Snow And Rain On Shabbos - Rav Yakov Zev Smith

i' like to welcome everyone to today from snow and rain and Shas sponsoring 718 851 8651 email.com or now the summer's coming we're going to i' like to discuss the sugya the question when it does snow or winter I'm sorry the Winter's coming I'm sorry I feel like the summer that's why we say that but um the question is when there's snow on the ground is a to shovel the snow when you have concerns people will trip I'm talking about within an air of course is it m to sprinkle salt on the ice to chop the ice someone about pouring hot water on the ice if he has no salt and then someone asked me an interesting question that wasn't as simple as it seemed when you're walking in the snow and some there an accumulation of hat of snow on your hat is that a problem is that a problem of and these are other questions we're going to touch upon today which really is the sugus of m MO it's a very beautiful because it's like a beautiful package that puzzle that fits one piece into the other we have to realize one thing snow is not a modern invention they had snow in the times of Kaz so our privilege of today is to figure out is snow M that's the starting point because they had snow look in the G the and apply it to the various newer type of Shas but let's think objectively let's talk about about snow that fell on shabas should that snow be considered M so the question is why should it be M snow is fully useful you could play with it if you want theoretically you could take a cup of fresh I'm talking about clean snow not the city dirty snow but the clean snow you could put in some raspberry syp and you have slush they they you pay the money for in the store you can make it yourself that will soon see that the snow is not as clean as the purified water but it's definitely drinkable snow is the same ingredients like like water that we drink let me add a little more Gish to that Stones I I want to use it on chabas to hold open the door so but it's m if before shabas it and you designate it to hold open the door then it's not M because inherently are so let's put it this way are guilty until proven innocent it's m until you make it I but you look at it's clear that food including drinks water is just the opposite Foods is innocent until proven guilty food that's edible not even sometimes even raw food is is edible is is not m in fact when you have chicken V you allow to serve the bones to the the dogs and because it's still food in fact food is to move even my point is there's a fundamental difference between food and food is mut until it's totally useless maral food that's terribly spoiled that's M now why should I think snow that essentially is water it should be it's frozen so wait 15 seconds that'll be no Frozen no longer Frozen so snow should not be M you want to play snowballs it's not M at least but listen to this he writes it at a he was the there was a big snowfall in Yim and people didn't know anything about snow you know we you know is it so they asked me and I told them but listen to the say now we'll soon see the details but a person cannot pick up a hand of snow and crush it and turn it into water Rashi said that's the ISA of M you're creating water you're taking snow and making it into water and we'll soon get to the details but to pick up the snow is not a problem that snow is not and I saw isow and he said and the rest you figure out and now we know what it means but there's a different RI that has a tremendous impact on and that is the if you're familiar without getting into the details it's not important at all for upon him but you could have a natural M that allows carrying by using natural makas a river bank Etc but if there's an obstruction tell that's blocking the natural M the air becomes fle both let's say you have a snowfall and the snow a layer of snow or ice on the natural M that pass the a because it's that's the she in a very important in he was the r of Frank for the mine over 300 years ago and he said I don't agree to the he says because snow is essentially water snow snow is like Mas he brings one r that will leave but he brings a from because the on our in that if you let's say you take snow and put it in a cup and it becomes water can you drink it yes Mas we know juice comes out of Paris is M that's because it's a new item but snow is basically water and Elion is even when it's frozen so so why is it a problem if you have a an obstruction on the it's a problem but snow is is basically water and you look in the back of the one of the he brings the T has the same disagreement snow is basically like water and the the and theim he CL he has a sh about snow regarding a a AR but he says but that's snow is not M even if it fell on chabas now what's beautiful and we'll soon come back to it the EV OA brings a r that ice and snow are not a problem because of the what we know what always warms our heart we think of ye they would break the The Ice to to be able to to in thear obviously it's not a problem but I hope it's clear that we have we have a we have a we have a that snow is not in he says because you could feed it to the birds now I know today we don't feed snow to the birds but I think this like I told you earlier once something is a or it's not until it becomes totally useless the as we'll soon see in he has a problem with with making snowballs but he says to move the snow is okay I saw theab and many other po has a cha and many others as well also said this that snow is not M now again even though we don't use snow and again probably little little the problem with snow is that snow falls from the shim obviously and there are pollutants in the the air and that's why it's not as clean as tap water tap water is purified even in in even in in a in a Nar even in a lake the pollutants sink to the bottom snow like rain is not as clean but I I I discuss those that know it's still drinkable so basically we're going to say I think it's ped that snow is not M if the snow like in our city after a few hours after the it's black and it's dirty and it's not drinkable and and you can't use it for that would be we're going to get to that going get there good good point now what's troubling is RA is quoted inab one page 165 that he quotes said that since the D today is not to use snow it's like it's m I guess it meant like and therefore it's functionless now in the IG that's where they have this we told the it's printed there he also says that snow is now this is a problem because as we said water is water but also one of the first that wrote in page 120 was time and it's not so we're not clear what really held but one thing I will say we have many that say emphatically that snow is not M the next question we'll get to soon is how about rain so rain should be a lot easier because snow you could say well snow is not yet liquid you have to change it but rain is rain and again because rain is basically drinkable water you could use it for what's the problem with rain want I'll tell you in fact talks about actually it's it's a line but it's important what the M referring to is there's a a was a it's raining and there's a drip of rain water so the is you're allowed to put a K under the rain waterer what's the so you look in with the of the there is a because let's say the the water that's dripping is is is dirty water that no one could use so by putting a k to catch that's called now take a k that's functional and makes it functionless because if you put this K under the M water then you can't move the K so that's which says but the first part of the m is saying that that since rainwater is not M you got to put a k to catch the rainwater no so it's as clear as they that rain water is not M it's only when the rain water is dirty and usess that's when it's m so we have a mishna and I should mention the ch you're going back before the even if it rained on R is not the say this says exact same thing rain that fell on chabas or Y you allowed to drink it or wash with it because it's not the in the end of quotes this and says it as clear you could drink it wash with it and feed it to the animals so it's very comfortable to say rain is not now again I add today we don't use rain water but again once rain is a Mas and it is officially useful it's m i so the in in page has a beautiful proof to this let's say you have a tree that's out of the that has pis and the pis fell off the tree before shabas and pun you happen to be for some reason out of the is that Apple it's not no one eats it because no one goes but an Apple's an Apple so why is why is rain different food is food again innocent until proven guilty so that's why we're comfortable to say both snow and rain even if it fell on chabis is not M I must mention I'm sure you know this that if you take GRE you put it on the roof to make it into dried fruit so that's M because you you did something but rain and snow you didn't anything to it and I'm comfortable it's not we're not yet finished now we have your question it's not but why is we know which is a fully edible EG because it wasn't there was no wasn't made from before shabas so why don't we say rain and snow that fell before shabas is not but it fell on shabis why is it different than a b and indeed the P now this is an interesting place you have to find it it's in the back of the he says that there are a few different types of NOS it goes in levels the worst no G is rain that fell on shabis because that's so the worst form of is like rain now this is a ple this is flies in the face everything we said Till now according to P snow and rain is M and in that he says snow is but you better take a look at the prim that doesn't seem to say that but the ple is when you learn the which means that the that the a of shabas there is no snow there is no rain in the clouds it's it's basically moisture but onas it's created so therefore it's but and that's why all the Pim are surprised what if theam saying The Have and also we saw the CH way before and it's say is water in the clouds air of shabas it's not a it's not all the say the same that he didn't mean he wanted to illustrate what's a real now would he have a real that sow that water in the cloud is not yet created till till it falls so that would be a good example so he's using the to illustrate the but it's inspiring to me how don't just say okay the is small letters he's always with rights with great always but he's a prim and everybody has to F but at the end of the day the poim say thata snow and rain even that fell on chabas is not M if you want to have a treat I'll give you a treat I saw the the in v in Sim he says something and the P they both the same they both say that M fell on a chabas why wouldn't it fall on chabas so the is because that says that had had to have a Muna but couldn't be confident at the moment fall for them on chabas if if it had to because you have to be on a certain mad so you never had D that the moment would fall onab if it did fall it would be but because there it's not because it's and and people know that weather always changes they had it so he's saying fell on chabas is M unlike rain fell on chabas is not M so you have that makes this okay now that we have the basic let's apply this I was once in shabas and there was a sh within an A and I was going to and someone was in front of me and I guess he was in an interesting mood so instead of washing his hands for he grabbed a handful of snow and rubbed his hands with the snow so he washed his hands for so I was thinking this ye made it to which from B you know to take snow and transort form it into water but speaks out the example of this this case so someone shouldn't take a handful of snow and rub his hands to wash his hands it doesn't say about and but just the same thing taking a handful of snow and rubbing it is the is of that's Anon of being mileed you're creating the water that you just grabbed and turned it into water the snow you turned into water now what interesting T goes a step further don't even grab water that has some ice in it because inevitably you're crushing that ice and that's test regarding andest and Olive be careful with water that has some ice particles in it so you know if you want to do things you know different you have to make sure it's but this was m a violation of a now let's say someone during the summer is running to and he doesn't have water but there's a accumulation of water on the table outside of the sh that's fine because snow rain is not M there's no crushing so to use rain water is fine I'll give you another musle someone is learning Outdoors they have to arain during the summer and he touches so instead of going to his house to wash his hands he'd use the rain water on the table that's perfectly fine if someone ate Outdoors whatever and he has and he wants to use some rain water that's P that's not M and it's okay now you want to know a case where water is a real case of so I'll tell you what I saw has a whole about it and that is the air condition of drip now let me explain I know if it's not going I explain in detail but basically we call an air conditioner drip not a drip it's not like a a sink that's dripping the condensation that's right by taking in the air and and transforming it into cold air so that the the the basic science is when there cold there's less moisture so the more cold it is the less moisture there is so when you make from humid humid air into cold air there's got to be liquid that's that's created so that air air conditioner drip is really a that was created on chabas and you shouldn't put a k under it to catch that drip cuz that is the case of since snow is not we could wonder is it to have a snowball fight I'm not talking about adults obviously but children is to make a snowman so T it's a very sharp lotion I'm not going to tou that you know they should get what they deserve so I guess it means maybe it means creating the water but B I know what it means you're making a person you're making a ball now there he he says I he says it again don't you have to be children that make snowball but it's m to shovel the snow we'll soon come back to the shoveling part of it but what he assumes is that making snowballs a snowman is B now I guess he also was was felt that this would be similar to a shab the ra like that and quotes it in that making cheese on shab is the but the problem is is a big cuz when you make cheese it's made it's there it stays when you make a snowball and you leave it on the on the table in a few seconds it's gone so he wonders if it's it doesn't last it only lasts in the cold weather he says in a city that has an a I I can't I can't see reason to ask him making snowballs but then at the end he adds an interesting since we saw the earlier that you can't even wash with water that has snow in it or ice in it because you're crushing those small pieces of ice so maybe making a snowball you're taking crushing the the the snow by putting it together so maybe he says making a snow ball is a violation of our gar of crushing shell because inevitably it has some type of transformation into a liquid that's what he's assuming okay if that's the case then he's right but we we could hope that when you make snowballs and you don't push it too hard it's not making any liquid so if it's not making any liquid we have the that says I'm afraid to play with that but either it could be B if it lasts it could beIN but if a child's playing with snowballs you don't have to be because if he just puts it together it's not making it into water and we'll soon discuss sending a children outside to to play with the snow might have a different problem but but again in snowball a snowman it's definitely not in the spirit of shabas but it's hard to say if there's no V water that's being made that it should be a problem the next question is shoveling the snow and this I want to make a point because it's important snow or maybe more so ice is a hazardous condition on chab some people breaking bones on chabas I know a person that fell hit his head and never came back to himself but please remember when it does snow our first reaction we have to be the first to shovel it it's we and there are too many stories that people got hurt on on someone's neglected snow or ice you know you have good excuses but that doesn't heal broken bones like we all know so we have to be the first to shovel our snow it's a it's aover and KES but anyhow the problem is when it snows on chabas what do you do so the question is let's say within an a let's start with that so what should be a problem with with shoveling snow it's not M and basically what's wrong with moving snow from one place to the other now the EM is that there is an Isa of masin which means changing it Mo it I want to explain something thear says you're not allowed to crush ice why that's the is of means be you're taking snow making it into water I'll give you a contemporary muscle of mo mo is a verb don't forget they they today they sell whip cream in a pressurized can shake it up and you press the nozzle and out comes whipped cream that is a bonafied mid because I need not tell you that there's no cream in the can a little bit liquid with pressure and that fluffs up the the whipped cream so using whipped cream is a is a contemporary example of Mo okay now how about if I take snow or ice or a congealed gravy and I put it next to a fire next to a steam next to a heating element and it starts to melt but I didn't crush it I put it in place that it starts to melt instantly is that the is of aasin well it's melting but I didn't do the only is but the says yes what do you mean but it's melting how do we so is you allow to put ConEd gravy of course there's no Bish because it you didn't do it it's no it happens that's okay the ra says the yes very mild in other words AG this is called a perfect example is quote unquote to make ice cubes on shabas if you would make it be all agree is a but no one makes ice cubes you put in the freezer so putting in the freezer is not M what is it and the says means if you have guess doesn't have to be someone got a bump on his head and just for guess it's m to make ice cubes now this is clear that the ISA is the is making level two is next to an a now I'm going ask ask you a question let's say I put ice creams on in a bowl on the table now naturally it starts to melt is that a problem of that should not be done unless it's no it's different I put it next to a that's what the talking about it happens right away I put it in room temperature it's a gradual process it's not even anded he says they both say this third level of room temperature all agrees that's he says if you want to make ice cubes wait until the motor goes off of the freezer refrigerator freeze usually one and put the water in the freezer when the motor is off cuz at that time it's there's not even there's no energy enough to make from water to ice it's like the third level of putting in room temperature now it's a little a horor because it happens later it starts to happen with the cold air that's there and when the motor kicks on it might happen more butman said it I wanted to mention it but I will say one more thing I once sitting by shab and someone had it was a very funny scene I still remembered he had ice cubes he was juggling ice cubes in his mouth and he was trying to talk like that I asked him what's happening are you okay he goes well I can't I I have ice cubes in my cup I finish the water and I can't put it back in the cup cuz then it's going to melt so I rather keep my mouth so I didn't want to say anything I but I do remember I thought if he puts it in the cup it's perfectly okay he keeps it in his mouth it could be M now it's not really M because in the mouth there's no you allow to make in the mouth you allow to make but in the mouth but it's worse it's worse than it's worse it's better put it in the cup so if you not don't advertise that's for sure that's the mus but getting back so we have three levels is also is okay and the third level is room temperature now I'm going to ask you a simple question sprinkling salt on ice is that level one two or three so you're not doing it starts to melt right away but that's Tak not you didn't do that's he has a beautiful way of putting it he says you're allow to put ice next to mad right now you could bring the fire to the ice same he right no difference so he says putting salt on Ice is like bringing Madura to the fire but to Mad to the ice but you're not doing more than that it's basically putting it in a mat that it will melt instantly what's that called not shouldn't break his bones oh we're get there good good good so that's why I saw the and the nice are all matter to sprinkle salt on ice on which typically it is it's so if you use table salt regular edible salt that's not M the rock salt that we used to use on ice is basically salt that wasn't processed which is edible it's big it's you still use it they used to for castering grub is called yish but basically rock salt is also basically salt but today they have the the calcium chloride the pellets which is not edible but the EM says you think about it if you allow to sprinkle Sal salt on the ice so why is it m you have to you go to you bought it not to keep it in the in in the basement you bought it to use so it does no if there's no Isa in sprinkling salt what's the what's the problem medicine the say in in a house that there's no is because there's an Isa taking medicine unless you're a but here there's no is to sprinkling salt it's always so I don't believe that even rack salt that rack salt which but even today we have the the inedible pellets but if it's B that's the it should not be I clared about pouring hot water on let you don't have salt pouring hot water onto ice of course within the a so bishell sounds like a problem but it's not because you you're using minimally you're using a Eerie cliche you're not going to bring the the ear out outside or a kettle so you pour it in a cup and from the cup onto the ice that's iry that cannot cook unless kishel water or ice is not a Kia bishell so there's no problem of bishell the question is is it mid or n so here the the logic dictates that it could be a little more than a little worse than sprinkling salt because this is a person throwing the salt is actually what melts it throwing the I'm sorry throw throwing the water is what melts it sprinkling salt is a process it has to start to the first to melt it maybe throwing water is worse will soon come back back to that I I he I know that most people think it's similar to the to the sprinkling of the salt but throwing water could be more of and I'll soon prove that now throwing cold water onto the onto the ice is a much slower process so that would definitely be [Applause] not but here you're creating water see they can discuss that if you throw let's say hot water onto the ice and the water still is with the ice so there's no noticeable discernable creation yeah yeah excellent they asked that Onis very good good cor but doesn't change the if you if you put an ice scbe in hot water and it melts right away it's also M because you don't have a creation of water that's noticeable but they ask it on T very good that's why said that's a good but but hot water is seems more of a m than ice and than than throwing the salt and I'll I'll prove that but let's move on until we get to there shoveling the snow when there is no within an a of course if it's not M what should be the problem and indeed the who was so critical about snow balls and he says you got to stop the children from throwing snowballs but so he is shoving snow I don't if he use a shovel but whatever he did it with was now I is also make to shovel snow within an AR I it might melt and then it's going to be but not OB again typically when the the weather is cold and you shovel it doesn't melt and the Mur says regarding masin he says create but but to to break a piece of ice is mut because who said breaking ice makes it liquid and even a little bit does happen it's says so basically shoveling snow within the a should be okay now I must mention if you live in a suburban area that there's not paved roads but there's dirt roads Earth earn roads there that's but shoving the snow in a city that it's should not be a problem the problem is the or the Z SH is involved in seeing a all a sudden shelving the snow we once this devoted a whole sh for that but basically the with the makes it a good candidate for Z in fact who's M there to crack to to crack the ice so people could walk he says but have a go break the ice now there's no doubt about it breaking the ice is less of an action takes less time than shoveling so if he considers breaking the ice of the and get a go the same applies to shoveling the snow the feels that it's better to sprinkle salt than shovel the snow because sprinking soul is 1 two three it's no big exertion and you finished shoveling the snow is a is a big deal like they say so he feels that if there's no if there's an alternative throwing salt is a better alternative than shoveling the snow but basically in all cases like like the of says if a guy could be could be asked to to do that job that's much better and the guy could even if the guy wants to use a snowmobile he could do it by hand that's his option again the snow bile smells like but basically the best option is have a do it if there's no available using salt is better if there's no other available nothing else available and that people will fall then by all means a you should shovel the snow and avoid a potential Sak but top priority is Public Safety now I wondered let's say it's out of the a let's say a person is a Wes up early in the morning comes to sh he knows there older people coming and it's hazardous is anything wrong on shabas to with your feet even though you're out of the are don't forget to move the snow a few inches away to make a path a few inches a few inch path don't forget we you're allowed to C allowed to move things less than doar nowar the is 6 feet 6 feet is a lot of space right if you make a path one foot that's Z very far fromus you allow to move something less thanas so snow is not the problem is but less than so I was surprised I didn't find anybody speaks about this should be M maybe it's m maybe it just Logistics how do you move snow let's say there's a high big snowfall without a shovel they carry the shovel out you're not allowed him but if it's and a person does it you know maybe he's a he's a afraid that people see him he they won't want to marry his his daughter because you know he's some he's so you do early in the morning but if someone knows his elderly parents coming to visit him he's afraid they're going to they're going to they going to trip so if he moves in the front of his house less than doar I don't see a problem unless I'm wrong please correct me now if it's a sheet of ice and there's no salt available the next question is within can you take an ice Chopper and literally chop the ice I'm talking about in there's no problem of carrying but maybe this is a a you're breaking ice this is worse than Breaking sow you're breaking ice but the EM is they look again and shouldn't be a problem there's no is in breaking ice per se breaking ice like crushing snow means you're making it into water you're breaking ice until you make it into water that's that's like rash says but if you but if you break the ice typically you break the ice into pieces you move the pieces to the side and then you have a walkable path and if it's a cold enough weather that the ice is maintained it's not going to make melted by crushing the ice so this is M and there's no problem maybe if later because it's smaller pie it's going to start to melt that's the third level of so what comes to mind and again that warms our heart what we know about that to break the ice whether was in a or in a lake to go to the mikah no so they did it and the EM is that the olden days the well froze they what what do about drinking water so here we see again the of how everything is they have just find it the tour in AIM qu you have to break the ice in the in in the be in the well to get the water don't forget Chas they have no water so they broke the ice the in the end of the fourth per shabas both say the same Cloud it's not shell because it's ice and you're not making it into water now they don't speak beish about a lake but they're talking about either water that's frozen or as I saw earlier the now this is that this when is it but to break the pieces of ice is no problem and if it happens a little bit so he says it's you're not intending to that and it's m and no problem with breaking ice and that's the to I know some but ignore them so that would I stress would would explain why he broke the ice to get to mikah now I you'll ask but the maybe you're making a functional PES cuz if the be is frozen you can't get water to drink now you broke the cover now you get to the water so the that I mentioned in the end of the fourth this and he says that just like you're allowed to break a to get to the because it's not considered so too you allow to break the bear to get to the water fine and says this the T because you're not creating the water what's the big deal adds a few words that has a tremendous impact if he says you're allow to break the ice to get to the water and like you allow to break the the to get to the gr but in a lake or is he's clearly why twice spells it out has a different problem to break a k to get to the food is okay but since the and C is it has a of and even if you say so breaking a the ice in the Nar or the be which is K is an and there's no doubt about it according to to break the ice to get to the would be a problem because you're breaking however this is for us hard to accept for two reasons first of all if you have a you're breaking something of a k I understand what's he breaking what's the worst he's breaking ice ice is water and see if you gim what do you mean break what are you breaking you're breaking water and the says it also water is the ice is water and to us today we have that CH that says that that ice does not obstruct the A and he brings a r from the h that broke the ice to get to the mikah theab quotes this he says you're allowed to break the ice to go to the Mikvah did it because you're not breaking anything you're breaking water in other words it's back to original that when something is ice it's really water and there's no spere by water so you break something that's that's a problem so although so breaking eyes to go to would be problematic but the end of and says that he says and there's no on plus as I saw the say did it by theik obviously it must be he makes sort of you could you could be made so to go to the or if you need water for or you can make otherwise you should be now this is all regarding a now let's get to snow on the pavement so the it would be the same problem like the you have a problem because it's part of the ground like there's no problem because there only water my when he was learning so obviously it was a lot of a lot of Vite but there wasn't any physical Vite he woke up in the morning and his neasa during the winter was always Frozen so you got to break the neasa ice to get to the water that's probably M even like because in the worst scenario it's in a and there's no no in a the next question is walking someone asked me to sh which I was very M because it leads us to a beautiful part of this Su there was a he was I think it was in mountains whatever it was but there was a path a narrow path but next to it was beautiful clean snow like in the mountain before you have all the you know the this the traffic and he likes walking the snow he had boots like why not does he have the da walk on the on the shoveled path can he walk in the snow the same child is sending children outside to play with the with the snow so until today said what's the problem it's not M even if it is dirty snow but you're not touching it so listen to an interesting let's say you have a thin layer of of snow and you have a ye let's say a gra okay physically and when he steps on the snow it crushes it is that a problem so listen theber that he's allowed on snow is he's melting the snow in other words the was convinced walking on snow was definitely so inber the given is [Applause] that Dr T quoting his father the rush my father was n by and you can't compare it to because but walking on snow is so we see that all the walking on [Applause] snow n didn't say awesome but n now here's one point we have to iron out Rutenberg was like walking how do you compare the two walking is a suff that even walking even which is because you didn't do it's even though but it's only it's it's his body but not him so he's holding that even walking which is therefore he properly Compares it to the r that was why is he with because not now how do we so it's interesting the doesn't discuss this in he first puts the of I think it makes it easier to understand you to walk on the snow see marber M and the rush was n now why did the why what's the regarding has he doesn't speak about it he just quotes to sheas but one thing I will tell you why is has worse because it's so now we're starting to see that walking on snow is is M for two reasons suff and even it's not a but we're not yet finished and here we come to the last piece of this puzzle the Taz on this is very unhappy with this and he says I have a better and his is since I'm just quoting English since it's to avoid stepping on snow because who T lived in Europe that the winter was most of winter was was was snow so if something never also lived in in Europe in the cold countries he says you can't go to on chabas so they both say walking on snow even if it's aome is only and it can't be aome because you can't avoid going on snow see you the next coton I believe that's why it's maybe don't foret they had to walk far distances they didn't have restrooms in the in Outdoors so the t is really using this e to be now says that if it's you could avoid it better to avoid it but it's m understandably so it's m we have no other choice we don't have the as issue the question is our question can a person that there's a clear path he wants to walk on the snow he feels more com he enjoys it so the if it's not a I see no reason to ask if it is a then we have a problem because then we have what the even regarding so to walk on snow if you if it's a high snow and won't be transformed at all s P I think it's fine if it's a it's a small amount of snow and it's AA that you're going to transform it that would be a problem sending children Outdoors to play with the snow they're going to jump on it and everything that might be more cover so you have to 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in the rain so your clothing is full of rain how you to continue walking you're carrying the water I what do you mean carrying water that's not a problem but the gor says the quotes this that if someone TS in a lake before he walks He should shake of all excess water cuz he carrying the water so what's the carrying water on the body or on clothing so there's a few but the T says the beautiful terets and he says that in the lake you could be killed careful but when you're going in the rain you have no other choice you can't be you can't be n so nevered walking with rain on now the question is how about when you're walking with snow we think about it it's really I would like to ask you how are you going to do it you're walking with a hat and coat and it's snowing heavily when do you stop the shake off the snow every Kaz of snow there's always snow you're going to stop every second you're not going to get anywhere you're going to miss doing so really it's the N for sure it's no good but 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