Tznius Issues With Immediate Relatives - Rav Zev Smith

all [Music] like to welcome everyone learning in a family setting sporing 718 851 8651 email.com Smith today is like they say timely and Timeless it'sa every day every shabas especially Y is coming and children and grandchildren are coming with them and we have a host of these type of shist whether it's singing Mar with the children boys with girls is it m to say a when a young girl is running around with night gown with a short with his short sleeves or it's not the right making a saying Kish when there's someone that has a dirty diaper so as we'll see it's really three sugas but it's really one sug if you learn it properly the says in when went to war and the bur of course is needed to help them survive so the one your encampment has to be Hal so here we're talking even to soldiers fighting for their lives and a situation but you can't Overlook that there has to be and it has to be don't forget when he explains this is of making in in a presence of of he says because theid one of the is we all know how important that is the on this says if we want the to be in our midst we have to be careful and don't forget who were who are the soldier who were the soldiers as tell us if they had even they wouldn't go to war I always say the Army was and yet if there's a lack of if there's a lack of of Kad the leaves I heard this heard it from a son of the who was there in the all the famous pictures of the was from that there was a they had a big big room and the women were upstairs in the in a balcony and some felt they should put up a even though the women are separate but should be other say let them see it's not no so they so he heard the question and he started learning a in and he said this he says if you want the more the more we came here to to bring kadha to the world if we put up a that we don't need it we're better off but no doubt about it we have two that we find in this from gim all the way to P very about these two both of them are don't forget a person is also to say in the presence of now we have to be make this clear once and for all when we say the word in any of the today it includes learning t daving kishma or even a to say in front of a Dirty Di presumably is because that's a violation it goes all says like I told you that this is not just saying in the presence of is in fact the says it if a person said a and didn't bother checking if the diaper was clean or not and there was a reason to suspect the diaper was dirty since he violated the he would have to say over the because this is an an interesting ex then the second is and this also kishma now of course doesn't mean AR and a lantern is a lantern means even if there's a glass in between the person and the ARA but now hopefully this is very very rare but we do have it in two place which bring highlights the point a person's alone but he's not dressed how do you know he's not now let to take off truma now why not what's going take off truma CU you can't make a so even a person's alone and he's not dressed make says to sayma as an is the same is so here we have two and from now on we're going to refer to it as the ISA of which means and the is of which means both now I'm sure you notice what's obviously missing is where's the of talking about singing zirus with a with with boys and girls together in a family setting who said that's us who this please keep that in mind and this since the in Praises a voice so obviously there's a and therefore stimulates and Tak inim the there are many different examples one of them calls I heard some went to he said what really sent them off to is listening to music especially K it's a terrible thing very destructive but we should notice something that's obvious unlike the ISA of of of kadus and that's Thea is only it's not that the now the big question which is going to be NE for the rest of the sh is true let's say you a person listen to a woman singing we're going to call that the in other words to listen to a terrible but right so a person listen to the next question let's say he he and he wants to make a is there an I'm G to call it is there an to make a in other words forget besides Evan is there also a is both is an is on on the woman that's and you so there are two different how P that is and the question is there an of saying a when you hear a woman singing so we'll say what's the sh but the EM says who told you the gor that introduces the is of K is talking about the and that's why the and that's more CL in the Torah that does not mention in Simon an Isa to make a in the presence of of of K obviously the T like his father that there is no to make you see the obviously is but this doesn't say so according to the rush singing mirus mixed would not be a problem now of course we don't hear someone else's wife singing or someone else's daughter that's the Evan but singing with my family should be perfectly M however most beginning with it doesn't make sense if the stles then you have the of saying in the presence of so we have a fundamental is there an of saying how do we so listen to the of will soon see that kishma kishma when there uncovered hair of a woman one of the early C giml obviously the m is not so convinced that is but to make is only now this would explain another I found two and calls both of them let's say a person he's living with he's in an office whatever the case is and is unavoidable the women are singing he can't stop them so what should what should we do not learn a whole day not make if it's unavoidable you could be and learn and make is not even talking about he's talking about let's say a person is he has woman singing and he has to and he has and he has to make a br he can't go anybody else soon he you could be make I The Plea is if someone is in a place let's say Rutenberg was in jail for a long time and there was no Plumbing so me there was a problem so what did he do I imagine he didn't make a you can't make a was no other choice right if you can't you can't so why when it comes to Kal if there's no you allowed to do it what I mean ter say if would be so there's no but since only if it's only and I must mention if let's say someone heard he said I'm not I'm not I'm not and he said kishma he has to repeat the kishma not a joke it's but if this no other choice so then we say avoid it like the says try to avoid it if you can't avoid it ignore it and say and learn and say the so here we have the the of and is applies to all also applies to all now let's apply so let's say someone and the windows are open and someone's walking by someone's house and he hear some a woman singing which of course shouldn't happen so he should walk away very very quickly that's Evan now question let's say someone is in a a girl's camp and they girl singing and he wants to make a so if he could wait it's better should wait of course he has to worry about the singing in the background but let me ask you this question let's say he wants to make a he can't wait too long would it help stuffing up his ears put his fingers in his ears or his earlobe an earbud you could put in so what's the sh so if he doesn't hear any evil what be right so not only it would help for the Evan as is if he doesn't hear the woman singing maybe it would help for the as well after all he doesn't hear the so the EMS is not so fast let's say someone is right next to a dirty diap I'm in it when I say mean does it help closing your eyes let's say a person is Con so we soon see his POS that closing eyes doesn't help so why by coil do we think it helps if you close your ears the answer is for us today it's why I think so because the and it doesn't help closing your eyes or and ignoring it but the if he hears no singing There's No both say that if you're in a place of Kisha so St you should worry about the Aza issue you shouldn't hear a sing but as far as issue if you stuff your ears and you don't hear it you can make it bro even though he's in the presence of a because it's right there but if he doesn't hear it it would be M now practically have to know how you have to make sure the logistics workless he wants to make a he has to hold the food in his hand so has he stuff with with or if you hold that like some sheets you have to wash your hands after you put your hand in your ear so you're not really gaining much so you'll work out the logistics but let me put it this way a deaf person could make a a blind person can make a okay next question I course you was not so simple let's talk about a situation that you're allowed to hear a woman singing whether it's an is that's not an or a daughter so the assumption is that that if there's that those those relations close relations you allow to hear them singing so when a daughter is singing even though she's a big girl there's no Isa of now my question is can you make a when you hear a daughter singing in the background in other words if the go is singing so you have two problems you can't hear a singing you have tell her to stop and also my question is your home cleaning for PES and your daughter in this cleaning background she's singing and you want to make a shakle is there an for me to make a or any when there's no because it's my close relative again so you might say well just like and can't say krishma even though it's only him so maybe here also there shouldn't be a problem so the question is when there's no is is there simple question so the EM you think about it it should be a problem because the point is has to be made when it's in a if there a in the background even though it's not of me to hear it but it is a which like a short sleeve is also the same so three one after the other that makes this spout even if there's no or as because it's a close relative they still be because it's two different two is and is so we established to Su literally even if there's no Evan there could be so here we have this big and now let's move on so when you're home cleaning for p and your wife your daughter to sing in the background and you're also cleaning so let them sing you want to make a br you have to know what do you know I told the if your mother sing in the background you want to make a so you leave the house so don't tell your mother to stop singing I know a friend of mine he met a nebor besides being the was was and he asked his neighbor tell me about B Al I'll tell you a story that I saw when I was a little child it was early afternoon Al came home for the afternoon went to the door and ran away from his house so I was worried he waited went to the door and ran away a second time so I said rash what's going on here he nothing I want to know what's going on it he said I'll tell you you I came coming to my house to rest up in the afternoon and I hear the the cleaning lady lady and she's singing I can't go into the house if I go and she's going to stop singing But you sounded so content I don't want to disturb her so I ran away now it's his house it's his lunch break but so certainly if your mother's singing I told him you want to go learn learn go B don't stay home and dominate the house now how you deal with with your wife I'll leave that up to you but in the presence of a wife or a daughter is a problem even if there's no Evan now the next question is which relations are so that's a mother singing a grandmother a daughter a granddaughter and a wife that's the now this is there's Ace with an uncle boy and girl cousins is POS brother-in-law with a sister La that's a regular that are so basically it's only the the direct the relationships the close relationships what's challenging is question of a sister now sister is somewhat in between yeah let's say your home cleaning for p and your sister singing there's no because no but the question is the EV so a sister is is is tricky because there's no with a sister and be very careful even though we all know quoted ver that that sister very uncharacteristic is but as the pre points out bottom line there's no is it's worse than Isa they say if the ra calls it they say it's worse than is fine but there's no so we see by by aister there's no there's no that's but it's only right but not I'm sorry should have mention that so like that you just said there is so but a sister is not entirely like a mother there isn't is so but what's logical to say is if so how could which is be any worse now that rol who had a big Seminary girl Seminary said he asked and told him it's to hear a girl a sister singing even but this is hard to understand didn't qu but he makes that that a sister is not really an ER in these regards plus it's only how could that be worse than also seems to hold but I found the thorough discussion there a wonderful so he proves conclusively that hearing ass sister sing should not be awesome he says there's an said so he struggles so he tries to figure that out but he has a Tru so we have so it really makes sense that if there's no which how could it be of of but what all agree don't forget even if there is no but there definitely an is of because even and is so the M person's home along with his sister she's singing he can let her sing he wants to make a br either stuff your ears or go out of the room now the big question a global issue I'm just going to mention that is the question of a family singing theing so I'm talking about that there's there's no Outsiders and no brothers-in-law that complicate this in other words let me be clear it's mix singing but it's only brothers and sisters and the father and daughter and granddaughter there's no guests and there's no brother-in-law that is hearing his sisterin-law sing which is a problem so it could be a couple a young couple if she's ter could be an older couple but I'm talking about it's mixed but there's no Evan as a problem whatsoever you look around some you have a a brother-in-law you have an uncle so it's a problem I'm talking about there's no Evan has a issue the question is is there an problem because he's singing so the EM is is that considered now is very don't get me wrong but is is is sh nothing changed and that's why many that even if there's no EV as a issue but in other words if a girl wants sing a Sol M and only family so you can let her sing No EV but singing with her brother her father her grandfather whatever it is is the problem and Tak in many homes the minic is the girls don't sing do many homes that the girls and boys when there's no Outsiders do sing and the question is why I remember a long time ago and he said in other words really thises to be but it's hard and I'm going to try to explain what I think he meant a girl that cherishes her and doesn't want to sing in front of boys even her brothers the question is like the says to tell a girl in a formative years Z Mir and not part of the shabas suda he says that's not good for her she's going to feel left out and as he says you have to give her and a to have a shabas sud and he feels that it should be M and it should be encouraged girls have to be part of the SH now the question is but you can't be you can't make I think this important so therefore I'll discard the but think about it it's it their art do be make first of all unlike the and Kad this is at most and the there's no maybe the is to include the girls and give them the that they should have an maybe that overrides it but there's more to it there are more quoting the and and this is quoted what do is a woman singing how could that be so that that it means a relative that is allowed to sing a daughter a wife so since you get used to it so is no because the is her if he's used to it it doesn't bring her so he learns up that the of singing Mir with the relative is based so now the the EM is I must mention the the spells it out I feel so if you want to find a to allow girls to sing together with relatives there's no Outsiders it's this but however the is that is that the because we could bo means when she's talking a person that's talking is also an Isa that's talking could also be stimulating especially if she's a little dramatic and she's a you know she's making a speech whatever it is so many learn the learn means regular speech even if it's a little animated but they have a CO why should that be M and the is like I told you one's called Bea St so then why should it be M so he says he doesn't believe is but he says did sing with the family what's his so it's a little to me but he says we could rely on this situation even though to rely on that you have a a choir of a girl singing but in this case he says besid it's only and ACC to if you ignore it and you don't pay attention you could be M so this what he feels the is it's part of the and you could rely on that's a very what I was think was thinking I found this someone says this maybe we'll say if you say it's a problem but let's see maybe doesn't have the identity of who gave you the right to take and consider it so tell me if you like this analogy this is sh if you have boys in the house wakes up a minute before the last manma Quick what should I do say krishma right he didn't say yet say once miss his mind so we all know the convenient that if you're saying whether it's by or kishma or any other to say without because you're identifying it not as but as okay maybe that would apply toir but the EM is the the the the comparison is strained because you're not saying it's O you're saying it's the but here what are you doing you're saying it's it has imagine someone sing mirr in front of what are you doing I'm not I'm not considering there it's you can't make into so that's why it's hard to say that I did see rash is quoted that if you sing mirrors that don't have either don't have either shameem and or doesn't have if there's no and it's not a then you can be then you could say it's not it would be a but obviously the implications if it does have shame and if it does and the other ones would be a problem now Falon he has an interesting analogy it would be like we wake up in the morning we watch and we say even though maybe but if there's no and there's no it's no it's like so I want to be very clear this is this is a a a global issue the a those that hold that the of the children are important then that we based on a combination you know it's so none stand on their own two feet you can't say I'm because yes yes you can't say I'm because not all agree but if you add up all this there would be a possible now some things are unnoticed a family have a wonderful minat it's a good for the children to bench properly they all sing the benching together and they sing with a camp a real kakad is a song but that's an oversight that's wrong Bening is how could the girls and boys sing together now you might rely on only or maybe T but you can't compare that to Le so some families have the meing that everybody the whole family all the people say KES if you say kdes there no problem if you zing the Kish sing the Kish same problem Kish someone asked me can a girl sing say or sing man so the EM is if she's singing a solo no one's singing with her and it's only relative that there's no Evan as a problem so it can't be a problem it's not worse than a niggan the problem is let's say she has has a brother-in-law there that's a so someone say ah I told him he thought I was holding but I'm not because the points out something startling says a woman should be able to l m man because we both have the same but called the said that's why women are not allowed to say kades in ours CU if they just say the kades no but if they say the Kadesh with a he calls that's already so obviously a full-blown so if the Manan is said as a nigg so you have to be careful it shouldn't be any any EV as a issue but regarding was asked he says you think in my house the girls didn't sing and it was even M by so he must have been I guess on the fact that it's what I say that like the regarding that's the way it concludes regarding so those that are that the girls should not sing because of a there to that those that are make the girl sing should they have a feeling of shab there a s for that but now a tricky question is what age does this is apply a girl a three-year-old girl is singing is that already a problem is it totally in Mitzvah what's the age so Thea will soon see regarding has that all dressing begins at the age three but it's logical to say regarding which is only you could be mled with the SE that hold that the age is six or seven I soon explain where I got the age six or seven but we could definitely say that a girl that's singing under six you could be more Mel we soon see why but himself says her father hearing his daughter singing even before the age of 11 is not a problem someone asked me he's in a girls Camp his wife works in the girls Camp what does he do about them the girl singing you now that's part of the camp so try to find a a better place to learn to to learn ter when the girls are singing constantly it's you know you want to have but truth be told if he has no other a he can't leave whatever the reason is so we have we have the that since only as M explains it if there's no other choice he should just ignore the singing and concentrate on the learning the second Su is the Su of our homes Shine from but it could happen shabas there's a young girl running around just woke up and and slept in and a gown whatever and the short sleeve um sleeve or the dresses the the the Gown is not below the knee a young child that's not dressed what saying in their presence unfortunately we live in a d par you got on a bus train or plane and you're sitting next to an Isa that's again uncovered hair short sleeve shirts low neckline what do you do you want to learn on the bus you want to you're safer with the safer they say you want to learn so that's CL that the real is which hopefully is but we're talking about what the in expands the of and that in other words the but it's it's a not dressed properly again short sleeves short dress uncovered hair short neckline so M explains this is not why understandably because maybe they they hear soal expanded the to refer to as that area that's uncovered now here too we have like we said there's the EV issue that is has to dress properly and there's issue if I am next to someone who's not dressed properly so they're so therefore we have to apply this so that's that to make a in the presence of is in the if he did make the and he was was wrong he would have to repeat the he's not the question is what age girl does this is apply do we say it's to in in three years old like so here we come to that in quotes the that's in almost probably 250 years ago and he says nearly POS that the is of by a girl is 3 years old like by a father will soon see why it's 11 has but this is his and it that dressing a girl properly begins at three that's but me and you the is of begins at ag3 now this is qu it and as early as he he wonders and he says since only iser it's not is and a girl three years old and above is there any hearer so he says it doesn't make sense that it's not an is so when does the what is the age in other words if you look at she's a young baby a baby but you say oh you're a big girl it's totally under perception is quoting that he asked what age is that so he said approximately seven years old me in other words on the child's development now devel is more a little bit and they say the age six or or seven that's what a lot of Pim say the but we do understand that in many homes the girls begin dressing at 3 years old that's that's those that are make the girls could run around with a short sleeve dress at over three would be this head said that also said that like the buta we could say that in a public place especially if many people in that at 3 years old so it's it's wrong to bring in a daughter that's not dressed properly over three cuz for them they have a they have a that it's a problem but one thing we will say and that is that those at are make you have the age of six or seven but let's realize that beyond that that it's both an EV as a issue and an issue the big that the himself adds is is until 11 now he bases it on but that's his but clearly for a rest of other girls we have the this same and question let's say you have a situation ofish on a boss train or for some reason someone's have a guest in your house and they they a married woman came for the S not religious and they didn't cover the hair whatever the case is we have a real tea issue does it help closing your eyes so you'll say I see no evil I want to make kiddish there's woman's here I'm not going to send her out I'm not going to make kiddish in a different house does it help closing my eyes so the will say well you see no evil right more so we helped by uh K Isa and the EMS is this a child that is almost unavoidable train plane bus you want to travel and this women in the vicinity that that have so the EM is that is I'll call it an AA how could you say krishma in that situation but as we said since it's only it would maybe we could say if you don't see and there's no here it's so if you said that but listen to where we started from the B and Sim the end of sim based on a r and that's the way Pas in the end of sim that if there's an eror connected he means literally in a and he turns his face the other way or he closes his eyes or it's night and he can't see or he's blind so even in a real why and you don't see it so even by helps however it doesn't say if there's an eror in your presence this the same is and that's Tak when and the biggest r why not let him take off Trum and close his eyes and make a it shouldn't be visible but here is the I guess we could say the LIF saving COA that M and cive quotes that that is that's only us here then if there's no other you could be expands that and he says this is his phrase which means if you look into the s that you're saying from and you keep your eyes focused on the or you look in your gar and you keep on learning and keep your eyes your focus your gaze is fixed to something else that is equivalent to now this is a lifesaver you're traveling on a plane bus or or or or train and you want to learn but in the streets today it's the parts where what do you do the is either close your eyes or which is difficult to learn so so long without opening your eyes look in the gar and keep your eyes focused gra hero is even in the worst scenario of as opposed to Herer in a place where this there the does not say the same that even her is awesome but getting back when a person has a situation of so again there's a guest in the house you can't make Kish else with so either close your eyes or look in the in the S and say the BR someone I saw this I mentioned the other week someone told the that he comes home B his M his mother doesn't cover her hair but when he bench he turns the other way and he bench is facing the wall gave you want a bench good look in the S close your eyes don't turned around and be now the last group of questions in a certain sense is the easiest and the most challenging because it's the most common and that is a place where obviously there's no difference a boy or a girl's diaper or relative SOA here's a common scenario you finally round it up the family you're about to make kids took you 20 minutes till everybody's ready and someone say I think y needs a diaper change so typically they pick up the baby drop the other side of the room and run back quick quick well that doesn't really help now let me explain so basically the m has a number of SE on him we're not going to doas but I'm going to give the Practical guidance when they is in our even here is a it doesn't help closing your nose closing your eyes it's the has to be even if there's no coming from it but it's not now more so and I invol if you should have checked you had a you had an inkling that might be but you didn't check and you made a you have to you have to make the again you why suff the I you should have been more careful but we see one coolera in a glass en casement every why so this is the one Co that we have regarding and that is if it's covered Hally covered it's like a different if it's covered and there's no R coming out of it that would not be your it's not your concern this is a lifesaver for those that have a catheter and they're constantly having problems but the catheter is the K it's the the um the is of today and it's clear and you could see it but there's no no regarding this is so here we have a relief that even though it's the most but a covering helps so what I put together a number of I'm just going to quote says it most clear I found others say it as well that diaper in itself is not a a diaper disposable especially a cloth is is the same thing absorbs the waste so it becomes a graph sh graph sh becomes like like the waste even a clean gr Tre is awesome so he says that's on a child and yes you know I'm talking about there's something there so you can't make a because the diaper and the adds up to be a problem but he says but let's say the child's wearing a bagette over the diaper and there's no R so that would be a a and the could be said that's the way that's way he makes it this now if you have a place with with children so occasionally you have to check now soon you don't have to check every time but if you're sitting a long time long suda and by kides he was fine but before benching make sure that there's no problem what's also posed I should mention that if the diaper only has so is only when it comes [Music] out that after came out is only so a diaper that soil even the diaper itself as long as that there's no you can make a in that presence because it's not doesn't have the of the now explains that this is only when there's no of the coming [Music] out a once there is a problem of a we that's a it's coming from something so you have to so the dump the child in the corner besides it's a little child abuse but besides that it's not it's not proper because if the child has a problem and it's within it won't help so take an extra moment change the child now if you put the child in a different room again I'm not talking about the child abuse dumping in a different room but if T the do closed then that's a perfect because it makes it to if the doors open and you could see the child or the problem then it doesn't help because of is a problem someone asked interesting sh you're on a bus and there's a child sitting next to you not your child what do you do about making you can't change a child not your child you don't know what's doing says this and I saw says this also but his he says it most the most CL that if there's no then it's aake you could be make first maybe there's nothing there maybe maybe it's contained he's wearing clothing so basically when you don't have any any coming out you could be that it's okay and you can make a or or learn do you have to check before you say when his child running around with a diaper so if there's you're better off but the question if there's no just a diaper So It's Tricky when you learn you might be misled [Applause] but is a problem is okay but if this children you had a problem so that why might indicate that whenever you have a child in the house you have to check the child before you make a but the say not really because since we have a diaper that does contain the r and often he's wearing a but even if not who's you still have that because if is not within you and it could be it's clean so Stam child if he has a proper maintenance you could be assumed Stam child you don't have to check a person's traveling on a highway and you has to change the baby's diaper there's no Road stop in in in the in the in the near vinity so how do you continue learning listening to a whatever it is that is a dirty diaper so here there's no het even of here and here it's in your so there a simple put the diaper in a bag that doesn't have the hole in it so the re is contained close the bag properly so that would be like a it's not a gra for getet it's a if it contains the then you're okay a few more sorted questions any child that has a diap is it a problem so you all remember theor a child that doesn't eat a of you don't have to be from his diaper now this is hard to Define what do that mean which what age is a child that could eat a kaz's so the in the says under a year you could be that it's not I guess in those days they didn't give baby food to a child under a year old the seem to be convinced that a child of 3 months and above could eat baby cereal it's process better it's easier it's to digest I have seen a three months and above the also says this even eight days old and eight days even just it was talking context of a so eight days so I would like to say the following under three months you could definitely be make if you have aor that's you know hard enough to manage with a new baby you could tell under three months don't have to check the baby's di even something there it's okay over three months there and if you could be from it's even to change the Charles diap [Music] right you now to hold something when you're daving because your your frager might drop it and you're concentrating on holding it properly more than the daving now this is POs to davra or any part of daving holding a child is improper because you're not concentrating now if a woman's Home Alone the baby's crying there's no other choice okay ain't done but to D and holding a child is wrong also holding a child when you benching should be a problem say that we treat Bening like so benching is not a Time To Hold Your an or child Etc touching requires that's now this is a big I'm just going to mention the the question is children younger children are usually more exposed they don't have they don't have sleeves they have short pants and you touch a child in a for adults but it'sa for a child so many place can say well the problem with M vers Mula is because if it's covered it's sweaty and it's a problem so if the child is exposed it's it's clean if it'sa for children that age then it's fine there are two that why many people number one some say that touching the the legs is a problem of r r is not totally in a so presumably even a child's leg should be a problem more so some hold that when you you when you judge the concept of mul you don't break it up into adults and children it's cross the board and was and he held once it's a you should be more M but at least you should know before Ben before ding it's to wash your hands because it's very common and one I wanted to mention someone asked me this is he has a a niece coming for he and she jumps on his his lap when does the apply to a or any other relative any other person who's not a relative so we said begins at 3 years old that that's the the is of we said six or seven he says that all agree the begins at three years old and he spells it out 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