Is Ben Shapiro Helping Israel or Christians?

when he talks about the liberal lefty-minded types of people and how much damage they cause to society. Plenty of things he says are correct. There's no problem with that. Well, thank you. But I wish I wish he would just shut his mouth and stick to those topics and don't even say a single word about Torah because every single word that comes out of his mouth when he talks Torah is heretical. Okay. So the question was, how do I feel about people implementing Bible teaching in schools as a Jew? I think it's great. I think they should. How dare you Catholics work for that dirty rotten Jew, Ben Shapiro. I think, well, you know, that dirty rotten Jew, Ben Shapiro, has given quite a platform to Christians. They don't tell me what to say. They never say, you know, Michael, you need to drop this tenant of your faith. And because of you, the people of Daywire, I became a Christian and a conservative. Ben is this great uh oppressor or suppressor of Christians. He's certainly not doing a very good job at failing. This company is overwhelmingly Catholic and almost entirely Christian. I'll give a little introduction. Dr. Golan Brochi is an author and professor at One for Israel Bible College. Born and raised in a kabutz, which is kind of like a Jewish commune to Jewish parents. Uh he came to faith in Jesus. Dr. Brochi, thank you so much for coming on the show. Praise the Lord. It's a pleasure. Michael, we're living in a pretty dark time. It feels as though a lot of biblical values have been completely abandoned or lost. It seems like people are confused even in many religious circles. He thinks that all Christians, he makes him happy to hear that all Christians will praise their man God. And he actually says Jesus and the name that's forbidden to say. I as a Jew have not only no problem with people saying for example Christ is king because he obviously does not know the law does not know the yeah and you know the kingship of Christ you're not supposed to say it but nonetheless even if we excuse that he's happy that Christians are following what the Torah says is idol worship we've been talking a lot about the decline of religion in America and joining us on the line to discuss is the founder of Word on Fire Catholic Ministries. You've seen him on the show before. He is Bishop Baron. Thanks so much for joining the show. really appreciate it, man. Good to be with you as always. And if that's not bad enough, Mr. Ben Shapiro says he even is humbled by the fact that the Christian missionaries want him to convert to Christianity because they worry about his soul. I think that that's a good thing for Christians to say. I want Christians to do that because I think that for American society, more people need to declare who are Christian that Christ is king and go back to church. And frankly, as a Jew, I'm flattered that you care enough about my soul that you wish me to become one of you. That's that's a lot better than it has been historically where people were coming after people like me with a sword and forcing conversion or forcing death. You know, that that is all not only fine, that is that is wonderful for me. If his stupid mouth didn't say these words, it seems like people are confused even in many religious circles. We all know that Christianity is not a friend of Judaism. For whatever reason or another, this shure, this part of the Torah is like missing in the Torah of the modern and and some kabadik today because they're befriending them like there were BFFs. Even though the founder of of Kabad was very much anti even though the founders of of of uh of modern orthodoxy was very much anti all of this something happened along the lines and today's leaders or rabbis or whatever you want to call them are welcoming the Christians into our own houses our living rooms with no barriers whatsoever and it's gone to the point where it's too dangerous now Ben Shapiro may God help him do chuva but Ben Shapiro is a very smart person that's extremely stupid at the same time. Why? Because while he's given a gift from God of speech, a gift from God from thinking, a gift from God from analyzing, he forgot to analyze his own backyard. Rabbi Goldberg, Boar Synagogue, he wears his yam proudly. He's never ashamed or apologizes. He's always proud to be a Jew, to stand up against anti-semitism in defense of Israel. Ben, thank you so so much for being with us this evening. Reality is when people think of Judaism, Ben Shapiro pops up as a thought. This is a representative of Judaism whether you like it or not. He knows it. Everybody knows it. You can't say, "No, I'm uh I'm not connected to the religion." When you walk around with a keep on and you're that popular by default. When you start talking Torah with the keep on, you don't need anymore further explanations to show how much your opinion has to be validated at all times. So when he says things that are against the Torah like is not forever or that the soul is not sure if it's real or is real, all types of things that are heretical, these are problems. Do do you believe there's a soul or something like a soul of pattern information that represents who you are that floats off the body and goes continues on as so I don't know what I do know and the reason why I'm religious is that a religious lifestyle that that is based on certain fundamental premises I think makes life better for people. Pure reason alone unleashed uh without even those moorings in Judeo-Christianity can lead to a lot of really terrible places. Yeah. The the idea of the afterlife is is a pretty modern invention in Judaism. really it really only crops up historically speaking a little bit in the prophets and it's usually the late prophets and it's and it's really maybe as a response to early Christianity or or Greek thought. So Judaism doesn't believe in eternal hell. So it's instead this idea that there's a cleansing process schmutz it up while you're alive and now there's a cleansing process and then and that's what hell is sort of. So I'm waiting I'm waiting for the Messiah to come in the form of a political figure, right? So the so the the messiah in in Judaism is a guy who's going to come back and is going to establish peace in Israel. Like and in the Jewish view, any person could be the Messiah. Any Jew can be the Messiah in the Jewish view, right? So I could be it. Who knows? But but these are not as much of a problem as him missing the analysis of his own people. Now I looked up his very famous, very well-known company called Daily Wire. Daily Wire has not just him as a speaker, but other people. He has a guy by the name of Michael Nolles, which to my knowledge is a Catholic person, which doesn't necessarily make him a bad person. Just needless to say, this is one of his partners. But then there's a guy that I recognized, a person by the name of Andrew Clayven. Now, I knew this face. I just didn't know from where. About 5 seconds later, I knew exactly where. telling his 10 or 11 minute story of how he left Judaism and became a Christian. Followers of Yoshi. I'm Andrew [Music] Claven. I got the worst possible mark in every class in Hebrew school. And my father used to say, "They can't flunk you out of being Jewish." But I came very close. And you can't know God. He's just too big for the mind unless you know him through Christ who is a man like you. So that means this is not like the other guy that could potentially be a Catholic just believed in his thing. Shapira believes in his thing and kumbaya. We're co-workers. There's no problem being a co-orker of someone from a different religion. But if your coworker slashpartner is a missionary, who's more likely to convert, Ben Shapiro or Dennis Prager if you had to put money on it? Now we have a problem. Why? Because now it shows either you completely lack all knowledge whatsoever of Judaism to the extent that you should never even mention you're Jewish. Needless to say, give a shaw to about it on your radio show and on your uh YouTube page or you disregard the laws of the sages to such an extent that you're a missionary yourself without even realizing it. Grand Canyon University, a private Christian university in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona, believes we are all endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights. Find your purpose at Grand Canyon University. Private, Christian, Christian, Christian, affordable. If your partner is helping the most dangerous institution on planet earth, one for Israel is their naming run by this guy and three, all born Jews, all heretics, all have a number one target of destroying Judaism. I think that we were able to find the the missing key, the lost key, and it's actually pretty simple. It's Jewish and ArabIsraelis explaining the gospel to other Jewish and Arab Israelis in the Hebrew and Arabic language. It's not some something that comes from outside, foreign, different. It's something that we do with our own people. And we do it by bypassing the gatekeepers. We bypass the Orthodox rabbis. We no longer need their permission or approval. We go straight into their own children's phones. Now, they're not like regular missionaries. Their number one job that puts them on on a pedestal above anyone else, aside from their location being in Israel, which is not really a big deal as much anymore, is that their number one target is to destroy the Torah. I'm here to share good news with you. Hearts in Israel are opening to the gospel like we've never seen before. Just in 2024, we had over 20 million views on our Hebrew Gospel channel on YouTube. But that's not the best part. In this year alone, over 500,000 Israelis have subscribed to our gospel YouTube channel in Israel, making our gospel channel one of the top in Israel. Another colleague of the Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro, a guy by the name of Michael Nolles, decides to have a podcast video that reached hundreds of thousands if not millions of people with guess who? One of the top per people in one for Israel. Yes, the very same missionary anti- torah enemies of the Torah organization that Andrew Claven also supports and speaks for at times. Andrew Claven already made a video for One for Israel. That's all news. They want new meat. Who they get? They get another guy. Where you going to find another guy? Let's get another guy from the same organization. The Daily Wire. Yeah, the same organization that's actually founded by a Orthodox Jew. So they get who? Michael Nulls, who on one hand practices Catholicism, but has partnered up with evangelical Christians, which in reality they're really spiritual enemies, at least according to their own scriptures. But nonetheless, you see that Michael Nolles has the same interest as the Christian missionaries, which is what? To convert Jews to Christianity, even though many say that Catholics do not missionize. Well, apparently Michael Mills doesn't agree. So what convinced you other than say the Holy Spirit, you know, our Lord himself, you know, uh what convinced you that Jesus really is who he says he is? So I'll tell you what happened and and you're right that the um the bottom line is that the Holy Spirit opened my eyes. That's the bottom line. But I was I was finding myself in a yeshiva in a school where you where you learn the Talmud. And this is exactly the time where um a Korean friend told me to read the New Testament. You know that certain things are forbidden and you still do it. Surely you hate God. So and while you hate God, I have to hate you. Why you hate my father? You know it's wrong to bring missionaries to you know it's wrong to have partners as missionaries. You know it's wrong what he's doing and you continue to allow this to happen. I have to hate you. But guess what? If you want to do cha, I'll be the first one to welcome you home. I'll be the first one to help you because I want you to do cha. Because imagine how great it would be if we could use all of those people that are currently there and use all of what they have been gifted from Sham to do good to help do. It would be fantastic. But until then, we have to hate them. We don't want to we have to they would change and I will be the first one to do even more shing telling you look this guy did chouba that guy did chouba go to his channel go to his go to his show go to this go to that I wish there's no there's no benefit in having enemies when they're not really against It's only a benefit if it's for self-preservation. Right now, these people that we mentioned are simply destroying Islam one at a time. Some physically, some spiritually, some both. It's important that we know who's right and who's wrong, who's righteous, who's wicked. It's very important. Why? Because that's part of the Jewish ideology. You need to know who your friends are. This gives us a little bit more clarity of how we could avoid the danger that's in front of us because we live in a generation that just like what was said at the end of where was a generation that all day in their hearts they had thoughts of evil. All day thoughts of evil. We live in such a generation. All day people think evil things. All day they do bad things. So we have to pick a few good fruits here and there and try to preserve them as much as possible. If we can make some of the bad ones into good ones, even better. But needless to say, we ourselves have to fix ourselves. And I think it's important for us to know that some sometimes it looks good from the outside. But inside it's rotten. These are the ones that we try to bring to your attention because many people didn't know this stuff. Many people didn't know all the things that we said today. and many of the other things we said in the past. This will bring some more light to the people that are looking for the light and hopefully encourage many more to do cha get closer to Hashem including those people that we mentioned themselves. Amen. Amen. [Music]