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>> Okay. Good morning everyone.
We're going to speak about whether a
nazer is considered a or not. The gumar
discussed somebody who says I'll be
beautiful.
So says that's an example of nazeros.
A
that's says that's one of the of the
asks maybe you mean you'll be
like it says vu.
So the garra says we're talking about
where he's holding his hair.
So the garra has a question nazeros.
How could I be beautiful be a reference
to Nazeros? It can't be a reference to
Nazeros. Nazer says a sin
a
so the garra says
oh yes even according to
who says nazerus is called that's only
another t is called
because since another has to count again
his days are demolished like the pik
says
so we're afraid he's going uh since he
has to count the nazerus again he'll
violate his nazeros and moreover
um he'll be ali and he'll end up
bringing kulen into the if you remember
um
said
that
take a look infus
This is found on base, right? The
Gumar's question was that since Nazeros
is a sin, how could I be beautiful be a
reference to Nazeros?
So says that
one who makes another to become a nazer
is doing a sin and we call it
says
he's doing something wrong.
Is it correct to do this? And the answer
that's only
because we're afraid He'll violate his
nazer since he had a take on the nazerus
a second time. He'll end up drinking
wine. Why? A regular nazer. We're not
worried he'll drink wine. We're we
assume he'll go through with the
nazerus. But we're afraid
is not called a sinner. Fine. That's the
beginning of Tyus. So now Tus has a
kasha.
wants to know.
Normally we say that even
is called a sinner
because he distressed himself from wine.
Meaning this gamarra comes out that only
a nazer is called a nazer is not called
a but says throughout
is called a
right the tinus brings even on
remember the question so says like this
he's a little bit of a but the mitzvah
of nazerus outweighs it so overall he's
called aar
overall is called a
is called a sinner a bit.
The mitzvah overrides the sin. The
mitzvah the sin.
Therefore, overall he's called
beautiful.
It's like somebody who fasts
on that overall he's doing a good deed
by fasting on Shabas.
He needs to fast on Shabas. But there is
an element of sin that he has to repair.
Well, how do we know there's somewhat of
a sin? Because he has to fast a
different day to make up for fasting on
Shabas.
The merciful one calls him a sinner
because he undid his nazerus
undid his
he has to go back and do the nazerus
again
and it's very difficult. ult to sh and
he's going to end up
um re regretting his having been a nazer
in the first place.
And by the way,
there's a uh that's what Shimanat Sadic
said. He never ate from the asham of
another tame because it might not be a
completely legitimate nazerus because
says
okay so that's that's approach to the
okay in holds that is a full-fledged
because since he has to count in a zeros
again it might become very difficult for
him and he will therefore violate it
become and in a way since he's shyness
it's like bringing into the but
overall he's called even though there's
an element of sin okay that's
let me try to get this up here
the rashash explains tyus
where the rash Shash says
what does mean he'll regret what he did
originally
it's like he never made the nazir to
begin with
now I would have said okay he's
therefore his says no says if he never
was then he was
for no reason you see aar even though
he's
and that's somewhat sinful but there is
an overall good reason for that because
he was a
then he's going to regret having become
a and then he suffered for no reason so
he's just a sinner
and there is no mitzvah here that
will be the sin
of distressing himself. That's how the
rash learns. You hear how the rash
understands that
even though he's being
but at least he's getting the so it's
worthwhile
if he's going to regret the so he was
for no reason at all. Bottom line is
a is not
comes the
maybe you'll say since jealousy and
desire and honor is evil and it takes a
person out of the world
eer
I will separate
uh very much
and I'll distance myself to the nth
degree
that I won't eat meat and I won't drink
wine. I won't get married.
I won't live in a nice house.
Maybe I should become an aesthetic. No,
it's evil.
It's a bad path.
element.
The Rambam seems to say that refraining
from meat, from wine, from a nice house,
from nice clothing, you're a sinner. And
we learn it out from a noir. Wait a
second. The Ram's talking about another.
The ram seems to hold even another
is a not likeus
says another
has an element of sin
but overall he's a good guy
and it's only nazer who's a
now I would have one of the mitzvah I
mean what's ram saying a person cannot
be mim
mitzvah.
>> What do you mean it's one of the tar
mitzvah? Which mitzvah is that?
>> Well,
>> I don't know. You asked the question, so
I'm asking you.
>> I don't know.
>> There is a concept of nazir. It's no
question. I mean simply when the when
says you're a is a
um he's talking about
has a no he's only talking about now I
would have said I don't know maybe the
ram can fit into because even conceds
there's an element of in the zeros it's
just that the overall mitzvah maybe
outweighs it but the ram so to speak is
honing in on well there is an element of
sin in becoming a maybe it's worthwhile
for the sake of a mitzvah but if a guy
lives in a decrepit house and wears ugly
clothing where there's no mitzvah
involved then you're just a so I don't
know how compelling it is that the Ram
definitely argues with but the Mishna
feels that the Rambam is a problem here
the says the den
Now,
so he asks on the from the
is
to which
there are those who want to answer and I
think what the commission is going to do
now is show How the Rambam does not fit
with
says the mitzvah is greater than the
sin.
but
this doesn't fit to the
Rambam seems to be saying no you're not
allowed to fast and according tois it's
a mitzvah which is greater than the a
so the mission has a different approach
Then
an interesting approach, very simple
approach.
The parame
is a and yet
is not a
true
even byar.
is talking even about he's not talking
about
the
primarily is talking about there it's an
that calls a nazer is talking about a
nazer it doesn't say explicitly by nazer
that
holds.
Even though
will say no, the only reason the Torah
is talking about the is because he
repeated a sin
because of
that the Ram holds that according to who
holds that another is a he's only
is only.
So basically the Ram disagrees with
according to is of the opinion
is a
is somewhat of a overall the outweighs
it and the Rambam learns differently.
The Rambam holds another is a and
another is a mid
which by the way
is interesting because according to the
Mishna
the Gomorrah had a question the ask
and he's calling himself beautiful.
Yeah, the verse says, "Yeah,
you're only a sinner by another but
is beautiful." Yeah, but the only thing
is the rabbis said that even a nazer is
disgusting.
So I'm not sure how the
I understand how he reconciles the that
the
are
but still how does the explain our shack
of the guy is calling himself
but the thing is he's
that is the approach of
so you have basically is and according
The Rambam learns differently how you
categorize Nazer and Nazar.
That is Shia number one.
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