Stitches On Shabbos When And How? Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

please [Music] right there my boys like to welcome everyone to Today's Show from Harvard Smith on stitches and Shabbos when and how because we're exclusive sponsoring your cool you can shoot retire at 718-851-8651.com one of the challenging questions before during the summer when people are out more often someone falls and gets a pretty deep cut whether it's a child or an adult and the question is the doctor strongly recommends getting stitches and the question is is it mutta to have get stitches done on Shabbos or yamtiv and I want to be invoice to my dog once and for all when it's a deep cut there's always if the bleeding doesn't stop or more typically when there's an affection either there or might that infection and once you're dealing with even esophage the Allah is very clear ly so when you have even esophage you do what you have to do don't ask questions don't harass the doctor if he says you need it you do it in fact the service times you don't need it and somehow you do so he says you go busting me it is so definitely in a deep cut they could be possible because we are absolutely definitely not talking about even esophage today today it's the question of stitches which might leave an unsightly scar that's a nice Allah of saying that it's going to be in a lifetime scar that's going to either ruin shadukone Prospect of an older person is just going to be emotionally difficult so it's what what's called a Cosmetics you're doing it basically for cosmetic purposes there's no real fish at all and the question is is it motor to do stitches whether uh that's one group the second group is today's um modern world there are alternatives I'll soon explain each one but there's What's called the butterfly a butterfly stitch or a steri-strip they're a surgical Staples there's liquid a bandage is called this glue it's a fast fascinating question about the Salvo dissolvable stitches and basically the the real challenges you can't delay because they say within a few hours you could still make stitches otherwise it's too late so the rub has to keep in mind that you know when you're talking about a lifetime problem that he might cause but then again Shabbos does not have come and you have to know what's right and makes it more challenging when you have a two-day yum tip we just had a three-day emptive and there's no you know could be waiting three days it's definitely not an option but I want to just make a point box and we should all because in a not fall but even if you don't fall but the Martin's horror of this Sugi as we touch upon the Meiji you saw this of many the Allah of Shabbos that are negated to everything besides stitches so like I say sit back and enjoy what could be an Issa from a doctor to make stitches what's wrong with making stitches so like every child before you decide that Allah you have to know the Matthias yeah stitches are very similar to sewing you have a thread the surgical thread of course you have a needle and you make more than two trees typically a number of years ago I felt like I said deep still at a deep cut we had Stitches the doctor was a from a doctor we were talking learning effect and I guess they must give me anesthesia and it takes in a needle and a black thread I remember like yesterday and he starts sewing up my hands I'm watching him you know I didn't feel it because it was anesthesia but it's very similar to regular sewing just it's your skin not to something else yeah the A9 release literally that stitches is very similar to Tira now what's what are the parameters so the basic definition of pasta gimmel based of course when they took the five euras the five cloths and they sewed it together so from five or even two but even from five you made it into one in other words fira is connecting two materials two or more materials together if you glue two papers or two cloths together so basic fear is connecting two into one now there's a different form of Spira also in the mishkan and that is when there was a hole in the area so you have to repair it so you didn't add another area you sewed up the whole so either you connect two into one or you repair by using by using sewing but it's two forms of the same objective sewing repairs or connects foreign it's logical to assume that stitches is a form of sphere in fact it has both features first you connect the two parts of the skin that were cut and also you're repairing the hole not a very big hole but there's some type of Gap and it's noteworthy in English the real word for stitches is suturing or sutures we could say you know the stitches I guess that's the you know quote the yeshivists we have talking but the right word is suturing stitches is very indicative of the problem and in Hebrew modern Hebrew today it's called forum that's what stitches are it's foreign but before we say stitching is fira we have to step back for a moment because the basic Cloud by Oliver is it has to have and I'll give you a simple example if a person grinds vegetables but he's allowed to smash the eggs to tiny pieces why that's the versions is limited this is icing on the cake in other words it has to have now let's get a simple question is even when it's done to human being in other words is every malacha applicable to human being maybe some are just not for example you have a babysitter who's frustrated this child is misbehaving he needs a little rest so if he takes the child his missus child locks him into a back room throws away the key for an hour I'm going to rest foreign how about someone that gets very involved in it is and it's all dirty and he washes his face at his hands he was very dirty now he's clean do we say this is the keybusai if you put water on a clothing it's awesome so maybe they ain't keep us bottom so maybe we'll assume in the Michigan there was no fear by a human being that's for sure so you're all shall see it and you have to you know race through Shas see how many times you could find the answer to this question is there a general exemption of Ain blank by Adam so it comes to mind especially if you still remember from Yeshiva days are puncturing a pus pimple is a human being is applicable by human being foreign so you see by human beings this is by now of course if someone cuts nails or hair on Shabbos even have a human being it's the end of shin gimmel that this is applies to human being coloring whether it's lipstick or the makeup we see by human beings I'll give you an interesting muscle the How could a human being why could a person go to a Mikvah it's Miracle maker well you see nerica maker you saying speaks about cohesive summer writes on the skin this is cohesive umbilical cord when it's not needed for fua Isa and interesting things quotes him if a moyo cuts his fingernail to be able to perform Mila properly with the fingernail writes very strongly he says it's it's Boris and is aiah numerous of course we should we have to mention the question of a woman that has too much milk so to express the milk is the nefaric the only Act is if it goes the ebook so I think we are comfortable to say based on more than half a dozen sources that we can't just categorically reject that there's no more by human beings so I was thinking kibos is not such a Riya that it doesn't apply to human being because you allowed to wash dishes or a pot on Chavez if you need it of course why don't we say yes there it is Kiba says when something is ingrained the sustain is embedded in a cloth on a hard surface is it hot enough but a human being it doesn't get absorbed I why not why is the motor to lock up a child in a room so that's push it it's not just the issue of teda is really taking away his schlitter taking away his Morris his freedom a human being you can't say you captured him but I was a little disappointed we can't find any Macar for typha specifically so maybe it's a khatira yeah but I think it's a good value quotes you don't see that off but he's been very very common they would they would take a whole chicken of course chicken and put the stuffing in the center of the chicken the hollow scent of the chicken and sew it up so the rajba says you're allowed to sew up the chicken to keep the stuffing in on your eye what about Netflix now that means without the heads there would be taifa now I let's say there's no toifa by an animal maybe only by the garden so you see definitely by an animal there would be toifa if not for oil so maybe it's not so much of a jump from a chicken to a person but that's a katsi right I did see quote intercioletes that's a result I'm safer on your lettuce and he said mistavra there's no isotope about human being why just like there's no Issa of malabane and he says what we said since you have to have a special xeroxify even as a tailor that's in this of Boeing by human being is it doesn't apply to humans foreign but as we saw there are too many sources do apply and to quote Rabbi yasuv in this mass of ram in the blueprint archaim on the top of Israel told him and he's very reliable this this at least a suffix in stitches and therefore you have to be careful unless it's because not to administer stitches and he ate it but before you take the person out to skila consult with me one more time now is he not swearing in the court of Lords but a much more thorough discussion in Milhouse hey Imam was discusses the gamara says by human being maybe toifer is different but then again we see if you glue two papers together foreign that's because they didn't need it but today when a person has a deep cut that's the Derek to sew him up he says just like the rambam says Adam even though it's not typical but when it's needed on a tattoo it is it is cohesive so why don't we assume yes now he says basically that toy for mom is that is enough to say yes and we would add both forms of toifa apply to a human being you're taking two pieces of skin putting it together and you're pairing the whole so we're pretty comfortable to say yes it's at least but here there's one point that we have to carefully consider because if you think about a little deeper maybe none of fira applies to human being in other words you're going through the motions but if you look closer you're not really succeeding let me explain if you know a little bit about stitches stitching does not close the wound does not close the gap what it does is there's a hole or a cut and you know you want it to heal properly so you basically take the two skins and sew it together that aligns the skin in a way that when device starts Bria kicks in and the skin grows so it heals perfectly but no one should think that when you have a good doctor he heals the the the the cut or close the cut that is incorrect he aligns it he makes it closer let's say the cut is an eighth of an inch open so now it's a fraction open but the real healing the real connection comes from periodum the skin grafts and connects so in other words think about it when you do stitches you're not connecting the two pieces of skin together you bring it closer that it should heal naturally if so it's not like the regulator of connecting two pieces and it's not even that you're saying I I repair the hole you didn't repair the hole you set it in motion that eventually the skin will close it he says with a stitches or glue you're only bringing a closer that it should naturally heal but you're not closing the Gap entirely I'll be so young efficient evidence he says you're setting it up but not that you close the hole and I saw a very convincing argument he says it's clearly not that you're closing the hole he said he says someone that's taifa that only lasts for a short while and someone else comes and solidifies it rather by Stitches the berry Island solidifies it but not you I'll give you maybe a better muscle let's say I say I'm not a surgeon but I want to help the person I gotta cut so I volunteered to to my take my two fingers and hold the cut together for 24 hours I hope I don't move but I keep it for 24 hours did I make did I make a a mice of taifa I set it up that it could heal now grab the stitches much more efficient because I don't have to stand there but this is the point I said [Music] he says Stitch is like putting in Clips to hold it together but it doesn't heal with your stitches he says I understand because when you puncture the pus pimple there's a hole it's done on the spot finished but stitches is a process you set this the press in motion is that really the rise of toifa and stitches however all the posts that I mentioned don't say it's Moto ravazly says la maisa I have a Suffolk the Avenue says maybe it's like the the talada of sticking papers together it doesn't happen right away it has to dry it has to glue foreign he says maybe it's like yeah all agrees one of the Lama test malachas but doesn't happen instantly but you the fact that you put in the ground it takes time to germinate but that's the Malacca so maybe Stitch is the same by the bottom he says but really it's not a riot because that's the Derek of zarea always a process but toy for you could do it instantly so we see definitely there is a sad to be Michael but not enough to be mate is there but then again no one takes the plate saying it's not it's not a problem but there's another sad maybe three matter stitches there are more ensignia and Steve gimmel talking about toifer actually sewing or gluing things as long as it doesn't last you're allowed to sow it we'll soon get back to that but basically just like Kesha is only us if it's kayama so tooth Fair stitches that we put into the skin is always depending on how deep the cut is a few days seven days you know maybe long if it's needed but it's not forever says only be matir a buffet so the Earth he's talking about a Band-Aid but who are then our case he says why is it also to do it in front of an amarettes because here you are sowing something gluing something he doesn't know alumnus kayama not kayama he's going to be missiles on any student but says doesn't even know that stitches or Band-Aid is the cloudfire so his Islam you put a Band-Aid on does he think it's fear so it's not a problem even in front of an ambards so that's why there's a good shot to say it's at least a lower level of an initial but the embassies if you know about stitches there's a different problem now let me explain the rise of making a cashier on Shabbos why not shouldn't be an Issa of Kesha what I mean why not so imagine this is your shoe shoelace so you tie it once like I'm doing I'm sorry those that are listening you're not watching but one not on this on the to take two strings together making one knot is perfectly Moto now let's see another question typically we have them ill the raincoats they have a string in the hood now it's very you know difficult when the string gets caught into the um place where it is you have to go fishing and take it out so have a great idea I'll take the string as it is and I'll make one knot like I'm doing and I'll pull it tight so now because there's an app it won't get stuck in the in the in the groove whatever it is in the area where it is so is this only one that the answer has to show them this was called and as far as push it when I take two ends and tie it together it doesn't stay at all so that's why it's motor look but when I made what I just did I take the the once the rice cut and I tie it it will stay forever in fact this one already has one it's there it stays hot is I got the same is true with the garbage bag people have garbage bags they could have been garbage bag but this is just good and to take the two if it has two ends and tie it with one knot like this is fine because it opens so let's say you twirl the top people do that unfortunately and you're making that on the top of the garbage bag that's where it's hot now here's the problem when it comes to stitches because the doctors don't make stitches up and down like you know they'll look pretty pretty sloppy they make one stitch and they make a knot they make another Stitch and make a knot on both ends says the oven you throw so anchor fishing that tuba even if you hold the sewing motion is not fira but cash just cash up as cash as El cajama the not less so he says that's why I'm worried about the concern of question forget about the sowing but the cash is a problem but here again as I told you we come to another fascinating site that's Way Beyond stitches to disposable syringes and it's the countless amount number of Silas let's talk about Stitches the person goes to the doctor he says listen I'm not a rabbi you ask the rabbi but I have to make an act so the person sings Listen he's making a knot at the edge of the Stitch but after five days he's cutting the stitches and throwing away the stitches with the knot so the knot is an Ana kayama it's only lasting at most five days and some say up to seven day within seven days is not kayama but think about that it's not so push it because if you make an act and you untie the knot that's initial kayama but the doctor says he's cutting away the stitches and throwing it out so now the knot remains intact in the garbage then after a week they they empty the garbage can and put it into the recycling wherever they put it but it never is opened so now the question is how do we Define initial kayama when you make an app and open it like on your shoes it's initial kayama but they're not at the edge of these stitches less until it disintegrates but you only need it for five days how do you classify that is that kayama because it does last or because you need it only for five days it makes it ain't so this is a a brilliant einfeld the mural diskin and the truth is this very Shyla and he points iron kippa they tied a ribbon around the horn of the soil azazo and he says obviously it was done I what about this of Kesha he says maybe there's no question because it goes over the cliff and once it's over the cliff you don't care what happens to it is not judged by how long it lasts but how long do you need it but he says maybe it's not such a terrariah because maybe with the constant turning and then rolling down the cliff maybe they're not opened but he's more lighter to be Michael now that has ramification a lock in a very big way let's say today I'll give you one Marshall today they have a disposable syringes needles doctor has to give a person needle he puts together two pieces injects and throws it in the garbage now putting together this needle could last is that chicken is that boina Kaylee that Mark of apothesis but then again you throw it out a minute later you don't take if he takes it apart but he throws it out as it is this Tully in this side our not is the same Shiloh the not less at the edge of stitches but he doesn't use it foreign however there is almond doesn't mention this says if the not not the wrong word but the catcher of the gimmel meaning opened up you're not allowed to tie it on Shabbos besides but you can't tie it on yamdiv think about it the not of the gimmel minimum does not is not used for more than seven days I mean it can't be more than seven days because the other seven days that means it's less than seven days why is Rashi called the kayama it's less than seven days the turrets is if it will last because after you use it on a shot of Rob you put on top of the break front to burn it with the comments so it's not how long you need it it's how long it lasts an attacker won this why then we'll disconnect says this area you look at how long it lasts how long you need it but he does point out maybe him is different it's the hashiva submitsu that makes it kayama but everything else is telling your use also he mentions everyone say maybe the whole Rye is not a riot because you remember the gamar and sukkah the Flaming aleph they were so poor how your marriage they would pass on the Lula from year to year love but that's they did so it comes out that it is needed for more than seven days it's a year so ifnam discusses the same child about disposable syringes and he says now with this understanding it should be awesome it's not totally how long you use it it's how long it lasts if you go with rashi's so we have two different ways of defining kayama if you go to bisou lab this can decide then throwing it out makes it any kayama Sam's understanding at least from Rashi that is tell you how long it lasts and I must mention the reverse is you look it up you'll see the mask that you have to be gracious that is considered kayama so now we have another problem with stitches besides it's fira but the knot is a regular problematic knot so that's why la maisa to have a Yiddish doctor so make stitches if this is against silence do if it's just cosmetically necessary we have we can say at least a suffix cashew now this leads to the next question okay how about if I get it going can I have a guy make the stitches and again we're talking about only for cosmetics so the embassies we all should remember the climber of emila you know suffice what it says can I have a guy do for me so the response that I quote I don't want to touch that Colony you're playing with the version is foreign people think that America was not just the hatter it's a way of life well let me tell you without a way of life is that a hectare it's Baba's ainai but at the end of the day and see if hey if you have a What's called the schwustinvers foreign again even if it's not going to be dangerous but it leaves a scar the light me boy of all age but even that you know stuff nothing that would stitches obviously but Tyson says if the main lights are used sorry the same headed there there's something called emotional pain that's as painful not more painful so definitely the the the prospect that they might leave a permanent scar is at least a sorry regardle so why could we call a guy or ask a guy to do the stitching now of course you can't drive a car to get to the guy we're talking about the only Milwaukee is the stitching but you're wondering wait a minute we just said that that stitches so all of a sudden you call a guy so once what I saw that maybe since right now am I see as a cut maybe it's a circle that I don't understand because once you eliminated it's basically PRI only for cosmetics but the sword that I think makes sense is on each of the isurim we have big question marks is can we can we say is that maybe it's not rice maybe it's just bring it closer Castro kayama episode from the case of the Gimme them that I mentioned also and many others say we could rely regarding amirula akum that stitches with the nodding is only the red button now you're holding by welcome now that's why La maisa again I can't say it's vadai only to abandon but and it's enough of itself that we could rely on the drabonan aspect of it now of course if the if the stitching is needed but it's not so important even cosmetically let's say a place where no one could see or someone told me he once got a cut on his chin so he went to a doctor says man you'll probably grow a beard you don't need stitches is a nice beautiful beard so if you don't need it you know don't forget it's not a heptagumma but the Malcolm Sawyer there is the sad of idea now you have to realize if you could wait until my job is it's the best option go to Aid and I'll do it right but very often waiting a number of hours it doesn't heal properly so you have to know we have this hat idea now the question is probably now enabled it's pretty common there are no glacier docs available you know we have a hamster doctors in our neighborhood you have to go driving to a geisha doctor there's also no Hector so let me tell you a a limited which I saw representative suggest let's say the doctor is he looks at he said listen this cut cannot be neglected you have to do at least five stitches to either stop the bleeding or keep out an affection five will take away any if I do three more it'll heal beautifully if I do five there's gonna be a scar you ask your Rabbi tell me what you think in other words can I just finish up the and make three or more whatever that will close it up and leave no scar so past this you know who they do five eliminate Sakana and stop especially if you hold at every Stitch this is cashier suffered their eyes up and Aid what should be the sad and Tucker I'm listening says you do what you have to do foreign but let's say he does the Mila and leaves what's called he doesn't do a great job and there are little strands here and there very tight to what it means but he doesn't do a perfect job but he's as it is don't touch it up on Chavez because you're doing if the shop is most place mode you should you should touch it up but once he's going with the Mila and he didn't yet stop he's allowed to even CJ Max Venezuela may be the same applies to stitching once you have a head to the take needle and thread and start stitching as long as you don't stop maybe you could even do the three rice maybe the extra sphere is like the seats and she ain't my accent now this at first glance is very hard to accept because the head is not once you're doing it you'll have to do it there's no Shabbos for no reason is because it blibes a hidden Mitzvah to do the mitsu properly so hidden mits it doesn't justify but to finish up you'll Alto but there's no hidden stitches I've either thought of that and he seems to perform when he says that just like the head of Citizen is because it's Gemar Mila this is gamar Stitches say the same spot regarding machitza that it's a gamar mice loved Africa that I mentioned has the same einfeld the same head of Satan assemila but he says it's a big macalic because it has to be I had to outs mitzvah and there's no midstream is also in um it's not there's no health of mitzvah but he has a different factor and he says let's say the doctor says if I do five stitches it will heal but it'll take longer when I give the few extra ones it's more secure it will heal quicker so could be that is like not a hidden because not for cosmetics the Avenue Israel after saying this Hector he says but we have a problem because what about the gnats at the end of the stitches for that how does her head that you were doing the stitches but the nodding is not necessary foreign but he has a different husband that once lamisa you did the five stitches that that removesh is considered tougher the extra stitches once it was sown three extra are not making its own it's making it better regarding a scar but he says that in the Mish gun it was fira not extrater and he says it's an ancient okay if you like it that's what he wants to say my point only is that there is a Hector if needed this is even either you throw to have the doctor start because and complete it because of the Cosmetic reason throws in another Saturday Mako and that's the famous magnet mission even those that are not absolutely I need a newspaper I have to relax I want a newspaper it's not going to die without the newspaper something about commissioner and that's where the police can learn the market Mission up it's hutra so this is for the five stitches so maybe what's whatever he needs you'll have to do I had a little problem with that because after after you do the five stitches he's so what's the justification the extra three now is the case with the with the Royal tells you go buy a newspaper he's a coiler from beginning to the end of the myself that's mutton but here if you make it into two sections the five is and now he's back to a regular person but I guess the head is he tells he wants to eight now maybe that's okay so I definitely could say that although there are those that are Michael that the doctor could die the from a doctor could do the five plus the three but lamisa as I told you and that's the past is why is one not to the other but certainly to have a guy that do this the stitches and the extra that like we said earlier even Cosmetics a doctor to do both the last group of questions are certainly very interesting because you see how once you have this soil we could deal with new questions today they have what's called this not today it's pretty for years already dissolvable stitches basically it's looks like regular stitches and it could last but once it's put into the human body it's a chemical reaction after X amount of days it dissolves on its own in other words if you use it not on human body it will last the human body so the question is is that a hecta mitsarasma in other words and let them do Cosmetics purely maybe the fact that it doesn't last quote unquote it makes an automatic okay it's that is that a better option of regular stitches so if you're a lamb then you might remember Gamora Shabbos of yemia had his shoelace tour so they advised them take again me lock a read grass type of material and use that as your shoelace I why is that motor so so the way the rambam says points out because this thing this this gemilak does not last after a while it falls apart so something that dries up and doesn't last there's no malacha so maybe dissolvable is like gamila so it's how long you want it to last however think about it there's a big hillock because the gamila you would love to have it lasting forever you would really want it but it just falls apart it's very swag and it's in its own Matthias but the Salvo stitches you made it to dissolve you don't want to keep in your body forever so it's made to last let's say I'm just giving a muscle five days and the last five days so that's a real cayama it lasts as long as you want it to last and that's why the Shani is he feels that dissolvable is the same it lasts as long as it's intended to last that's not any gamma means you would want it to last but it falls apart this is a real kayama they also saw in the safe for tourists he has a really interesting einfeld and he says the fact that if you don't put it in the human body it will last that shows that it's really thread none of us you wanted to dissolve but you want it to last as long as you need it he says you know what it's like if someone makes a permanent knot and there's a fire coming down the road and will burn up the fire burn up the the knot Ayala does that it's considered a Kesha China this is a question but you want it to have a life of expectancy so a five days and that's why la maisa the quote I'm missing Carrell he calls missing corelis that also now he's sort of the safer that this is considered a cashier is it better than regular stitches maybe a little better but not much what I found really gishmak because the problem of course would feel as nauseam and stitches is is a is a harrowing experience because stitching typically is a casita so the question is is it an option to use dissolvable stitches so I was thinking could be it's totally sampers here because if you say dissolvable is not a proud it's not a mitzios then maybe it's talking about now of course if the stitches are put in a place that is irritating or it's sticking out if it's Macbeth Macbeth is Macbeth but let's say it was done well no one feels any pain it's not disturbing it's not distressing problem because it's not noticeable it doesn't disturb and doesn't last it's not enough on the map to make I was thinking well to agree because he holds that's the it's its existence he says that dissoluble is a problem so it could be a little of a she thought they've had to understand them it says but I really could understand even if you hold taka like we said it's a problem of sphere but somebody doesn't last doesn't pose issue and I think the most part is my makeup if it's Factor not disturbing it would not be a katsita but certainly better than regular stitches that is a child of each case differently but there is it sad to say that the spell dissolvable is less advocacy than a regular Stitch now the next sale that you hear and you you might think it's a joke but it's not doctors will use staples to close the wound of course surgical Staples not regular Staples but it's basically similar to Staples used on paper is that less of a problem on Shabbos regarding taifa so I think all the police can agreeing and a host of others that basically stapling two papers together is a Toledo of typhoon because Taif is loved Africa sewing a tilada of taifa is I'm a dabic so why isn't a staple at least like it's a hard material so what if it does a job it's a Derek the khachani says this and many other boys can say this so it makes sense if you're using that Medium to stitch a cut it's the same fear now you want to say like we said earlier stitching is not really to your mom is it holds it together fine but it's not any better than regular stitches now let's go I'm going in order so you could you could see how one leads to the other they have today what's called actually also an older much older and Matthias it's called butterfly stitch or basically steri-strip now I don't have ones I couldn't bring it but looks like an H basically it's a piece it's like a Band-Aid that goes on the cut holds it together but there are two glued sides on both sides that also go on to the onto the area so it's a very secure Band-Aid that hopefully keeps the cut in place so instead of running to a dock then he has to sew it up whatever you you know how to do it right you put on this age Band-Aid so it cuts it holds the the wound in place and it has it's reinforced on both sides is that a problem of taifa on Shabbos here logic dictates that it shouldn't be a problem because here there is no my sister unlike dissolvable stitches or unlike a staple the stapling is the mystery this is basically instead of having someone volunteer to hold your hold the cut in place you use a Band-Aid but there's no mice is fear and taka those that are much by using a stitches but this powerful is called I guess that's the modern Hebrew word but these these this this butterfly stitch is not a Mysterio I it works so your alarm then you gotta do things right it's no different holding it in place the challenging question is they use it also for years they use glue not of course regular glue but surgical glue to keep the wound in place so now the question is we have options is it like sewing like Staples or is it like they Band-Aid the butterfly Band-Aid so here it's not so pushed like the like the butterfly because gluing is a Bonafide mesosphere variety isn't it so of of typha so if glue is can be used as a medium of fira it makes sense that surgical glue that makes the connection should be awesome a I'm not sure why but this is what he wants to say the event Israel the end of this chuva that he after he goes through the whole sugya he says I heard today they use glue use glue I don't know if he means it's better than but he does say glue seems to be better than sewing now what they have which is really fascinating it's called officially liquid bandage that's one of the you know slur names but basically it's similar to Globe but you have a scan aerosol can you shake it and you spray it onto the wound so that's the highest symbol to glue you're using glue to put something two things together but I have a different problem why maybe glue is better because lamisa whipped cream in a can of course not toifa but the problem is is that myelant because you're taking a liquid and using the gas to make a salad if you assume that whipped cream is solid you're making from a liquid to salad you're doing could be a diet if you're pressing so we see making from a liquid to a salad with an aerosol is is mild so if you're making from a an aerosol spray into a solid glue that should be the ISA violet so glow is gloomy color it looks safe but if you're making it it should be myelid so probably the glue is a little better than this aerosol can but besides that if glue is a form of fira this will also be a form of Tavira so I think the order I go from best to worse so to speak the butterfly is the best option because that I don't think anybody's mahmir I got as well but almost glue is better it's not as good but also good spray is a little less than than glue Staples is worse Stitch is dissolvable and even regular and certainly regular is probably the worst just a few more questions once we have the sugar yeah but using a regular Band-Aid non-medicated Band-Aid so the embassy is you think about it you take off the tab and you put it onto your skin why isn't that typha sticking on to my my finger so the answer is maybe it's true but then again no one keeps a Band-Aid for just more than a day or so so it's that's only if it sticks on and it becomes one what's the right what's the prabha because you have to tear it apart because the opposite of type is career if you glue two pages together you can open it you have to tear it apart so gluing papers is toifer he says a band it like this which appeals clean maybe it's not toifa post it all these uh new inventions basically it comes on and off diapers the diapers the tabs so Maisha would be a bigger cooler but even if you don't go with that cooler this is fear is but here the place can caution do it right because if you do it like I'm doing it you put it as it is totally onto the finger so now it's at the length of the finger you take it off and throw it away no problem but typically you wrap it on itself so you put it on the wound and you go around and you you put one edge of the Bandit on the other after a day or so whenever you change it you typically don't open it you slip it off now he's slipping it off and throw it away what did you do you threw away a cashier that's gonna last see it back to my real this skin versus lemon so if you could do it right don't do it wrong so wrap it on on the finger nut on itself a ghost pad sometimes a person says you know I don't have to go to stitches I I'll take a gauze pad I'll put and I have tape can I make my own you know treatment on Shabbos so obviously cutting pad or cutting tape is needed it he cut everything before Shabbos so you think about it the problem is toifa because you're putting the tape onto the ghost pads and that's not coming off so quick even Maisha would be more either that's a real taifa because you can't just peel off the tape from the gloss pad and besides that you take off the pad and throw in the garbage so both atarium don't apply by ghost pit someone asked I don't know what the shylist but I mentioned it an Ace bandage using an ace Bandit on Shabbos today's Benson that elastic thing that goes around what's the problem there's no typher and he was worried about before is only in Issa on take ingesting medicine if you have a treatment that you do let's say exercise but there is a medicinal alternative then there's an issue of of a fool but if there is no medicinal um alternative certain exercise that there is no medicine you'll have to do on jobs because you know it's a fool on an action unless there is a medicine corresponding that to my knowledge the ace bandage is is including that Hector I the clip the clip doesn't make a hole the clip goes into the existing holes so you're not making a hole but maybe last but not least the most important whatever you do please remember this that doctors say that the biggest Sakana in a cut is the infection if there's dirt in it if someone decides to wait to left the shop let's say he thinks he's not worried about waiting clean it well because sometimes when you cover a wound and it will make it stitches when there's dirt inside that's the biggest econom so braces bar the first thing is because if there's a cut clean it well you know what is fire so that's not coming here [Music] thank you okay so this is going to sew up today's year and the stitches and Shabbos okay just we learned today hopefully as I said it's clear that there are two forms of taifa both the rice is either attaching two or more cloths or repairing a Hole by using tetherium stitching seems very much to be a malloc of typher but you look closely there is a fundamental difference that really nothing changed it just became closer it sort of make a grammar to put emotion their banish lines Bria of closing the wound but based on that alone none of the places are actually make them and basically since we proved that there's no General exemption of aim toif about the Moraine but in the bottom left in stitching of any form whether it's connecting two pieces skin or actually closing up the wound and as we said it's at least so the problem of course is also the fact that stitching employs a not a cashier and on every Stitch there's a knot on both sides so that makes it a mullah now the only question is if you make an ad that you tackle don't untie but you throw away so it's only functional for a short time but it lasts much longer is that considered kayama so we have another suffix there is to consider and that's why the police can say IDE akum blame me boy I should have mentioned this before if there's any you have to do whatever's needed and I'll show you'll erase it for government but today sugar is cosmetic purposes only no Sakana so either Israel we're not Michael even though again we had svakis in both but idea it's enough of atario goggle to allow a girl to make stitches purely for cosmetic purposes if five are needed five stitches and they add a few more it'll make it perfect so they were starting to be magical but again I the outcome that would certainly be mutton is at the end points out that the nodding is a problem but basically stitches as they are a problematic dissolvable stitches we said should be treated like regular stitches it's not like the gamila Staples is a form of stitching it's like the butterfly seems to become the butterfly stitch the stereo strip glue and spray is one problem because it's using glue and also the spray might be my lid the Band-Aid it can be used on Shabbos is nowhere full of course but on itself is a problem because it remains so better put it on the on this the skin itself gauze and tape is a bad combination because that's the theorem from the tape to the goals Ace bandages mutton and after any cut clean it well that avoids the second yes whatever [Music] foreign