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Is there such a thing as a Good Samaritan? With Rob Kurtz
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Rob Kurtz, head of creative at Driver Studios shares insights into his journey to Judaism, his approach to mentorship and more.
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there's a reason it's still here 3,000
years later there's a reason that some
of the greatest people you've ever met
were a part of it and that the impact
that people that make up less than 1% of
the world that we the impact we have on
the world is so spectacularly huge a
proportion for who we
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are so it's a a great honor and a
pleasure to Welcome to our mentorship
podcast um Rob who is not a mentor
Mentor doesn't begin to describe he's
like a super Mentor Mega Mentor is that
a good way to say it I was happy with
Mentor I think you that's pretty super
had three three mentorships correct uh
yeah your wife also my wife has two but
probably will take another one
soon you guys are really rocking it so
let's let's Jump Right In I think that
people would be kind of curious about a
little bit about your background like
where did you grow up what's your
professional Journey a little bit about
your personal Journey let's try to keep
it brief but interesting yeah because I
don't know interesting um I the most
interesting part I guess for our
audience is that I grew up totally
secular um Suburban Long Island not the
parts that most people know out east
near the Hamptons um one of I think
three or four Jewish kids in my high
school um and uh the Hebrew school
they're great
um I don't know how best best best way
to describe Hebrew school um root cause
of anti-Semitism in the world I'm not
sure um je je jail
okay um but uh while there there was a
particular Rabbi who took uh great
interest he came from he drove quite a
distance and he cared about us a lot I
loved him and um he sparked a real
interest in me in in in my Heritage and
I Grand grandmother who um was just all
things good in the world and would we'd
visit her on Friday nights and she'd
cooked everything for everybody's their
favorite thing and everybody was a
darling and she loved everyone and I
loved her and so it was a real contrast
between and my parents were very
traditional in in their very supportive
nature of being Jewish but you know we
were like it's completely secular family
there was a real contrast for me from
like the people I was growing up with
and what my family was about and what
our background was so it always kind of
created a desire of me to to know more
but it wasn't until I got to college and
actually not until graduate school till
I realized I knew absolutely nothing and
um and then started looking into it a
little bit more where did you go to
college and where did you go to graduate
school I went to NYU for film school um
as an undergrad and I went to uh I went
to stay of New York City and I went to
law school at Cardoza School of Law and
while there there was a rabbi who taught
and I just thought it'd be real
interesting course on Jewish law and I
took that course and that had an
incredible impact on me um it's a brief
story but it's a worthwhile one because
it really had tremendous impact on me
there's
um in law all the lawyers who may hear
this one day there's something called
the Good Samaritan Rule which is a very
nice rule it's common in American law
it's common in English English common
law which is the idea of a good Samaran
is a good person it's a Christian
concept that this the Good Samaritan and
the idea be the Good Samaritan Rule is
if you're driving down the road and you
see somebody's hurt on the side of the
road um a Good Samaritan it removes any
liability from the nice person who stops
to help them you don't have to stop but
if you stop people always worry G if I
don't know what I'm doing well make
things worse can I get sued or am I
liable the Good Samaritan Rule comes
along to say no you can't take out a
hammer hit the guy in the head you can't
be grossly negligent but you can try to
help and if you in your chance to help
you made things worse you're not liable
because you trying to help That's Good
Samaritan Rule in a nutshell and then I
was I had learned that made sense to me
it's good thing it's encourage people to
do to be good and then in the Jewish I
was taking this class in Jewish law it
was like one of those moments that just
changes everything for you when they
class in Jewish law you discover it's
there's no such thing as a Good
Samaritan there's no such thing as a
Good Samaritan because what do you mean
you could keep driving down the
road your brother's on the side of the
road you're liable if you don't stop you
must stop what are you talking about
you're seeing your brother on the side
of the road so the the non-jewish ideas
well listen you can keep going but we'd
like you to stop the Jewish ideaas you
can't keep going you have an obligation
to stop and help him and I remember
sitting in that class I remember raising
my hand and asking whether ibody to
repeat that and he then realized because
almost everybody in the class was an
observant person who knew basic Jewish
law but I didn't so everybody was like
looking me like what's your problem
don't you get this I what do you mean
you're obligated to stop and it just
this light bul went off of of a system
of obligations rather than a system of
Bill of Rights because growing up to
that point I was a happy American the
greatest document in the world to me was
a Bill of Rights and these are all our
rights there are no rights in in Torah
you know and I went to it just it made
me want to like I started reading
everything I could and learn anything I
could about the idea of a
system that you are expecting
to be much greater than your Bas based
person you have obligations in the world
and you're born into obligation and not
born it to rights and that was just a
really huge defining moment for me I
mean fantastic really did you become a
law did you become a lawyer or did you
I I finished law school and took the bar
and took past the bar to make my parents
happy but I never practiced law for
D um
I uh maybe you went to law school
because you needed that realization from
that one professor in Cordo cordozo no
it's either that or the fact that it was
great for you know meeting girls um and
it definitely um helped U my wife get
over the really bad pled sweater I was
wearing in our first date so and maybe
that helped but um otherwise I have no
idea why I went to law school um and did
you did you stay in New York or you went
to California to chase your dreams what
happens the day after the bar exam I
went to California
and uh and um I uh yeah I wanted to
trace that dream that's what I always I
always wanted to be a writer and did you
did you did that
rematerialize yeah yeah I I I wrote for
sitcoms for more than 10 years I wrote
feature that posted behind me um and I
still I I'm a creative lead at a studio
right now we make a lot of content for
mostly for kids and families and and uh
in the streaming world yeah that was
that was the bulk of my um creative
career anyway that's amazing that's
wonderful and I'm assuming just tell the
people who are tuning in over here that
you're Mar I know you're married I know
you have kids I know you have grandkids
I've met your wife she's a rock star and
I haven't met your kids but if they
follow their parents I think they're
probably pretty good no um they're
pretty awesome yeah um actually my son
CJ learns with I think they're mayor
guys on he when he was here he's in
Yeshiva and Israel but when he was here
he was learning with guys on Monday
nights on the upper west side um I think
from ruter and he did
a the program in Montana where he was
one of the um the group leaders in
Montana and he's got a whole bunch of
guys that come out into Israel Vis with
him so he's he loves um he loves being
involved with with c and um my daughters
I think have guests all the time yeah so
we they're it's a family it's a family
thing they grow up with lots of people
around the shabas table who uh didn't
didn't themselves not grow up around
Javas tables and um we consider it our
part of
our our role in this world okay so you
know most people that I talk to and I
asked them I suggest them if they'd like
to become a mentor happens to be Jewish
people are very special and I think it's
fair to say that over 90% say yes very
few people say
yes they're mte Mente there's a few out
there but you know I think we have like
one in Toronto and maybe like one in
England and that's it um hey you're a
busy guy I know that and what is it
about mentorship that you find
compelling that you want to do this that
you're you're you know you're involved
you're devoted and to call SP Spade I
don't know how many people know this but
when we try to cook off mentorship in a
substantial way you in the Long Island
area getting met Long Island area you
and your wife were our ambassadors you
kind of took it up from the ground level
so what pulls you what draws you about
it um on a serious side people mentored
me okay on the on the less sincer side
what you were saying before about how
Jews are different yeah we just like to
tell everybody what to do um you know
but but I more serious yeah people were
mentors to me and people helped me
enormously in in the world and and it's
a really great thing when with in a
simple conversation or a shabas
invitation or just sharing an idea from
the paraa can really impact people being
somebody who was once impacted yeah was
over 30 years ago but somebody who was
impacted by those conversations once you
know the power of it how do you uh it's
how do you how do you not want to share
it and you know one of the one of the
guys that I mentored is now in Israel
learning and you know I can't even keep
up with him anymore he's just on fire
you know but so
so I don't know you know there are
certain people in the world that
whenever they discover something good
whether and I think Jews are totally
like this whether it's a restaurant or a
book you got to read shampoo you just
yeah you just got to tell everybody
about it and they all have to do it and
you know whatever it is you have that's
really good you got to tell everybody
about it's really good so if you feel
that way about a book or a restaurant or
a place you went on
vacation how do you not feel that way
about the whole point of our lives and
to you know like you take me back to
like you said you know because you had
amazing mentors you wanted to you know
give that back if you want to call that
can you share with me one or two of the
people in your past who were your
mentors who were life-changing or just
were
phenomenal um I still have them many of
them um but uh you know throughout there
were different ones there was there was
that Rabbi in Hebrew school I mentioned
before he's no longer with us um you
know he had been drafted into the NFL
and chose to become a rabbi instead you
know so I his path really was
unbelievable to me he a strong powerful
guy and uh well you didn't want to make
him upset in Hebrew school that's for
sure because he
he could punt
you but he was when he got angry it was
not good but I will say this but when he
loved you man he loved you in a way that
you know secular teachers can't I mean
probably against the law but he he he
you know he he was the first time I ever
had choas was when he would invite us to
his home and meet his family and his
kids in Oceanside and his name was Rabbi
Jeff wartenberg he was an unbelievable
person in my life um Rabbi wartenberg is
the kind of person the ass
assimilation rate suffi County where I
grew up is like 70 80% was crazy and he
taught in our Hebrew school I don't know
for 20 years a little tiny ew school and
only one person ever married it and I
think it I think I don't think he was
ever at peace with it I think it killed
him um wow so you know because after you
meet people like that you you touched
you touched your 3,000 year old
tradition you're not you know just some
girl some girl named Mary is going to do
it after raway that's for sure um so he
was one it was a person in
professionally not as a writer but just
as a person his name is Howard Sterling
was a a mentor to me in La when I first
got out there and Howard played a big
role in my life in in the fact that I
they used to he was one of the chairmans
of APAC and I was very involved with
APAC and they had their meetings at the
Beverly Hills Hotel and there's so much
to admire about Howard but the thing
that sticks with me always is that
Beverly hotel has this big drive up
driveway in an LA cars are Beyond status
symbols they're they're mini Goods you
know what you drive is who you are and
there was Howard who is easily one of
the most successful people in the whole
city forget the hotel and you know he
had a four tourist and I just and I when
that four tourist pulled up and
everybody else would like look at who
the schlep and and he would get in go
rob want to ride and I'd be like yeah
really I do and it was just you know it
was it was uh he was a tremendous is a
tremendous person and um he taught me a
lot and he actually told me one time
when I was home for the holidays when I
was in LA my home was in New York he
said I want you go to place ASA tour and
you're going to meet some people there
they're gonna you they'll invite you I
he made a phone call or two for lunch
and it changed everything because I I
didn't even know I was like sure I'll go
over there and I forgot what y other
think it was this over 30 years ago they
all became very close dear friends and
ultimately I moved from the beach into
town to be part of the whole Community
there my friends were there the rabbis
there were just I love them all and so
he played a huge role in my life and
currently there's a rabbi that I met
when I was in Israel 20 some OD years
ago 25 20
more
wow years ago um his name is Rabbi Natan
Lopez cardoo Rabbi cardoo sure played a
huge role in my life huge still does and
um he he gave me my my my reala towards
My Philosophy towards Judaism and that
was um it was a call to dignity was his
his whole thing was the king is is
showing you how to live in his Palace
and and that that was what he taught and
was his Torah that's what he said
everything you're learning here is he's
teaching the king is teaching you had to
live like a prince how to be royal in
his Palace question is are you is this
what you yearn for is this what you want
do you want to be on that level do you
want to be royalty or do you want to be
something less than that and he would
challeng regular yeah and he would
challenge you to to want to be royalty
and that's what he you know and that
that philosophy has stayed with me
always Robert if you had because there's
a lot of people that are gonna be
watching this God willing and oh really
if you could I apologize you're famous
and you had an opportunity to to have a
one- hour conversation with a young
professional that's starting off you
know they've got bright eyes and they're
looking ahead towards hopefully a
glamorous career and a great
relationship with somebody and a
wonderful family and kids and you have
an opportunity to talk to them for one
hour and probably 90% of what you're
going to say they're going to forget uh
what's the one enduring understanding
that you would love to impart to them
something that they can come back to
that they could think about from time to
time as the many different you know
stops on their Journey
unfold um wow there's so many different
possible answers to that question I love
that you're thinking guys if you're
watching this he thinks that's what you
should take from him um I what would be
there's so many different approaches to
what I would want to share with
him um I would want to share with him
the
idea
um okay I'll tell you what El I would
share with them so on yum Kipper on yum
Kipper we have the ales we're saying I'm
sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry most of us are
raised to believe like you know you feel
bad you're feeling bad for the things
you you did well but I had a rabbi his
name was Dove H always said to
me God doesn't ask you to be anything
you can't be so see those as I know I'm
so much better than this I know I can be
better I know there's I know I'm I know
I'm levels higher and I fell down but
please let me get back up I fell down
let me get back up and I that's how I go
through yum Kipper every year now and
it's the fastest day of the year for me
it's not about fasting it's not anything
it's because I'm I'm remembering what I
got wrong and what I got right that day
it's the whole day to do my recap on the
year so why would I say that to somebody
now and hoping that they would stick one
thing would stick in their mind is that
Judaism is big into two you fell down
get back up and in order to get back up
and become something unbelievably better
than you ever thought you could be dive
into this dive into this because it's a
prescript there's a reason it's still
here 3,000 years later there's a reason
that some some of the greatest people
you've ever met were a part of it and
that the impact that people that make up
less than 1% of the world that we the
impact we have on the world is so
spectacularly huge out of proportion for
who we are and our size and everything
look at Israel I mean look what the
accomplishments just in America 1% of
the population 30% of the government you
know own every Everything Everything
maybe too much that's a different
conversation
but there's something powerful here and
that power belongs to you and you should
grab into that power there's only one
way to grab into that power you have to
grab the rabbi landal of the world and
say teach this to me what is this what
am because I didn't grow up no way this
so teach it to me I want to know who
these people were because yob and Abram
and Sarah and Rifka those aren't names
from the past those are that's your
blood that's your blood and if you
understand that there's royal blood
flowing through your veins but you have
no idea since somebody's got to come
along and say to you you don't even know
you're a prince forgive the son of my my
here you don't even know you're a prince
or a queen or a princess but there are
people walking around Nam Rabbi landal
you know Rabbi Lynn and all the other
wonderful rabbis who are basically
saying my whole life is about letting
you know by the way you're a prince and
that that girl next to you and she's
talking about the Ed you know the her
job working on Madison Avenue you're
talking about her your
job you're both Prince you're both
royalty you come from an unbelievable
chain but you don't know what that is
because after 3,000 years of being
kicked around all around the world
you're not really sure who you are so go
find out do that for yourself just go
find out who you are who this is because
all you know right now is your parents
told you you're
Jewish what is that what does it mean
and why are we so unbelievably great and
why do really awful people hate us
that's a good thing to know when you see
anti-Semitism in the world it's never
great people who are anti-semites there
always horrible horrible people why do
horrible people hate
us maybe they just hate greatness so
what is this greatness that we're a part
of what is this and and when you find
out what it is oh
man then you tapped into amazing you
tapped into something really deep really
unbelievable I'll tell you I'll tell you
something amazing I was once in the
Metro in Washington DC and you know you
go down like 500 steps to get to the
mentro and some of the stations there
and there's this African guy stand not
African-American African African from
like I don't know heart of African
continent and the guy the guy looks at
me and he sees I'm wearing a keepa he's
probably a new immigrant and he says to
me and I'm not gonna imitate him
although I really could because I'm
really good with imitations he says to
me are you a Hebrew and I'm like hebra
I've never been called that before I
said I guess I'm a Jew he says one
second are are you a descendant of
Abraham Isaac and Jacob I said yeah he
says King
Solomon yes I happen to have like a
genealogy that takes me back to King
David he goes oh my gosh then you are
royalty to me and I remember like thank
God the Metro came and I didn't have to
continue the conversation because it was
starting to get a little odd but I
remember like it's swirly in my mind I
am royalty why is he the only one that
sees it why don't we look in the mirror
and see it ourselves so your point is
amazing and it's awesome I want to ask
you just like one final like one final
questione please please sure um so for
for somebody who's on the fence be a
mentor um they're they're pulled in so
many different directions and they're
giving back to the community they have a
family and they have and they have a job
and they they try to work on
self-development and they study Torah
and they're just they're pulling a lot
of different directions we're asking
them to to be M let's say for a half an
hour a week give me your elevator pitch
what would you tell them why should they
do it I'm doing great why why do I need
this well you're asking the wrong guy
because I think we should be giving more
than half an hour a week but I I
um
um because I can tell from me I said
because you don't really
know what real simpa
is it's one thing with your own children
but it's another
to do something I've been blessed to do
many times in my life and that's to go
to the K of somebody where you're
sitting there at
Thea
remembering the first time you met them
and who they are now and that you played
the smallest the biggest whatever that
you played any role in that and you look
at them and you can't even believe this
this person going up there and you just
open open the door for them to say
here's here's here's who you could be
here's what you could be here's here's
your heritage here's your genal here's
your here's everything maybe they came
to you for sabbaths maybe they just
talked business with you but you were
the first religious person they ever met
and it changed their world and I don't
know how many mentees mentors get to go
to their mentees you know I don't know
how the relationship say I certainly
feel close to mine that I hope to be at
their weddings one day
but it's an amazing experience it's an
amazing experience and I've I've had the
opportunity and you you try never to let
it just be something else to know that
you you played the role in another human
being and then when you meet then they
get married and you bump into them a few
years later and you see their kids in
the street and you're and you walk away
and it's a mistake not to sit there and
say oh my God I remember we're supposed
to not remember we're supposed to say
okay that was then this is now look at
an amazing person they are but it's okay
for that moment to sit there and go I
remember when I first met them and and
look what they've became it I played a
little piece of that wow that's it's so
funny that you're saying this because
just last night we've got there was a
young lady who lived across the street
from me when I was a rabbi in East
brunic I think I met her when she was
like 13 or 14 and they're living out of
town they're not living in the uh tri-
state area and they happen to have been
in town you know for the for the winter
break and they came by to our house her
and her husband she's got like five kids
they're amazing they're wonderful and
like me and my wife think to each other
you know we remember when 14-year-old
girl was not you know we no one would
have ever dreamed that her husband would
be a teacher in the local Jewish Day
School that they would have this
incredibly amazing home steeped in
Tradition and warmth and kindness etc
etc and no I don't think we were the
ones that had you know that changed
anything but like you said maybe we just
opened the door we had them over for
chabis and this young lady became very
much part of our family and like we're
not taking any credit but it you you're
I think you're allowed to sometimes look
in the mirror and be like wow it's so
amazing to see what this person became
and it does make you feel good inside
for sure makes you feel good and you get
to say Hashem thank you for let me be a
part of that because I got to play a
role and I got to play a role in that
and you go to these things that's all
you get to do is because you know you
get to play you get to be the guy who
said come on in and and and these those
are hopefully friendships that will last
a long time and it's just it's different
than relationship by far it's very
different relationship with your kids
and with your co-workers because it's
somebody who's saying hey help me and
help me out here and you get to say yeah
let me see how I can help you out and a
real relationship I I I mean the other
mentors I met over the over last year
and told me that they became you know
some came closer than others but they
all had a real a real
CER it's beautiful thing great Rob I'm
so grateful that you've been part of
this already for the last about two
years right now and your wife was also
amazing and I think one day I hope my
prayer my dream one day is that like
when this thing is big and like every
amazing Jewish successful man and woman
says you know I want to be I want to
connect with another Jewish person it'll
be like that that you're sitting in the
audience and you'll be like listen I
open the door a little bit then you'll
have that Nas you'll have that Pride
you'll have that fulfillment so God will
like that's a that's the dream here yeah
the dream is to see to see that to see
that whole world that that happened in
there and say I got to be a part of this
that's all you just get to be a part
it's pretty amazing well we're so
grateful thank you so much Hashem should
bless you entire family and together we
should Savor the success that I think
we're going to amen amen and like I said
hon and up thank you so much Rob I
really appreciate your time all the best
to you
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