The Age Of Chinuch For Mitzvos - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

foreign [Music] foreign [Music] this past summer someone asked me a simple question but it was a nice not simple dancer his child there was a younger child at eight nine years old who fell asleep and did not hear Abdullah matoya Shabbos is there an Indian that he should make Abdullah Sunday morning he never saw that before but then again he also missed my ear does he have to make up the marriage that he missed and as we see today we have a host of questions spanning the entire archaim and some of the aradaya but basically the questions are going to come up and we have to clarify first of all when is the age of so we all know that a cotton under Bar Mitzvah as the mission says another is Perry K Michelle's essay limits with less than 13 years old there's no on a child to any of the mitzis explains this simply put he is incapable unable to do mits because he's lacking the enough intelligence to perform the mitzvahs now this is the biggest side which is if someone can't do that is and as we often say every then you could do it to reverse them obviously felt that a cotton under Bar Mitzvah doesn't have enough intelligence so now we could Wonder so where did the come from the Torah says they can't be makhive and their abundant will say that's a lot of the there are bonans there are bonus heir to the Torah but I think we could do better than that let's follow mini gistro and answer one question with a different question there is it on the child or maybe more logically as we understand it on the father a father and perhaps the child so if we hold on the father so you can't ask Akasha to tell your path to the child very good but there are born on Makai of the father together so it's not a steer but we could do even better and now let's besides the fact that the first question answers the second question answered the first well here's the third question what exactly is the objective the purpose of the mitzvah on a simple level and that's why we understand it you have to get they have to get the child used to doing mixes he can't shake Lula Vanessa when he's 30 years old if he didn't do earlier so the younger years of practice it could also be maybe even more simple it's just Unthinkable but for 13 years he lives like a guy and all of a sudden he has the world the Mitzvahs so it's not just training him in the details of the Mitzvahs but it gets him used to doing mixes that he wakes up he has this Mitzvah and the omtive is this Mitzvah so it's not just practice and how to do the Mitzvahs but it's practice in living a life of mitzvahs or maybe we could say and maybe they're all true it's not just a to get some place to train them how to do it is an ends for itself in other words to give to put the caduceus and you fill his heart and hashama with Mitzi has no room for St Joseph so it's not just the training for later it's the positive effect that we give him mitsu is to do the difference is that his father Isa but it's simply put to to put mitches into the child's life so the MS is that really is all over America that's in six places but was I think most important to focus on the gamaran sukkadaf members actually the mishna members now right away it sounds like who's the crevon foreign so it seems that not that it's on the sun it's on the father maybe it's both it's not a sphere the father has to do it and make sure the son does it but whatever the case is that basically the if you understand the father that might explain that the terror path to the child independently and maybe we could say that the sun on his own can't do it that's why he's part of it but if the father is behind him supporting him and helping him so that keeps them both but the truth is you look at the gemara you'll see a lot more than just the mishna hey Dale he knows how to put on the talus hi lishmirtz villain s villain oh here already it seems to be akivan the father the lotion of Aviv seeing that the heaves on the father now you might say well maybe it's Logistics of it because the child doesn't have the money to buy all the love he doesn't know he doesn't have the expertise that is going to go buy you that was meaning he doesn't know how to do it but cassava is and it certainly seems that there's definitely achieve on the father and perhaps on the Sun as well but let's move on what's the source so it comes to mind that warming who's this talking to obviously the father you have to mechanic your child doesn't say the child has to do it will soon see what that means so have that when he gets older and the beginning of Claus he says if you have a child is a mystery Kabbalah to the concept of the Warren buffer says is something that's not authorizer is both the father and the mother there is a source in the Torah for the concept of who says why he loved much Hashem foreign because of all things he was mechanical's children that means that this is special so the deity I think that's what explained the con enter the costume much better can override or argue on the Torah obviously but if we say that in the Torah there's a reference there's a a mention of and certainly it's in a mentioned in Kabbalah of the possekin in besley so they're both true but the terror man reminded us don't forget is extremely important so obviously it's not a theorem the hazard contradicting the khazal are looking deep into the Torah and seeing what the Virgin wants he's not trying that's too much of an obligation that's not fair but on their abundant level there's definitely father mother or both so the gamara that I mentioned and knows this is Rashi in the one place is on both but what's striking because this we're gonna have to learn because it has a lot of us is the well-known story in sukkada basam at base the commit the gamara says obviously a woman she was sitting in a sukkah that was higher than 20 Amis which is puzzle Frank tomorrow said how could you do that because what do you mean Anish is what do you care she does something she's possible she's part Danny out no no no but she was sitting with Shiva Bonnet with seven sons and the assumption is we have seven children some of them at least so however from here we see more wonders how could she allow this to happen the child the children act behind the Mitzvah is we could say perhaps on this camera we see that is on the mother as well now it's not a perfect Riot because you could wonder my sim hill now and where was her husband that's maybe there wasn't the husband but he was divorced maybe he died maybe he wasn't around so then if there's no father then the place can all agree on the mother understandably but we can't say it's Ariah barura but the indication from the gemara is that definitely there might be a machine on the mother as well I must say it's not as postured as I say the Misty bura in two places in them gimbals he's caught in bays and tough race designs he's caught and hey he leaves it as a machlaikus all agree the mothers should get involved but I do say I tell the Bachelor on the brothers they like to feel part of it and they like to be a little of a you know bullying their their youngest siblings that the holidays discuss a tragic when the couple's divorced and the children living with the mother and the father can't be mad at his children's he says listen if this case is it did not buy you there is and that might be also implicit in the modern Hill me that we mentioned but what's most important where I really think we see the site of kind of the age of it and the attitude and the and the limitations of it Suka members I told you earlier the gamara gives us the age of regarding Dallas meaning regarding cities you know that a talk did you notice that there is absolutely no Clarity in the age it seems that there are two variables first of all what's your child's capabilities there's no one-size-fits all it's tally in the cotton each cotton is different some are more advanced some are less mature so it's probably in every child more so it's not one Mitzvah all Mitzvah the same children as one share Dominos another sheer sits as another sheer in other words it's fully subjective what the child is and what the Mitzvah is why and I think it's beautiful because the starting point is that Tyrus said a child under Bar Mitzvah is Pata period you want to make you have to be a thousand percent certain that the child is ready look at the child and look at the Mitzvah and assess the situation because again the starting point is partner you want to say it's high if you have to be certain that he's ready and capable to do it because my cloud is that regarding there is no clown because every child is a yetim in a clown and parents appreciate that because no two children are the same and you can't be my kind of them on one size fits all so basically is the the age of that's not an age but obviously if I care that's a very important attitude but we see more to the concept of before we could give to hopefully some general age to mitzvism did you ever wonder what should be the share of the of Cree of dalat meaning is nothing so why did the gamara nanua is very nice it's halik the xiaomi in fact he knows how to go up and down that's extra credit so the native actually because that if he can't do the Mitzvah perfectly with all its details but he's not ready for the Mitzvah at all we would think oh listen you know that I pick it up pick it up that three year old pick it up I don't know is a very delicate Mitzvah it has to it has to be ready for it if he can't do the Mitzi with all the details with all the extra credit you want to call it I know him as a perhaps extra credit but if you can't do that then he's not having the Mitzvah because again the starting point is Katana until 13. you want to make he has to be good and ready for it he has to be ready to the full package midsom if not keep him in the terror decapitur but I'll tell you a bigger I mean it's a phenomenal said if you really think about it says let's start with that what does it mean Pata from Krishna every cotton about the night you think right it means foreign evidently Rashid holds that if he can't do the midst of the father's not there because the assumption is the father goes to learn early in the morning and he not the child's still sleeping but when this man Krishna arrives the child is not with the father and at night the boy is sleep Penguins man Christmas shall Arvis arrives so he simply can't help the child do the midst of Krishna and therefore Rashi holds until Bar Mitzvah he's part of both Christmas or chakras and Christian Harvest now Lema is a toy Swiss won this but tomorrow has to teach him and Krishna and also Unthinkable a child has no Shiva Krishna make sure he's fully capable now I must add which is really push-up shot but it's a kiddish he's not Mozzy it's like this man of Krishna that means mine Christmas sometimes is you know even now it's it's earlier but it's still like a 9 20. it could even go until 10 20 10 15 10 20 even like why is he not with his father so the possible is what is this man Krishna believe it or not this man Christmas is that's the premium time that's the right time okay you have we have this man until later but man Christian so if he can't do it perfectly that is that's how demanding hazal were before they placed he has to do it perfectly he gives man Krishna means the rights man and you know there's no doubt about it that shot when we land when you say the Agoda and pesach they came to the toilet to make use my Christmas chakras so we think oh it was like it was like 10 19 there's only a one minute left for Christmas Unthinkable you know they say once missed the first man Krishna and he fainted so balances Phil said why isn't this damn this evening why could it be a fainting goes to Embassy first he missed the first man Christmas that can't be so it's this this is almost missed my Krishna Terrace nope shot is he gives my Christian chakras basico weren't aware of striking now what it was whatever time hold maybe hell they could say later maybe the father will take him that's not a Gaya but the point that Rashi is the same you studied clarified perhaps highlighted if he can't do it perfectly and this is a person amidstal levirus and people sometimes have difficulties with child with a child he's struggling he's resisting he doesn't want to die he doesn't want a secret whatever it is before you make a war out of it first we stop and think maybe if he's not he's if he's resisting he's not ready maybe his internal clock it has not kicked in he's not ready now if he's an older child if he's rebellious if he's lazy so but the starting point is if he doesn't want to do something within him that's resisting maybe his brothers were ready much earlier okay so that's that's a terrible mistake so before we you know make a war and we leave children with a very bitter taste for Yiddish kite first assess this particular child he might not be ready and you see this because he asked me so what's the age of Krishna of of a gear so Mr Brewer and Simon irons if you've got involved regarding Christmas as six or seven same thing he says regarding kiddish five or six will soon see regarding isurium Shabbos the tarafes it's the age of three or four and the charity in a toughkeep of knowledge you've cut inside the gallif regarding avalis during the three weeks as the age is six Yom Kippur today the ages until pastors children don't face the whole day till the bar mitzvah now what kind of age is that first of all five or six six or seven make my mind and why is each Mitzvah different the answer is precisely because that's what kind of is all about there's no one size fits-all not with children and that was amidst every child has to be fully capable so you judge the mitsun and judge the child and at the right age is five or six because maybe this one is five and this one is six so hazal gave us some latitude but don't press the child before he's ready I'll just give you an interesting about Alma it's a beautiful caution Terrace the arabina and Simon your dollar yeah so even it goes through the motions where's the Cabana so he says his parents that kavana is a separate Mitzvah is the Tori Evan in the ugly tal and so the the same turrets that Bemis he has no cavana clapping someone else but for himself he could concentrate so whether is cavan if a child or not there's a material but I like the Kasha that it has to be possible and if he doesn't have one maybe he's put them so there it is he does have kavana or enough he'll do it without Cabana but the point that I think we should highlight step one make sure the child is indeed now so Lamesa we do see that a lot about the source is whether it's a root another rice but it's basically there are born on the father the mother also should to chip in but the other question that I mentioned is on the father or on the child it's probably on both and we'll soon see the last question is it practice is it am I submit so but let's and then we'll see hopefully a little clear if it's a practice mitzvum or actually a miser mitzvah the first question every Year's first Mitzvah is the midst of negovasa so the Emma says you don't need much intelligence to watch negomas I mean the floor might get wet that's part of raising children and it washes on the floor so you get a big still and a small cup you know that you have to figure out but it's really a young age that he could watch negovasa but there's another factor that to watch a child at a young age and that is because of his hands are tummy he'll touch food and touch himself and then be with him other things which is not good potentially how you see the rav in madurai Bays derived says that really there's no neg of us until bar mitzvah because there's no tumor until this caducea comes in entirely by the age of amitzvah so before my Mitzi doesn't have enough kadusha to have a tumor but the same rap says but if you Macbeth like many Eden are from the yoi Mila Kardashian so the Wrath gives us sort of a you know pretty big difference from Joy Mila to 13 but that's a beautiful attitude it's worthwhile it's taka a good idea now of course sometimes you know the women are overburdened and overwhelmed the early morning Russia will get the children out of school you see the school whatever it is so I always say if you tackle one your children to be washed from negative ourselves to school up so you could do it but the women to wash all the children and be ready and get them for breakfast and everything if it's too overwhelming for the nation the age could even be tilled by Mitzvah okay that's a fiddish but definitely is no kheeb at the youngest age like a yamakum also interesting you don't need much for yamaka you're not much and there's also a a proven School of bay yamaka brings yashimai the famous story in Shabbos his mother was told that his child would be a Ghana so what did she do to bring your shamayam and counteract his nature she covered his head yamaka yamaka is a tremendous School of Ayers and that's why Eden start three years old so I'm starting before three years old and again but sometimes a child for some reason doesn't want to be a yamaka so again instead of making a battle out of it they're making it an unpleasant experience the yamaka is like you know that's where he's argues with his parents so you could wait until the age of three that's Dominic Israel now Y3 so that's uh based on HR to the Saratoga quote said that just like earliest till three years old and and until three and after three then we're ready so it seems that regarding negovasa many people start by three yamaka sits us they stop at the age of three even though maybe three is still a little young as far as the midst of cities but three years old is is pretty much the age that we start these three mitzvahs but an important question is you give a child to this and that is four years old he's five years old but you know his his tits got stuck in his bicycle and one of the corners got completely torn off he's building he's wearing a vaade possible that sits us should you tell him something oh maybe he's wearing he thinks he may accept Brock every day he's doing it nicely oh so that's Mama if the Mitzvah is to give a mitzvism to his life he's not wearing a Mitzvah he's not mitzvah if it's just practice maybe also we could say you're practicing by he's gonna remember that when he was young he what sits at only three out of four with here maybe it's not a good practice I mean the same question we could ask you know today they have what's called what we call the white cities as opposed to the yellow well Woolen sits this White Citrus what does White Citizens mean it's a big difference there's some white cities that are are cotton that's a we passed some white cities a polyester they're going to emotion or this is at all you can make a broken polyester City okay others are Michael but there are enough sheets that hold that polyester you can make a brush on it so if you hold it has to be am I submitsu with all of its Allah so just like an adult is marked with the boy cotton or wool so to the child so here we go back to the story of hilmia malka because she kept the children in the circle and they must have happened but how could you it's it's a higher than 20. if the main thing is just go through the motions and getting practice so what's wrong if it's higher than 20 hours foreign and then he writes something a little frightening because I've seen smart people make a mistake now he doesn't say who they are why they said that but maybe they held that it's not the center has just merely going through the motion so he might not realize it's higher than 20. he doesn't realize that polyester is different than cat maybe that's what they held but to be a lot and tough racing in Zion regarding Dallas mean him it's positive meaning so we definitely are comfortable to say that the mix is kind of is to prep the child to practice get used to it but also have the caduceus to put myths into his life and that is it has to be accustomed what's also a very important Allah to mention will you see how careful you have to be before we um what can't be done I mean there's no doubt about it children should be wearing filling Kamara says Philip yet today Ramos says in the end of Amazon no one on the 13th should be at villain maybe a month some do it but there are more says no no not a day before my mitzvah what changed who it goes is the right to change there's nothing changed apparently our children are are less mature whatever the case is they can't keep this villain but it's irides you could say whatever you want but the end of the day there are more actually based on earlier sources to change the Mitzvah of that of of fill in Forever Philippine he's supposed to be here until I don't know what age maybe seven eight nine ten whatever it is but all of a sudden we have it now you'll say it's not right we go can't change the third let's choose the weird feeling that that's talking properly if you can't do it say it doesn't do it you read this I die yourself try to change it but if you can't change it go with it and that's why the mini gives children either a month before or some do it only the other bar mitzvah in the morning or at night not simple like we said earlier how do we pass again Simon I and Steve Bays the Mahaba quotes both days the Royal lenoid grabenutam a very mild Lawson a very powerful lotion it's appropriate that a child should say Christian is like Rashi and that's the going past skin a cotton until Bar Mitzvah is Pata from Krishna okay Mr real quotes the bach 12 years old he just started saying Krishna but again the sensitivity to make sure the child is ready for what you want them to do but regarding filler is a different story because the same mishnah that says the cotton is part of Krishna bit felon I the same quantity Rashi he's part of Krishna why is he even filler so here the key word at the the Rashi explains that filler so the same Rashi that insists that a cotton is Potter from Krishna morning at night but davening his Hive and the Beautiful word Rashi uses is nobody no man woman or child could survive without him and what is the essence of in one word it's called Phila so whether they're ready or not they have to die points out lightning buddy if Phil is the right so we could understand that child should do it but even if it's only there are born on their abundant because you can't survive without the Avenue okay what's what's which part of David will soon see but the Mahaba says what age is this so I saw a beautiful Insight from yesterday but you see a person thinks of Peter and practically as well he says really people say the age of Canada six or seven but that's not the age that is how I even feel them because it's unfair to expect a six or seven year old child without an entire darling is when he could do it properly that means doesn't skip words or skip or skip parts of the happening so at times there are two parts to this field get him used to davening and that's just it's never too early come to school if you say whatever you want Starbucks but to respect a child to come say the Avenue every word of it times that that's not before the age of nine years old now unfortunately people don't realize that they start fighting with the children everywhere if he's not ready so leave him alone you know don't make it a very bitter experience so you have to be patient and understanding so you start at the youngest age of khaim says a little bit then of course Mountain score but Cedar is very effective you know be happy and let him be happy with his accomplishment not what he's not doing and then you go on then he could do it more and more I mean it's easy for a child to lighten their Hanukkah but the dive in the entire diving is not it's not easy make sure he's ready before you demand the entire davening what's interesting about the lotion of Mr Brewer his high even what does that means both so the lotion of aerev sounds like Knight he says of course a child is push it because it's the middle of the day Mr Brewer chose a river vika even myrif even Maya that's late at night even Meyer of a child is a Kanye that we find that the word they don't in those days together that's right that's the first blood and shastra so Arab was as opposed to to biker but Arab means is a child that can do it should of course it has to be of age now the same responsive but don't deprive from eating before the evening this is just a few weeks ago the Ace of eating before darling before any Mitzvah or before the child a child must eat when he's ready to eat so he should Daven but today we see a child eats breakfast at home and go see Shiva and davins I what's the head there before the happening there it says he should do a child that missed a davening says should he be instructed to make Tash Lumen and do two Myers there's a whole semen does the child have amits of Tash Lumen so pastors why not he missed Avenue and especially if you wanted to do things right Testament is part of the that obligation perhaps this is totally in the question who is the father or the son he has not fulfilled this here he has the Daven to stomach but if the heals on the father so but maybe the father said they haven't over but not the son but where is a pillow this seemingly simple question is a tremendous like his Rashi entices the question is let's say a child ate a lot and he's about to bench and a godo his father the muscle just ate a small amount because can the sun be out to the father with benching let's say the father can't bench on his own so typically a cotton candy might see a goggle but here they're on the same page father the father is born on the benching because he only ate uh because I use the sun ate today sphere they're upon him so maybe the sun could be made to the father so who actually can be because there's no HIV on the sun per se on the father but the sons of God is twice is like strong exception and that's what most Australians seem to hold there's ahib on the father and the Sun so obviously we could say that the khiev is on the father and the son it makes sense all of them say that there is when that's the right age and also touch lumen now what's more push it is if the child doesn't does he have to Daven over so like me but if you hold that with algebra is but even behold is missing the ascora he didn't see all the other way but then again he was not you it's a definite says but here again a propaganda is in place don't make it as if it's a punishment or a class it's a privilege you you didn't do good the first time but don't worry Hashem you have a second chance making it more positive so the child will will Embrace this concept with he missed my rev does he have to make two chocolates so this is tricky because first of all my riff is the only tool that in essence is a resource maybe they want the child was he admired to the extent that it's and also as we'll soon see when the marriage is very late sometimes the child posture can't have a married so this there are those that say that perhaps if you missed my room especially during the summer he misadmill of every night because he goes sleep early he's still one of those disciplined children they're going to sleep before 9 15. maybe there's no testimony so Maya we could talk about but yes another beautiful muscle that you see that has to be entirely a child let's say it was in an accident and his father was the same accident as benching glamor does a cut and have the obligation to benjamu so Paul why not ah you'll say goaimosa only amidst so that the police can say Avada there is time maybe I'll say maybe a riot would be the gamara says don't say only the first day or two aluminum the whole circus I the bulk of the Yom tips there are born on so it seems that there's definitely enough to say that he's Hive Infinity so why shouldn't he make goaimo gonna have problem and raise your test quotes around means that he cannot say the word of him because an adult that goes to an accident he hears the message he hears the wake-up call and he says Rush limb I got your message because something's wrong with me so that's what gun's all about to acknowledge the message and hope to do better but a child even Toba Mitzvah is not about ancient so he can't say you can't do foreign if he can't do it properly then he's Potter leaving out a word means he's not doing it correctly that's not even All or Nothing so once again we see this emphasis he has to be able to do the Mitzvah with every seat cotton a beautiful Shyla is the concept of islavana on a child during the summer it's sometimes could be late so why not I told him more so because Ivana is caballoskin and maybe there's more of an Indian but the question is maybe we'll say that just like rashley holds there's no by Krishna there is logical that according to Rashi he would be part of and we say that because the Mr Blue in the beginning of quotes I'm not convinced he's right because like Rashi that it even plotted from Krishna Dar Isa calls gain Savannah and then he says maybe even the ivitz said it like Allah but he finds it unreasonable to Makai of a child to make kidish Livonia and especially during the summer months it could be as late as uh don't forget the aftermath so if the earliest Mario but so you'll have 9 15 so it's 9 30 plus if the children are asleep let them sleep and they can't do it they could but they can rely on her as she see them now you might say leader geese is only once a month you know when he goes to a house and wants my stays up late let him do it once a month make sure the child is ready and goes into hate another question and this is much trickier let's say the child by Mitzvah is in the second month second week of the month let's say slave test you'd what's the child should he do it like his meaning let's say some people wait for three days some wait for Zion schlame him some wait for my toy Shabbos should he do it at his first opportunity but wait those three days and then I'll do it as a gobble so he'll do it right away he'll have reason back demon Sana but he's a cotton he'll wait till by mids for night he's a goggle will that be enough of justification not to do it right away and delay it to do it as a gospel is only on the father so the child of other should wait if he does it now he's getting omits with the father gets the Mitzvah he wants them let him wait but if you hold the mixes on the child or like even if it's on the fans also on the child so maybe take one day at a time my child will make the beautiful of Honor make it now what's going to be later latest why not do it now now if you'll wait and then when you wait till you permits you'll have a mitzer will soon see if you waited so you'll do a mid to the rice as a godo that's more appealing but even if it's Mark and you're not doing more than a bit but then again if you do it now gimmel or Zion you have two draw buttons eurodya born on and because if you do it as a godo it's only one there I want to kill Savannah is say if possible if waiting won't risk missing it entirely let the child wait until he's by Mitzvah he's giving up the my love um presumably because it won't be a mini later to do the Mitzi properly I memorize his entire children he was asked about waiting and he answered not two words it's like two letters that's the whole you just have to wait and I guess they held it's a drabon he's high of now and maybe the fact that it's reason mcdemon and Rob so you're waiting for Watford to have an extra hitter this might be the hidden so this is something that I guess the child should could decide if he has a feeling to wait let him wait but really this is part of a very big Suga which I'm not getting into but because I'm safe as a beautiful truth and Simmons had the test about a Mitzi does as a cotton is is there is there is in the midst of their isolator by doing it now because right now he's a cotton should you wait for the Rises but that's something you know out of our range at least for today is surprising because we learned now basically I think I could say the average age is five or six six or seven but Mr Blue and shin mem gimbal Steve cotton quoting from who's quoting is a new word we learned and what's more surprising the police can say that is three or four years old so we have two questions what's this new lotion by rafana and why is the age much earlier so as often the case is one question answers the other because to do a Mitzvah and do it properly with every seed carton you need a sense of you need a maturity that you have to be here not to do something that this is not done today you know even if it's a shallow Havana like you know my children say oh it's mixer you know you can't put a mic because it's muksa now but the word means it's a chabas as a dinosaur but if the child understands we don't do this on Shabbos he's about Havana that we don't do this now if the child is told don't you dare do that and if you do I patch you and as soon as you walk away he does it he's not a bar of Honor he's a safe cautious child he understands that we don't do it not that he understands the depth of Shabbos he understands that we do we don't do it even the father is not looking well that is Havana at a three or four year old age demand and need a more maturity now again I say if a child of Mahalo Shabbos at the age of four and again he's not rebellious it's just he's not ready so understand him he's obviously not ready he's not about Havana again he's an innocent child but to make a war out of it might be counterproductive the question next question a fascinating question also was the summer someone who's by Mitzvah is that Shabbos of his body by Young should he refrain from making early Shabbos because early Shabbos means he dominates Meyer of early with Chris with their eyes earlier so here we have a little more of a challenge than Kitty Savannah because here we have a question of Daven Inc which some say is there Isa but even not their Isaac was their eyes and then I'll make kiddish their eyes upon him so should he wait till he's a goddel and not make early Shabbos do it now now of course that we know we once mentioned this the box says even if you make early Shabbos but you don't become a mitz until it says you don't change your age so this reasonably would be a good reason to say not to make early Shabbos and because your glove and Eric says here you have a question of waiting to other ice so or a number of the Rises now of course Envy makes early Shabbos you have to say Chris Malaya but he's going to lose the the fill up which could be you know and I'm not saying I said but in essence it feels better to isolates some and the kid and the kiddish the kid is a trilo or in there because one of them is their eyes talk upon him but there is an interesting deal that the earlier price can point out says A Child's Bar Mitzvah and those days early any night should not and they make an early marriage should not dabble for the Ahmed because he's not Bar Mitzvah until tonight okay I understand that there's no objection so this is surprising technology has discusses this but it could be like we said earlier that Lama is Hill Daven now because he has a key of now and Chris will say later so we can't say he can't Daven he can't make early Shabbos I would certainly advise he should not make early Shabbos now of course the problem is the family wants to make early Shabbos and pick my Mitzvah that so many families coming so let them all make early Shabbos and he'll make a find Dominion whatever it is but it could either wait beside that alone the question of course is in Europe where they European country that we might have they'd have a matter of early sometimes throughout the summer because live could be in the 11 30 and some parts of the world is even a quarter to 12. so if his his baby game is in a weekday the same child who lived in Europe for a good part of his life finds that he could have a mirror of attack early even though he's my mitzvah and he has one swara that because now it was only there is only three little dragon and he throws in an interesting question who said at night he said because besides years you have to have uh so basically waiting is is kadai but you can't say it's likely is there a Mitzvah of Canada regarding and if he asks what age is it so let me tell you A five or six year old cannot be required to do the whole parachute I'm afraid some 50 or 60 year olds I still figuring how to do that but that's why we need because it's such a daunting mitzvah am I actually so no doubt about it part of the laxity today is because the question that I wonder and I didn't find the flourish is is it an idea to start the child one Parish at a time let's say this year you're gonna do every week till till till till um Cheney now again if he could do the whole parachute but let's say he's incapable of that is it a good idea to start him one Parish at a time they've only going did did every day part of the of the of the landing Sunday he did till Cheney and Monday Tuesday whatever it is he divided him throughout the week so we would say wonderful that's practicing but the problem is you're giving him a incomplete or perhaps a misleading there's no Mitzvah of Marvel and perhaps an indication of this attitude is another interesting mini throw if you could call it because knows what they're doing the bach in the end of cycling base early is the back writes that a child should bench if you can't bench the whole benching and the person quotas but I rarely or if ever seen a child Banshee with what then he tells you out this year you'll bench make bench the first broken what's shot so the the I guess the the oilm felt that you're giving him a new nusa because your child maybe it's not a good thing but I guess kaiso didn't accept the back so maybe that would apply to to to mavic cedra or maybe we'll say listen it's better than nothing so I didn't find that if you have any information I'd love to hear about more about that but what's a global issue but at least I mentioned the question is during the summer in America and certainly in European countries have dollar is that much later than my Earth is late enough but especially wait for 72 for my for my Irish and then Abdullah took about an hour almost an hour and a half if not more you have to skip so the question is a child that missed half dollar or go to sleep before Abdullah regularly what's gonna be with half dollar so the embassy is there's no problem there's Allah you make till Tuesday in fact some say it's not a Tash Lumen it's the Ikea so why should we do it on Sunday morning and I heard from people that lived in England and other can bring countries Sunday morning in Yeshiva they're ready made up dollar for the boys they went to sleep taka shop a stick I guess they still wore their Shoppers pajamas they woke up it was still Shabbos now that'll have a problem because they ate breakfast in the house but you had to eat before half dollar but they got the Yeshiva first things first half dollar was said that was done and it's still done now those are the European children who are disciplined our children even without dollars stay up late at night so maybe they should make up to all of them so they should make it Sunday morning make it Sunday morning why not okay I don't know why some people don't do this maybe they feel like making a dollar Sunday morning but definitely a child should be told if he missed Abdullah to make it Sunday morning now you'll ask me if he does it the whole summer he misses Abdullah and I feel funny training him so I did find some that say that this is something that's not that kind of not apply it's like a funny type of Abdullah making Sunday morning now I would think what do you mean that's a that's a third of teaching what to do if you missed Abdullah but again this Global issue we'll leave it to the deadliest thrill but there are definitely those that say there should be enough to make it Sunday morning we see this in a very Exquisite way we had this past summer so refresh your memory I mean certainly an age we made Abdullah Sunday night because we don't eat till Sunday night but a child that typically will eat even does he make Abdullah like a regular military Shabbos so the close American Division before you eat you have to make Abdullah but I think the minute in most places is that a child does not make Abdullah and he waits for Sunday night till his parents make why what about this so This I could understand easier that this is an improper because as a godo you'll make Abdullah Sunday night Maybe not maybe certainly wants to eat has to make a dollar military Shabbos so his mother is making Abdullah because she has to eat because she just had a baby let him listen to her Abdullah but to instruct the child to make Abdullah on his own mat might be lacking in that aspect of now that seems to be the meaning I can understand where the mini is coming from the famous question of a dollar medium can you buy set so the answer is well how do you define if it's possible it's Apostle said yeah the only question is if you want to give your child your doublet meaning you're risking giving me a beautiful set so what's the Shyla it's beautiful view is for him but it's the first day and you're not giving him to keep it's so so that is Maybe by show there's no problem of regarding the child the EMP timer what's the difference but here we could say that since it's and it's not knicker the soul it's a very fine he's excited he's using tati's so that there's room to be Michael if the asterisk is kosher but not but it's so old it's not his but Apostle should not be given to a child a child we will have hopefully and let's say this child is too delighted in the earliest man these skiers man the night of his bar mitzvah should he wait to do it till today it's waiting a few minutes ago so you can understand the pros and cons because the pros are he'll do it as a goddel and he's waiting not so long I'm waiting a few days but then again you'll say well right now his man is uh a few minutes by the way so let him do it now and he wait till tonight I can become other ice all of a sudden but here again says do it now foreign so the truth is if he has money why not don't forget it's a challenging myth so giving a tenth of you is no easy children and my success often is a wonderful idea but here here's the point to explain him the beauty of regarding May 6th I just spoke the other week he's becoming a partner I've got this and it's something that really when a child takes it in as a as a child he'll do it like like he's asking like you asked me man someone told me he knew that he was a good Mahana when his child came and says here's a dime please put in the pushka I found the doll in the street he's giving my Isa on the money he found that's a beautiful and too much shots I want to tell you ramaysha was asked in your day of base coved out a fascinating childhood yes granted by the by the fights in the oven in in Chicago this is the early years in Chicago there was a fledging community and they were building yeshivas and girls schools but unfortunately the road was very low very low in those days there wasn't there was enough of boys and girls to put them into one class but they couldn't have two classes boys or girls but at a very young age to the writer of yesterday moisture can it make one class because had a brilliant analysis this is an afghanina of a character in the original hakira because that he has to do things like a god of wood treat him like a goddel a gobble in a situation like this that there's no hearer because he's young because when I was young maybe there's no reason that you have to make two classes let them have one class but if his practice how can you put a child on your sheep together with girls probably both and he required divides in a rough to go through the length and make Chinook proper separate class even a below and it's something that you have to realize kadusha needs an extraordinary Clinic I'm always a spoken when Brokers that when a child nurses not like a behemoth that has to stare at the mark of ever but it's a more sneer sticker way of nursing David was able to pick up the the the aspect in the Bible and last but not least certainly not but probably most important the rambam says if a child is stealing not only the parents should get involved but even beds and should hit the child Frank the the magnet mishna we passed if bearsden sees a child eating typhus it's not your business so why regarding stealing this doesn't have to get involved foreign Overlook it but attempting you can Overlook it there's no such thing as allowing a bridge he once made a suit during the week random day now to see him and he gave them meat and they wondered so the first time I started cutting the meat and it didn't go because it was too tough they took something else the second time tried to cut the meat anything goes so what do you what is what is doing he can't cut the meat when no one's looking picked it up by his hands and stuff grabbed it keep it said that's why I made the sue them I wanted to test we have Derek carrots imagine yeah but he trained them in in basic Derek habits it's never too early it's never too late foreign [Music] um [Music] [Applause] foreign there are two or three purposes either train the child or get the child used to doing mixes what part should they give him caduceus it's an ends for itself on the father and the son the father pastors is the main of the mother like many points came there's no kheeb is just mitsuba Alma unless there is no father and the mother has the entire it has to be done perfectly because don't forget the starting point is so therefore it has to be done not just with the evidence if he can't do it perfectly he can't do it at all the only is when he is to the extent that Rashi holds the child is because he might not be in Seoul at that time which is an insight about when the kriya begins make sure he's ready for that each Mitzvah and each child is different there's no one-size-fits all every child will see item in a cloud and the cloud is no clown clown is cotton that's number one is number two the Mitzvah negovasa okay the the different men hogim there's definitely an Indian to do it from the day of Mila onward somewhere till three Some Way Beyond that but basically there is a Miler but as the school of it yamak is also a schooler besides the middle can stop in three years old but it should be a customer apparent cities Al Capone should have the at least the basic requirements of the of the mitzvah fill in today we don't do until my Mitzvah close to that because children are different and Ghazal adapted to the Matthias Krishna is definitely Roy to say it like not like Rashi even but certainly over 12 about the every child to be saying Krishna is as opposed to Krishna and then even Rashi holds a day child is in the Mitzvah of David because it's definitely included if it's not too late should also be done there is such Lumen if a child missed a davening but and certainly if he made a mistake in the davening but it should be done in a positive way it's not a punishment it's a privilege you could make a second chance there's no goemo because he can't say the word if possible child should do it don't forget it is to do it whenever he can with the sibo it's the isurim is a baravana three or four because it's a younger maturity level just don't do it but it's only when he doesn't do it because he knows not doing that because he's afraid to get a patch a Shabbos by Mitzvah or a weekday by Mitzvah should wait till at night early it seems that this definitely has to be a kind of the question is it should be a partial maybe tell him clearly this is just a practice but Abdullah Sunday morning should be made unless the child for some reason resists about doing it or the parents feel uncomfortable but let it make up another Sunday morning if you miss maturity shop is to wait till Sunday night the aluminum has to be kosher but so there were those that are Michael he should should he wait for nearest Hanukkah until he's my Mitzvah so pass this if he's doing it early he could do it then some say should wait till he's by missing at night and do it late my six of him sneeze of kadusha and most important yes thank you for waiting