived through the
horrors of Auschwitz and she saw all of
the curses of the Torah manifest before
her eyes because sometimes you read
there's two chapters of real curses that
will come upon the Jewish people in the
Exile and some of the curses are so
outrageous maybe you just think it's
poetic that Moshe was just kind of like
talking enough in a poetic scary kind of
way and then all of a sudden you see the
end of the eggs
every single curse that was there
manifested to write to the descriptive
reality and then from that dark exile
you know that generation lived to see
the rebirth of the State of Israel the
Independence Day War the Six Day War
children grandchildren and
great-grandchildren living in a
sovereign Jewish country in the
mountains of Judea that's like in one
generation that actually happened and
now that that generation is sort of
slowly going it was like it's like the
blink of an eye but that actually
happened in one lifetime
we actually saw the Exile to redemption
in terrifying
it says the salvation of God is like the
blink of an eye and now we can
understand like well now that they're
gone it was like that actually happened
in one generation it was like the blink
of an eye right and to have been in that
generation like bubbies hush you know
she flew in for Shana and I was wedding
Shana her granddaughter that she's been
praying to get married she said she
wanted to be there so even though she
was 96 she flew in for the wedding and
she was able to come out to the farm and
be on my own armored pet and I remember
her looking out and looking around and
her she was just mind blown that this
was like Judea that this is Israel that
her grand daughter is living the
manifestation of her dreams and then I
told her the story about the Germans the
Germans that have come here some of them
were children and grandchildren of Nazis
and they've come here to help us and to
bless us volunteering their time and
efforts and money in our to help build
this place because they love us so much
her eyes filled up with tears you know
they just like filled up with tears and
she turned to me and she was like you're
either a Navi or you're Meshuga thing to
that note she said to me but but to see
her experience the entire range and to
be here and to be able to have
facilitated that in some way well that
was extraordinarily meaningful I want to
talk just for a moment about those
German volunteers that you just
mentioned now you know it's not the
first time that a group of Germans have
come here and each time some of them are
the same and some of them are new and
every year for the last four years a
group of Germans come here for about
two weeks and volunteer and they've
really made their mark on this farm
they've really helped practically build
things that are to last here this time
they built a two hundred and metre a
square metre pergola gazebo right
outside our UK you know I've had like
builders construction people come and
marvel at it at the expertise the
meticulous exactitude its job the angles
and the wood it was just superb we built
but like by Germans by Joe and they're
working from morning tonight we had
these two guys from from Holland when
Arthur and and Aaron Arthur our own and
they showed up on their bicycles and
flip-flops and they wanted to help and
they were working and they worked super
hard and they said they went up to the
Germans to try to talk to them while
they were working they wouldn't even
talk now they are working now they're
focused and they worked really hard and
they don't even come here expecting
there's not like a program there's not
an itinerary we don't they're not
expecting anything from us the first
time we were here they were here it was
so disorienting from us then I don't
think we even interacted with them all
that much but they came back again
because it wasn't about what they wanted
to get from us it wasn't about an
itinerary it was about their mission and
their takuna and every year they come
back and this year I think we connected
with them well very perfect well it was
just so special it was also like the
last experience that I had right before
leaving the Land of Israel for two weeks
and we I left on Saturday night and they
were here for more than one week so they
had one Shabbat in the middle of their
time here and so I said well of course I
live here now on the farm that purpose
why I moved here was exactly for this
that I would finally be able to like
host people like you at our home for
Shabbat and so they were about twelve
Germans that lived here on the farm for
about two weeks and then on Friday they
brought in another eight Germans that
just came for Friday to finish off the
job before Shabbat and then all of them
asked to have Shabbat dinner by me and
celebrate Shabbat together and I'm like
oh great that's beautiful what an
amazing opportunity and then eight of
the Germans came up to me before Shabbat
and they said that their life's dream
was to spend Shabbat with a Jewish
family and because their children or
ancestors are Nazis they're the children
and grandchildren of Nazis and because
they're Christians no Jews ever wanted
to have these Germans over for Shabbat
one woman told me she once saw a rabbi
in Germany and he seemed to be very
afraid and he was behind security and
she could barely come close to him and
this is her first time coming close and
even exchanging and talking to a rabbi a
rabbi almost even a Jew it was like so
exciting and mind-blowing and so their
life's dream was dispensed Shabab with a
Jewish family and I was like I am
honored to be able to host you for
Shabbat and so we had about I don't know
30 people after we and your family was
invited my kids and all the people that
were there it was the most special
Shabbat meal ever I mean people were
crying it was just so marvelous and I
was just thinking that probably the
greatest hatred to ever exist in the
world was the combination of Christian
replacement theology melded together
with Nazi ideology like the crucifix
turned swastika like this cross that was
crippled into this twisted into a
swastika as Hitler is giving these talks
with the Pope behind him giving his
silent approval of this final solution
to eradicate the Jewish people from the
face of the earth
it was the horrors of Auschwitz like the
worst human atrocities in modern history
and all of a sudden from the greatest
hatred all of a sudden this farm in the
mountains of Judea made this little
bridge of love and brotherhood in
friendship and companionship and light
and Torah Wow what an amazing place this
is I mean just four years ago there was
nothing on this mountain there were just
rocks there was no electrical
infrastructure there was just thorns and
all of a sudden now this like become a
healing between nations a place of
healing between peoples and what a
marvelous opportunity and I felt you
know so filled with so much light and
I'm just I don't want to leave anymore
left to America and was like what I'm
just like holed into the the confusion
of the exile in the the materialistic
magazine land of Hollywood and it was
like just so disorienting let me just
sometimes we need to leave in order to
to appreciate rest let me tell you I'd
literally because for three years I
hadn't left Israel it's like I created
it created such a yearning and a longing
and a love and appreciation for Judea
and for this land and to be around you
know our people in our context and in
our environment it was just marvelous
and so it's just so funny that the
Germans they walk away every year saying
this is the highlight of their year they
are blessed beyond measure that are
filled with light invigorated to go back
to Germany connected to the Land of
Israel effed us with the before they
left they handed me a wad of cash a lot
of the meaning they came here
volunteered their time efforts energy
brought that but their own supplies
everything and then they paid us to do
it and then they're walking away feeling
so blessed so blessed oh it's like
unbelieving they're like the biggest
blessing in the world for us that's I
even shared that with them I told them
that I think the first time they were
there and even now I still have trouble
approaching them because I'm so
overwhelmingly humbled and I don't know
how to deal with the kindness and the
giving and being the receiving end
sometimes the taking is giving and I
feel like this is that situation if we
refused to take their money which of
course is going to the farm it's going
to build what we're doing but if we
refuse to allow them it would be an
active of violence almost did not allow
them to give to us in this way because
they're so they're so thirsty yeah
there's so many funny stories with the
Germans I we can't get into all of them
now but there's one that I just have to
mention now because obviously when they
leave I still know that there's so many
that I have to choose one or two because
when you tell all of them it's like all
right it's too many but I'm just like
but I stay in contact with many of them
you know what's up is so easy you know
you just send out a broadcast list keep
them connected to the podcast and then
they'll send me a message back and then
very often either maybe it's just like
the German culture but there's a little
emoji where there's like a man raising
his hand saying hi and it's like hello
how are you and for whatever reason one
of my
German friends everytime she ends she
ends it with that emoji with like
someone just like so I'm waving hello
that looks like hailing Hitler
it looks like Heil Hitler every time and
I just like each time it makes me like a
smile laughs just it never the Wonder
and mystery of it all never leaves me
because like at the end of every like
what's that message I get a little hi
Heil Hitler reminder of who I'm actually
talking to and to never forget the the
mystery of it all
it's just so marvelous even even when I
go into the Han right now into the
retreat center that we're building and
they stay they come here and they stay
in these three rooms that it's a
construction site it's the closest that
we actually come to hosting a real
retreat those are pretty beautiful and
there's a beautiful rooms but it's still
the building itself as a construction
site and they make do they make do they
find broken mirror once and they put it
up on the wall and that was their mirror
and they just they're very resourceful
Trias yeah and resourceful and so my one
thing that I had in my head I'll just
say mine is to walk in there and I saw
that they constructed these bunk beds
for themselves in the rooms and I walked
in the rooms and the rooms were just
packed with bunk bed beautiful bunk beds
beautiful bunk beds but I couldn't help
but to think like wow they were putting
us in bunk beds I thought you know and
now look at these bunk beds they're
putting themself in here for this place
it's just there's just too much to do
but this is one thing that I do want to
mention just our listeners as we're on
the context of volunteers however this
has happened it just seemingly people
are calling us and it looks like a small
group of volunteers is going to be
coming here for the first few weeks of
March and now we don't have unlimited
space we're about halfway full to the
bunk beds that we have here now but if
that's something that you're interested
in coming here for two weeks the first
two or three weeks of March it looks
like there's going to be a group
necessarily put out the invitation like
that because I just don't know that
we're really set up for the means
happening it's happening but it doesn't
mean that we need to be packed say we
need to be packed it could be that by
the time people email it's already going
to be full cover iam I'm sorry but for
those that really do have an interest
and there's not any program here we're
not like offer where I
we're just trying to put one foot in
front of the other evidence of insurance
yeah there's if we don't have anything
here he literally coming here to sleep
on bunk beds in the middle of a
construction site and work all day long
and if you want to do that great but
like there's no sale anyway happens
anyways but I just wanted to talk for a
second about these Germans because this
week's Torah portion really illuminated
what what what happened it just it
filled in a lot of blanks because I'll
tell you these Germans they come here
and I'm humbled and if I'm gonna be
honest and true
I wonder they're coming here they want
to drink up our words and our wisdom and
our Torah but I feel like I end up
walking away from my encounters with
them with a renewed sense of chuhwa of
wanting to come back to em to work
harder in my Torah study to learn more
because they're working super hard and
then in their time off they have their
Bibles open and they're talking tore em
there they're not lost on their phones
doing silly things they don't even have
phones or reception here and they're
just in this little bubble of like
working and learning and holiness and it
inspires me and so you know if you ask
any of them who are you descended from
they they said II don't I don't know why
they don't say I said a sub they said a
7th ed Oh ed dome is is a sub right and
that's who they say that they're
descended from that so we believe that
that they're descended from also but
there's a rabbi re Kaun who I was I had
the honor of interviewing before I want
to a fix that interview to the end of
our show today he shared a beautiful
beautiful insights about ASA he's talked
about that there's two different
personality deceptive personality types
right there's the deceptive personality
type of someone that is evil inside but
tries to convince others that they're
holy and people that are evil inside and
convinced themselves that they're holy
and so that's what he says is the inion
with Asaph that ASA actually was
convincing himself that he was holy and
he believed that he was holy too and so
that was a big paradigm shift for me
because I always thought of ASA was just
you know duplicitous and constantly
lying and but know that he was lying to
himself changes things meaning that you
know that you shiz a favor
midrash or at least one of his favorite
Midrash the details often on a show
around this time of year is the story of
Hashim Bend on the story of the the
tribe of Don his son's name was Hashim
right so he was deaf but he could see
perfectly but he was deaf which is by
the way the opposite of Yitzhak right
Utes huh could hear but he couldn't see
anything and yet Slyke loved a sob but
Hashim saw a sob come to the after
Yaakov passed away to the Mirada Micaela
then we came from a capella hoverin and
a SUP said no this is I have the right
deed to this place and the brothers
started getting into a debate with him
and someone ran off to Egypt to get the
deed to the land to prove to ASA that it
was there that they could marry Yaakov
meanwhile his body is not being buried
which is it disgraced him and pushing
him the opposite of Yitzhak who loved a
saw if he saw a saw he didn't hear his
words and get confused by them he saw
ASA for what he was and he cut off his
head and his head rolled into Murata
Mikayla and he shot always talks about
how they saw via this vision of like a
sobs head like winking and smiling
anyways but what's the idea that Rabbi
Cahn shares that a sobs head actually
belong to their he his in his intentions
his thoughts his mind was wanting to be
holy was wanting to be a good Jew but he
just wasn't able to implement that to
live that truth and and I have to admit
I it was like my first time actually
empathizing with a South because I feel
like that tremendous tremendously that
I'm not living my ideals I'm not living
up to my ideals that's what he was
called a sob he's called the pig right
why was he likened to a pig not to
disgrace the bigger to disgrace Ava but
the pig is the animal that has the split
hooves on the outside meaning it looks
kosher but on the inside it doesn't chew
it's cut so he was he looked on the
outside like he was holy but on the
inside he really wasn't even when he was
born right he was born a soui he was
born completed with a hairy mantle he
looked done but inside he was far from
being evolved or completed at all so
here's the idea you ready for this
Jeremy yes so the famous story is how
did he how did he seem like the pig he
would ask his father Yaakov do you need
to take ty
ma soeur tithe on salt & straw meanwhile
he's going around like murdering and
pillaging and idolatry and he's like
well I'm just wondering about the
exactitude about the laws of tithing do
you need to take tithes on straw or salt
which you don't but he was trying to
convey that he's so holy when in reality
he wasn't okay now what how do we see a
Sabha the father of Christendom of
Catholicism of Rome now here's what the
are Rizal brings up and I love when this
happens when there's stories in my head
you know tales or parts of the Torah
that are self-contained and then you see
the underlying interconnection and who
was the re-al he was a mystic and he
said that when get stock heard a sobs
voice right who did he hear who did he
actually hear from hey sobs voice he
heard the voice of rebbi akiva he the
voice of Asaph but he heard rebbi akiva
because rebbi akiva we know the story of
rebbi akiva of course that he was
actually either it's not clear whether
he or his father converted to being to
being a Jew from a descendant of Asaph
from unalaq from a Mallick meaning that
deep within a sobs voice it was rebbi
akiva trying to get out trying to be
heard and that's what Yitzhak actually
heard and Rabbi Cahn just said it
beautifully it's deep inside the
recesses of a soft soul was rebbi akiva
trying to get out and of course Akiva is
a variant of Yaakov because within Rabbi
Akiva
I know this is sort of abstract but I
just found it so powerful than Rabi
Akiva there is it parts of Yaakov and
parts of ASA because within a sub there
was also parts of Yaakov
right rebbi akiva he had serious issues
with his father-in-law
just like Yaakov did he married Rafael
the love of his life just like Yaakov
did but a sob now here's the story do
you know you remember the tale about
rebbi akiva that they were impoverished
Rocco's wife his wife his her father was
tremendously wealthy he disinherited
them didn't give them anything and they
were sleeping in a barn on straw and
that's all they had was just the straw
that they were sleeping on and right
when they were falling asleep a poor man
came in and said his wife was giving
birth and he needed straw
and so they were able to and they said
of course and they they gave their straw
so what did it rebbi akiva do he
actually gave the tie that gave the mass
air on the straw that ASA asked about -
yet sock isn't that a cool connection of
those two story beautiful connection so
I love these fixing stories because I
see this fixing happening all the time
like the for example route when people
come out around the farm and they stand
on my balcony and I point to where route
came from I talked about how Avraham and
looked Avram said okay listen our
shepherds are fighting with each other
you go one way I'll go the other and
what does let's say okay I'm gonna go
that way to the greener pastures
now looks great great granddaughter Ruth
she was now facing Niomi Nomi said
listen you go home leave or pie left
Bruce said no your nation is my nation
your God is my god your people as my she
wouldn't go right what would you have
said if Avram Avena said to you listen
our Shepherds are fighting you go one
way I'll go the other I would I know I
would have said listen my Shepherds they
are now your Shepherds I'm giving them
to you my sheep or your she I'm just not
I'll do anything you say but I am not
going anywhere I'm staying with you and
that's what Ruth said it's so there was
like fixing there's fixed things going
on even what you just said about Trump
Trump during Kyocera Trump who in my
mind is a human manifestation incarnate
of ace of every attribute every
description of a sum is impulsivity
right his need for everything right now
is his fiery disposition his red hair
his red hair everything his Trump his
Trump and what's Trump doing there's
like a deeper fixing going on there that
that's happening right before eyes this
is like a generation of fixing just it's
almost like this root rifki right she
has within herself the a sob and yaakov
and she was so confused she would go buy
a place of idol worship an ASA would
kick she would go buy a place of tour
learning and Yaakov would kick she
didn't know what was going on go back to
the Garden of Eden we're walking through
the garden won't get into the whole
story but I find that a lot of these
deeper spiritual things all go back to
GaN Eden we're walking through GaN Eden
and we're the recipient of this
overwhelming kindness and goodness and
we
felt this lehem Busha the bread of shame
that were we've done nothing forgot and
he's given us this beautiful garden in
this prophetic connection with him so
Adam they say eats from the tree and all
of a sudden infused within him is this
evil and this confusion and good and
evil are now all mixed in together and
why did he do this because he wanted to
be able to overcome the evil through his
desire to serve God I would have advised
him otherwise but the bottom line is so
there's this all this confusion and it's
almost like within the belly of rifka
this evil and good is now being
distilled out into a sub and into Yaakov
and now it's actually not just internal
within ourselves this confusion of good
and and bad but now it's being distilled
out and this is a conflict a battle
that's going on in the world outside in
the physical world between good and evil
and I used to think that the purpose
here what are we doing here in the world
as we need to conquer that evil we need
to defeat that evil but now and this is
how I think I've changed since being at
the farm over the last number of years I
don't think it's to defeat the evil I
think it's to elevate it I think it's to
bless it because we see that Ishmael did
reconcile with with Isaac Isaac and
Ishmael they became brothers again and
they buried their father together and
that's eventually what will happen with
Yaakov and Asaph there will be a
reconciliation the only way to do that I
think it needs to come from us and it
needs to come in the form of blessing
and of love and that's why you know to
come out to the farm
I had a few groups come out there were
life changing for me one of the most
profound experiences I've had at the
farm was when this J Street like leftist
group came out to the farm they came out
for three hours the first hour they
asked to be alone so they can prepare
themselves emotionally and mentally for
what was about to happen in their
meeting me and then the hour afterwards
they also wanted to be alone so they can
sort of unwind and unpack and deal with
what just the trauma that just happened
with meeting me I guess so I only had
one hour with them and meanwhile they
were going to a lot of these other you
know Ramallah and Toole kerim and just
various I don't know that those places
but constant like dealing
with Arabs and the Palestinians and the
issue so I had a very limited amount of
time to convey to them what the message
was so I did a lot of thinking what it
was and I would say it just came down to
one thing I said this is not a conflict
that's going to be solved it's only
going to be transcended that you're
looking at this through political
two-state solution that's not what this
is at all this is a spiritual issue this
is a religious issue this is a
collective trauma that Ishmael has from
being cast off into the desert with his
mother to die and feeling second to
Isaac we pray three times a day they
want to pray five times a day and that's
where the hatred comes from and that's
why the blessing is going to come from
love and from only when we love them and
we bless them and has to be listen I'm
not like a fluffy leftist we have to be
strong and we have to defend ourselves
but at the same time we can build them
up I don't know did you see the story in
The Jerusalem Post Jeremy about this
Arab group that that has now rejected
the BDS movement it was a huge
conference of Arab leaders from around
the world that came together and they
rejected the BDS movement is like just a
pie in the face of so many of these
leftists that are propagating the
boycott divestment sanctions thing which
by the way I also told them that while
these left is their mean is their well
meaning and they want to do something
good this it's the same Western
imperialism coming in and meddling and
tempering and projecting what they think
the issues are and they think the
solutions are this arrogance like who
why are you coming from the West and
we're having issues with our cousins
here and we're figuring it out and we're
back in our land and now you're gonna
come and impose your solutions on the
whole thing that that always drove me
nuts anyways so this is what it says
just a little thing from the Jay post it
says in regards to the BDF movement the
founding statement of this organization
stated that the boycott quotes Tiny's
hopes for peace between the Israeli and
Palestinian people preventing from
engaging either of the two peoples
directly Arabs were unable to cultivate
ties that could have enabled them to
foster conciliation and compromise on
both sides
the boycott increased
suffering of both societies and weakened
their capacities this is from the Arabs
that said that and it's just so true you
even told me about your conversation
with Hamid right you remember that tell
me you said you said why is there a
conflict between us you remember do you
remember how we answer sure he said the
Jews here I believe us from God without
Arabs there's no workers and without
Jews there's no work and that our
presence here brings prosperity peace
and stability to a very unstable region
in the world and from this rocky barren
mountain we've brought prosperity and
blessing to over 40 Arab families that
have helped us build this whole campus
so literally these are people that don't
have huge bank accounts they're living
like they get the paycheck and they put
the food on the table which by the way
isn't that far from how our lives are
very often as well but so we're really
in the in the same we're in the same
situation together and that's why it was
cool when I was talking to this leftist
group you know I made sure to say at the
beginning listen I know you're
well-intentioned our goal here is not to
change each other just to understand
each other you may ask me questions I
don't know I'm not a political guy just
gonna share my experience just sort of I
found that almost more important than
anything was the disclaimers beforehand
and as I was talking to them bossom this
Arab Bedouin from the nearby village he
shows up at my house and you know when
we see each other I give him five I give
him a hug and I told them he I just had
dinner with him I just had dinner with
him last night at my house which
happened happened to be true the first
time it was the first time we did that
but it happened be true that he came
over for dinner and I'm like they must
have been thinking how what do I do for
Arabs that I'm coming in so
sanctimonious and virtuous trying to
help them when in reality I'm just
hurting them they're hurting them
there's just so much confusion so much
confusion yeah well I want to say
something just about the this week's
Torah portion as you like said so much
about Trump and about the realities and
you know the beauty about the Torah
portion is it literally is a Shems
message to each person individually in
their lives it's you you pray to God
looking for answers sometimes you might
feel an intuition sometimes you might
get a dream that might inspire you but
very often like his word is his answer
he's broadcasting this
message every week to every Jew around
the world and now to the nations that
are sort of tapping into that collective
message as well so last week it's could
be more clear that Trump's declaration
is happening right at the parsha of
highest Sarah and Trump a sort of taken
the center stage as a sub is now being
born and just to understand a dome ace
of Asaph spiritually in the Jewish
tradition represents the West it
represents the European Union what has
been birthed out of the Catholic Church
and you know a sub is depicted as this
strong beautiful person progress the
material the physical the immediate in
the fast food it is just Western
civilization encapsulated in a man
similar to last week's Torah portion
where Abraham is talking to this guy
named F throne which literally should be
translated as dust in the man's name is
afar his name is dusty he's talking to
the manifestation of land of earth as
he's acquiring the land in Israel ASA is
just a manifestation in this idea of
what the Western world is and I'm
looking at Donald Trump who is just this
bread haired ace of manifest just as Ari
just said now and there is something
that's going on here he is representing
the the one side of the United States of
America and I would say that you know
it's divided between Democrats and
Republicans but I feel like if you're
really just like Pierce down to what
what is the fundamental divide there
between these conservatives and these
liberals what are they conserving
they're conserving the Jewish traditions
of the American civilization they're
conserving the judeo-christian values I
don't like the word judeo-christian
because Christianity didn't really add
anything to the Judeo ethnic they just
sort of like took what Judaism had and
just brought it to the world but it's a
biblical ethic that they are conserving
and so he now as the leader of America
last time Obama did not represent the
Judeo epoch at all but Trump does he
represents very much spiritual
dimensions of it a vase up but he's a
see he like takes the full circle of it
he literally takes these spiritual
underpinnings of his support and his
progress
his manly womanizing physical rude just
he is this reality and look at what's
happening sometimes you know I feel like
Ari and I take great pride in being a
light to the nation's and opening up
this place in Judea to the world and
whoever wants to connect to King David
and the Feli and the prayers that were
composed in this holy place to bring
them on board but we see that something
is happening you know without us it's
like manifesting before our eyes that
ASA before our very eyes is doing chuhwa
in a way that's just been unprecedented
that there is like a bond that's you
know Trump is like just like an amazing
leader in that way the whole world
inside America and outside of America is
pressuring him don't move the embassy to
Jerusalem and he moves the embassy to
Jerusalem don't recognize the goal i
night he recognizes the Golan Heights
don't defund the United Nations he D
funds the United Nations and now
recognizing the Jewish rights to Judea
it's just such a declaration of truth
and it is a sub because imagine if Trump
was against us god forbid he is a scary
guy Donald Trump is a scary guy he is
Asaph and if he were to turn against the
Jews all of that power and that lust in
that passion in that impulsiveness
turned against us is a terrifying
thought he could be a terrifyingly look
at the Kurds I mean they're just now
being slaughtered by Turkey not that the
world cares at all but if I build an
extension off of my mere pet it's
international headlines but right now
ASA with all of the power that was given
to the Western world and the leader
right now of the Western world is in
some ways before our very eyes building
a bridge of chuva between our peoples
and it's just marvelous to see that it's
happening right as we read the Torah
portions of Yaakov and a sub and their
split but they're ultimately prophesied
to come together again and so I just
feel like our hope is to bring a little
bit of sanity to this crazy world
because without the Torah and without
the vision of the Tanakh you can just
get lost in Borough Park are lost with
Corvettes and garages in the you know
mansions of the United States
and here's just I don't know the Torah
from Zion from the mountains of Judea
and you know the headquarters that we're
building here I just feel like it's a
like Factory we just had yesterday a
seminary I made Raja of you know young
women that have finished high school
they've stayed here for one year of
study and now this group actually stayed
for a second year of Torah study before
they go off to colleges like the cream
of the crop do you know how many of them
came to me were like this is the most
exciting thing that I've ever done ever
at any point in my life that's what they
said yes look II just I have I had to
like pull out my camera just a video
than they planted two trees out here and
they were just so moved and and for just
imagine being us right I think about
what it is to be me all the time I'm so
spoiled and pampered spiritually that I
have sometimes in a day two or three the
Jews a Houston Jewish Federation came
out here mind blown
I was contacted by the leader that said
it was one of the most powerful
experience that they've had in Israel to
be able to go through your day and have
three groups come out and see and
experience and go on the journey with
them meaning it's not boring for me to
do this these tours because each
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with new people that are going on a
totally different journey and to see an
experience and go on that journey with
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it works you can go to that and now one
of the wonderful things about the farm
for me is that I'm able to bring out
people who I deeply respect and admire
I'm grateful for and I'm gonna bring
them out here and show them the place
and interview them so so many of the
ideas that I share they're from so many
different sources but one of
primary sources for many years is Rabbi
Ari Cahn and I was able to bring him and
his wife out to the farm and interview
them so I want you to hear from Rabbi
Ari con Shalom from Judea Shalom
Aleichem and here we are with Rabbi Ari
con who who has been for many years one
of the most profound influences on my
life on my thinking on the prism through
which I experienced my Torah journey his
ideas I try to quote him but they've
already been so deeply integrated into
my worldview and into the way I think
that I just sort of in my heart and
often I say my great rabbis my great
influences in Rabbi Cahn is definitely
in there and to have him come out to the
farm experience what we're doing out
here in Judea to see the place and then
to being able to interview him well it's
a very very big deal for me when I read
through his his books echoes of Eden is
a series of books which I highly
recommend everybody get because I was
telling my dear friend Arthur who was
here next to me who I'll share a little
bit about later every time I read
through his parsha commentaries and
insights I say there's just no other way
I could possibly anyone could ever
possibly read this parsha
without it being this way there's just
nothing more anyone could say about the
parsha and then I read the next one and
I'm like oh my god that's just every
single one of them is mind-blowing so to
have rabbi Cahn here you know you look
at me just he looks like a god-fearing
Jew but he looks like just another
person that you would walk by on the
street and you don't know that you're in
the presence of one of the Great's of
our generation in my humble opinion
Sarabhai khan it's an honor to have you
out here thank you so much for for
joining us on Israel inspired on the
Land of Israel Network thank you for the
excessive energy and exaggerated words
exaggerated not quite or nor excessive
but we won't get into that right now so
let me just start you know we're talking
about the your body of work right now I
want to get a little bit into your your
back story your origin story but the the
primary works you've put out in
at least the one I've experienced and I
feel like such a fool for not having you
bring a bunch of all of your books
because I love hoarding the Great's farm
that have influenced me then I give them
as gifts when people come so we're gonna
have to make that meeting next time so I
can you know I get many of your books
but echoes of Eden that's part of my
weekly Torah diet and usually what
happens is one year I'm reading echoes
of Eden next year I'll move on to
another you know commentary but for some
reason I just can't wean myself off of
it and a number of years now I read them
again and again and they're they're just
as beautiful echo echoes of Eden would
be in my mind your primary primary books
but there's also emanations
there's also explorations how are these
different what could you share with me
what you've put into the world so
explorations was my first book what
happened was I wrote essays as emails
back in 1996 mainly to keep in contact
with my students and what explorations
was was an attention students at
bar-ilan University and other places and
that was an attempt to be able to keep
in contact with them so really it was
and it it was a truncated form of the
class now when I wrote it I had spoken
to somebody who was very involved in the
publishing business and she was involved
in hundreds of books and she said it's
good but you need to cut it down around
30% and then we can mass-market it and I
said I don't want to cut it down 30% I
want it as it is and that was a book
which was 500 pages and all five books
of the tour one in saying why would she
have said that arbitrarily picked 30%
because she didn't have the patience for
it
she knows the market wouldn't have the
patience for it if she wants me to get
into a non-jewish market she wanted to
go all over the world and she felt that
we needed to dumb it down those are the
words that she used
we need to dumb it down a little bit and
then we can get it out there in mass
market it and then it could have a much
larger impact and I didn't want to dumb
it down now what's happened now is 20
years later I have rewritten that book
so the there's a new book that I just
put out and I mean you got your hands on
literally the first copies
arrived in Israel yesterday and it's
called explorations expanded so what I
gave you now was 350 pages on
desperation just on Genesis and what I
did is I worked on it more instead of
taking out the 30% now I added an
another 50% and now I added in some new
essays and I headed in some sources and
their Hebrew sources are there so now
instead of just reading it again
echoes Avedon was a book which was
interesting because I wrote it that
people can learn it not just learn it
not just read it to learn it you can sit
with LaRussa and read in north of route
then read it you can use it if you teach
a class because the sources are all
there so what I did now is updated
explorations and made it look like it
goes of Eden and I hope in the next
couple of years to put out four more
volumes of this okay so that's echoes of
Eden yes okay and exploration
exploration so you're gonna take each
one of the books from echos of Eden and
four from explorations no each one of
the books from echoes of Eden and
combine them into one exploration no no
okay so I so I see that I have the total
lack of clarity so what I'm reading is
again that original 500 page it's
rushing through my mind or the plethora
of questions I want a barrage you it
will go we'll get there in a second s
the 500 page book now became first line
350 pages second volume will be again
operations second vine will be expanded
explorations on Schmoe and then expand
on the number eight core then by mid
Birds burn so most of the work on this I
have already done and now the question
is do I want to add more essays into it
you know I the book came out and over
the summer I decided I want to hit one
more essay but I missed the deadline so
I was still working on it most of last
week why because it was on Pascha and
Noah and it was something that I wrote
about where I gave a lecture on it I
never had written it before and I'm
still am I finished with it you said you
asked about why not yes before when I
write God should give me time and
strength and so on give you tremendous
time and strength actually the last
night when we were communicating I sent
you a whatsapp and you responded very
quickly and I was really shocked about
that because I picture you with all
communications off in a room with
candles and in
total seclusion because I can only
imagine the depth of concentration it
would take to be able to bring all that
together and so the truth is I would
really like to know your process I'd
love to know how it happens how these
ideas come to you and when they're
coming to you when you're writing them
do you the sources just pop into your
head from a lifetime of study and you
just remember where they are like I just
don't know how you're able to aggregate
the sources in the right way is this a
legitimate question yeah it's it's
legitimate it isn't because what you're
asking really is a process of creativity
so how was a person to explain
creativity any any I mean I would like
to believe that any creativity that I
have is because for the audience and the
people that read it and the people that
listen to the classes and that God gives
you God uses me as a vessel and many
other teachers as vessels and because
people read it so therefore I have these
insights and maybe that's a total
cop-out answer but if you want to know
more technically this is always gonna be
a combination what I'll do is early on
that's a weekly class I'm gonna give I
will early on in the week I will try to
read the entire portion should I make
record Targum total old school nothing
fancy read it through and and study my
current avatar go for our listeners is
just the reading of the shots meaning
just the reading of the text itself
twice and then with Rashi or Tarkin
it's our uncle's uncle it's oaklands
targum I thought it was no no no no
people do other things but I said old
school old school is two times to read
the text and one time to read the
Aramaic translation of it which is the
closest to a literal translation so in
that foundational basic diet of yours
Rashi doesn't show up no interesting no
just text nothing else just text and
then what will happen is the way that
I'm thinking is thematically ideas
combinations words is something
repeating itself I look at the
characters I look at things they've done
I question issues like that and more
often than not
will identify what I'm looking for and
then I'll look for sources which means I
already know what the sources are gonna
say before I have found them right okay
well your sources are from the entire
breadth and scope of the TANF the Gemara
the midrash the entire corpus of jewish
learning is so tell me a little bit
about your journey through life where
were you born how did you come to do you
have a photographic memory I don't
believe so I don't remember so he said
you were born I was born in Brooklyn New
York and my father's a rabbi and a
clinical psychologist um brought up in a
moderate and Orthodox home although it's
interesting because you know what is
Modern Orthodox it's realistic
yeah it's it's where the people are
monitored and the rabbi's Orthodox so um
I was brought up in that kind of home I
have an older brother a user of it many
of them older older brother who's very
accomplished on behalf of my father's as
well very accomplished that was awesome
my brother teaches here in along foot
English so you're from a long dynasty
and that dynasty is a big word but my
great-grandfather was a very prestigious
for a plane as well if we're talking
about your great-grandfather being a
perceived as relevant it's officially a
dynasty dynasty and and I got a very
good education I'll put it like that I
was privileged to be able to to study
with ruff salivate shook for three years
I was in his class towards the end of
his life I'm probably one of the younger
people when I was in this year I may
well have been the first year the
youngest person in this year and I
stayed with her by listing for four
years as well and along the way I've
been privileged to be able to study with
some really really special people and
did you have a process because I know I
feel like my my learning has been a
little bit hodgepodge did you have a
process did you do
Tanna and then Mishnah and then Gemara
or no no I I you know in high school I
probably didn't take things all that
seriously
I came to Israel for the year when I was
17 where did you go I was in a place
called BMT I stayed there for two
I was also in VM teams there for two
years and then I went to good chef
towards a third year at some place in
the middle I spent around as man or so
with her of Koosman who was in Rafah via
and I would say that by the time I came
back after the three years in Israel
then I made a decision that I warned
note 2 na but I want to know just what
it says which means I felt that my
Jewish education till that point had
caused this confusion of homage and
Rashi or ho machinery behind Commission
other things and it was that point I
started to build but I had felt I needed
to build from the ground floor first I
need to know what the text says and then
I can go through all of Rashi and then
every year I would I would try to go
through different commentaries and along
the way getting more and more right so a
lot of times nowadays you know you quote
something you don't even realize it's
Arashi and it's not the actual text of
right and you know that's something I
have to deal with students because I
know that they don't know the difference
sometimes and then I started to go
through more more esoteric things when I
was yet now I'll start all over again
independent of finale's part of this is
actually quite amusing to me I don't
know any other word to use that a lot of
people know of me as somebody who has
taught to enough when then really wasn't
my first interest it was it was more so
Madrid shim Camaro
I got do't and things like that if you
would have asked me some some thirty
years ago if you would have asked me
some thirty years ago you know you can
write a book I would have said yeah I'm
gonna write a book on Anka dodo
that would have been my first thing and
it was my first love but I got the note
is the stories of the Talmud and the
stories or stories and when I say that
what I mean is that we need to be able
to distill from those stories what
wisdom is and ultimately I believed and
I was looking for mysticism as well and
ultimately I believed that the most core
Jewish mystical teachings were contained
within the town with itself and I ended
up going towards all kinds of later
you know readings and texts as well
going through what we would call more
classic mysticism or what we would call
perhaps let's say there
Hasidic writings subsequently but but I
used them because what they were doing
is that they were explaining some of
these core ideas but I felt it was
almost like a watering down taking place
so I ended up going back to these core
sources trying to you know take away all
the veneer to look underneath you know
that the pure wood which is underneath
and they're interesting what those
messages was were and I was teaching the
whole time the whole time I've been
teaching the alga dote even though as I
said I ended up writing other things cuz
you know on there's a market for partial
to chef wah and people seem to be
interested in it so the partial shavoo
on this is I think the partial touch of
or the weekly Torah portion it helps by
giving sort of a systematic way to go
about learning the Torah you know it
gives you just a portion a doable
bite-sized amount of Torah that you can
do on a weekly level that's why I even
started going into simila because I was
learning in such a hodgepodge way I was
hoping that Samia would give me some
sort of context to to approach Torah
learning so um so yes so you were saying
so with the parser Shiva what's
interesting is that every year I give no
classes every year my partial Shiva
class is going to be different the ones
that I give in various places in in our
neighborhood I've been giving one for a
women's class I don't know for how many
years 20-something years well that makes
sense in the womb in your neighborhood
because it's the same woman's but if
you're teaching at bar-ilan University
and varices Shiva you could
theoretically do the same thing ever you
could but I've been giving classes on
the öyou center and I have people been
coming for 20 years
well you said they probably won't resort
hear from you for 20 years what do I
give different classes so every year
I'll do something which is which is
different but the odd odd that I've been
teaching is the same one year after year
after year and therefore the analysis
has just gotten deeper and deeper and
deeper so I finally I would say I don't
know if the last how many years I
started writing it some of the essays in
this new book it's gonna be called
crowns on the letters and it's done the
book is finished the book is ready to
come out
it's just thirteen chapters on thirteen
I got 13 stories on the Talmud but again
these the
essays that I wrote could be 30 40 pages
now analyzing one you know teacher why
did you decide first of all I reserved
the first five copy five copies of the
first batch okay okay if that's okay no
pressure but - why do you call it crowns
on the letters because of one of the
teachings with that I'm dealing with is
a story of Rabbi Akiva his classroom
that a man named Moses Moshe wanders
into that classroom and he what you said
a man named Moshe I learned that it was
Moshe Rabbeinu well sure obey no that is
the man he wanders into the classroom
that he's a quest and the quest is to
try to figure out what in the world of
those crowns that God is putting on what
he sees up on Mount Sinai he's putting
crowns on the letters and why do you
need crowns don't letters so I then go
to try to explain what this teaching is
and as I said I have 13 chapters on
these okoto the book is finished and the
publisher is just still trying to raise
a little bit more money because Jewish
publishers are convinced that they
cannot make their money selling books
really yeah so or they can't make as
much money as if they also have which is
fine so the book has been waiting it's
ready it's done it's ready and is that
frustrating for you that the read ibly
yeah I imagine greater frustrating the
book is ready okay okay so so crowns on
the letters that's coming out soon so
let me ask you this okay we're right now
we just finished the book of the parsha
of noah and we're going into lexico yeah
right you're sitting down with a group
right now and they say teach us teach us
the heart of la flaca teach us what the
primary messages in the in the portion
of LA in the book of Genesis Sulekha
that
let's look actually has a whole bunch of
teachings it's not it's not that there's
one thing you have our home and Sarah
going on a quest but I'll start off what
I would be thinking of first question I
would have why does God she was out for
him why him of all people did God talk
to other people with other people that
God spoke to who thought they were
having some kind of a psychotic episode
and would not do it or they didn't have
you know did other people get the dream
that you have right here to build a farm
and they just woke up in the morning
said well that was insanity I'm
doing that again are you the only
lunatic of the head this dream I mean
perhaps there's hundreds of others but
they just they couldn't deal with it so
that that to me is very intriguing I
mean I actually did find sources that
say that God speaks spoke to everybody
and told every single person get up and
come over here and only one guy listened
so I found that really really
interesting but that goes back to my
question that I'm looking for why
Avraham why is he the one who's chosen
what is it what is it that he has done
which means as we enter into the story
we don't have any reason any rationale
for this you know Noah even we're told
oh he's a righteous man
when I told anything about him we're
just told one thing that he goes but the
second thing and this is something which
also I think takes a great deal of
thought God uses the words left' look on
you know pick up and go and then that's
like a general turn let's look up pick
up a go to be good for you and so on he
actually uses that terminology twice
when speaking without for him he uses it
over here in the very beating of
L'Aquila and he uses it again at the end
of a era the end of a era he's telling
him to go and to do the akkada to go and
offer his son and uses the exact so
really anything that you're gonna say
about what lek Lahore really means it
should be consistent than mean the same
thing over there and that's what I mean
that that the first time I read I pay
attention to language I try to look at
words I try to hold on to the words or
is this a common word an uncommon word
what kind of term is used other places
how is it used how consistent is this so
that other left look ah it has then has
a difference in terms of response there
it says finish game out of them about
care of them gets up early in the
morning and it goes that's lacking over
here so now whenever there's gonna be
some symmetry then you look for the
symmetry in the asymmetry so you have
symmetry in terms of the phrases you
have asymmetry in terms the response and
that leads me then to another question
did I open get up and go immediately
ordered out from wake up lots of times
after hearing gods say to go which means
that becomes a far more intriguing thing
and I see you want to respond to that no
I never even thought of such a thing but
that would be the quote right here I am
a book here meaning I Ram woke up early
in the morning and he saddled his donkey
to do something as dreadful as the
and that he was given to sacrifice his
son so we just sort of elaborating on
what you're saying so if it if it does
not say that he responded that way so
the first initial one we could ask the
question that you're saying was he
receiving this again and again and he
just maybe shirked it off what right so
so that see also what we just now did is
we turned the album into a person we and
we always have to walk a very fine line
with you know I said most short guy
names most remaining emotions at Moshe
Rabbeinu and I say a man named Avram you
say ah Verma me know which is there's a
line to walk over here we're dealing
with the spiritual Giants beyond our
imagination who nonetheless we human
beings also so therefore is it really
though beyond our imagination or could
it be that you know because one of the
my qalam my issues with art scroll you
know the the books that you read about
the the greats of our of the Jewish past
like the Vilna Gaon would say AHA Cole
and his mother's breast milk you know
it's like just such high levels of that
it makes them almost out of out of our
grasp but if if they're really out of
our grasps and why would have Shem have
put them before us meaning Jeremy tells
the story but when he left nav a Daniel
sold his house and built this out here
and the huge massive trauma that it was
for him and his family and that Avram
once he left Hashem didn't talk to him
anymore for a while and he's just
wandering in the desert wondering what
has he just done so what is your sort of
go on shake it makes him a person you
were saying so my first response is then
the olden days they used to breastfeed
kids till they three or four years old
able to say a brook is not as impressive
so maybe as you made it sound maybe even
five years old second the second point
is that there's attention there's
attention because they are and they will
remain our spiritual Giants on the other
hand they are human beings so it you
know there's a term which is used in
modern Israel in terms of learning
Tanakh but globally I am to look at
people you know in the eye is word on
the same level
I - I is if they're regular people so I
believe we can do that but we also have
to realize for me to look at him in the
eye which we have to do because if
they're not human beings what can we
learn from it but I do have to realize I
have to get on a step stool to look at
them in the eye
and I think that stuff still is very
important it's not just a regular guy
like any other guy we have to be careful
and now go back to spiritual John what
would have to have hubris of epic
proportions not to think that right but
then I go back and say wow did I or
maybe hesitate was there hesitation
there did it take time and then as you
start looking and sort of thinking's
easy part of what I do is I notice the
words I notice the ideas or I'm looking
and part of what I do is I just keep
things in mind and keep track of things
that other people sort of just you know
play over you know you we mentioned you
know the study of Rashi is the you know
basic study do you realize that Rashi in
this of exposure
says the following that when a firm has
the stream later on chapter 15 he has
this vision and he not speaks to him and
says but you should know you're gonna
have a child but you're going you're
gonna inherit the land but your
descendants are going to be enslaved and
abused right for 400 years and the
fourth generation is going to be come
back over here Syrah she then says that
when it talks about you were descendants
it's talking about yet look that we
started counting from yet stuck Raschi
later on she mode is going to tell you
that the counting of the 400 years is
actually from the birth of its cook but
then he adds another point than this
isn't about there it says that the
duration of 430 years the Jews left so
how do you give an extra 30 years in
there you know I know if you live in
Israel you'll say was mom right taxes
and so on and therefore okay we're never
surprised when extra money gets tacked
on extra years get down but you but you
realize that's a problem where's the 430
years and there he says no 30 years
took place between when God spoke to the
point that yes was born so good so now I
know that when yet slick was born on
from was a hundred thirty years before
that Avram were 70 so therefore the Brit
beta battery and the Covenant that took
place when God says I'm gonna give you
all this land and your your descendants
and so on
all took place when he was 70 years old
go back to the beginning of life look
and it says an average 75 years old when
he left but it doesn't say how old he
was when God spoke to him so now I have
five more years in order to account and
you realize now
that just got inside your head and
you're stuck and you have to buy my
books now because you're stuck because
you're gonna have now figure this out
what in the world is going on
because then it's clear that he's 75 and
why she just told me 70 now why didn't
you remember that Rashi because he never
put it together you just never you just
never went to that sort of take it at
face value and you're just sort of
flowing through here yeah it takes a
certain amount of critical if reading
with the critical eye - yeah and say
holding so what's going on over here now
I go back to my question okay God's it
left the fine it doesn't say that he got
up the next morning how much time tick
place it doesn't say how old he was when
God said to go it says he was 75 years
old when he left how much time did plays
did he go more than once did he go once
inna to go back did he make a pilot trip
and then go back because didn't work out
the first time did he go wouldn't it
have included that maybe it does it
actually says he left twice but you have
to pay attention really in the first
five verses in the first five verses it
talks what I'm from leaving twice but
you just didn't notice it it says but
Yela
of romka sure DeBell of hashem they yell
at you to load the off-ramp information
in machine vision of it's a tome if I
run an Avram did as God commanded
doesn't say when and it says that he
that lo 20 min Ivan was 75 years in love
Quran and the next verse says v kaha
from it Soraya stove it load benefit and
Ivan took Sarai his wife and to quote
why did it say it's a cloud it just said
he took him the last verse is this the
same trip whereas this two different
trips and I'll say that now once I asked
the question now you can start looking
at the commentaries right it would also
make sense that the second verse should
be before the first verse yes the e
cough and then viola and first he took
them and then he went right this as he
went and then he took them and then he
went right well that is establishes an
entirely new narrative narrative of one
of the foundational stories of the
Jewish people would you say that is the
foundational story of the Jewish people
viola right now was about the humanity
you know what you know what I noticed
about Noah and there's nothing tragic
right now first of all he's silent he
never speaks there's no there's no
there's no speech the
first time he talks is after he himself
was hurt either physically or
emotionally by his son in the first
things he says is he curses his son
there the whole story there was no words
that's the first thing comes out his
cursing his son and later on when God
speaks to him was about to speak to him
well that is another thing is that
amazing I've never thought of it the
first thing he says that's so tragic
it's it's it's completely tragic and
then you contrast this with what does
God say to himself or as an editorial
comment before he's about to inform
Avram about what's what he's gonna do to
stone he says I'm gonna tell her about
this because I was a great person and he
is going to instruct his children and he
instruct his children alone never
instructs his children the people always
Noah no I'm sorry never instructs his
children and the people that are
building the tower or Knox descendants
and according to at least biblical
chronology Noah's still there no
instruction no communications the same
lack of a spot of caring of
consideration of warning of the people
of a generation he built that he built
the the ark but no Vetrov a chef
Michelle right there was no it's all
lacking it's it's none of it's there and
that's the argument that the rabbis have
about him is he is he really so great or
not so great
so reveal Helen says he's not so great
you know had he lived in a better
generation he wouldn't have been all
that great cuz look he's not like great
rich Lukesh the Bell Chava and I have a
whole chapter in which location the book
on I gotta write where's lucky she
labelled chuhwa their penitence the man
who used to be a criminal
he says you he says now had he been in a
better generation been better because he
was I I know what it's like to be in a
bad group of people I know what it's
like if you mean a better group of
people to imagine rich sluggish making
this observation that's interesting
right and saying no no he would have
been far greater he says take the
criminal and put them in the basement
rich it's like there's the ladder right
it's how many now as you've climbed so
no off climb tremendous now just which
if you come to our room it doesn't
compare but if you compare it to Algrim
there's something lacking there isn't
there again I'm just imagine who I'm
from it is Avram is somebody who is
dedicated to kindness the decency to
helping other
people and when God says I'm going to
wipe out the people who are the very
antithesis of what you are the people
who stand against kindness against
generosity against decency so can you
imagine somebody today saying I'm gonna
get rid of your mortal enemy and all of
them says no no these people who juji's
offerings kindness is even towards the
people who are in his way
because even them he feels us love to
and again I think that all of us I'm no
offense towards you I think all of us
fall short on that to be able to look at
our quote-unquote an average adversaries
and say no no these people are people
and they can change that's been one of
my greatest votos one of my greatest you
know internal processes of growth out
here when we were rated by peace now one
of the greatest challenges was working
through in my heart saying these are my
fellow Jews okay I love them even though
they're seeking to harm me
Hashem Lilu Ramaiah SLE Adam they won't
be able to hurt us that's unless Hashem
wills it there's room to love them and
have compassion on them but it is not
easy and and what they're doing is
coming from Jewish values I don't think
applied properly but it's coming from
Jewish Val
I actually strongly agree with that and
it's a very precious idea for me but
tell me what you mean by that if you
don't mind Jewish values of caring about
rights of others and caring about this
the other so you know I would love to
believe that that's the case however if
there is any shred of intellectual
honesty there they are standing in
between Arabs and Prosperity meaning we
have Arabs working here we're putting
food on the table we have wonderful
relationships I think that if they claim
it's really about Arab rights there's a
little disingenuous and is there what I
was feeling about the Jewish values the
peace now is rooted within is it's the
desire for tikkun olam in the sense of
having the world love us and they feel
like the thing that's standing between
meaning it's not the you know Jews of
have run that they hate it the Jew
within themselves that's different
because what does it mean to have Jewish
unity Jewish identity that we're
different than the rest of the
they want the world to have one global
consciousness I think that's in my
experience with them and dealing with
them I've come to believe that that's a
little bit more their motivation and the
whole Arab writes things a little bit
not so much but that's neither here nor
there thoughts my thoughts are a piece
now here's the problem
of course in order to say I will achieve
peace now means that you have to live in
a delusion now because it's not peace
now unfortunately certain processes yes
it's a long time to work out rev I meet
all who who taught not so far from where
we are right now he felt that the
Cheviot the noun is that the need for
immediate gratification even spiritual
emotional others was part of the problem
of this generation first whether it be
mushy Akasha or whether it be shallow
Mashav that this action he felt was
something which was very dangerous and
spiritually immature and even michiochi
yes yes he felt that was spiritually
mature and he felt that again if it's
here than good but don't imagine it's
here when it's not but what I was what I
was trying to get out was a slightly
different point there's this beautiful
Madras beautiful teaching that says that
when God was coming to the world he he
spoke with various attributes as a war
spoke with a peace in circles truths and
so on and and and and and kindness and
decency and justice and it says that
they were all arguing and then God takes
truth and throws to the ground so I
think one of the responses of this and
there's a lot to say about this but one
of the again I can be very gratuitous
and say I have a chapter on this as well
in the new book but I've also written
about this and a couple of other books
on the parsha what happens when truth is
thrown to the ground it shatters and
therefore truth is all over the place
and what I find is that many peoples of
this world have taken little pieces of
truth and they contain truth they have
truth and part of greatness of us our
own greatness is being able to find the
pieces of truth in other people as well
I'm not saying it's always distilled in
exactly the proper way but there there
are grains of truth over there and if we
can't see it then there's a problem
within us or if we get blinded by the
parts that we see are false right and
we're not able to see past that
to see the truth it's there all right
we're in and I think that I think it's a
very healthy way of looking at the world
because even within the Jewish community
I think that this is very pronounced
that there's different aspects and I
think terms in the entire world and just
to take that teaching that's what it
means truth is thrown to the ground so
what's our job is to put it back
together again it's sort of you know
like Humpty Dumpty on a cosmic level
right right okay so I literally could
keep you here forever but I'm gonna have
just two last questions you can answer
them however long you want to and I
would literally just I would just sit by
the dust of your feet for the next year
and a half and be grateful for people
can't see there's a lot of dust over you
that's true you shall love the the
stones in the dust of the land right
from Salem we better love it here
because there's a lot of it we're
talking about lexicon and Avraham Avinu
Abraham what Abraham didn't have the
Torah did he find God first did God find
him first
did he there's a belief that he deduced
the existence of God how I've probably
had a more complex spiritual journey
than we give him credit for um in my
first book explorations which is now
more work dad I'm really sorry for doing
this but in exploration expanded I
pointed out something which I noticed
which i think is interesting and I
checked this out I'm for his father did
something different from every single
person who live till that point he named
his son a his father's name was
Nahar if they have lots of people who
name their son after their father or his
father Terah was the first one to do
this that means that oblems father had
an appreciation of where things came
from which means tariff is personality
who's a very interesting personality
which means I'm going to now an answer
your question by asking a different
question which is what we do did often
come in a vacuum or did is there that
you know nature nurture however you want
but is there an atmosphere that creates
him you know I gave a little YouTube
talk on this last year and I talked
about how
from Apple no Newton according to the
story the Apple falls off and hits it on
the head whether that happened or not
what was a firm's Apple what was the
thing that hit his head and anyway Wow
this is what's going on so that I
considered the fact that opera was grown
up in a famine a family with an
appreciation of where things come from
because every time he looks at his
brother he realizes that it that that's
a reminder and a memory as a word of his
grandfather
so therefore albums father had this
appreciation for the past and where
things come from so I think the germ of
Abraham's genius comes out of taking the
logic of terror in a place he can never
the terror himself couldn't take it and
I have a second thing to support that
we're told in the end of last week's
Barcia the tariff had taken Avram and
his family and they were on the way to
the land of Canaan but he stops halfway
so that tells us and it says it says
he's on the way to Kanaan so now you
think about that a second that means
that tariff is this again fascinating
person who has an appreciation for the
past as appreciation for the future but
he can't go all the way and therefore
Avram is this person who's brought up
and he's able to take that next step and
maybe as like we said before maybe God
called out to all peoples on earth maybe
he called out to tariffs maybe that's
the reason terror who's on the way there
but he didn't make it all the way he
stomps I mean the other people didn't
even take the first step that's the
first positive thing I've ever heard
about tariffs you know there's the
Midrash about you know he was the
Walmart of idols and he put off rum in
charge that's the famous one but I've
never heard that about it but it makes
sense it would how can I remove in an in
a total vacuum but but ok so the second
question that I'm going to whine it
I was talking to Arthur and Aaron and
they asked me they said could you sum up
Judaism
ok Judaism and just give me a little
summary what is Judaism
what did you say Arthur the message or
the mission or how did you phrase it
yeah give me a summary of Judaism well I
feel intimidated because you know very
intimidating very intimidating question
no because this was the question that
was asked of shaman who zest of he'll oh
so you didn't actually say it in the way
will teach me all judy's when I'm
standing on one foot
but Shammai had a very interesting
answer does the shaman I took at a stick
but it wasn't any stick it said it was a
builder's stick I would imagine
something that you would use in order to
be able to build buildings and he takes
out this builders stick and he chases
the guy away with it so what is he
saying again this goes back to
understanding I got out he's saying if
you're gonna build a building you can't
stand on one foot a building on one foot
is gonna fall down you need a foundation
and therefore he's using the builders
stick in his hand and he's saying and
he's chasing away no you want to you
want to ask a serious question then
don't ask a very short question like
that you know put it all into one you
know while you're standing on one foot
one really quick answer but that's
interesting because he's saying that you
need something stronger now let's let's
pause there for a second hello then
gives very approaches he'll oh and he'll
give a very interesting answer himself
hillo says that that which is detestable
to you don't you to somebody else that's
the entire Torah everything else is
commentary go ahead and learn there's a
whole bunch of words there that need to
be understood which means the first
thing is something detestable to you
despicable to you don't do to somebody
else Rashi points is out that the other
person includes other people and
includes God which means that's already
a message something you would not want
don't do to others don't do to God that
that's the core of it but why did he
think again
everything else is commentary now you
have to learn the rest of the
commentaries because there's lots and
lots of applications right and go learn
ultimately it can't go down to one
principle it has to learn was a part of
this summer he's absolutely is
absolutely an important part of it
frunze rosen sort made that point he
said that the go learn is actually the
key to the entire thing but I was always
intrigued by the difference in Hillel
and Shammai because by the way Xiaomi
was not a bad guy sha mais you know i
would imagine this was on his tombstone
but he said in pyaar kiya vote that you
should greet everybody you know with a
good countenance right makka bill called
um per se for putting your vote treat
everybody means that Shah was a guy who
had a smile on his face
all the time Shama was the guy he would
meet somebody I how you doing whatever
because you imagine Shama is being mad
and angry and bad and so shall I just
has one unfortunate circumstance and
that is that Hillel lives at the same
time as him if there if Gila wasn't
there
shaman would be this unbelievable
superstar but I'm stressing that was his
saying treat people you know me couple
safer putting up street people with a
smile that's what he's teaching his
students greet people in the morning say
you'd be the guy to say good morning to
people that that's who Shawn my was no
he didn't say in this instance because
he felt that he felt that the foundation
isn't strong enough if you take it down
to one principal but why did he'll think
it was so that got me thinking of the
vision the image of standing on one foot
right you can't do in one foot but you
know when we pray when we say the Amidah
we stand with our two feet together why
to make it look like one foot why to be
like angels because angel stands on one
foot which means the difference in
Hillel and Shammai was hot Shani was
practical and on a practical level you
have to teach people a foundation they
can stand down because he can't stand on
one foot but angel stand on one foot and
every person that Hillel met he thought
was an angel and an angel you can teach
them when they're standing on one foot
because there's something very angelic
and something special about them and
maybe that's the way that what's
distastefully to don't do to others go
see the other person as being an angel
of God see that see the humanity and
other people see the decency in other
people love other people because of that
spirit within them and if you can do
that then everything else becomes the
details and that's what Judy's messages
Wow
I guess that would be a fantastic way to
wind down our little conversation here
together let's before we leave I just
how could people find out about you
about your teachings about your books
get in contact with you is there a
central primary website after if they
google you every website in the world
comes up yes yes there is something
called rabbi our econ comm which is not
functional a student of mine put it
together but it needs to be we need a
resurrection we have I do have a blog
another reason for Michele out we do I
have a blog which is
explorations our recon explorations look
you easy to find that I have a presence
in terms of people want to listen to
audio lectures on why you Tora I have
hundreds of lectures over there one
searches around you can also find
hundreds of essays but on the blog every
week I put a list of the lectures and of
the essays on that week's parsha and you
can be find yourself with enough
material to this is why you tour on X on
my Expo on your exploration yeah you can
find him what is that website it's cool
it's it's a blog and it's called
explorations dot-com yeah something like
that
you think I know exactly what it's
called Arika if you look re okay if
anyone wants to know if you can't find
it googling it I'll give you my email
it's ad k re David Kahn 1010 one zero
one zero which is my birthday sorbets
today's the tenth of a tenth ADK ten ten
at gmail.com ADK ten ten at gmail.com
and if you look in Amazon you'll find a
whole bunch of books including ones I
didn't even know that I wrote because
somebody just published when I books in
paperback without my knowledge even
really are you allowed to do that oh
this isn't that is that you yes did you
reach out to that that's a crazy thing
I've never even heard of all those I
have more stories to tell you afterwards
then but yeah well I think it's probably
par for the course of putting out what
you put out into the world yeah so uh
and which by the way if you ask me is a
small price to pay for the gift of sham
has given you of your and so I just want
to thank you with tears in my eyes
really of just the profound richness
you've brought to my life the
inspiration you've brought to my life
the you know so you everything you see
here you share in the merit of all of
this because the tour is that you share
aren't abstract theological they're
applicable they give me strength I'm
able to actually take refuge in your
teachings and really not in your
teachings your teachings give me the
tools to take refuge in Hashem and and
have real be Tejon in my heart and so I
edit you that with that tremendously so
for me you know I could see a thousand
movie stars and I'm not moved and I see
you and I get like like a sixteen year
old girl Beatles concert that's how I
feel so uh so you were always just don't
throw any of your underwear what III
will say two things one is that I hope
next time I come out here we'll have the
well the the grapes that you have out
there we'll have some have very quickly
turned into wine I'm not say I'm gonna
wait that long to come and that will
love be able to have a proper repast
over here and you could stay here first
about we're gonna have a retreat center
we're gonna have simmering and you could
always wear my home is almost completed
to have you as a guest in my home well
that would just be a little taste of get
will out for me and the other thing I
want to say is that I write in my first
language which is yeshiva SH and the
writing is special because of my wife
who has translated it into English and
turned it into something which is
beautiful and you know as much as we've
had five children together and at this
point four grandchildren together God
willing many many many more but we also
have around eleven or how many books
we've had together
and all the things that I have is due to
her skill as well so I don't want to
take all the credit but naomi has had a
great deal of credit and everything that
I've done I would say Rebbetzin Khan
thank you for all of that but you get
mad every time I say Rebbetzin she loves
it so and Naomi Khan is also a very
important player in the land of Israel
today with the organization of reg Aviv
perhaps we will have her on another
episode of Israel inspired so Rabbi Cahn
thank you so much my pleasure
this week on the high flyer show
Woodstock meets the Bible the first
purchase of the Jewish people in the
Land of Israel is celebrated as forty
five thousand people gathered in Hebron
this past Shabbat for parshat Chaya
sera the eighteen hundred years later
after this event took place
King Herod built the building that is
still there today and for there was a
giant building there the Torah keeps on
saying this is where it is you got to
know where it is it's a real