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Israel Inspired: Nikki Haley's UN Jerusalem Showdown & The Leader Israel is Waiting For
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Rabbis Ari Abramowitz & Jeremy Gimpel analyze the historic battle waging between the Nations over Jerusalem & reveal how and why the Trump Declaration is going to change the world forever.
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I like the message that Nikki sent
yesterday at the United Nations for all
of these nations that take our money and
then they vote against us that the
Security Council
well they vote against us potentially at
the Assembly
they take hundreds of millions of
dollars and even billions of dollars and
then they vote against us well we're
watching those votes let them vote
against us we'll save a lot we don't
care but this isn't like it used to be
where they could vote against you and
then you pay them hundreds of millions
of dollars and nobody knows what they're
doing so Nikki that was the right
message that you and I agreed to be sent
yesterday and I've had a lot of good
comment on it believe me your people are
tired of the United States the people
that live here are great citizens that
love this country they're tired of this
country being taken advantage of and
we're not going to be taken advantage of
any longer and now live from Jerusalem
you're listening to Israel inspired
radio here your hosts rabbis Aria bream
woods and Jeremy Gimpel
hello everybody and welcome to Israel
inspired on the language of network at
the Land of Israel calm this is Jeremy
compelling here with Aria brand watts
and we're broadcasting from the
mountains of Judea and they tell you
times are a-changing times are changing
it can be sensed in almost every aspect
of life in Israel every time I look at
Israel I'm like well it didn't used to
be that way well things are changing
here things are developing there things
are shifting it's as if the cosmos are
aligning and the Messianic era is at
hand that's what it feels like to me
things are moving forward faster and
faster and it seems as though the Israel
is getting it's almost lighter and
lighter sometimes you feel like a
certain heaviness on Israel the the war
war is hovering over Israel Iran's
nuclear what's gonna happen and now it's
a paradigm shift you know I'll tell you
you you just said something that sort of
struck me in an interesting ways that
you know things are getting lighter and
the Messianic era is at hand and for
some reason I go through in my head
different demographics they listen to
our show
and there's a lot of our listeners that
are shaking their head absolutely
but there's other people that are a
little bit more of the secular bent you
know or something about those words can
make them a little bit uncomfortable and
that's okay that's who we are that's who
we are it's fine I just want to address
those people if you okay you see no no
so what I'm gonna say is that I was just
thinking we are doing this full week
it's called the yah-hey Kalla with our
been a massive ottava group with
Katz and we're traveling through Israel
an entire sentence in a strange language
a week of your high college of law
because of boniva you have to translate
that right so our listeners by now know
about the series of words called been a
macho vltava that Katz we're
studying this learning with him with
this group of guys that are all seeking
to grow in our spiritual knowledge and
understanding our self-awareness our
service of Hashem so we all come
together and it's been going going
stronger and stronger and strong
were bonding and having these incredible
experiences and this week was a special
week where we every day we're doing a
new activity together we went up to the
north to the tombs of the righteous in
Swat enter of Shimon bar Yohai
who composed the the Kabbalah and the
Zohar and the great leaders and rabbis
of the past we would do that in the
north you went to have Ronan on Sunday I
wasn't able to go the whole group came
out here on Tuesday and and when they
came in I have to say it was like such
an exciting experience for me that they
came out I want to get into that in a
little bit with you because I know for
you it was like just as life-changing
and exciting for our most beloved best
friend brothers to come out here and to
experience and to see what were what
we're doing here but we were just today
this morning
sharing the highlights of that
experience with each other and one of
the guys name was Rafael he said that
the the story that I shared about the
Germans and that our listeners have
heard it already you know that the
Germans that I went to them in the
morning they were so excited to have
volunteer and to help and to do whatever
they can do and I said they're the men
to go to the right and the women to go
to the left and how strange and awkward
that is for a Jew to say that to Germans
in Judea and we all sort of laughed
about it together and he said that he
was thinking about that since Tuesday he
was it made such an impression on him
because he says what is laughter
laughter is really the element of a
surprise the unexpected that comes in
such an unimaginable way that laughter
is the only result when Sarah named her
son
Yitzhak why because the laughter that a
99 year old woman would have a child
that's so unimaginative and that's
really when you say we're in the
Messianic era it's a foot that's what I
see happening all around us right now
it's that you know just from a rational
secular sense the unexpectedness on a
macro global scale of the Jewish people
being in gathered from around the world
and coming back home in the Jewish
language to be
survived and Donald J Trump who reminds
me more of a modern Esau than anyone now
rising to the occasion and declaring
Jerusalem the capital of Israel just
unexpected after unexpected so when you
were saying that you know the met we're
in the Messianic era that's a way to
understand it on a rational secular
level yeah I mean you know you know that
and they're all of our listeners know
that we're people that are open up to
many different people from many
different backgrounds in almost every
spiritual leader nowadays whether they
be from a background of new age whether
they be from a background of Judaism
when they from a background of Muslims
or Christians everyone feels that we are
on the precipice on the edge of entering
into a new era of consciousness we're
about to enter into a new stage in human
history and we see this Asaph like
character who what is a sub a sub is all
about the quick fix just give me the
bowl of porridge and forget about the
past
Donald Trump wasn't a politician he was
like an instant made a sob literally
means a soui means s I was already born
with hair on his head he was like fast
food he was just done Donald Trump rose
to the presidency out of nowhere
immediately he's grabbing at women he's
making a lot of money he's got red hair
he is just the personification of the
Western world which Asaph spiritually
represents and now a sub as foretold is
rising up and declaring is Jerusalem as
our capital in the world is now
struggling with it the world doesn't
know what to do with it the world is
like they came together in the UN and
they tried to veto no they tried to
condemn just listen to the clip here the
result of the vote is as follows in
favor 128 against 9 abstentions 35 draft
resolution a /es - 10 / l 22 is adopted
so that's true it was 128 4 and 9
against but let's actually just give
credit before I give credit to where
credit is truly do which is Donald Trump
which is a little bit of a mayor couple
for me I wanted to give credit to the
other nations the voted against this you
know annulment of Jerusalem being
Israel's capital we have Guatemala
Honduras Marshall Islands Micronesia
Nauru I've always had a good feeling
about Nauru Palau Palau have always been
good with Israel Togo and the United
States and Israel most of the countries
Togo Paulo Nauru those are the countries
that voted against in this declaration
but I have to say that the United States
and President Trump I have never felt so
positive about a president in my
lifetime having such bold courageous
action to make these statements I in my
heart I'm trying to really just be open
to this and accept it maybe it's this
collective Jewish you know cynicism I
have that this is somehow not going to
be good for Israel that it will be used
against us maybe we'll get into that a
little bit later but let me just start
by saying hat tip to President Trump
that's leadership
he is paving a new way and he
independently is shifting global
consciousness that's what's happening
now because consciousness you know the
hidden sides of Judaism say that
consciousness is actually created
through words that our words create
consciousness our words have the powers
to shape our opinions to shape our
emotions our words create things giving
something a blessing what did you do
you've blessed something by giving it
words but yes those words have a
creative power to them and now by just
declaring the obvious truth by just
saying it Jerusalem is the capital of
Israel Jerusalem is the capital of the
Jewish people you're saying it and the
world is struggling with it and they're
trying to cope with this
oh the truth is being revealed but
that's the truth the truth is being
revealed let me tell you something else
exciting that I heard ambassador
Friedman the United States ambassador to
Israel has now sent a message to the
State Department saying they are no
longer allowed to say the words occupied
territories when referring to Israel
when referring to Judea and Samaria
they're not allowed to say occupied
territories for now more than a decade
whenever the United States referred to
Judea in Samaria they referred to them
as occupied territories now listen to
the words occupied territories just
those words have created a consciousness
they've already stated your opinion
you've already now said well this is
obviously not doesn't belong to the Jews
it's occupied territory and there are
these colonial realities on this
occupied territory well then now we're
colonialist now we're somewhere where it
were foreign to the Land of Israel but
once we start restoring order and truth
to the matter then there's nothing more
natural than a Jew living in Judea then
we're not these the foreign entity that
need to be expelled Colonials no we are
Jews living in Judea and the words
occupied territory all of the veils all
of the lies are slowly but surely being
pulled away but not only then for the
first time that I remember Netanyahu is
actually speaking in the name of God
I've never heard that before
I he I don't think he's the most
religious man I don't exactly know his
theological understand I know he's a
lover of Tanakh but so was ben-gurion I
know that he has a certain Jewish
neshama to him but he went to the
president of Guatemala and he said I
want God to bless you usually it's
always the presidents of the United
States that say god Bless America now it
always bugged me that
why can't Israel say god bless israel
god bless the nation well I think
Netanyahu does legitimately have that
side to him and that belief in his heart
it's not okay
no I know it's not spoken because he's a
pragmatist but he's changed about I
don't know that he's changing his
letters are changed okay I don't know
that his actions are changing the reason
he's a pragmatist he's a politician he's
a politician okay and the the president
Honduras is a religious man he's a
religious Christians quantum and I'm
sorry of Guatemala as these were his
motivations so it is a very rational
practical pragmatic approach for
Netanyahu to do that but the point is he
can do it because it's a real part of
him but I don't know that he's totally
change I just I don't know who he is at
all I'm saying his actions are changing
let me tell you it's fun to look at
Netanyahu when he is a little bit
Unchained when he knows that he has
Donald Trump has his back a little bit
more he's becoming more face he's
becoming more tzuf you know hutzpah he's
a little bit a little bit of the Jewish
foot soup is coming out and that's
exciting to see he was standing or
sitting across the table from the
president of the EU Eamon Sh'ma and the
president they using you know what what
Trump said I'm sorry we don't accept
this Jerusalem being your capital and
then Netanyahu looked at the president
of the EU in the eye and said just about
70 years ago here in Europe you put our
fathers and grandfathers into gas
chambers and I want you to know as the
Jews were walking to the gas chambers at
your hands they were dreaming about
Jerusalem and now here is the next stage
what I believe is the next veil to be
lifted off the eyes of the world I think
if you go to an average American Jew or
non-jew doesn't matter and you say if
you had to rate Israel's security how
safe people are in the Land of Israel on
a scale of one to ten is Israel a safe
country to visit I think you take the
average American whatever background
they are I think they'd probably get
below a five I think they get below five
Israel's Middle East the Hamas the wars
the terror that is that all the
scattered jihad but because the media is
so full of lies distortions of
falsehoods misinformation when you look
at Israel from an objective perspective
it is literally the safest place on
earth the point is is that it's the
safest place you go to downtown
Chicago la there's violence there's rape
there's killers there's kid now every
Walmart I walk into there's a whole wall
with missing missing missing faces
missing faces I'm like what the heck is
going on here in the United States of
America everyone's missing here in
Israel yeah there are some violent acts
that are being done but know that the
roads in Israel are far more dangerous
than any sort of terror attacks or any
sort of war far more meaning you're just
driving in the streets in Israel and the
streets in Israel are getting even safer
the point is is that the entire
perspective that people have on Israel
is wrong the average person in the world
didn't think that is Jerusalem was our
capital and they think that Israel is a
scary place to live every single tourist
that I've ever met that has come to
Israel says as soon as they walk off the
plane they feel like they're the safest
place in the world and the truth is they
are Israel is the safest place in the
world we happen to be here in our
headquarters in the most contested real
estate in the world and the deepest
settlement in south-eastern Gush Etzion
in the Judean mountains but let me tell
you we are in the safest place in the
world and once the world starts to
realize that not only is Israel the
safest place in the world Israel is also
the strongest country in this region
that's a paradigm shift that people
haven't fully absorbed yet because we're
so used to winning miraculous Wars we're
used to being the underdog winning the
war in 1948 winning the war in 1967 when
the enemies had three times as many
soldiers and four times as many planes
and five times as many tanks and we
still won the war what a Hanukkah
miracle the next war Israel is already
now the most powerful force in the
Middle East the most trained military in
the Middle East the most sophisticated
technology in the Middle East we would
crush any army on almost any radius
around us including any army from Europe
we have become the most powerful force
in the world the world doesn't recognize
it yet because Israel hasn't yet flexed
our muscles but the world is very soon
going to see that
he who blesses Israel will be blessed
and he who curses Israel will be cursed
that's a promise in the Torah that has
lasted throughout all times in all days
and it's going to become a apparent very
clear very soon that's right you could
really look at the world right now and
you could either believe in the puppets
or believe in the one who is pulling the
strings and for those people who believe
in the puppets themselves well they look
at things too quantitatively and they
look at the hundred and twenty eight
that are voting against Jerusalem being
Israel's capital they're looking at all
of these Arab countries with all of this
oil money and if you believe in the
puppets well then that would be the more
rational route to take but those people
are literally digging their own graves
and making their own beds because when
you believe in the puppets it's survival
of the fittest
it's the strongest that is what
determines what is just by who is the
strongest and that's not true because
you know one of the things that pains me
a little bit about America's declaration
that Jerusalem is Israel's capital is
exactly what this what this Arab
spokesman just said listen to this the
truth is I actually agree with him it
really should have been not Trump I mean
great for Trump good man good leadership
but it should have been Prime Minister
Netanyahu it should have been the
Knesset it should have been the Israeli
leadership that said if you want to have
an embassy here in our country that
means that we're friends that we have
diplomatic relations and that we respect
each other and there's a mutual respect
so you have an embassy here and if you
refuse to put your embassy in Jerusalem
what you are now declaring that we are
not friends with a mutually respectful
relationship take your embassy out
that's what a good strong
self-respecting country would do and so
it pains me a little bit that it took
America to do this and not Israel to do
it but it's okay we're part of a a
process of evolution and maturation and
growing into ourselves and you can take
quantum leaps when we're not necessarily
right
yeah but I'll tell you go ahead you all
just want to say that Netanyahu has a
very specific strategy in almost every
issue that he has in the Land of Israel
and it's called the strategy of the
status quo status quo but it's a
strategy that he has if people like
criticize Matteo that he's so status quo
he doesn't change the status quo he
specifically keeps the status quo
because that's his ideology why is it
his ideology there's a real deep root to
it when we keep the laws of shmita we
keep the laws of eret cistrome if the
fruits were grown in the land the ezra
conquered and lived in in the times of
ezra so not my time Rita's radical the
sabbatical meaning that the the the the
laws of shmita are kept in the Land of
Israel right now we're the where the
line lies fallow right and so in the
times of Joshua it was conquered by the
sword and the time of Ezra
it was just brought back we settled in
the land we had the the Cyrus
declaration and of course you all know
when I took la vie for his Bar Mitzvah
trip to the inauguration of Donald Trump
we had a sign with us that said Trump
equals Cyrus because already then la vie
and I believed that he had the potential
and the opportunity to do the historic
things that he's doing now but what
happened when Ezra came back it wasn't
with the sword it was just settling the
land and living in the land and that's
settling in that living in some ways the
akiza the grasp of the land is stronger
there because it's just natural
so Netanyahu strategy is very much
rooted in that let's just keep things
stable the longer the Jews are living in
the land of Israel eventually Jerusalem
will become our capital because our
Knesset is there and our Supreme Court
is there and the great synagogue is
there and the temple I mean I'll think
of Unitarians like the tester he feels
that time is on our side on our side in
the longer that we can just keep life
going in Israel Israel is getting
stronger and she can good for him and
the reason I like him is because I
really do believe in my heart the
regardless of what this person or that
person may say about Netanyahu being
corrupt I don't think he's corrupt well
I think here I am
now and you know we just saw the Gil
Hoffman put out a show and we love Gil
Hoffman but Here I am as the founder of
the Land of Israel Network in the host
of Israel inspired I'm coming out
against Gil Hoffman what are the
corruption cases I'm like I'm not a
Netanyahu fan I've never voted Likud in
my whole life but what are the
corruption allegations around Bibi you
were just saying this to me right now
what it's cigars and red that he took
cigars and recycling bottles yeah I mean
are we are we joke there's also youth
rally oh but look at look at Putin okay
he's twenty billion dollars he's worked
I don't I don't know but I mean I'm
comparing what I'm saying is that when
you're in such a position of massive
decisions huge leadership where you have
to decide about the exact existential
threats against the State of Israel
there better be real corruption charges
in order to be pulling him out of
meetings driving him nuts tormenting him
and end up allowing him to actually be
take the leadership role that he has to
do when to be Prime Minister of the
country when I get for those from people
and they ask me what's going on with
Netanyahu and I say well the allegations
against him are about his wife recycling
bottles to like the president's wife is
recycling bottles and they're calling
that corrupt it's such a mind bend it's
such truly fake news because the
left-wing media in Israel is very
similar to the left-wing media in the
United States I can't watch any media
out of America anymore I used to have
comedians that I really liked and I
enjoyed watching their news analysis I
can't hear anything out of them anymore
because their hatred for Donald Trump is
so much it's so skewed and it's so like
overwhelming I just can't listen to it
anymore so to the media in Israel is
attacking Netanyahu for the most absurd
ridiculous corruption cases let's a
technique ten yell for what Nintendo
needs to be attacked for but not for
this nonsense okay so what I was saying
is that regardless of this accusation
against him or that one I do think that
he has been a leader that really truly
wants the best for this country
maybe he slips up here maybe there are a
little few little corruption issues that
he has on a small level that just can
happen to any
at any point but the point that I'm
trying to make Jeremy is that we want a
leader that is moving forward boldly
with faith that isn't just trying to
keep the status quo but is doing what is
right and what is just and what is true
all of the other leaders in America they
were doing status quo Obama to Bush to
Clinton they all said yes there's about
the embassy but they just kept the
status quo why make waves right Trump is
making waves
I wanted a leader here in Israel that
isn't afraid to make waves when the
waves are the right waves to make when
it's about truth and when it's about
justice so that's what I'm saying that
it would be nice for me if if as this
you know this Arab spokesman said you
know he's being more pros or than the
Israelis themselves so that's that's the
first point I want to make but here's
the point and as long as we're getting
lost on little tangents here there
you're talking about you can't listen to
any media in America because it's so
overwhelmingly anti Trump did you hear
the CNN news clip no listen to the CNN
news clip remember yesterday how United
States ambassador to the United Nations
nikki Haley said the US would be taking
names of countries that supported a
resolution critical of the Trump
administration's decision to recognize
Jerusalem as Israel's capital well let's
hope Haley brought a lot of pens and
paper because 128 countries voted
against the United States today many of
them US allies only nine countries voted
with the u.s. there were 35 abstentions
among the 128 countries that voted to
condemn the us on this issue were some
countries with some rather questionable
records of their own take Venezuela's
representative today the world is not
full sail the world is not for sale and
your threats imperil global peace the
u.s. imperils global peace as the
representative of Venezuela a country in
a humanitarian disaster with violence in
the streets an economy and colleague
complete collapse citizens malnourished
dying children being turned away from
hospitals starving families joining
street gangs to scrounge for food on
what moral platform does the government
of Venezuela stand today now that we
have done of course the u.s. also got an
earful today from Syria we're in the
seventh year
the brutal Syrian civil war that has
killed half a million people and
displaced millions Syrian President
Bashar al-assad has used chemical
weapons against his own citizens
including children also feeling a bit
preachy to get today Yemen which helped
draft the resolution condemning the u.s.
seemingly more focused at least during
the speech on where the u.s. puts its
embassy in Israel than on the 7 million
Yemenis on the brink of starvation in
that country Civil War given the
circumstances that our region is
experiencing and which constitute a
threat to international peace and
security
Yemen concerned with stability in the
region interesting there are plenty of
policies and actions that are perfectly
valid to criticize about the United
States and about Israel and certainly
whether this move will help the peace
process in any way seems one of them but
listening to these countries including
North Korea and Myanmar and Turkey and
China lecturing the United States in any
way about human rights and peace might
seem a bit much but here is a bit of
context that you might not know
according to UN watch which monitors
United Nations the United Nations
General Assembly from 2012 through 2015
has adopted 97 resolutions specifically
criticizing an individual country and of
those ninety seven eighty three of them
have focused on Israel that is eighty
six percent now certainly Israel is not
above criticism but considering the
genocide of the row hanga people in
Myanmar the lack of basic human rights
in North Korea the children starving in
the streets of Venezuela the citizens of
Syria targeted for murder by their own
leader using the most grotesque and
painful of weapons you have to ask is
Israel truly deserving of 86 percent of
the world's condemnation or possibly is
something else afoot at the United
Nations something that allows the
representative of the Assad government
to lecture the United States for moving
its embassy and so why was this rare CNN
clip there was soaked of fresh air
because I think that these media
organizations are becoming increasingly
aware that they are in this Hollywood
bubble and that they're in this liberal
vacuum and that they're disconnected
with the nation as a whole and America
as a whole in the Bible Belt in the
country in general is not in in this
confused morally bankrupt blindness of
being anti Jerusalem and anti-israel I
don't think it's the Bible Belt I think
it's like just not California and new
you right that's what I mean the the
country as all I would even say the
majority of the country absolutely that
there's a different movement going on
and that's why I think also here in
Israel
you know the we're here in right next to
my ammos almost were the Prophet almost
had as his prophecies and one of my
favorites that I really feel like is
talking about our days he says he now
yamim by eeem days are coming where
there will be a hunger in the land and
the hunger will not be for bread and the
thirst will not be for water but to hear
the words of Hashem and that is
something that I see throughout this
country and throughout the world
we just went last night Jeremy to hear
Rabbi Moshe Weinberger a rabbi that's
sort of here on a little vacation from
his community in America the one at some
time off and he was giving a speech
somewhere in Jerusalem there are people
literally not not ultra-orthodox the
Achieva students people like us with
jobs that are have families and they
were all flocking to hear this rabbi
speak hanging on to the bars of the
windows hanging from our rafters hey
rain from the hanging from the rafters
and falling off the windows just to try
to hear the words of Russian to try to
hear wisdom and truth and I think that
that is an underlying thing while we may
have a leader like Bibi who has a good
heart but is sort of the more the
pragmatic type we there is a movement
going on in the world for a thirst for
something greater and something deeper
and something more powerful so I'll tell
you what what I think the secret of all
leadership can be found in the Torah
portion of this week and obviously this
week is really connected to last week
and the week before that and it's really
all about leadership because here we
have the two leaders of Israel that
really are figuring it out and it takes
centuries and generations to actually
figure out who is to lead the Jewish
people Jacob has children and
Joseph who seems to be this incredible
leader maybe he will be mushiya and
there's Yehuda Bannu Hooda has this
inborn incredible leadership ability
maybe Messiah he'll come from them and
they're living it out through this whole
reality in this all the drama that
unfolds and at one point there's like a
shift in the whole story in last week's
Torah portion where you'd assess listen
I'm out I will switch Ben Yemen take Ben
Yemen bring him back to my father
why keen F shocked she Rob enough show
their souls are intertwined and my
father he simply won't be able to live
if Ben Yemen is kept down here and at
that point I mean the whole story turns
around right there and this I'm gonna
say in the name of my beloved wife to
he'll again pal and also in the name of
rabbi foreman from Aleph beta and for
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that David Forman rabbi Forman points
out that there's only one other time in
Tanakh where it says the language of
enough jokes you rob enough show only
one other time and that's in the story
of David in Yonatan defeating Ionut on
it says that their souls were
intertwined with each other and how
beautiful is that because where is
Yonatan come from
Yonatan comes from the tribe of benjamin
david from the tribe of Yehuda and what
does Yonatan give David he gives him his
tonot the Katonah the the the Royal garb
but the Royal garb that was given to
Yosef at the beginning is now being
handed over to David a melon at that
time and now what happened there well
just you throw out a lot of names there
once you double back and make that a
little bit more clear Jonathan was the
son of Saul king of Israel he was
supposed to be taking over the mantle of
leadership
David was a direct threat to that I mean
look at just the history of of
monarchies you know look it's always
been that way that the threat is being
killed is being
assassinate assassination I can't think
of any story where there was a voluntary
surrender of the leadership from the son
of a king to someone else altogether you
see not only voluntary but but loving
loving and why does it say Vinay shoke
sure Abhinav show in DeFede in unit on
David and Jonathan it's to bring us all
the way back to the story that we're
living through right now with Judah and
Yosef and Yaakov what happened right
there
Yehuda the real leader the one who was
ultimately gonna bring mushiya what was
he thinking about he could have said you
know what good Ben Yemen's out now we're
done with Rachel's children I'm gonna be
the king I got this all taken care of if
he was thinking about himself he could
have taken care of business right then
and there but instead who does he think
about he's thinking about Yaakov he's
thinking about his father and so and if
we bring that into modern-day leadership
of what Israel really needs so on one
hand we can quote Rabbi Jonathan Sacks
this is a quote that Ari likes to quote
a lot that you know it's not thinking
less of your humility is not thinking
less of yourself but thinking of
yourself less so it's not just that that
Yuda wasn't thinking about himself
because what he did is just unbelievable
is gonna give his life to stay in prison
to let his brother go
he wasn't not only thinking about
himself he was thinking about his father
and now what is the ultimate goal of
Messiah really it's not just to think
about a me sir L because I believe
Netanyahu has a me Sarah Elle's
best interests in mind and he's making
every pragmatic move that he can make
with Israel's best interest in mind but
the leader of Israel doesn't need to
have the Jewish people in mind he needs
to have our Father in Heaven in mind
that's the secret here if a leader were
to think what it would ham want me to do
what will make God's name great what
will make God's presence restored to
Israel that's not pragmatic anymore now
you're gonna start making declarations
before Trump makes declarations why cuz
you're not thinking about just the
Jewish people but you're thinking about
our Father and that really will be the
shift that mashach is all about when we
have leadership that's hungry for it
right now you know if you go out and you
get a slice of pizza and then you get
some french fries and you come home to
dinner and your wife has made a
marvelous meal for you but you're not
really hungry for it because you just
you were you're full so so - right now
the Jewish people we don't yet have the
hunger for the bay timing - we don't
have a hunger for the temple right now
we're filled with our with our jobs and
with our houses and with our families
and we're like Samantha McCain and we're
happy with our lot but what's happening
now is a yearning is growing in the
hearts of the Jews a hunger is growing
in the land not a hunger for for bread
but we're having a hunger now for
something deeper for something more
meaningful and the leader that's able to
really channel this hunger that's
growing within the Jewish people that's
growing within the whole world he's
gonna channel down something that hasn't
been seen before and he who blesses
Israel will be blessed and he who curses
Israel will be cursed that's right
and you know speaking of blessing of
Israel we've added a blessing to our
prayers right every single day we're
praying to Hashem to end this drought
right we were just in the Torah were
reading about this drought that was
plaguing Egypt and how Joseph solved
that well he was he was in Egypt at the
time and droughts are not were not as
prevalent than in Egypt as they are in
Israel Egypt was not as as susceptible
to a drought why because it had the Nile
something that they worshipped as their
God because they could look at the Nile
which overflowed on relative exact
frequency and they said well that's our
God but in Israel we're in a situation
right now on a rain level we it's how
many years has it been since it's been a
drought like this a lot many years we
haven't had a drought and on our farm we
I've never felt the lack of rain so
powerfully so powerful trees and our
little values to be so disconnected from
the greater Clow that I just didn't like
rain why because I mean we go
when I walk outside I don't like getting
wet so that was me Andrade I was totally
not connected to the land needing the
rain now that this winter has been quite
from that perspective it's been a very
pleasant winter last winter at this time
it was freezing whipping winds it wasn't
raining so much but it was a very wintry
winter this has been you know warm and
pleasant but it's been painful on an on
a level because we're not getting the
rain that we need and this is another
sign that we really need to pour out our
hearts time and say please please we
need your abundance so we need your rain
we need your blessing on the land
because we're suffering here the land is
suffering the people are suffering and
that's something that we really need to
keep in mind as we're fasting today
that's part of the reason I think
today's show has been a little bit all
over the place because we're not as
sharp as we could otherwise be just from
the very fact that we're fasting I'm not
you're not a great faster are you yeah
but you know something marvelous
happened to me today where I got up
early in the morning in order to get a
couple of glasses of water beforehand
and as I was walking out of my room
tequila is like Jeremy Jeremy it's I'm
gonna shock are you're already five
minutes late I'm sorry you can't have
any water and I'm like what why would
you tell me that day Gila it's dark
outside I could have easily had water
and no one had to know now you've said
it out loud you say no no you mean you
wouldn't I didn't have to know that we
didn't know exactly what i before am
dark outside it's like in the middle of
the night as far as I'm concerned I can
have water and then she's like brother
she just look it's 504 a.m. and just set
your alarm for for 58 like I didn't set
an alarm
I just was doing what I was doing I
don't know what to say so I went
downstairs and I'm like that how you are
with Shabbat let me just tell you what
happened this is a really marvelous
story so uh so then I woke up why did I
wake up because no I'm of course in my
house is a diaper factory I am the I
probably provide more jobs to Israeli
factories making diapers I mean it's
like it's it's a non-stop diaper factory
in my house right now so no I'm at four
or five o'clock in the morning he wakes
up cocky Abba cocky I'm like great cocky
that's what I got to deal with now at
five o'clock in the morning for that kid
no I'm so here's what I get I get out of
bed and I'm like okay cool
anyway I'm gonna go get a glass of water
that's what happened I woke up because
I've know him and then Tina is like
don't drink anything you got it the
clock and I'm like okay you know why did
you do that and I'm like you know what
come on I mean they did in the olden
days they didn't even have watches it's
dark outside I'm gonna get some water
why I'll be able to learn more Torah
today I'll be more productive today I
had twenty reasons why I was gonna get a
glass of water in order to make my day
better for God's sake so I go downstairs
I pick up the diaper I open up the
cabinet I actually grabbed a glass out
of the thing and then it at one point I
I have a flashback to a Torah that
rubbish Lowell was teaching us right
outside that Sadiq we went to visit in
your shall I'm one night in the tour
there was that if the yetzer Hara
attacks you it it's a nedra zone it's a
net red zone I had that same flashback
today and so let me tell you so I was
like when I when the explain what a
truck showed me when the evil
inclination attacks you all of a sudden
do you want to do a sin so you'd think
like oh I'm so embarrassed why I'm all
is that I'm having these terrible things
shameful Scheckter taught that actually
in that place it's an ED root zone this
is a time of God's will in your life
that's favor
God's favor you have a chance to really
capitalize how if you at that point you
say yetzer Hara evil inclination I don't
want you in my life there's a holiness
that can be brought into your heart deep
into your heart that you can't get any
other way and God is like offering you
an opportunity and so with my hand on my
glass as I have all of the
rationalizations of oh why they're so
hollow equai there's a dark outside I'll
have a big oh wow the flashback came D
and I'm like I don't want you yetzer
Hara and I walked upstairs and I didn't
drink the water to Gila until the very
end of the day until I told her this
story was sure that I had the water cuz
she knows me better than I know myself
she knew that I was I got up a little
bit too joyfully to go change norms
diaper he's like he's gonna go get water
anyway okay well Jeremy's on his own
journey I will talk to him about it but
she already knew what was already in my
heart and she didn't realize the
flashback would come the bottom line of
the story is I didn't have the water and
I've never had such an easy fast in my
whole life
I'm a terrible faster usually by about
one o'clock
in the afternoon I need to take a nap I
need to lie down my head hurts I feel
weak there's something supernatural
that's happening to this fast that the
fast is almost over and I feel
spectacular and I think it's on that
point that I want to talk but this is my
last thought for the day my last thought
for the day and this has been a theme
throughout our entire lives together and
all of our friends that have joined us
on this marvelous journey from way back
waving before Tuesday from the light
unto the nations that are roots chevre
re and I have had one word that has
always been sort of this overarching
principle this kind of word that's
followed us over and over and over again
throughout our lives and it's the word
unreasonable folks these days these days
are days in which the calling is to be
unreasonable to go out of the box to
think differently we learned a beautiful
Torah on heaven this week and it was
says here on the beginning of this
parsha it says even now it's not defined
bayonetta Jacob is saying to Joseph if I
find favor in your eyes please I want to
be buried in the land of Israel and the
question that arises is oh I mean
Jacob is Joseph's father why does it
need to ask in such a polite way if I
find favor in your eyes please bring me
to land of Israel he could yeah it's
like it's his final request before he
dies you don't have to be so yeah of
course Yosef will do that and so Rep
slow-mo taught in the name of the issue
Pitzer that really what Yaakov was
giving over to Yosef and to the Jewish
people into the world at that point was
Hine and what does the word phen-fen is
usually translated in english as beauty
or favor or charm or grace but really
those are just English words that are
being put on to the word fen-phen means
according to the ish bits that thing
that is beyond that thing that is beyond
the rational that unreasonable reality
that yes for that that's why I'm doing
it why because it's that thing that I
can't even articulate it's ineffable
it's the thing that connects so deeply
to my soul that if you don't have that
thing in your life then you don't know
what it is to be alive and if you come
to the Land of Israel and you don't find
the pain in the Land of Israel then made
you'll see Israel for its terror and its
violence and it's the traffic jams and
it's nonsense and if you can't find a
hand in Israel you'll never see what
Hashem has in store for you in this
place and in this week's Torah portion
we're given over the greatest secret
that everyone needs to find that kind
that unreasonable place in them that
they're willing to do what's beyond the
rational what's beyond their comfort
zone to be unreasonable and to really
make it a work of art right and I think
what you're saying is very true there's
another dimension that I think it was
rabbi Forman that that sort of brought
this out and brought it to my attention
more that he was making a quite a huge
request from Joseph why because think
about it when Joseph was sold into
slavery he didn't know the backstory of
what happened he didn't really know that
his father wasn't in on it he didn't
know what was happening on that whole
side of things so he goes to Egypt and
the most father-like figure that he ever
had was Pharaoh who took him in and made
him second only to himself and gave him
all of this power and all of these
blessings and all of this privilege and
all of this strength and there was never
and then when when Jacob and the
brothers came to Egypt they went to
Goshen but there was never really a
conflict of interest between Jacob and
Pharaoh but now Jacob realized there's a
conflict of interest here he's asking
Joseph who is the paradigm of Egypt he's
supposed to be you know like Jews always
have this question in their mind about
dual loyalty who are they loyal to well
the reason Joseph's brothers didn't
recognize them as he looked so Egyptian
he had the Egyptian garb in the Egyptian
makeup and the Egyptian everything and
now Jacob is saying me and your Egyptian
father there's a conflict of interest
here because it would not look good for
Egypt to have a massive state funeral of
the father of one of the greatest
Egyptian leaders in Canaan outside of
Egypt and I think that's why one of the
kindnesses that he did was to ask Joseph
to swear to him why do you f just he
doesn't trust Joseph well I think one of
the reasons is
because it's Joseph can now go to
Pharaoh and say listen I made a vow to
my father this is something that I can't
violate as opposed to if he didn't have
to swear then this is Joseph's own
decision but ultimately I don't think it
was a no-brainer for Joseph maybe it
took courage and strength but he knew
what the right thing to do was then no
matter how long he's in Egypt he's a Jew
and he's the son of Jacob and that's
what I think a big calling of our
generation is we've been in Egypt for a
long time
we've been in the Exile for a long time
a lot of Americans start feeling very
very very very American and they may
forget for a moment that they are this
children of Jacob that we are Jews first
and foremost before anything else and
when it's time to be called back it's
time to come home and this is the time
this is the time to come home right the
first conquest of the Jews when they
entered into Israel was of the city of
Heshbon right husband means like in
modern Hebrew it's like calculations all
of the factors and the thinking and the
calculations we have to conquer that and
say no that's not what we're considering
now we are simply going to do what's
right it doesn't matter Pharaoh is the
most powerful man in the world we're
going to be true to our inner selves and
who we are and that's why I want to
introduce a new segment that I want to
try on today's program I want to try
this segment and I want to hear from all
of you whether you like it on the way up
to spot I was looking around this bus of
these guys who were part of this group
that we were just talking about earlier
in the show and each one of them is so
spectacular in in his own way not only
these guys but so many people here in
Israel from all around the world they've
come and you know a lot of tour groups
come and they want to go to this tour
site in that tour site but after one or
two trips they love Israel so much but
the tour sites aren't calling them it's
the relationships and I want to share
the people I want to give our listeners
out there an opportunity for
relationships to really know who the
people here are so one of the guys in
our program his name is
cranny such a wonderful incredible guy I
sat down with him and I interviewed him
and I want to let all of you here who is
dove cram and next week you'll hear
about another Jew here in Israel and
we'll attach it here to the end of our
shows and you tell us what you think so
here is the segment better know a Jew
Shalom from Judea so here we are in the
bus on the way up toots fought with the
been a macho Vltava kabura for our
listeners out there that may have
sounded like a big chunk of words would
you don't know what it is but it's a
group of guys that are truly seeking to
connect with Hashem and are connecting
with each other in the process of that
journey under the guidance of our rebbe
reb Katz and Jeremy and I have
spoken about it a whole bunch of times
on the program
and I thought all the way up why not it
do a little segment called better no AHA
there right better better know like
kabura
is I can how would you define a sub or
AHA borås you know a group of guys
coming together to learn but the root
word of is ha they're a friend which
also comes from
Tibor which means to connect so I'm I
decide I would start with one of my
dearest most beloved friends which is
strange for me to say because I feel
like it's been I haven't known you all
that long but the contrast between the
closeness with which I feel towards you
and so many guys in the in the in our
group everyone in the group really is
it's it's really a phenomenon in my life
and I feel like in many others that you
know true friendship I don't know is
always a consequence of time but of a
certain qualitative connection so we
have with us douve cram someone with
more than his share of pain of of grace
a dear friend and and I thought we just
better get to know him so dope welcome
to the program thanks Ari thanks for
having me on
of course so tell me a little bit about
your life journey the things that stand
out to you the most in your mind how did
you end up in a fraught
so we can we can do the short version or
the longer version ah I'll let you
decide this is our first segment we'll
hear back from the listeners if it was
too short or too long you you decide I
want cheetah so I'll just give a very
quick explanation of my background and I
was raised and lived most of my life in
in brookline masters it's an outside of
Boston and I was raised born into an
Orthodox family my grandfather loved us
all my mother's father was a big
Orthodox rabbi made his had a very big
impact on the world of Orthodox Modern
Orthodox Jewry in America so I was
raised in a firm household in Brookline
grew up dava new at the Boston rebus had
payout down to my shoulder until about
the age of nine really you had payout
down to your shoulder let me just open a
quick parenthesis here I should have
said this at the beginning the cram
family is a powerhouse of pillars of
this of our group because your brother
Toby is also learning with us as well
and and he's a force of nature himself
and I remember when we were just in the
Ukraine and Toby came up and said
something to me which really rocked my
world shook me I've been reflected back
on numerous times since then and I went
onto the bus and I asked you a question
I said what who was your father who were
your parents what made you who you are
because you know there's a lot of young
young parents listening to this program
it may take notes about what my parents
were very my mother my parents are very
special people my father unfortunately
passed away about two and a half years
ago and I'll come back to that a little
bit later on explaining Who I am because
that's really a lot I'm living in Israel
now really in the salute of my father
level Sean among other things but that
was the primary force behind it but to
better get to know me and and you'll get
to know Toby a little bit through some
of what I described but well let Toby
have his own interview and explain who
he is
Toby and I are very close and we're also
close both of us are also close with our
little sister Tamar who also lives in
our neighborhood in Efrat now
but we're all very very different very
unique in individual personalities even
though we're all from the same parent so
we had this amazing upbringing and my
father's parents you said you were you
were none you'd pay his down to your
shoulders I and ya know that and I think
a lot of that came from influences from
my older cousins at I'm I'm at the older
end of my first cousin unit but and I
have one male older cousin older than me
and he grew up most of his life here in
Israel and hornoff and always had peyote
and so there was that influence in my
life which I think definitely acted as
an inspiration for me to grow my payout
and then also though it was your
decision
oh yeah the fur listeners out there
payout or one we call them ear locks
side yeah side locks side locks there
you know the curly hair locks that come
down from the the ear because in the
tour it says you shall not cut the five
points of your face right right there
right that's that's the Jewish law right
but so we we don't cut and and because
we don't cut our hair there and the
idolaters of the time did correct so we
go out of our way and say if that's
where they cut hair we're never getting
rid of differentiating so I had mine
kind of tucked behind my ears they
weren't out flying in the wind but when
I went away to sleepaway camp for the
first time I remember the first time I
jumped into the lake my payout came out
from behind my ears and all the boys
laughed I'm in and so my pale were cut
off soon thereafter but but we all still
have our payout whether they're visible
or not everybody in terms of the length
anyway so I lived my life and in a
Modern Orthodox were pretty typical
Modern Orthodox style for our listeners
out there some of them don't know the
nuanced a distinction between Modern
Orthodox ibattz we kept the laws of
Shabbat we kept the laws of of kosher of
kashrut in inside our home and outside
of our home we didn't eat meat meat and
milk together we made sure everything
that was packaged had a proper Jewish
kosher certification on it
and that's the life that we lead and
that's pretty much the pillars of modern
orthodoxy what would you say
differentiates Modern Orthodoxy from
conventional orthodoxy we interesting so
I'll use this opportunity to tell you
that I actually think one of the worst
things that have happened in Judaism
internally is that we started creating
these sub categories and definitions for
ourselves and as a as a young adult I
mean my early 20s it bothered me so much
to the point where when people would ask
me what I am meaning they wanted me to
put yourself in a box right they wanted
me to say that I was Modern Orthodox or
maybe conservative or a reformer car
radio or tea light I mean there's so
many different different terms that have
come out of this need to kind of define
ourselves in these sub categories that I
used to say well I'm a Jew and people
have a hard time accepting that as an
answer because they're looking for
something more than that
so for a long time I my wife and I
actually created our own sect of Judaism
so that we'd have our own box to put
ourselves in and we call ourselves
tradition ox and there's a little more
you need to know about about how that
came to be but it basically came from
the fact like starting when I was in
middle school age I I started to rebel
I had a hard time with Authority
certainly as a kid and I didn't like the
being told what to do and how to do it
so though you're rebelling against your
parental authority I really just an
observance so but who was for in order
to really some coercion
whereas I came home but there was
expectations that surrounded me in my
life from my parents from my community
from my extended family certainly from
the school and modern orthodoxy is kind
of a closed community and there are
certain expectations that are placed on
everybody inside that community children
included
and it was not an easy thing for me to
do I was living a lot of my life because
that's what was expected of me like I
was expected to to to pray you know
three times a day or at the very least
in the morning as expected to keep the
laws of Shabbat expected to eat only
kosher food you know there was a lot
etcetera etc there were a lot of these
expectations placed on me and I'm a very
independent person and it's definitely
stubborn a little very much type-a in
that in that respect and that was very
hard for me and so I started to rebuild
quietly I I have the utmost respect for
the elders or rabbis certainly my
parents that I started to rebelled but
in quiet so like with my friends I'd
quietly I wasn't I was the internal
rebellion it was an important thing for
you which by the way in my journey
through life I've seen that this is a
very Jewish phenomenon meaning that
Abraham was Abraham rebelled against his
father's idols and we as Jews of our
program to be Abrahamic so we rebel
against our parents idols even if their
idols are true we still need to reject
them in order to reconnect and I think
that one thing that we can try to do
better that I'm certainly doing now in
my life and trying to do better for my
children in their lives is make the
connection more personal instead of it
just being something that you're told
this is the way to do it and make it
very black and white that you're either
in or you're out which you did at the
end of the day you either are in or
you're out but is it true why is that I
think that it is in the sense that like
either you're observing things so the
letter of the Jewish law or you're not
in that sense I don't know that that
that's all that defines a person and I
don't think that that it is and and
actually one of the one of the ways that
I convinced myself that moving away from
the observance was something that was
okay for me is because I I came to the
conclusion this is already we've jumped
now to the point where I'm like in my
college age and a little bit afterwards
where I had really decided that the only
thing that God really cared about and we
were really measured on is our morals
and being a good moral person and that
all of these other things that surround
sort of legal trappings it they were at
first I thought they were less
significant and then I got to the point
where I thought they were completely
insignificant and and I really believed
in my in my early 20s that I was just
wired differently than the rest of my
family because the rest of my family
stayed on this Modern Orthodox Orthodox
path really through their whole lives
and I thought well I must be lacking the
thing that allows me to connect in that
way and and I was actually okay with
that
because I felt such a strong my Jewish
identity never wavered I was always I
always felt very connected to that but
my connection to the religious to the
observance had had definitely wanes the
point where I wasn't observant anymore I
wasn't keeping the laws of Shabbat or
the laws of kashrut and you don't mind
if I get a little personal here right
you said no holds barred so I don't when
we were discussing before in in the
Ukraine you said something which I found
shocking shocking I couldn't believe
because you are such a mensch for our
listeners out there I don't know what I
mentioned just go to google and type in
m en t CH and you'll know what a mensch
is but it just good values good and you
were describing on this journey you said
you started off rebelling internally but
when you already started you finished
high school you went to Israel for the
year which is also part of the sort of
path that has been laid out for the
quote/unquote Modern Orthodox you really
weren't an all-out rebellion at that
point and you said you had rabbis come
into your room
sure and you would just I would curse
them out yeah try to wake me up to go to
go pray in the morning your rabbis oh
yeah so where did that come from because
I was a very intense I was a very angry
person back then what was that anger
from I think that you know I bottled up
a lot of my frustrations with the
expectations placed on me because I I
think I did it
out of respect for the people around I
didn't want to hurt anybody by rejecting
their world which is what what
ultimately I felt I would have been
doing had they known how I was living my
life
how I really felt so you thought perhaps
that by having your rebellion be a
merely an internal one that you were
being untrue to yourself and you are
resenting others because of that
internal dissonance I don't live with
regret I really don't I don't think
there's anything productive that can
come out of that and I don't know I'm
not saying now no no I'm saying that
then what kind of degree and so I think
that had I spoken to people more openly
about what I was thinking about what I
was going through I maybe could have
could have worked through things in a
different way instead you know anytime
you bottle things up there's this
pent-up energy and it comes out
unpleasantly and it can come out in
other different ways usually not so not
so great one of the many transitions
that I that I went through starting in
my year in Israel and I went to Israel
not really to come and learn even though
that is what ended up happening I came
because I ended up enrolled in weiu
YouTube University to go there after my
studies in Israel and if you went to
study in Israel you got a year's worth
of credits and universities so for me it
seemed like wow here's a chance to just
go it and have a great time in Israel
two birds with one stone yeah and it had
really had when I when I left to go
there and for the first six months or so
it had nothing to do with the learning
for me it was really all just about
having a good time and have a good
experience which I definitely had but
something you know changed about six
months in where I started to allow
myself to connect and allow myself to to
become observant again and start to
learn and start to pray again and and I
certainly was eating kosher a lot of
that was because of how easy and
accessible kosher food was in Israel but
growing up in Brookline sure you did not
eat I did certainly with my family I
always did but on my own no I did what I
would and your pay your father didn't
know that no my knew there my parents
knew and at the time my siblings didn't
even know and I got to tell you some
people listening out there would say
that's disingenuous but I had a friend
of mine that became totally secular
and a completely secular his father was
a rabbi every time he went home he put
on a kippah he told his father that he
he kept Shabbat he would lie to his
father and to me it was actually respect
so I was able to do that because of the
internal chaos yeah fear and anger and
is this like crazy dance for so many
years where I I guess there were there
must have been some white lies along the
way but I was very careful to always try
to say things and present things and
respond to things and answer things in a
way where I didn't have to rightly lie
but exactly either right but I just want
to take a step backwards and it looks
like there's gonna be an interview on
the longer side than the shorter side
but what was my question I was taking a
step backwards oh you you said that you
came to the conclusion that it was
morality that mattered right and the
legal things mattered less all the way
to nothing right did you I can only
imagine that you saw a certain hypocrisy
around you where people were focusing on
the legalities and not the morality was
that what caused that well there was
some of that no not so much I think that
for me it was I was trying to understand
what was it all about I believed in God
and I felt connected to him but in a
very different way than the people
around me and so I was trying to
understand what's the essence of the
connection that we should we should
strive for with God and where I landed
was this morality which made a lot of
sense to me you know you need to still
be a good person how can you expect God
to love you and look favorably upon you
if you're not treating other people with
respect if you're not trying to help
your fellow man so really that's really
what it boiled down to and so I just
settled on focusing on my morals which
also felt good to okay it doesn't feel
good to be mean to somebody and I think
because earlier in my life I had had all
this anger and maybe I wasn't so nice to
people that I realized like that was
something I needed to work on
it was one of my character traits I had
to work on so that's the focus that I
had and and you know a lot of that I
think also came from this place around
when I started to connect on in my
studies in Israel my time there after
about six months I realized that I was
very unhappy and I was very angry and I
realized that's not the way I wanted to
live my life and so I started to focus a
lot on on the idea of not not worrying
so much about what other people thought
of me which I did worry about because I
think I lived in this world of
expectation for so long that I started
just to kind of live my life more as an
open book and if I felt a certain way I
tell people I felt that way if I thought
something I would let somebody know
that's what I thought and something
amazing happened where I up until that
point I think I was very self-conscious
and at very low self-esteem I started
becoming more confident because the more
that I was genuine and open with people
the more I found my my world expanding
you know in terms of the number of
friends I had and I started feeling
better about myself and and so I started
to to begin to to kind of really live
the life that I'm still living to today
through that but but yet all of the
connection I had with the learning and
with the praying and all that and I
really did feel very connected very very
connected in that time once I left the
world of my Maha Shiva my my program in
Israel I went back to university it
didn't take long for for all of that to
kind of fade away and I went back to
just kind of living the you know for
myself and I've tried to be a good
person and a good friend and I still was
living a very real kind of open book
life but my religious observance you
know start to slide again and and that's
really kind of the the path that I
stayed on up until about five years ago
five years ago five years ago okay and
then about five years ago all right now
you were held 4141 right so about 36 is
actually exactly at my 36th birthday my
nephew Joe say if my sister Tamar and my
brother
if he had their second of three children
yo safe because that that's a little bit
of a tenuous place to be when you're
getting married right I mean you were
married how many years ago we're going
on 17 and a half years so almost 18
years 18 years so you were you've really
gone through a transformation today yeah
my wife and I thank God I've always been
very connected she's amazing she's
amazing she's she's I say like a best
friend to me because she's my wife so
it's not the same as when you say
somebody is a best friend who you're not
married to she's definitely a best
friend but it's different there's much
more to it than that she's also my wife
and and we've always kind of somehow
been tapped into the same thing so we've
gone through all of our different stages
of life as adults together and that's a
huge blessing huge blessing because I
see people who decide they want to be
less religious or more religious and
their spouses are not with them on that
journey and it can pull pull people
apart yes it really urges a hundred
percent so we've been very very lucky in
that sense that that didn't happen and
yeah so five years ago my nephew was
born I came to Israel actually met my
brother Toby here just for the bris it
was like for the bring me allow the
ritual circumcision that Jewish baby
boys have at eight days after eight days
after they're born so we were here for
like a two half-day trip it was a very
short trip but over the course of that
trip based on the things that Toby and I
got to do in terms of the places we went
and prayed and and the people we saw and
I just started feeling really really
connected to the observance of my
religiosity which I hadn't really felt a
personal connection to for most of my
life for a lot of my life
I started wondering like maybe I needed
to live in Israel to have that strong
connection and the conclusion that I was
helped to through talking to some people
was that it really wasn't Israel that if
I wanted to be connected and have that
connection be real I just need to make
it real and take things in slowly and
with intention and that's the conclusion
you've come to you don't feel like the
being here in Israel was a certain
environment in fact that with a
facilitated subconsciously at that stage
it wasn't for me it wasn't
I understand intellectually it wasn't it
wasn't something you could I I had more
to go through where I was so that the
connection could be mine and it wouldn't
come just from the outside so much of
what I had done in terms of the
observance that I that I did because of
expectation happened because it was what
was surrounding me I needed to now come
to a place of observance from inside so
coming to a place where you're
surrounded by this very obvious holiness
and inspiration while I think that
Israel is an incredible place and where
every Jew should come to live and and
non-jews alike but but it's best
especially the Jewish people out there
should come to live here in the Land of
Israel for me personally at that stage
you know I didn't that wasn't that
wasn't what inspired me to come move to
Israel Israel was always very important
to me and I should say that my wife all
since she and I had been together she
always wanted to come live here and I
would come on trips and it was something
that I wasn't opposed to that I come on
trips and try to explore different
career opportunities for myself and and
I just didn't find the opportunities
that I really connected to so I
continued on my career path in America
and you know Liv was living a very
comfortable very good life there you
know with all the all the trappings and
trimmings and we we were very lucky to
be in a great community with lots of
friends and a great career and a nice
house and two beautiful cars and great
kids and the dog and you know like the
whole package there but but anyway I
went back to America and and I started
to connect I started by learning a
little bit more the advice that I got
really that really helped to kind of
change everything was that if I really
wanted to connect I should find
something to attach to that I felt
attached to something small and focus on
making sure that I had it in my life on
a daily basis and then I should think of
that thing as like a spark and that if I
really take care of that spark and I
focus on doing it daily that before long
I would take on another spark there be
another spark that comes because of the
first one and how I was taking care of
it and then another and another and
before long there'd be a real fire
burning and that's exactly what happened
you know I started by deciding to put on
seat seat the four corner garments
Jewish men are expected to wear these
tassels on the garment as a reminder of
the connection we have with numbers
right exactly what the creator and so I
started and I like that idea because
number one I felt like I could do that
daily and it was also very personal now
I walk around with my tassels out most
of the time but back then I actually
really liked the fact that I could put
this garment on under my shirt tuck them
the tassels it wasn't about expectations
or what anyone's know that was just you
and God me and God and I I walked around
and nobody had any idea that I was
wearing it was just for me I mean my
connection my relationship with God and
then I started to learn and then through
the learning I realized that if I really
want to set out on this journey of
connection that I should find a rabbi
who I could feel close to and relates
you to help me along this path and and
help guide me and help help me through
the questions that I in everybody I
would have and I did have and so I
reached out to this rabbi he wasn't the
rabbi of my synagogue at the time he
became the rabbi of the synagogue that I
when then went then and and connected to
rabbi Benjamin Samuels in Newton masters
it's a very very special very special
and dynamic person and he was incredible
he encouraged me to take things slow
which I think was very important for me
and in terms of making them real instead
of starting to do all the things that I
knew I should quote-unquote should be
doing I was gonna try to understand why
why did did I want to do this thing and
what was the significance behind it and
so I went I just continue down that he
helped you pick the sparks yeah or or
just through that through some of what
he revealed to me certain sparks became
obvious to me and and they they did it
and amazing things started happening I
started you know being my wife and I in
our we had two girls already at that
point we all started observing the
Sabbath laws again and being shown my
Shibata and show Marrakesh roots first
in just in the home and then also
outside the home and for some reason
it's such a mind Bend for me that you're
married you have children and you
weren't keeping Shabbat and kosher and
you are who you are now
yeah it's I mean you know III there's a
lot of things that have become clear to
me over the last few years let's say
certainly in the last year and a half
especially since I moved to Israel but
one of the we live in the world of
illusion right and our reality is just
what we're able to perceive and time is
one of the the many illusions of this
world and and
you know there's a lot that we very
convincing but so I'll tell you how I
got to Israel who should we switch yeah
parties yeah go
my my well I should say that my youngest
sister our yeah the youngest is my
family is my sister who's 12 years
younger than me Tamar she made alia
about eight and a half years ago and she
was living very happily in Jerusalem and
started her family there and then my
brother Toby may Dalia now about four
years ago three and a half four years
ago and was after my brother made alia
that I came to visit Israel on Sukkot
and Toby already had moved to Ephrata
the neighbor that I live in now where
the base of our learning takes place and
and I really love the community when I
was here I got connected with Rob slow
mo the leader of our Jabara the head of
our club Laura and I really enjoyed that
so that was like my first connection to
eff rotten and we I was so inspired
through one of the the prayer services
that we did the hoshanah Rabbah Hallel
that I even walked up to her of
afterwards and said to him something
became very clear to me during that that
that's Fela that prayer that it's not a
matter of if I make a Leah's just when
so there was this awareness we're like
I'm gonna come live here someday and I
knew and I didn't think I expressed it
to him and I said you know to myself and
to my wife we want to come live here in
a frat this is a special place and then
I actually went and tried to explore
again the idea of trying to find a
career for myself here I felt like I was
blocked off hit a bunch of dead ends and
went back to America got back into my
routine there and we were very happy but
within a year about eight or nine months
later my father
eleven he passed away and was not
something we were expecting and that was
very hard for us for obvious reasons and
it it started me down this path of
trying to reevaluate life you know the
first thing that happened when the
initial shock wore off was I realized in
a much more real and clearer way than I
ever had before that life is short and
fragile and we all have one go around
you know one see Veuve to use the hebrew
word and some of us have a longer go
around some of us have a shorter go
around my dad's was only 64 years it not
long I can't say it's short either
people people so thank God he had a very
good life but it wasn't a long life and
I realized no matter what the length is
it's just one it's one one go around
right and even you know we say in
Judaism odd May of Esther emits at 120
years and even that's not a very long
time and it's a morbid thought we don't
like to think about it but I didn't care
about thoughts being good or bad or more
better not more of it I just true what
was exactly truth what's real what I
want to open a parenthesis really quick
because we're good I don't want to take
you off this trajectory you're on but I
just remember on that trip to the
Ukraine I was so you know impressed with
you and in Toby and I said tell me a
little bit about your father sure I want
to know about him and you said some
things to me that I have not forgotten
said and I don't have like a memory for
anything but I don't want to not already
go on all the time but just open up a
parenthesis share a few things one to
find him my dad I'll tell you why I want
to I want you to share this because when
you were sharing with me I said to
myself what do I want my children please
God I should what do I want them to
remember me by what when someone says
tell me about your dad what do I want
them to stand out in their minds and I
said I I would want my my children to
define me as you defined your father
well I don't remember exactly where to
find them men but
to find him you just shared if anything
I'll tell you a little bit about him
that is it share a few of the
unreasonable that's what I remember
about the stories that you're dead you
know a lot of Jews are just good a lot
of Jews er a lot of I mean people in the
world are good but good he was
unreasonable he had his flaws like we
all do but he he had this uncanny
ability to connect with people but not
just anybody like we all can connect if
we choose to he somehow was able to see
and notice the people who are like
sitting in the back of the room that
nobody else sees not only did he see
them but he did all he'd go up to them
and he did engage them and he'd give him
a hug and asked them how they're doing
and want to get to know them we had a
revolving door in our house growing up
of people coming to our Sabbath table
for meals that we didn't know that until
we ran into them at our synagogue that
morning or that evening we had never met
it before in our lives and they needed a
place to eat and so my father was the
first guy to like raise his hand and
grab them to bring them home with us he
was a tremendous Balthus ed you know a
guy who who just wanted to help
everybody that he encountered and he'd
see somebody in he'd hear somebody who
was going through something and want to
help them get out of whatever Jam
they're in or he'd see somebody who
wasn't in a jam but my father would see
an area where maybe he could help and
just improve their life whether they
were looking to improve it or not and
he'd try to help them to that's just
what to find him he just what really
went out of his way and I think the
thing that that a lot of people spoke
about after he passed away that
certainly stands out in my mind is you
know we grew up hopping at the Boston at
praying at the Boston rebus synagogue in
Brookline but we also were involved in
the young Israel of Brookline and the
young Israel of Brookline but but on a
second there it's like a secondary base
of prayer and worship and the others
were Brookline burned down in a tragic
fire
back in 1995 my father took on this role
spearheading the rebuilding of the
synagogue and worked on it for about two
and a half years and refused to take any
money for it and that was his full-time
job for two enough years he dedicated
his whole life his whole being to
rebuilding this shul
so I think that that that in a nutshell
it's the best example I can think of
that that's more on a on a community
level but he also didn't see these
divisions that I mentioned earlier for
him the Jewish community was one
community so he was involved in all
these different sub categories and I'm
using parentheses to say sub categories
cuz I don't like to think about that way
I might on Orthodox this is my community
this is my buddy he would have defined
himself as modern or he didn't allow
that to it he didn't limit the fact that
he lived in modern orthodox life to the
community that he was going to get
involved in anybody within the extended
Jewish community that needed help he
would go help him because he saw it all
as one community and that had a very big
impact clearly on all of us and you
mentioned something and I'm gonna let
you get back onto your alia trajectories
something about the airport oh yes when
when after my father passed away we he
lived in Brookline and we were at that
point my wife and I and our kids were
living in Newton through the last of my
siblings still in the States and we were
about a 15-minute drive from where my
dad was living and my father had wanted
to be buried in Israel he already had a
plot picked out from before he passed
away which is not an uncommon thing to
do an injured isn't to find a spot ahead
of time and my wife father just picked
out his putt and my mother's blood and
he's very consumed with the view yeah my
dad office very proud of his spot - it's
funny he say that and my dad loved love
that's my talk glowingly about where he
was gonna be buried and and you know
maybe that's something nice it helps to
take the edge off this fear of death
when you know like I know where I'm
gonna be my body my body anyways gonna
rest for eternity her and soul till the
Messiah comes almost comes but yeah he
loved that so yes I came here I flew
with my wife we escorted in my dad's
body to Israel for the burial and then
we began the seven-day
Shiva period where we sit in a time of
mourning with my siblings in Israel but
in the middle of Shiva we laughed all of
us my siblings and I and my wife flew
back to America back to my house in
Newton in Boston to finish the process
of Shiva in Boston so that my father had
spent so much of his life is adult life
in Boston we want to give to allow
people there to have their expressed
their condolences and feel like they
could get some kind of closure closure
yeah yeah and when we were in the
airport waiting to board the plane we
ran into an acquaintance of my brothers
who insisted on speaking to my brother
on the flight my brother I remember
saying to him like you know I'm in Shiva
I don't really it's not a time for me to
socialize and this guy really pushed you
gotta just talk to me hear me out so
they did and next thing I knew my
brother was grabbing me on the plane on
the mid flight to come talk to this guy
and he wanted to talk to me about trying
to connect me with the Builder who was
building his house he had bought a house
from a developer in Raanana a city
closer to the coast than where we live
in Israel he bought from a developer but
the developer hired this builder this
builder was an Israeli builder building
to a very high standard it was a very
big very large high-end home and this
acquaintance of my brother's fellow by
the name of Ilan he wanted me to meet
the contractor whose name was avi and
connect me with him in an effort to try
to establish a partnership to bring me
to Israel to come live in Israel to work
with this guy because my specialty in
the States for my whole career was
building high-end custom homes and
obvious specialty was high-end custom
homes I'm American he was Israeli and
the the English native English speakers
coming to Israel in large part and there
are of course exceptions to every rule
but in large part they're intimidated
and afraid blocked off to building these
custom homes for themselves because they
were afraid of the cultural and and gaps
and the different mentalities and the
language barrier and so rather than buy
a place or build a place when it's
really billy they'd buy places mostly
already built and do small changes to
personalize them that was this concept
of Ilan's which i think by the way is
true to a large degree again exceptions
every rule
and so I kind of I agreed to meet with
this obvi I was coming back about three
and a half weeks later where we were
gonna place my father's headstone and I
said I'll meet with him there's no harm
and meeting with him I admit with other
contractors before nothing seemed to
work before but I figured what the heck
can't hurt to meet with him long story
short I came back I met with him IV and
I totally hit it off it was the
beginning of a potential partnership but
that's really where we left it I said to
myself look if if I decide to move to
Israel this is a guy I could partner
with and I went back and I went back to
thinking about like life's priorities
like I said life is short the conclusion
I came to was let me speak with my wife
and let's figure out what our priorities
are or should be make sure we have them
all in our lives right it's life is
short let's just make sure I have it all
correct we did that over a course of a
couple months talking constantly about
it came to the conclusion we're good we
have all of our priorities in life there
in our life we're good and then we said
well wait a minute let's make sure we
have them in the right order another few
weeks of conversation debating what's
the right order and something became
very clear to us that we didn't have it
to the order right that the most
important thing up into that stage was
our career and career is very important
you have to be able to support yourself
to support your family but it's not the
most important thing for us the most
important thing was family and Israel
and most of our family thankfully for us
was already living in Israel that was at
the moment we made mental Alia in the
weeks and months that followed we made
our preparations to to move we sold our
house and our cars and and I think all
of our personal belongings that we
didn't want to bring with us we either
sold or gave away or donated and I in
that same time period
I formalized the partnership with this
fellow avi who I admit
and we came to moved Israel we knew
already where we wanted to move was this
scary no I tell people it was the
easiest hard thing that we ever did it
or have done in our life it was not
scary because it was so clear to us what
needed to happen and we need to be done
scary maybe in the sense that like we
knew there were gonna be a lot of
unknowns but I can't say that I was
afraid of those things I just knew to
expect them and that there were gonna be
things that I didn't know how to
navigate and I have to figure them out
and I personally like challenged and
there was nothing about the challenges
that I knew lied ahead that were gonna
hold me back from doing what I knew was
right for me and right for our family
and there was talk my wife I talk should
we delay moving do we have to do it
right away you know we don't want to
rush into it but the boys came in it's
not theirs first the only time I was
only a few years away from taking full
ownership of my company I had a partner
in the States and you know there was
talk should we wait a few more years
I'll take full ownership I don't have to
then think about selling my shares or
giving up my shares and I can maybe run
the company from Israel and come back
and forth and we looked at our kids and
we looked at life and said you know look
we've just established that we had our
priorities out of order and if our
priority is being in Israel I don't want
anything tying me back to the States in
terms of career friends and the family
that does remain in Israel and America
rather certainly keeps us connected
that's selling your shares was the best
case scenario that the best thing to do
was to to have like a clean cut as far
as that that was concerned and we didn't
keep our house to rent it and we didn't
keep our cars to rent them we didn't
keep shares in the company we wanted a
fresh start we wanted to not because
we're running away from anything that's
also important to note that we were very
grateful and still to this day I'm very
grateful that
moving to israel for us was running to
something and away from nothing and i
think that's an incredible thing to be
able to say and I it's something I'm
very very grateful for and and we've
come here we're here now a little less
than a year and a half that came in July
2016 I hadn't I'm amazed at the beauty
that surrounds us on a daily basis and
we're afforded so much opportunity here
you know you hear all the time that
America is the land of opportunity and
it is I think there are a lot of
opportunities in America but there is
only one land of opportunity and it's
Israel so I want to touch on the various
opportunities but just to ask for one
that I think a lot of our listeners are
wondering did you take was it a big
financial hit on a career level on a
professional level you had an
established company there you sold your
shares you burn the bridge you came here
new partnership how did the new
partnership work out it's working out
great I have two other partners that I
that I've agreed to to work with since
I've arrived and thank God I I approach
in terms of getting the business started
is a little bit unconventional based on
all my experience in the States and you
know I've worked very hard on connecting
with other like-minded professionals in
related fields architects and designers
and real estate attorneys and mortgage
brokers and real estate brokers to
surround myself with this community of
people who Idol who I want to
collaborate with on these high-level
projects and so a lot of this time since
I arrived there's been introducing
myself so people know that I'm here now
as an option to turn to and thank God
the opportunities keep keep coming on a
regular basis now we're at the stage
where pretty much thank God about once a
week if I'm getting at least one
invitation to come bid on a project or
be considered for a project which is an
incredible incredible thing it's
something that I thought I hoped was
going to happen
based on the approach I took I expected
that it would happen but until it
happens you know you you don't have that
validation of knowing if it's the right
approach or wrong so in the career of
professional level think thank God
things are going well yeah I came with a
three year plan for career as far as
career goes and I launched my company at
the end of November 2016 so I'm just
over a year in and thank God based on
the goals that I set for each of the
three years I'm doing better than where
I hoped to be at this stage and I think
it was good that I had that to kind of
check myself against because there were
times in that first year of the company
where I said is this working and all I
had to do was look at well what was I
hoping to have gotten accomplished in
this first year and I can look at it and
say yeah yeah okay things are going well
this is working in terms of finances
yeah there are challenges
I came based on you know selling our
house and selling our cars and all the
assets we had in America I had a certain
amount of money to live which which we
are still I'm still living off of
savings not entirely because I've
already started to work and thank God I
have projects running but but still
still working to build that up but that
was part of the plan I didn't expect
that it would happen instantaneously
because I wasn't starting off here as an
employee I was starting my own company
here and so you're starting I'm starting
my career here from scratch I'm not
starting from scratch I bring all of my
experience in my knowledge from America
here to Israel so I have that that jump
start but but it is starting in a new
place so there is that that time you
need to give to think for things to to
take root and take hold okay and kids
and that's the biggest blessing for us
my kids we have four amazing girls age
fourteen thirteen seven and six now my
kids thank god they're all really happy
and there are challenges I don't want to
sugarcoat anything the most important
thing is to be real for anybody listen
you 67 76 that's a good tell you know
it's 14 to 13 you know it's really
amazing and it's not that the older kids
didn't have challenges when they
Kame although my oldest really didn't
she was so happy to make alia the
happiest of all my kids but I think that
the younger to have had more it's been
more challenging for them and for the
older team and true the opposite what
what I expected asks counter it's
another good reminder about this world
of illusion by like the worst things we
can do for ourselves sometimes is set
expectations why don't we just go
through life maintaining our priorities
and and working hard on our morals and
and setting goals but not not looking at
them as limited to to just whatever
we've set out to in other words okay I'd
like to achieve a certain amount of
revenue in this year all right but I
don't I don't want it to only get to
that number I'd love for it to be an
even higher number and I think that
using a financial example for my kids to
like I'd like for my kids at the end of
three years to speak Hebrew fluently but
would I be disappointed if they did that
after two years of course not
right I'd love for it to happen sooner
but you know you want to try to balance
balance those two things mmm okay and on
a spiritual level how has have no big
surprises well I can tell you I never
I've never learned so much on a daily
basis in my life
I don't even know how to put it into
words but there's something very special
going on in our community and with our
community both the local and extended
one your something in between right
because you're like always there but you
live outside of our little little
neighborhood hopefully people see our
our kabura and our community at large
the she wrapped up in community as being
open because it is open the reality is
it is open I think that it might be
perceived from certain people looking
from outside as a very closed group
because of how close we are but that's
not the case at all people here are
walking through life open with an open
mont open minds open hearts looking to
connect with other people who who want
to explore the depths of life and of
learning and of connection with us and
there's no limit to the number of people
who can come join us on that journey and
I think that you know you talk about
Jews being the light onto the nations
which i think is true and I think that's
the expectation other nations in the
world have for us as Jews and I aspire
to live up to that expectation but I
think that we really need to focus not
just on that but
we need to focus on being a light unto
the other Jews of the world you know I
have to say when you and the entire
kabura came out to the farm yesterday
wow that was amazing yeah I call it the
farm just for lack of better the
headquarter call it he calls it like
that the vineyard vineyard fruit tree I
don't even I don't know but I Jeremy and
I know we both felt very strongly that
there's something very significant to
the time out there and because when I
think about what we're doing out there I
don't always know the what but I do know
more the why than the what and the
profit on most that's where he had his
neva and he said he made ya mean by M no
mushroom you hear out of Barrett's
laravel a lack of a lot some alum I'm
keenly Schmoe dear hm there will be a
hunger in the land the hunger will not
be for bread and the thirst will not be
for water but to hear the word of Hashem
and I think about that I say well that's
what we want to broadcast from there but
on the other and I don't know that word
I don't know what is the word of Hashem
and you know my David Aaron used to say
he said Torah is not the place you come
to to get all the answers it's the place
you come to to ask the right questions
beautiful and I think that's what's so
beautiful about our kabura it's not that
you know there's even even Rosh Lomo he
doesn't come to it with an energy of
saying I'm gonna teach you now he very
much comes to it with an energy of we're
here all of us including him to learn
together he's sort of our guide in the
learning together but he's learning
right there alongside us and I felt like
when the Hoeber came out that there's
something that's going to be here that
is not just us but the the labora the
group of us in general it's what we're
doing out in the farm it's gonna be can
I don't know how I don't know what but I
just had that feeling I'm with you
hundred percent you know how much I love
going out there to visit you and just to
be in that spot and I definitely feel
some kind of a pull to those those hills
those mountains and
I loved every second I have out there
and you definitely I can't say that I'm
receiving Nahua or prophecy when I'm
there but there is something about that
spot that that's just very special and I
definitely feel it yeah I haven't closed
myself off to that by the way haha the
idea of never I think we're entering the
times where cuz I'll say that or say
just say Naboo is going to come back
into the world how that looks and how
that is I don't know but I know that
there's certain times I have ideas that
come to me and as I'm writing them down
and saying thank you I'm I know there's
a museum I know this is not for me that
that sort of inspiration isn't from
within it's a good place to find clarity
of mind that's for sure yeah sometimes
it will lead to some confusion because
there's like wait wait a minute how did
I even come to that to that thought but
that's that spot is definitely a place
we did it yesterday in the cave on on
your farm or whatever we're going to
call it's not that we were and that's
sort of how I base it I would sort of
wind the show down in the way that I
started it by saying it's it's difficult
for me to put my finger on why I feel so
close to you and to the guys in this
group and and I would say that in the
spiritual world right you're close to
something when you're is similar to it
and you're far from something when
you're different from it because ain't
no Demi Lovato there's no that you said
time is an illusion so is distance 100%
so how were we close or far away from
anything if there's no real thing as
distance when you're similar to it and
and what are we at the very core if not
our desire so the desire of all of the
people that we're with here is I think
what really binds us together and that
desire is truth is to come close to
Hashem and therefore we're coming close
to each other in that journey so and
what's so beautiful about is where all
the years Rosh Loma also not teaching
but we're learning together and he opens
it up to the world I think what what's
happening with us we're like the nucleus
but though people all around the world
are tuning in term of Shlomo's teachings
to our teachings on the Land of Israel
Network and and I feel like it's the
beginning of some sort of movement and
you and your Adobe a real pillars in it
you're a pillar and it's very humbling
and
and if anyone wants to reach out to to
don't send me an email I don't want him
to get bombarded Ari at the Land of
Israel , forwarded to him sounds grand
no thank you so much for joining us
Thank You Ari