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okay good morning everyone d
s uh Dadi we have a missish at the end
of the eth
parak and oh the end of the ninth peric
really and the mission said as follows
the mission
says a whose father married him off so
when the was written was
meaningless when he remains living with
the woman Thea remains intact why sh he
keeps her with this condition that he
wants to be bound by the
original a convert that his wife
converted IMI with him so he gave herba
when he married her and now now that
Cuba was as a now he's staying with
her so why is the
obligatory brings says he's only
obligating himself to the Baseline 100
200 the not says even
the fine you ready for
rabha by now you know the CL any day you
learn rer is a good
dayer why does the Mish say that you're
obligated in theba because he married
her with the condition so here's the G
Tony and Samantha they both convert now
he is fival and she's Y and he says y I
am marrying you so y says do I still get
myba so Miss says yeah you still get
yourba you know why he's marrying you
to
uphold the original agreement in other
words when he's staying with her he's
doing so with the stipulation of the
original marriage says Rea let's say
that factor is not true then he would
not be obligated to give herba I don't
understand the guy when he married her
he said I'm GNA give you 200 Z so what
exactly exempts him now why do I need a
that but when he's marrying her and
staying with her he's doing it on
condition of the original Cuba let's say
he's not let's say he's he's turning
over a new leaf and he's marrying her
not uncond conditioner of the original
kba but he should still be bound by the
original kba you know why because he
bound himself back then so why is that
not binding what a guy is not doesn't
have Financial Obligations a gentile is
not financially bound the bound
himself he bound himself to
her so why do I need because when he
remarries her he does it to uphold the
original condition I don't care whether
he wants to or doesn't want to uphold
the original condition he made the
original condition so it's findinding a
GU doesn't have responsibility if a GU
creates AAR if a GU makes a he's not M
of course he's
M so why do I why does the M have to say
why do I even need this and why is
there uh in other words we hold that
rabud says you're even in
the and ra um run says no you're only in
the Baseline what's of course you should
be in the If he if the guy if Tony said
to
Samantha I hereby what's the lon I
hereby declare you husband and wife
until death do your part so Tony said
lady I'm going to give you 200 Z and
another 500 bucks asba so he's he's
Bound by that why would R why would run
say he's not bound by
theba are not don't have to keep the
word that's what
became oh so maybe you'll say yeah Tony
obligates himself to semantha
but Tony never obligated himself to
spra and Tony's obligated to Samantha
but F's not
obligated but of course I'm sure you
remember from earlier on in the from we
learned
that only applies to those things
that Jews and go are different in so
then we say regarding this area you're a
newborn person but if in this area there
is no difference between Gentile and Jew
you don't say
that was we actually learned it
in that the rule
of is not across the board namely what's
the if a man and woman have
children and then they both convert do
they have to have children again it's
not P that they have to have children
again why not why don't we
say even though it
is the answer is because since
even though they're not by the way G do
not have a MIT maybe they only the
mitzah but they have some element of the
Mitzvah so regarding this area we don't
say because since Gentiles are
performing a Good Deed by procreating so
it's not like they revolutionize their
identity in the area of procreation so
we don't
say when it comes to
likewise the same
way do if if Tony is Ming himself to
Frank does Tony have to pay of course so
regarding M there is
no I do not
know forget
about why doesn't the obligation from
the time that he's a go stand
where do we ever see that a cannot be
himself
financially I Dr AI wants to say G is I
would G does not apply
here does not apply
here question I have a
question if let's say a g let's say a GU
borrows money from a 500 people and he
doesn't know what to do they're about to
arrest him so he said I have a great
idea I'll
you know they come they say hey pal you
owe a lot of people money no that was
Tony I'm fival
now he doesn't owe the people money
anymore
CU by the way most besides as far I said
is only
between that's a different Factor but I
I always like the fact that I mention is
is uh I like to use a lot that g is only
if in that area you're different than
you were as a guy fine so that's the
what is answer no
answer so we come to the
saak the sa bakov was written
by he asked the same
why wouldn't this be even in the
addition that he wrote to her
why let's say this guy would obligate
himself for a harlot's fee he would he
would also be
obligated yeah it's impossible to get
out of this
you can't say that a g when he converts
it exempts him from his financial
obligations you'd have a lot more
converts says the N listen to this
Whopper when a husband writes a Cuba to
his
wife what is he obligating himself in
he's he's saying if we remain married
and the only thing that stops it is our
divorce or my death I'm going to give
you
akuba but let's say they don't remain
married let's say the marriage is
dissolved does he obligate himself in
auba you can make a very strong case
he's obligating himself in auba he's
saying I marry you and if this is ever
if I am the cause of it's sensation I'll
pay you but what if the marriage does
just
dissolves doesn't have to give her a
Cuba when this man converts he's not
married to her
anymore if he's not married to her he's
not in her original Cuba he only
obligated himself to give her a kba if
they remain married until he divorces
her or he dies but in this case they did
not remain married because by his
conversion it dissolves the marriage
wow that's only if the marriage is not
dissolved until the day they
die they don't have isos but they have
something
called he she was lived with by the
husband and that binds her
the truth is their marriage is not
dissolved until they
die as soon as she converts she's like a
newborn
person so you say oh I don't owe you
because you're a different person no
that's not what he's saying he's saying
that chin he's a new person
she's permitted to someone
else they made a stipulation I will pay
you if this marriage ends because I
die yeah but in this case that's
provided the marriage continues until
then but the marriage was dissolved
before it was dissolved before meaning
he says listen I I'm going to marry you
now and as long as the marriage is not
dissolved until I die I'll pay you but
the thing is in this case the agreement
was not adhere to they agreed to be
married until until he dies and it
wasn't uh it wasn't fulfilled because it
was dissolved
earlier in this case he would never
obligated himself in that
situation when he takes her back
the original was
abolished that is you know there are
always many ways to answer a
question this question when you hear the
answer this is the
answer can I can I can I ask a question
about a different Mahal to answer a
question perhaps do you have a different
I mean I was thinking about it I'm sure
there's an issue with it but I but I uh
many
okay
that was taken on and that survives so
he's clearly to
her is that is in the nature
of with all the that apply to so for
example or the other of so is not the of
M that clearly because as you said a can
take upon himself of M uhuh but this
actually is treated as a Cuba so for
example if he has children with her
they're going to be entitled to the Cuba
been indifference even whereas if it
just is treated as a regular fight that
was taken on at some point in the past
presumably it would not have
to for example maybe there's other know
okay but in that case in that case why
would RAV
say that he's not obligated in the to
in other words it can't be that the is
certain
because uh we actually Pas that the
agreed upon he's not you don't have to
pay the to why not he obligated himself
in it
originally so that that that indicates
that the financial obligation originally
did
cease right I guess youd have to type it
that he is
what what turns itself into the is
only so you're going to say even RAV
would say you
are just a thing I guess
but yeah pasas I mean the gamar quoted
ABA right that you're not in the it
means you're
not yeah
yeah who who is this what's your name
Jonathan oh Jonathan how are
you
for the
M but like let's say for instance even
the that you
are for the toas let's say rabi Huda
I think everybody agrees you're not from
the original date
right you're not I think everybody
agrees that it's a new obligation and
you're not for that original date
because that ceased but you would say no
you maybe you maybe you are K from the
original
date
umer to whether you're from the original
maybe you could still say you're not
from the original date because there's
some there's
some other words I don't know that why
that's usually exclusive to this
question about
about's question is
really I mean there's clearly a not
Nance between a regular and a ofba so
that's why was thinking along this Mahal
because the answer to
that it turns into obligation which is
maybe different than but I hear the
question about how do you
explain the
of Cu you know the way the way the asked
the question is a bit more than rabar
rear just says I don't I don't get why
the mishna needs the logic
ofas but Theus adds that why would you
not be in the to right that's an added
PR right which is pretty compelling
question in other
words
um by the
way
the
being being um dependent on the area
of what you're speaking about in other
words it's not across that we
say
there's talks about why have a hard life
so thear wants to know um thear says
well maybe it's because they don't keep
the they didn't keep
the to which the gar says well why that
would why would that be a
reason and thear gives other reasons
maybe uhar gives a whole bunch of
reasons the question is the the T who
held it was because they didn't keep
the he he he doesn't argue on the
of it's just that he holds that does not
apply to to
the because regarding the there's no
real difference between Jews and G so
regarding this area we don't
say it's a very interesting topic it
happens very relevant to sh but you see
here in theas he doesn't want to just
use G it's
only the Gus gu dissolves the marriage
so now he no longer is obligating the
okay RAB that's what I got for you
today thank you very much thank you call
see you bye oh guys I think I have to do
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