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Is Jewish Tragedy a Mystery? - The Burning of the Talmud in Paris in 1242
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and welcome everyone
hope everybody's having a good day today
is a very special day
today is the 26th day of tamils
so first of all
the 26th day of tamas
is of course the most important day of
the year
because it's my birthday and besides
that it's also my son's bar mitzvah
and
you know
say that when misha comes the three
weeks will be transformed into days of
simcha and happiness
so that means
shavasvatamas will be a
and
tishbok will be a yamtif but there's
only one day in the three weeks that's
the shame
so probably the 26th day of thomas will
be a young divoso
okay today i want to talk about
um an episode in jewish history
do you want to send out the uh yeah
they're they're they're noma kairos
today
and
um i want to talk about an episode of
jewish history
um i will have the opportunity in two
days to be standing there at that making
i can't say it's a privilege to be at
that place
it's not a
pleasant makoim
but it's one that is worthy of our
attention
if we look at the 41st kinah that we say
on tish above
the kennel begins sha ali srifa baish
and this kenna mourns the
burning of the 24 cartloads of shas
and the commentaries
publicly in the streets of paris in the
year 1242.
so you could go to the louvre today
and think you're going to an art museum
and uh
not saying that you should go in there
you know
we know what one thing the humish says
about
a malcolm like that well
so you know ask your local orthodox
rabbi about the appropriateness of that
but actually in the square in front of
the louvre is the square where in 1242
they burnt 24
cartwheel cart loads of shas now the
author of the kinna was the marami
rothenberg
uh one of the last of the ballet toys
this in fact the
poins if you look at
the yuma you'll notice the taisusin were
written in a little bit of a different
style
than other taisusan and chassis and in
fact it's because the author of taisis
in masekta
yuma is the maram me rotenberg maramo
was a prolific author
he
wrote over a thousand chuvas
and the yamcha much says about maram
the maram was the student of the arzarua
that's very interesting who's our zara
rabbit of veena
the reason why he's called our zero is
after the safer he wrote are zarua and
we've spoken out that the reason why he
named his seifer or zarua is because he
was writing about how to spell different
names
in gitan
and he had a shiloh about the name
akiva how do you spell akiva do you
spell akiva with a aleph at the end or
did you spell akiva with the hay at the
end and he had a dream and in the dream
hashem showed him the passage
and he realized that the soy fe tavoise
of these words spelled out
and from there he derived that akiva
spelled with the hey by the way we don't
ask in that way we pass can you spell
akiva with an aleph
tamaram was born in 1220 and in the
second half of the 13th century he's the
leader of german jewry
in the
final years maram's life it became
intolerable to live in germany pogroms
taxes blood libels many jews had a flea
and they made the difficult trip to arts
israel
the emperor rudolph the first didn't
want to lose his jewish population it
was adversely affecting the economy so
he declared in 1286 the jews were his
personal property serfs of the emperor's
treasury no one was allowed to leave
germany anyone who did have their
property confiscated the maram attempted
to flee
but he was recognized of course by a
jewish apostate
by the way
the biggest problems in the history of
the jewish people were inflicted on the
jewish people by jews
okay
the spanish inquisition
the most vicious inquisitors including
turkmeyer turkamata had jewish blood
what what the russian revolution could
not accomplish in 10 years the
bolsheviks
who were led by a jewish
bolsheviks
destroyed our people more than anybody
else this is a constant problem
the biggest threat to judaism is the the
falsifiers of of our religion anyway
the maram tries to flee with his family
and he's recognized by jewish apostate
at lombardi and the emperor imprisoned
him at a castle in eisensheim
and the great ransom was demanded 23 000
pounds of silver and the maram passkind
that the community was not allowed to
redeem him because it says in getting in
the mayhem right you're not a redeemed
captives more than their value because
we're afraid that it would just
encourage the gentiles to kidnap more
and
um
the rush on the other hand as we're
going to see was the primary disciple
maharami ruthenberg he disagreed with
maram he said that for the god of hadar
you're allowed to pay an exorbitant son
so anyway
the 23 000 talents were actually
um
raised
by
a uh
a wealthy man by the name of alexander
wimphim
he paid for the maram's release
and as we mentioned the rush
disagreed with the maram and the rush
personally guaranteed that he would
raise the requisite son some but
unfortunately maram died by
the rush raises the sum the problem is
now the rush is afraid that he's next
and um
they held the remains of the maram
uh hostage
and
the rush basically had to flee to spain
where he died in um 1327.
now the the whole story of when the rush
came to spain
and he tried he was received very warmly
in spain and he was he was uh
elevated to the status of the one of the
leading rob on him but the one thing he
couldn't do is he could not change the
sephardic customs which he attempted to
do well okay so it's very interesting
they tried um when the maram died
that they would not release his remains
until as we mentioned alexander wimfin
paid for the release
on condition that he'd be allowed to be
buried one day right next to the maram
and incredibly although they're very
very few kwaram of re-shining today you
could still go to the cover of the
marami rotenberg and buried right next
to him is alexander wimphim
now
during the period that the maram was
imprisoned
he was very active
shilohs came to him from all over the
world
many of his talmudim were allowed access
into his prison cell
and many of his teachings he taught
while he was in prison are recorded so
for example the tash baits written by a
student of the maaram
the taj mahal says
he records five hundred and ninety
pisces
that maram taught him while in jail i'll
tell you a few of them
one is
by my mousekwitz
you ready for this one you're gonna like
this one
the taj made said what does the word
israel
stand for what's the meaning of it
the taj maid says israel stands for yud
stands for
yaakov
yitzhak
the shin stands for
sarah
the rage stands for rivka rakhel the
aleph stands for avraham and the lamb it
stands for leia israel encompasses all
the avoids
that was one of the revelations of the
marami rotenberg when he was in jail
and
the taj bates
writes and always tough tests above
that the maram taught him
as follows that kisha adam goimer
when a person makes up his mind to give
up his life for hashem the im sarnabh
he gives up his life for the ultimate
challenge
commas
then whatever they do to him hans kilah
whether they stone you
hein srifa whether they burn you
foreign it doesn't hurt
when a person makes up his mind to give
up their life okay
there's no pain involved
and laram brought araya from the
messiah two times in tanakh it says
hikuni
it says hikuni pizza uni he smites me he
wounds me and it says hikuni balcalisi
he smites me
and i am not sickened this teaches me
kesha hey me kuni
that when the hit and they wound
baal khaleesi kalamalai or koyabi it
doesn't hurt that's a tradition that
maram taught when he was imprisoned in
einstein
and the maram brought araya he says
vitae da shikenu i'll bring you a proof
the proof is
there's no one in the
world like is there anyone in the world
they can put their hand in fire and not
scream
no no anyone who puts their hand in fire
is going to scream
but virab maestromatsu
many have given up their life to be
burned
they don't scream not oi
and they don't scream avoid
so this indicates
says maram when a person gives up makes
up their mind to die or kill this hashem
they are not harmed
it's amazing
that
the king of france in the time in 1242
was king louis ix
known as saint louis
not for his piety to the jewish people
but rather for his religious zealousness
which was expressed most clearly by the
favor he showed jewish apostates
saint
louis by the way and that's the reason
why the cardinals have never won
the pennant
anyway
nicholas donan
was a jewish apostate
who is especially vicious to his
co-religionists
and he caused personally the baptism of
the jews of anjoy and potier
500 jews under the threat of death
baptized while the majority of the jews
3 000 and all were all murdered
now this is very important to know
and that is there was a very big
difference between sephardic jewry
and french jewry
while sephardic jewry
there were instances of hundreds of
thousands of forced conversions
in ashkenazic jewry in france
it was a it was a rarity
jews did not allow themselves to be
baptized they sooner were moisture
and the distinction to a great degree
lay in the uh
the hundreds of rishonim that a very
profound influence in france
now there was an apostate
by uh
as we mentioned nicholas donan
he realized that the backbone and the
foundation of judaism was the oral law
of the gemara
and therefore he made a formal
accusation to pope gregory ix
that the talmud contained passages
that were heretical to christianity
the pope ordered
all the copies of the talmud to be
confiscated and in march 3rd 1240 while
the jews were in show all copies of the
shas
were forcefully confiscated on june 12th
a public debate was held in paris
between nicholas donnen and four of the
most eminent robotim in paris rabbi hill
of paris ramos of kusi the smug
and as you can imagine this was a very
fair trial
well the verdict was a forgotten
conclusion before it even began
the talmud would have been burnt
immediately if not for the jews only
ally
in the bishop of sens
his arguments averted the decree for one
year
but at the end of the year the bishop
convulsed and he died in the presence of
king louie
well the priests were able to convince
the king that god had punished the
bishop for defending the talmud the
talmud was contempt to be burned
manuscripts of the talmud were
confiscated
and we have to understand that you know
this this was 200 years before the
advent of the printing press
and a volume of shots could take years
to write
many recently written works so that we
shined them were burnt and destroyed
forever
and
here's what i want to focus on this
morning
when did the burning take place
the burning of the 24 wagon loads of
swarm occurred arab shabbos parashas
the shiboile haleket writes
of the time inquired from the heavens
via
dream which is a way to inquire from the
heavens
to discover if the decree
was indeed decreed from the banisham
and on arab shabbas parshas
they received the following response da
this is the decree of the torah
doug izeros arrives as the targum the
aramaic translation
of the first words of parish
zoys
by the way so to me this is very
interesting in other words if you were
to ask well
what's the reason why hashem allowed the
talmud to be burnt
i would have said the reason that was
communicated via the heavens was
it's a decree it's a heavenly decree
it's a khoik
but i want to share with you another
piece of information because while the
shibale alaket says that they made a
sheila's
came back with a response
that it was a hoik it was doug zera
sairaisa
there was another take on
this
incredibly the tragedy was not viewed
as a mysterious suffering
that the jewish people had to undergo
but there was an understanding it was a
direct punishment and divine retribution
for the destruction of the works of the
rambam
now you have to understand there's a
very big difference between french jewry
and spanish jury
french jewry
were single-minded in their focus on the
talmud and its commentaries
and the study of torah to the exclusion
of all other disciplines including
philosophy and mathematics
the rashi and the toy smiths were
interested in the talmud and the talmud
only
but in spain in spain they were broader
they were interested in
philosophy poetry
art
and many reshine him
especially in southern france actually
more in northern france
but
even though in provence there were many
who defended the rambam but the rambam
had his most outspoken
adversaries in southern france they did
not agree with the rambam's
philosophical ideas in the al-hazagan
ramadan or
and some re-showing them most notably
rob
they put the works of the rambam and
the controversy erupted
and some of the members of the
anti-rambam camp submitted the works of
the rambam to the monks
of the dominican order to determine
whether the works were heretical or not
the monks
were only too eager to declare the
rambam's works heretical
and the works of rama were burnt in
montpellier in 1234 and in paris 1242
writes raphila verona
who was an eyewitness to the burning of
the shas
he says hashem looked down from heaven
and avenged the honor of our master the
rambam whose works
were burned
says rav hillel
the rambam was almost second only to
maisha
and if you ask how can we be sure that
the burning of the talmud was
retribution for the burning of the works
of the rambam
says hillel this is the sign
this is the proof
not even 40 days have passed between the
burning of the works of the rambam
and the burning of the talmud
on the very spot that the rambam's works
were burned they burned the talmud
the ashes of the rambam's works mixed
with the ashes of the talmud
and i tell you the truth
i was thinking about this this morning
and there's something not consistent
over here i just want to mention the
destruction of the talmud was a crushing
blow to the ancient communities in
france
and the conditions worsened rabbi hill
emigrated in 1260 with many of the
french thou sophists and they settled in
akka
and they established the madrishagada of
paris
in eretz israel where
rebeccil of paris is believed to have
died in 1267.
in 1306
the glorious chapter of jewish history
of medieval france came to a close
when king philip ix expelled the jews
from all of france
french jewry that had enriched torah
legacy
from the year
approximately
um 10
um came to an end
french jewry was no longer in a 1306.
so let me share with you my question
this is a brand new question
something is not consistent over here
the shibali haleket says they made a
sheila
to determine why
was the talmud burnt in 1242
and the answer they received is da
gezeras
it's a decree it's a heik it has no
reason
and on the other end rather hello verona
was who's standing there
said
there is no question why did this happen
this is not a mystery in the very same
spot where they burnt the works of the
rambam they birthed the talmud this was
a direct retribution from heaven to burn
the talmud
meet the caniga meda
he said this is the sign this is the
proof
not even 40 days have passed between the
burning of the works of the rav and the
burning time so question is it a heik
or is it a punishment neither can i give
me that
it's a good question
it can't be both
it can't be a haik
and
could it
so maybe you'll say the shibaile
halaquet argues of
the verona i rev hilla verona shiba lake
it
says it's a punishment media
connectivity by the way
rabino yoino took this lesson to heart
and he accepted upon himself
that because he spoke out so
antagonistically against the rambam he
has to do chuva and he accepted upon
himself to defend the honor of the
rambam until he would get to tavaria
and personally beg the rambam
forgiveness at his grave
but what was troubling me again is how
do we
reconcile
that which is
writes that it was a choice
with the report of rav hilo of verona
that it was a punishment
and i think this should take us back to
the para duma
you know on the one hand the para duma
is the quintessential hike
it's
metahim um
i thought i would become wise but it's
distant from me
so even did not know the reason
for the paradigma only mashable knew the
reason
by the way
the uh ben lo ashrie says
kyrah perhaps cracked the code of the
para duma qurach may have known the the
reason for the paradigma
and on the other hand you look at rashi
and rashi quotes from shahadarshan
was one of the sages of narbon in
southern france
and ramos darshan explains the whole
well the whole
um
rationale for the paraduma rama
shaddasha says you know what the reason
for the para duma is the para duma
well
it's matami the tahirim
it's matami the taharim just like the
eggel
it rendered claudius throughout tommy
but it's also
mitami the tahoe it's
the tamayim because they use the ashes
of the para duma to purify
those who worship the para duma
they use the ashes of the eggo to purify
those who worship the ego and the reason
why you have to take three species the
azov
the three ingredients
in the para duma is connected the 3000
jews who died because of the ego
and the reason why
you need allah cayenne to be involved in
the paraduma is because it can't be
arrowing because our own made the ego
and the reason why the para duma has to
be tamima is because khloe saw before
the hedera ego were tamima and the
reason why the parademon cannot have a
yoke on its neck is because cloudy so
cast off the yoke of shamayim so here it
is
doesn't know the reason for the paradium
but
darshan knows the reason for the para
duma
i understand couldn't figure out
that the reason why the paraduma is
matame to holyroom is because the ego
may call you so tummy and it's matahir
to mayhem
because the
eggel was used to purify the jewish
people as well
so what what is the dichotomy over here
it's an exact parallel from the keto ego
so it's a great mystery what was the
mystery what's the mystery of the para
duma well
soma milk didn't know rashi rashi brings
from asha'a darshan
and i think the answer to this question
is a very important principle
and that
is
not every answer
i'm not sure
not every answer
makes a question
reconcilable
there are some things in this world
that so trouble the mind
and
and stretch the imagination
that even though you may be able to give
an intellectual
approach
to
reconcile seeming contradiction it
doesn't mean that it fully answers the
difficulty of the question
the paradum is a great dichotomy you
have someone who's tum a mace and he's
spritched with the answer to the
paradium and that person is tara and the
person who does the spritzing he becomes
tummy say oh i have a very simple reason
because anybody who was involved in the
ego became tame but then they used the
very ashes the eagle to make okay that's
very nice then that might be
a certain level of illustration
of an example of saying which is
but that doesn't make it comprehensible
necessarily
how the paraduma
is able to
operate through this dichotomy
and i think it's the same thing with
jewish tragedy
just because rapidly verona says we know
why the talmud was burnt it was burnt in
the very same spot that the rams were
burnt yes so we know it's quid pro quo
and it's me that can i get meda
that doesn't necessarily make it fully
comprehensible why the almighty would
allow something like that to happen
yes we understand there's a certain
justice and there's a certain rationale
but that doesn't necessarily make it
fully comprehensible to the human mind
it's not a contradiction
for something to be a hike
and for to have elements of reason to it
just because rashi quotes from
darshan it doesn't mean the paradigm is
not the quintessential
a a shot a approach
does not necessarily
make it fully
comprehensible by the human mind
that's what we see from the para duma
didn't understand it and yes
new rama darshan's rush
ramosha darshan's approach does not
necessarily allow
the limited capacity of the human mind
to fully comprehend the dichotomy of the
paradigma
and we could say the same thing about
the tragedy
we could say the same thing about the
tragedy
of
the burning of the talmud in the 1242
just because rapidly verona
gave the jewish people an insight into
why what precipitated it yes it was the
outspokenness of the deuteronomy against
the rambam and that's why in the very
same spot the rams were to burn the
talmud was born but does that really
explain why the bansham would allow the
bulwark the backbone of the jewish
people to be destroyed i mean without
the talmud french jewry was decimated
the whole tradition of the ashkenazi
valley was ruined these included newly
published works of the reshinam so okay
we have me the connected me but that
does that does that really allow
the human mind to comprehend
what was taking place
in the times of
um the tragedy of the burning of the
talmud
we know that there
are various approaches
toward the holocaust
and
it is not my place to offer
interpretation i leave that to people
much greater than myself
my grandfather
zechak lavraka
who
was a survivor of all the dark places
auschwitz and i tell you this morning i
had the privilege to put on philly
my son naftali
nero yaya
and
i myself was very moved because maybe
you've heard the story about my
grandfather but my grandfather smuggled
filling into one of the notorious camps
in terradum and he put on filing every
morning with his beloved brother haenach
and one morning there was a particularly
brutal lager furor and if he would catch
them putting on film they would be shot
on the spot and one morning my
grandfather put on filling out the crack
of dawn that he would do every
morning and then he gave the tvilla to
uncle hainach and uncle put on the phone
and as he's about to put on the troll in
sha rush ficus walked in he sees
this sadiq putting on phone he picks up
the pistol to shoot but then when he got
a good look and that fill in shall rush
he hopped
at sitter he put down the gun and he ran
out in fear
and i heard my grandfather tell the
story
so to me the midst of filling
uh is very important
and to be able to
to put on to my son realizing that i
have this because my grandfather was
moist or nephesh to put onto one in the
darkest places and my grandfather
never questioned hakodesh barco when he
was asked
you know rabbi you saw the massacre of
your brothers and sisters of european
jewry did you ever lose faith in the
promises of the torah do you ever lose
faith in god my grandfather said did i
ever lose faith yes of course i lost
faith i lost faith in man
how could a civilized society like
germany shed their conscience
how could
united states and great britain who knew
the jews were being gassed and they
could have bombed the camps they turned
the other way and they bombed other
areas
so yes i lost faith in man but my faith
in god only became stronger
and
again
i'm not here to give reasons i'm i would
like to share one particular insight
we know in general
probably
the opinion of most leading
sages have been has been
the ways of god are mysterious
the ways of god
are beyond comprehension we cannot
question
um the ways of heaven and we cannot
provide reasons for what happened
from 1939 to 1945.
i had the merit
for many years to go to harav viktor
miller zeke attack levrakha
and he had a different approach to this
issue
and he was very outspoken
that
for the reasons for the holocaust
and
he would say
that
and he would explain this in very great
detail he even uh wrote a book about
this
um
which i believe i
have it's called a divine madness
and he connects it to the origins of
reform in germany
and mass defection from the torah
lifestyle
and because of that
it was sort of a cleansing process and
i'm not here today to inject my
opinion into this great matter
um
israel
i'm just presenting one particular
insight namely
even in a situation
where gedulim provide reason for jewish
tragedy
it doesn't mean it's still not a hike
it doesn't mean it's still not beyond
human comprehension that's
the insight i am offering aniha qatan
here you have the burning of the talmud
where minha shamayim they said it's a
heik it's a statute dog
but at the same time rabbi hillel of
verona said i'm telling you why it
happened it's me though can i get me
that for destroying the works of the
ramba
so that gives us an approach
that even when godoil would say rav
miller would explain particular reasons
for the holocaust that doesn't mean
that oh how could he say that how could
he offer insight into the ways of heaven
that doesn't make what happened
comprehensible to the human mind it's
still to our limited
mind is a like it's still beyond
comprehension
and
again i'm not trying to um take sides in
this dispute
i'm merely offering the humble insight
that the same way when it comes to para
aduma
shloimai hamelach ultimately did not
understand the reason for the paraduma
despite certainly knowing the insights
and the approach of ramosa darshan which
at first glance it helps us
assimilate and understand the reason for
the para aduma
so
certainly shamayim has its calculations
for whatever transpires
and
an important idea always to be remind
and we'll end with this
is
when you see somebody suffering let's
say you see
a poor man
it's not really your job to say well
god made him poor because he must have
sinned and he deserves it so i'll let
him suffer and i won't give him sadaka
because the ways of god are just and
hashem's at sadiq and if the person is
poor then shamayim was going or he's
poor who am i to challenge with no your
job is actually
to say you know
look why the abundant has a calculation
with this person why this person has to
be poor why this person has to have a
sarah why this person is suffering
that's between them and the ribansham my
job is to alleviate the person's plight
so
unless you're a great torah sage and
you're a god of israel
it's your job so to speak to add to in
terms of practice
to say yes heaven decreed they should
suffer
but heaven wants me to alleviate their
suffering
yes there is a philosophical reason why
this happened but my job is not to be
the philosopher my job is to be
the person who tries to mitigate and
alleviate that person's situation
okay rabbi
i will see everybody again in two weeks
no i'm not going to be with you next
monday
we'll be together the monday before tish
above and uh we hope tish above
shabbiness
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