Sitting In The Sukkah. When & When Not? - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

[clears throat] [cough] Thank you so much. I'd like to welcome everyone to sitting in the and when not sponsoring email before Yam we try to give there we have table talk to talk about over the Yam so I would like to talk a little bit about sukus And the shouts that come up. We hear we hear someone wants to go on a trip and he wants to go to places there's no suka. Is there a heard there's a happen to eat out of the suka? Someone's flying by plane on could he eat out of the suka? And we have a new shila this year. I mean recent years I should say where there are so many sukas built on the streets and a person has to walk to get to his destination. Someone asked is you allowed to walk through a suka? We know you're not going to make a shortcut out of a of a medishapa does that apply to a >> so so the question is if there is such a problem or not so as we always say if you have one usually get the answer to all the questions and this should not be different we'll talk about a lot more but it's all the question really of boils down to what does it mean to soon see limit or is it defines the mitzvah does that mean that when you go away you'll eat out of the [clears throat] so we have to look at the sources where we find this concept theor says if they're traveling by day and night by day and night if they travel by day they're part by day now which means someone's on traveling and it's not a mitzvah because the mitzvah has a tour of it's different. This is a traveler [clears throat] and is allowed to eat no doubt about it even a full bread meal. Why? So Rashi says and [clears throat] just like the whole year a person doesn't feel restricted and he's willing to leave his house to go In other words, there's a new expression of containu. If you're allowed to leave your house during the rest of the year, you're not on the house arrest. You could do what you want on you're allowed to go on a trip and eat out of the that's the [clears throat] pastas of this. Now, Rashi chooses an interesting word. You go. Now means business which might be a mitzvah but has the same like rashi you're allowed to leave your house and leaves out the word. So in other words the first expression of means you're not under house arrest you're allowed to go where you want if you end up in a place where there's no eat the second is also the same speaking about a watchman who's watching fields and orchards. So the says he's allowed to eat out of the suka. Why? So Abaya says came to Du because it's going to be such a big schle to shle his bed and everything and make a suka in the fields. It's just too difficult to make a suk in the field. So, so does not like this this reason says the reason is because if you're going to sit in the so oh he's sleeping now he's enclosed in a four walls I get steel but is quick to point out also holds holds from but why does he say this new reason that's because he felt The of making a is not a but as we see from the gmorra both and say a watchman is why to do in fact the explains why is it going to do according to ra also because during the rest of the year you don't do things that you lose money if he's going to sit in the lose all the the the fruits they're going to be stolen so we have number one number two watchmen then We have another expression of this and that is the actually as well and says now we know is a big it's more than a share for itself but what do we see from this why but the cash is bigger because there is no mitaya by other mitzvah. Okay, a person has why is there because is not when you're sitting in your dining room and you're uncomfortable it's raining in you don't stay there you you call a and you go to a different room so says because it's also a form of [clears throat] and this is in in all the say besides in fact there are more and tough takes it a step further. Let's say someone's sitting in the suk and it's pouring and he's but he decides I'm going to stay in the anyhow if you're and you don't go out. Now the big question is we learned in why is he a terror is different when there's no is the duru. So if there's no and you're sitting in the suk and you're being on being agonized and so what are you gaining? You see the mitzvah of suk is going to do if it's mit there's no mitzvah. So if you're sitting anyhow it's called the and we'll soon see why sat on when it was raining but we definitely see and now we see the fourth is in it's a actually the says how many sudas do you have to eat on suk is suk is not pes 14 no you don't have to eat any sudas except for the first night so the question is what's the what's the hold and 14 to eat in the on you know why to do on a regular day you have two meals a day do it on as well so you have the to sit in the 14 times twice a day say just the opposite right but what does that mean that means during the rest of the year you could do what you want you could eat one suda or two sudas or no sudas you can fast. So why is suk is different? So in other words both and hold and the duru dominates. The question is which way do you go? But here we see something interesting that ones all agree there's no to have a suda. We'll soon see about but there's no of sudis is a we like so there's no per se to sit in the because you don't have to have a suda it's came to do you could have um fish and chicken and fruit and not have to eat in the we'll soon see but let's let's go but no doubt about it we like to is a. So if you noticed all of the case that we mentioned the four goras are all the fifth gum is where the gmorra says make the suk your and this is ara make the suk your house for the seven days and therefore why and therefore bring out the nice and the nice bedspreads and you should also So strange word means go for a stroll in a small suk. How do you go for a stroll? We'll soon seem and learn in the so here we see the real t of means make the suk your house for those seven days. But here it's more of a makay don't be cheap bring out the nice stuff even go for teal and learning in the suk the the this the next kimra is all and that is about keeping pots or plates that are used in the suka we'll soon see the details but what's wrong with put bringing a pot into the suka what's wrong with leaving dirty plates in the suka so the garra says and they're trying to explain This is a concern of [clears throat] another gimra and that's the famous of eating. You're not allowed to eat a meal out of the but you could have a snack meat. In fact tells a story about they gave him less than a to eat and he ate it in the house. I wisely run out to the suka. So if you're so here we see the concept of is because of there is one more and you look it up in says are also because so that's what we have basically we have seven most of them are kus But we also see the like the says you should live in the all seven days like you live in your house but more than that emotionally psychologically say goodbye to the house make it a and the is the in fact the and others suggest I know it's not done but they suggest that you should not cover the dining room table with a regular shabas or yumptive tablecloth to show I'm not living here now. No one will do that. No one will get away with that. Especially if the eat in the house. So be covered. I'll cover. But the point is to make the that is the objective of our so now let's apply bashem to all the various shas. I'll go again we'll go a lot more than just the question of capandria or a vacation or a trip. First question I want to ask a question that's much more challenging than it sounds. If someone eats matzah the first day of pes okay let's remind night night we have the matzah by day you eat matzah no of matzah that's p right only the nights of pes but if someone has a breakfast he just washes and benches he has to make question we just learned that there's no to to eat in the suka because to do so why do all of a sudden if you do it in the suk you make a and if there is a reason why don't make a eat matzah on the first day or any other day so for us the terrorist is so posh it's not a kasha because there's no mitzvah of eating matzah except for the first night you want to eat matzah the first day but there's no the mitzvah of suk is not eating a suda the mitzvah of suk is going to the mitzah of suk is learning and teal and bottling. It means living in the suka. So you could go seven days without eating a suda. You could eat vegetables and meat if especially if a person is allergic to to wheat products. He goes seven days without eating wheat. No problem. But you can't go seven days without living. Living means learning and and sch smoozing and and sleeping. So the only thing the is saying is there's no if to have a suda. You can eat other foods, but there's a mitzvah of so if you decide to eat a suda, you make a because that's the mitzvah. So it's misleading to think there's no that we don't need aud But if you do have a suda of any time now the truth is I said because the the meaning always was to make on anything you do in the go into the to learn to sleep was and say that's we only But it's so that's why if you do decide to go into the and make a aud next question also I'm sure you're wondering we said that we pass like there's no in the because you don't have to eat a suda question mark what happened to sudas what happened to suda shabas don't you have to have a suda because of suda shabas and yamt So what do you mean you have to go into only the first night? So in a few words and that's an hour you've cut your test and he continues on to as well and he says a beautiful to the let's say someone is pretty allergic to wheat products. He has a problem. He's gluten-free but he'll eat just the minimum. And he asks you tell me what's the minimum shabas and so we all say a but that's not true is a is a to you all you need is a kazayas good so on the first day of sukus this this person is allergic will eat a kazayas of bread does he have to eat in the suka absolutely not how do I know is less than a you can eat so now we have an interesting scenario of requires a is only that in you have to have a suda of and that could be eaten theoretically out of the pill. Now Mr. does say that we always try to have a on every and even the first night that it's akish that we have a kaz even if you're not hungry you have to go in the suka and eat a kaz even they're supposed to have a kaya but the bottom line is there's no of having a amount of a that's what mean so theoretically a person could go without sitting in the suka except for the first night, first second night that is with the next question is an incredible insight into maybe it's but is quoted in a reliable someone asked a very important question that people are very makid that they don't leave the suka for anything they try to stay in the suka some people even learn and d in the suka so Someone asked them is that getting to Duru you're forcing yourself to be in the it sounds like you're under house arrest it's the opposite so man said yeah there's something called which will soon see but this this is his decision he enjoys it what's wrong but then he says something I'm going to quote because it's so incredible there was a that did everything in the suka pardon me including going to the bathroom he doesn't say the details but the he redeemed himself in the bath in the suk as well. Okay, I'm not getting into perspective of that, but I think he missed the boat. He missed the point because even when he if he would decide to go out of the to go to the bathroom, he still has a mitzvah of I what do you mean he left the whatever? So he says because the mitzvah is when you're in your house, you leave your house occasionally, right? You leave your dining go to the bathroom. So living in the suk dictates sit in the suk like your house and there are two parts this and so says if it's legitimate reason to leave you get the mitzvah anyhow and is there's a key when he leaves the now this is a new ramification of is saying that you have to go to davin or you have to go to shopping the mitzvah continues that's part of the mitzvah came to but the main point is you're not under house arrest. I mean a person lives on on on 48th Street, right? And he goes to sh on 53rd Street. So he's saying he he moved. He didn't move. Just he's still home but he's just going someplace. Dad came to Duru. He's anchored in the suka. The mitzvah continues. Now uses a pretty strong lion that you're a mitzvah. Now I would hear maybe it's not a spirit to a mitzvah. And that I saw in another beautiful chuva the sea the glo in it's really a different focus but he points to a question that bothered him we know that if you leave a place a location is a but when someone's in the middle of a suda in he has to go to so he has no time to bench he goes to the sud goes to comes back you don't make an so why not why So he says the same the same is the mitzvah of is not just sitting in the it's part of is leaving when you have to so he says it's not a sick in the mitzvah now he doesn't say you get for the mitzvah but it's part of the mitzvah is living for seven days in the which means going to shul going to the bathroom going to where you have to go but it's not a break it's not a heik in the mitzvah Why? It's pain to do. So here he says something a little milder. He's saying that the mitzvah that the that it's not a his mitzvah but then he adds similar and he says I saw I guess in the you get a mitzvah when you go out of the and into the okay going I understand why going out so he says that there is a kitzvah when you leave legitimately. So here we see a very new application of gain to do which is important to mention because people are a little nervous and they feel guilty they're leaving the suk and they worry relax the mitzvah is to live normally you're not the whole rashi says of the der means you're not in the house arrest I had the sh once a bak said his parents ask him to go go out go to the house and pick up some get some from the house but I'm afraid I'm leaving the suka maybe I should tell my parents that day I should ask my sister to go cuz she's But more than that, it's not a steer to the mitzvah. When you're going out of the as part of the use of the suka, that's not a steer to the mitzvah. Now, this leads us to the next question and that basically is all mitzvah is not is a virtue. There was one of the that had a that if someone's from he's from eating it on why and all the later jumped on this go it can't be it's not true it's a in only now what oh that we understand very well because the mitzv when you're there's no mitzvah but there's no for in fact who doesn't know the quoting both and in the the famous story of whoever it may be who was someone that was very sensitive to wine he drank wine by the night had a headache that's only to Now this led me to the next question and someone once asked I thought he was joking but I looked into it and I found it's not so off track let's say it's raining on sukas now ka there was some that stayed in the suka anyhow and they said that leaving the suka so some of them are fine but he had a better he says I have a big umbrella you know the the big umbrellas you know the bell calls it a g umbrella I call it a umbrella you're walking you could take people with you but anyhow a big umbrella I'll hold it and that is of course and I'll eat and I don't get a drop wet because it's a really does a good job is that for rain so I say you have an oil so this is discusses he says there's no problem of oil that's oil because the oil suspended by your hand is not an oil and I saw goes back 100 plus years ago And then also says an umbrella that's held up by a human being is not an oil enough to the oil. So I believe it's a good idea. But he says that that's not going to do. When you have a leak in your dining room, you don't sit with your umbrella. It's all modern. Now to me because typically was very close to and he quotes I did see the he said he heard that the that the briskov when it was raining would hold umbrella and sit in the suka. So I don't know you know he doesn't bring that but the truth is there are two issues number one you have to clarify if the oil of the of the umbrella is which is not of course we don't use an umbrella but it makes sense if that if you hold that is not this would be a very good now last year if you recall sukas came out very late in the season and that's why it was cold cold to the extent that people could not sleep in the suka This year it's I don't know about today but this year it's early in the season and it still might be hot but both of these are a good example of kadu. No doubt about it. If someone is very very sensitive to heat and he can't bear the heat his house he has an air conditioning. The suk is nothing. If it's very cold and he can't bear the cold, he'll get sick. But here you see the give a clause. It's not an exemption and you know goodbye. Try to avoid the problem or try to relieve the problem. Now see today it's very easy. You get a heater. Hopefully it makes you get a a safe heater. Keep it all night. But today a heater will soon see is an easy option. In those days it meant building a heating system. There was no electric heating system. It means a furnace a fire which is dangerous. But he says does it let's say it's cold European could be cold. So the food is congealing and then when the food congeals the soup is getting a jelly. He says, "You know what a would be? Get a bowl of hot water and put it under the soup. You'll make a a sukaso." We would say, "What? I got to do that. I don't have to do that, but it's an at you'll keep the soup warm." The mur discusses when you want to learn the suka, but it's a big schle taking this farm to the house and back goes have a good find a place to keep it in the suka. Of course, if it rains, make sure you remove them. But the place can say instead of pinging find an back which is important to mention. Let's say it's chilly outside. So you say okay now I'm going to eat quickly. I'll run into the house afterwards. Why do that? Put on a sweater if need be a coat and be comfortable. You don't have to run out. But why eat in a safety? You could avoid the issue. The point is mitay is a when it's unavoidable. If you could make it work, make it work. Back to Mr. in a different place also says if it's cold, so get blankets, extra blankets. The point is when there's a so when you could relieve the relieve the mit that is recommendable. Now when talking about heat, so there we the those days they didn't have an for excessive heat. It was hot. It was hot. Today we still have some people still have a fan which is not bad. If it's very hot a fan probably doesn't work. So again there areas I'm not saying to do it but there's an invest in a portable AC that they have or something a cooling system. [music] Some people actually they have a suka that they build with an air conditioner installed in it because every other summer every other suk is warm. The point is if you could do it, do it. And again, I'm not saying it's a but definitely a fan or a safe heater when it's cold. Again, a safe heater means there's no a safe heater is a small investment and it does a good job and it's safe that should be done. The next question is what can't be done in a suka? So that we saw earlier and I'll just read because it's a whatever you you cups you're using to drink from you to keep in the why even though you're finished officially but a person might drink more plates after they are finished you finish the first course don't need the plates lying around the suka. It's not going to do. You finish the first cause, take away the plates, bring in the next cause. And that's why this is as a treat the house with the dignity and respect like your house. Treat the suk like your house. I should say now to rush hurry up quickly up eat normally. You're finished. Clean up like you do in the house. Rather I must mention there's mash of the that the of keeping used dishes in the suk is only at the end of the meal from from first cause to second there's no to remove the plates which is like why not in in a normal house you don't leave the soup plates during the main course but will say the following a person has to have a little bit don't make people nervous oh let me take your plate people let people finish you finished take in the take in the extra plates and start the next course what is spells out that initially the minute was you're allowed to bring a pot into the sukum if there's food in the pot. You bring it in to serve. But since people were sensitive to that, the minute became we don't bring a pot in the suk. Which means even though really bringing a pot of soup is something that's done. But then again by the shabas table you don't plunk down a pot a pot pot of ch on the table. You put it in a serving bowl, a nice serving bowl. So that's why the meaning has become that we don't bring a pot even with food. A father an empty pot must be removed. But even a pot with food we put it into a serving bowl outside of the suka. Some people that especially they have they live on the second floor and the suka is on the in the ground level in the backyard. So to have to make it a better plan. I think the at bring the pot down to the suka have a little table outside of the suka. You could put the the pot there outside of the suka and from there you could serve. This way you have the best of both worlds. But the point is here we find being a sort of ara because you have to keep the suka like your house with the same elegance and with the same [clears throat] so this is why it's important to keep together. It's more the attitude that makes the more. Now I must mention another important factor and that is the says that has like a carbon just like on the so the is so besides the duru there's an is of we don't have enough that that's not within the context of the mitzvah suka has an inherent kadusha that has to be maintained at all times. What I think is kad mentioned and that is to make this part of is make the suka as comfortable as possible. You know there was I still remember like used to be like the mainstream in it. You you you took a a a extension cord and you got a light bulb and with a a socket and you you hang you hung a a light a bulb into the suk very inefficient very weak lighting and then a person finds it dim and depressing today it's an inexpensive investment they have these lights strip lights and they have these um LED lights you want to learn the suka you have enough lighting this is a simple example of getting the dur make it comfortable make user friendly. Of course, get a comfortable bed. You know, people I can't sleep in the suk. Of course, you got a bed like a cat, but get a a more comfortable bed. It's to get a comfortable chair. You know, there was an old mini. You brought all the old stuff to the suka because there was no schllock in the olden days and it rained in. So, you have a rickety table and a rickety chair. Today we went up a little bit in in the in the making the suk duru to make it as comfortable as possible because then a person enjoys it when it's not comfortable when he feels arroy when he feels it's you know barely you know the table when you sneeze the whole table shakes he doesn't enjoy being in the suka so again good lighting and and all these things enhance the enjoyment of the suk I remember like yesterday I went to visit bank of kamkis in his house in my incidentally it was a pretty cold Today there was snow out and he was sitting with his coat and we were talking and he I I I saw that by him. I didn't see it anybody else at the time. He had a a phone installed in a suka. Now today we know what the word installed means cuz everything is wireless and and cordless. But then he had to run a phone wire into a suka. I guess he realized that he was a a clament. He was a he was a manic and he got phone calls throughout the day to keep running into the house would make the suka sort of a a strain and a stress. Running in running out. So he had a suk he had a phone in his house. Okay, today rather bringing the phones to the suk is no big uh no good idea. Sometimes it distracts us further. But the point is whatever you know will make you more enjoyable in the suka. That is definitely part of the of now a sticky question is people asking says no you bring the dish to China to the table. Can we use disposable plates? Now if you use China nice dishes on chabas so that would be ideal in the suk as well and that's t way to do it. However, the oldest cla some people have again the suka on ground level in the backyard. They're in the second floor. They have canar a very big family, extended family over and it's a big job bringing out the plates and usually children break a few of them. Number two, washing all those plates is no easy feat and it makes a strain on the balis. They're working hard enough juggling sudis and family. So again, if you could do it, wonderful. But I think a and you know, I saw somebody asked me so his wife wants to use disposable on Shabas, but he has a problem because disposal doesn't have kay and for you have to have chabas. So he didn't say these words but he said like in that tone your wife is juggling multiple responsibilities raising your family and getting a job and doing everything and shabas she's falling apart as it is she has to wash all the dishes he says the is he said the tastes good the jaw is good so on and you know when you could manage do with China fine but if it causes a stress on the that are working hard enough again it's a little bit It's not God they make a little nicer plastic but again a in is definitely within the context of because in one's house he also have good meas so should not be different. Next question is also an important question is what what else should be done in the so the says clearly bas the word typically is translated as a stroll a walk try to go for a walk in a today but is bigger because the doesn't have to be bigger than zion that's 2 and 1/2 ft square try to go for a walk in in sim struggles. How do you sleep in a suka? Zion al you have to crumble up he says but you can't go for a walk. So the em is that the word teal usually means going for a walk. You have a big suka fine we'll soon see I I found two good examples of teal but really what the is and that's the all the p say this teal means re recreation relaxation ground synonymous with relaxing is strolling but it means for example all the p I found three the the all say if you're playing a game of of course a kosher game play it in the suk I'm not saying it's a mitzvah of of limit playing a game but of sitting in the suka that's m the police can discuss if you have to you want to smoo with someone things that appropriate of course that's called teal reading kosher literature or playing a chess game if you want to play all those things are part of teal again teal literally means walk but in this context it means recreation or maybe seems to say there's a sha and teal what does teal include anything any other time you're spending quality time with family that's all the teal in the in fact he puts it very nicely he says that be careful what you what you do on onl but if you have to do it do it in the I use this someone asked me he has a whatever the reason is to do some of his work his paperwork on he must do it whatever the case is should he do it in the suka he's find like a stickle steerup he sitting in the suka and writing. But if it's mut then why not doing the suk? The question you have to be careful is with they're going to see their father sitting in the working. So if they understand or maybe then you know maybe should wait till they're not there that you have to that's your your discretion. But the point like the Mr. says and keep it. But once the person decides that this is appropriate for the then that's part of that should be done in the smooing current events again when it's not bordering on that should be done in the suka. Someone asked me he has to go at least a half every day on a treadmill. If you know what that mean, treadmill is exercise. I says, "I finally figured out a teal in the sukum. If you could bring that treadmill in the suka, you have a half hour of teal." And the truth is that's that that makes sense. Again, it's appropriate. It's health. It's something he need. Why not do it in the silk? Now, if it's a if it's very heavy, he can't shle it. No. So, you have to get involved with the the which might be a that's a different sug. But here's a perfect example of a teal in the suk. Now the big question is learning in the versus in the so we know that says that was given is even on but this seems to make it very simple all this quotes this is but extended it to in the why why not because you you you have a mitzvah of but when he can't concentrate he's he does a better job learning in the sh's base medish then he could learn out of the in other words the top first priority is learning or like would the sma from kite is first and foremost you have to do your best your learning question is where do you do better so that's very subjective some people could only learn when they have the noise of of the cult and the energy they that learning in the house they fall asleep no and if during the year never to learn at home you always go to I saw the says then you put them learning in the house because If you always go to the place where there's a a roar of a cold tyra suk is no different because top priority is learning. If someone enjoys the quiet oh so then you have to know is the suka comfortable is there good lighting is there the proper heating heating or air conditioning whatever it may be. So then the person has to then he has to know if he's going to learn good the mur in fact says if someone the a the air in the suk is not as healthy like like it is in his house. So I don't know exactly what [music] the problem is because then you learn the house. So the basic is like so basically it's the same thing but I I saw the lion of the of the yank is when someone could make it work that he be able to learn in the If you can make it work, that's but also remember what says a physical that he's not learning well is also part. So can't fool yourself. If you're learning top with with with a with a top eon and involvement at home fine in the fine if not go to shul and learn with the ganske. So again basically it is definitely sort of a subjective call. Another question is where to light the shabas. So this says the light is in the others say out of the in the house. What's the difference? So says of course the most train him a small suka there's a that will catch fire. That's no good. Then you have light in the house. But a bigger suka which you're comfortable lie in the suka fine light in the suka. Now I do I do believe our sukas today are probably never that suka katana. We have nice size sukis. If you keep the nis in the middle of the table in the middle of the table it doesn't catch onto the walls. The you should light in the suk. However, and here's important to mention. People that are getting older and their kids are children are either married or learning and they have no young children. So, they have a pretty safe environment at home and le Shabas the isa lights and takes a well-deserved nap and goes to sleep. But comes and we have to be we have to change gears. We have to be in the child safety mode. young come and if the woman goes to sleep and leaves the neighbors unattended any place whether it's in the dining room or in the suka children are attracted to fire I know why they like playing with fire and that's a very dangerous situation it could be a big house or a big my point only is from from experience you have to know that when we change gear from adults to young children things have to change of course leave a window open without a window bar even a So some people have a you know a weak uh screen that's not doesn't do the trick. You have to be careful to change your attitude and make it young child safety and one of the expressions is the people are in the suka children running in the backyard. Why not? It's back your backyard. They walk into the suka and they see fire or even if they don't mischievous like that but they bang the table and the candles fall down. So you have to make sure that it's completely safe even with children around. Then light in the suka and typically our suk is our now if someone is afraid light in the suk. So the so the say the second best place lighted if the eat in the house light on that table. If you could light a place that you could see the narrows from the from the is even better. But one thing in don't light in in the don't light in the suka and bring it to the house of vice versa. Apparently the went on the nearest in the house and bring it to the suka of vice versa is sort of a shin mo but no doubt about it. Find the best place, the safest place and make sure it's safe taka and light there. The new sha that we have in recent years when many many blocks are blocked by sukas and you have to walk either walk through the suka or walk around. So the question is says in both and you're now going to make a shul into a shortcut. For example, you want to go through the shul to get to the other side quicker than going around the shul. So that's an isidon of making a shul like a pa. It's based on a Mishnam. It's a terrible disrespect for the shul. The question is, does this apply to a suk? For example, instead of walking all around, you walk through the suk. So you're wondering why should it apply to the suk? Maybe has relevance here because we learned that is like the is maybe there's a cap like it is by more than that. So too in this other context you have to realize that a bid we don't use a house for a capri. So I saw the in says bas should not walk through the to make it a capandria. Now it's interesting he he he he mentioned but the original writes it's not like aes so one of the writes that there's no by it's only by a basis the probably is that even though suk as kadusha but it's still not a bas so all the can point to this is that there's no isra by now there's another because if you had your road and used to walk through and then they built the shul on your road so the says if you were there first you'll continue using kapandria no all of us walked on the streets of borak and flapush recent until recent years walked in like the rest of the year. So we were there first. So no doubt about it you can walk through a shul a a a suka no problem of capria. What I was thinking is maybe we could find another case of of mat before you walk into the I have a mind I want to be the mitzvah of b then once you have a mitzvah of suk there's no of kapandria the only issue is writes in one place that if someone it happens to be in the suka he wants to pay up a debt so he goes to goes to his malva and he gives him money who and the malva is in the suka there's no mitzvah there's no k mitzvah there because it's mikma he's not suk that I understand but I'm telling you if you decide I'm going to the suk to give it a mitzvah of yeshiva so this might be our second expression besides the the other case of the treadmill it might be a walking through a and now we we have two more questions I guess we can say but definitely very challenging and the first one simply as we mentioned earlier someone wants to take his family on a trip he never has a chance to go with family. He's working. They're in yeshiva and they're in school. They live in Lakewood. They live in Muny, but the whole family's together. He wants to go on trip. To his dismay, the place he wants to go has no suka. I mean, many many recreation areas have plenty of sukis. But let's say he wants to go to a place there's no suk. Can he eat and drink a bread meal out of the suk? How about if he's on a plane? if he's driving. So the MS is it makes sense to say you are it doesn't mean because that's a different it doesn't mean only eating fruit and and and snacks because and the and others say is a perfect example of add I found it funny he says but don't say since you're going in the midst of by running around to all these places because sitting in is also does not mean running around it means being there so doesn't like the of mitzvah but definitely however there is one word in rashi that might change the picture rashi says says just like the rest of the year you don't refrain from going out so too on someone asked this question can I go on a trip and eat out of the says it's the only is going to which is not a mitzvah but it's a mitzvah doesn't say but it's we find some for Right? Because so felt to go on a on a trip just for the fun of it. Who said it's Rashi chose the words then adds now? Think consider this. Someone decides I want to go on an overnight hike. I'm going to have a eat by by by campfire. I'm going to sleep in a in a a little of outdoors. I won't even take a tent because it's nice weather. I'll sleep me and I'm out in the in the the big outdoors allowed to eat and sleep out of the suk. It can't be. So [clears throat] emphatically says the the is only for something similar to and then he said beside that you're going you put himself in a that's a question of has the same exact approach if you have a reason to go but you can't go just for a trip and then he adds also he quotes but if you could do it before left the Yam then you can't go on Yamo and he bring he brings from from now the big with this is that in doesn't make sense because the whole says just like the rest of the year you're not under house arrest you're allowed to go where you want so too on so why do you say it's only Rashi says that's true but says the same and leaves the word. So Rashi says maybe just because that makes sense the person leaves the house with but who said it's limited to that and more than that if it would be that's considered mitzvah so maybe it's already mitzvah. So how do we get to this conclusion that we're limiting him to go? The whole dua means you're not limited to go. You're not under house arrest. So why do we say all of a sudden that you can't go unless you have a good reason. And this is why I did see a number of that Rabbi Yash officially is quoted as saying you could could go that adds another he says with family perhaps could be considered. What's the mitzvah? You enjoy the being with your family the it's enjoying the so if you enjoy going with your family that you don't see a whole year why isn't that also of so this is why this question I wish it would be more it's interesting Mr. Bur says we once explained the of he says just like the rest of the so too on so one of the oh you see it has to be like but it can't be just a trip and I would say why can a mean trip you you don't see your family a whole year do you live in different states finally you're all together. But I want to add to that himself he revisits the question and he says if you he says don't go a trip but let's say you flew to Israel and you're only there for you're coming right coming right back home you're allowed to go on sightseeing because no other time then he adds if you go to a different country but you're only you're allowed to go sightseeing even though you're going to have to eat out of the why because it's so I want to say if if the sightseeing in France allows you to eat how about spending time with quality time with family there's no other time again you go after after who has time to go you can make it work but if you can't make it work maybe this would be the going to France why can you allow go with your family now you want to say I I'll go I'll I'll only eat snack fine that's a good it's a good approach had that approach but to say it's when there's no other opportunity and there's also a real I saw a very nice I think it puts it in perspective it's he says there's certainly there's No haba to wait. Why you allowed to leave your house? You're allowed to leave your house on circus. That's game to do but it's a to leave your house to go on a teal. It's but you're not you're not calculating correctly. So that's true. If you could avoid it, avoid it. But if someone has no other choice, no other time to go. We have this especially when he's in a car or a plane. That's a a real which is is really in quoted by says Huna was going for and he wouldn't even drink water out of the even though he was terribly thirsty. He had three major. So everybody wonders what's what's the iss but if someone is more and doesn't and goes and only eats just snack and last but not least I want to mention the the in the beginning of he starts off with a strong not appeal a strong condemnation he says to be in the eat and sleep and teal And a person should not leave. If he does, he's and he says if you have to go into the house to get something, send someone else to get it or go and come back quickly because when any moment you're out of the suka, you're losing it's a mitzvah. Now this at first glance is a this is the opposite almost of rashi andisuru. They both say can't do means you're not in the house to rest. The quotes who needed an hour walk a few times a day. So he took an hour he on if need be he would take three strolls out of the suk. Of course 3 hours of walking out of the suka. Why? He needed it. So how do you say that if he stays in his house an extra mitz? to you're not you're not under house arrest. So in he says the beer in is if I would pay you $100 per hour just stay in your house stay in your dining I want to observe you would you run out to trip you go tomorrow right suk has a tremendous so even in the house you live with you wouldn't give him $100 an hour stop to go on a trip so why is different in the He has a different quote but the same idea. If you would have a house that has every tin under the sun would you leave it to go the suka has a tin that's called say loosa the suk they leave the suk. So he's trying to get from different angles to give it a perspective that if you enjoy the suka so much like you enjoy your house so much you wouldn't leave your house in that context. So why in the in other words even to you live with do that by also I this very sh says in other words take things in account but after all this beautiful said that we don't like a person that feels stressed out and strained oh I got to get back to the defeating the purpose of getting to in other words there is to go on a trip is a to go into your house. If a person feels that he can't leave, he has or whatever or he's so tense about leaving the house, he's missed the point. The point is to make the suka enjoyable. If you want to go into the suka and enjoy it, good sadikim that sat in the suka when it was raining, they enjoyed the suka. No, they enjoyed the suka more than than going into the house. That was their a little bit that has to do here as well. The point is we have to make the suka the place of great pleasure. And basically the the point has to be I saw this takadas. The aderas writes about himself. He had a tremendous love for the suka. Nothing got him out of the suka even if it was cold even if it was windy and I never left the suka. And then he writes I started thinking I might be guilty of not make kaduru. You hear what he says because I I feel like I'm I'm I'm stuck in the suka. But he says, "I enjoyed it so much it didn't bother me." So I think the right approach is we should learn to appreciate the suka enjoy the suka. But if someone feels he can't be in the suka that long that's the going to do but we should have the we should have to all of you. Smith the next sh from Smith will be Monday first at 12:00 12:00 seeum seeum Okay, let's just keep up the good work. Okay, let me just go go around please go. Let's just quickly learn today. First of all, the mitzvah we saw seven different the but the basic is to make the enjoyable that's why really less than a that's why could be out of a suk if you have a kazay but we do with the in the suk of course precious that even if you leave the suka that's part of the mitzuk came to Duru. So don't feel strained when you have to go into the house to help the wife, help parents. There also said it's not a heftick in the mitzvah. There's the is to realize that the that that's one package and that's why so many are based on this. For example, the is only by because it's not going to duru the sitting with an umbrella. Some did it and some didn't. If you feel mitz then don't do it. Obviously if you feel that it's a great idea wonderful because it's not a problem of course if it can't be done make it as comfortable as possible of heating fan air conditioner get the right furniture a good bed a good table a good chair. It makes a suka pit a real tank like it's supposed to be. Cups can be left in the suka. Plates that are used and pots certainly should not be in the suka. disposable plates when you need a little you have to have also if it's too hot to use China that is to have a pleasant and a stressfree another point I wanted to mention is games or literature smoozing if it's acceptable for it's acceptable for the as well that would be teal make if you can make learning workable in in the if a person and function learning well in a little small suka go to BME still dominates lighting in a suka should be done if it's 100% safe and keep in mind the children roaming around they shouldn't make any s it's to walk through a suka the eight would be if you want to make a teal by having three in the mitzvah try to find a place for a trip that you could eat so the family sees that you're but If a person has no other choice, it's no other time. There is to have a full meal out of the in a pler and is to make the suk enjoyable. So you see and of course we see the great mitzvah.