Selling Using Non Kosher Food - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

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Today we have a fascinating sugia happens to be rather display just laying the para but someone got a very expensive gift a trade for gift from a co worker it was meat meat platter he said it was worth at least $150 they have meat and they have dry meat but he got a gift of tarus and he wanted to know could he give it to someone else he owes a go he owes an acquaintance a gift he heard epish now to have ho from a from trade for me to a trade for food. Now the truth is in a business this is especially in the holiday season you have to give the gisha work as gifts. They have wine chocolate and the question simply is when you have a tar traus are you allowed to use it give it away and sell it? Is there an issa a special issa on using tarus? We just heard a shil where someone had a big shipment of vegetables and came to this business and it was fully infested. Terri terrible infestation of worms. He can't eat it strafe. Can he sell it to a guy? Of course. So I must make a point before we begin that if there's any let's say you're going to give it to a worker but he's not a go. He's aid. So that's now he doesn't care. He doesn't care but we care. There's no even if he doesn't care there's no. So today we're talking about where there's no whatsoever. Number one. Number two and this is also important there are certainly that are for example real so that you can't give away you can't have any whatsoever. You can't regift it. So today we're talking about number one it's no and number two there's no of it's not it's not it's regular tar is there an isa of using and benefiting from tar so the this should be a par speaks about >> [clears throat] >> Now the seems to be saying you can't eat ta fish or any tus for that matter. Now the implication seems to be if you're not going to eat it rather you're going to sell it or gift it give it away as a gift what's the is the Pik seems to be saying don't eat it but there's another p we just lamed it in par a that's even a bigger riot the says [clears throat] The toyra explicitly allows you to sell tarfus to a guy. So it can't be like this person heard you can't sell tarfus. The says you're allowed to sell. So we have good reason to assume that there's no such you're allowed you're allowed to have from if it's not. So therefore you're allowed to give it as a gift or even sell it. However, both and seems to save there is an oft means business. You can't do business with which is all understandable because they're all betray. So here the Mishna is telling us there's an is of by tarfus not only but we understand there's an isah of han but there's a special issa of with tarus [clears throat] there's another source and actually it's a gor in inl says if someone's For example, we'll soon see this is a very practical example. Someone's a big fisherman. He goes out sea and he catches fish. Inevitably in the in the nets this tray for fish. So up to that a fisherman or a trapper for that matter who catches trade for fish or trade for animals since he wasn't intending to make business from tus. It's namo. It sort of enters his trap. It's comes to him that's mut to benefit from. So the dak is obvious. Let's say it's not this. Let's say he goes out looking for trade for animals. It would be to sell those animals. [clears throat] And the third source is the beginning of perician. [clears throat] Now this is saying it can't be buti explains what does it mean? But listen closely. Whatever is fish for animals. So the word in these context is not it is. So now we have somewhat of a question mark. What how do we deal with this? The answer is very simple. A trade for fish. Good example. There's no isah. No. It's a you're allowed to get you're allowed to have but to make out of it that's the so it's not a but if you have there's an you can have any more often than not there's no there's an so you could you can't sell it but we'll soon see there are when you're not trying to sell it. But now the is and we'll soon see based on a is now to apply it and you'll see how clear this is. Let's start with a simple question. Someone has a shik if this is but he said you know what let me sell it. So he has a suffix. How do we deal with a suffix [laughter] is we just said is awesome. How do you deal with the suffix? So this should be very simple because the general is that a regular right now the big question is how do you look at the if it's the if it's it should be and here it seems from as early as and if you look at the rush and injuni growing but today is and interesting enough test what doesough test have to do with us that's the is of raising and raising so there the say that the is with tar and I quote consider with the lone exception of the of the heels based on a gillionis that the only now he's followed by who says that now the wonder where did he get that from in in the wonders where did he how could he say I think we're comfortable to say that hold that the is so now let's approach the the and all practical examples. So one thing we could say if you have a sophic this is treat like says that it's and then he adds even he holds the raon but it's based on a as we saw earlier and Therefore it's like a is like a so we treat okay now I want to ask you another question again you know we have to realize that the world is bigger than Brooklyn you know the world doesn't end by the Brooklyn bridge there's a big world and a lot of these shs either I heard or I saw mafurish so even though it's not neaya to us and barak and flapish but it's a different lifestyle when you live out of town I'll give you one of the common very common examples Someone has an a a supermarket in a not an out of town neighborhood which is Yiddish goes. It's not predominantly Jewish like our neighborhoods and he cannot survive unless he attracts goes customers because the the Yiddisha clientele is not so much. So he wants to at least attract Gisha customers by doing the following. You see a guy doesn't mind buying a Y is store if the price is right but Kisro milk and and cheese and and all the basic staples bread the Yiddisha brands are more expensive you know the milk is almost twice the price goes milk so he wants to at least have a service he'll write with big letters non kosher items and he'll sell a pakum bishum this way at least the basic staples will be you know moderately priced competitive to a Gisha store. So hopefully this will get him moreish customers. But this is a real of however if you notice all these they're all if you read the it's that's the that's bas me. In fact, the at the end of our spells it out a very important is only by whatever is there's no I did see one of the one of the early says that is more than a regular but it seems other parts not accept that as so the answer is Yes, this yid he has basically a store and he wants to compete and get some customers. It's mut to sell any and again and even if you hold even if it's awesome today we have certain but he's saying even if it's awesome it's makes with these things I'll give you another practical almost unavoidable as we know an animal that's the the hind part of it the back part of it it's called we don't eat really it's kasha it was but it's very hard to get out the from from the hind part of the animal. So the aarim it's not tra but we don't eat it. So what do you do with it? You can't throw in the garbage. It's a very expensive uh part of the animal. So the the standard min is they sell it to the gaisha butchers and get whatever they can get for get for it. The question is how could you do that? You're selling a tra piece of meat to a guy. Now of course the cow was kasha but it has kale in it. So again that's not edible that's has no taste but is so here we come to an incredible and that's based on a says but you're not allowed to eat at all but the pic stresses is so based on this the and it's all the that fat from a kasher animal even though it's a veiled because it wasn't but fat from a animal is even to do with it there's an it's better than regular you can't sell But you're allowed to sell or it's very posh because the only is part in the of the animal is right and so this is why the has become that we don't try to we don't try to get out from the hind part of the animal sell to a guy you're selling is so this is not worse now there are Bimda says it's even to buy and make business with it. You know it's a full full is but [clears throat] now another a good a good marshall again we live in a big world not just a Brooklyn a person in business ends up with offers that sometimes just irresistible but here's someone was offered to buy a a big amount of animals horses, camels. Now, what am I going to do with a horse and camel? Nothing. But businessman, everything is money. He wanted to know can he sell, buy and sell animals, a trade of animals? Of course, a camel's dra a donkey is strafe. A horse is strafe. So why not? This is a horse is strafe. But the one redeeming factor is that horses are not grown to eat. In fact, yeah, I was heard I heard that it's really illegal to sell horse meat. Horses are used in stables and then rides. But you have to realize it's not just today. In the old day, they didn't have car dealers. They had horse dealers. That was their mode of transportation. Can a from a year have a a rent a horse? He's making he making business from horses. Can he sell horses? So, [clears throat] however, there's a a tremendous that impacts many different [clears throat] you're not allowed to grow. Why? You can't deal with you can't even keep it in the house in the house in the farm whatever it is. Why do you have to come on to special because it's it's a regular. So has a tremendous impact on our that the only is of is things that are grown and raised to eat. Animals are not raised to eat. They're raised. There's no and the truth is right at the beginning spells this out the also. [clears throat] So in other words, there's an of but it's animals that or fish orim that can and are typically eaten but horses is no problem whatsoever. Of course is raised primarily for its meat and that's why of course it is but it's more than that. Not only is this you can't even have it in your house. You can't raise it on your farm. So that's why Misa it comes out based on this a Yid could have a pet shop. He could sell cats and dogs and parakeetses and and hamsters. They're all traveled. But it's not a and yes could have sell horses or buy horses or rent horses. are not. And the truth is the explained that just like is but the Torah gave the right to define what's this the same but but the Torah gave the right to say if it's not there's no so this is a key point that it seems the is of is if you're dealing with strafers all you're going to eat some of it but if it's not eaten then there's no whatsoever. So this is very a welcome that somebody there wouldn't be an is of even though it's tra so therefore selling again selling animals to a farm. Now typically the Ham camps do have little farms but they they don't carry tas they have cows and then and they have goats sheep of course is categorically can't deal with that >> what that's what I'm saying it has to be that's right that's what I'm saying now as I told you the do say that the has a special what's interesting in cotton quotes an early raise silk worms you think I'm joking but it's not he wants to make silk silk worms are awesome but you don't raise silk worms the has a sh from they want to raise rabbits because rabbits the the be here and the the the the leather of it is very expensive and it's it's a worthwhile investment. So he says it's no one eats rabbits meat. It's grown for its um leather or its hair. So it's not a meat just like horses person can eat horse meat but if it's grown for its produce not the food is the was asked about raising worms for food for goldfish and truth is raising worms today is also for bait for fishing. And he says that even though worms are is of but it's not it's not it's not raised and it's the raja was asked was he asked the question of making using leather of trade for animals. So he makes this distinction even though the animals tra you can't eat the meat of it but the leather is not a meatila. I once had a a frantic phone call for someone had a dry good store. True story. And he got all nervous cuz he just learned the other night that you can't have you can't do. So he wanted to know how could he sell his leather belts. It comes from animals presumably trade for animals. So I told him relax. It says leather products are not considered has a big and he says that gloves from from is also now of course it's to raise these to get the leather is awesome because there's a special raise them even you can't keep it on your farm But you walk into a store and they have gloves typically gloves and I I I never knew this but I learned it this week. Footballs of all things footballs come from the leather of daka. So someone asked me how could you play football? I says no there's no isah from it. You can't raise to make a football or to make a glove. That's but once you got it there's no it's not. So this is what the piskim discuss again something that maybe in Brooklyn is not so nega but around the world it is naya people that have dogs and they want to sell they want to give to their dogs dog food. Is there a problem of so the em is that there used to be an issue about the dog food containing is of so there's no there's no whatsoever of course now it seems that in fact they even asked once to ou to please give a ha on dog food and u politely refused we give a ha on dog food that shows that we're not thinking what what are you thinking you giving it to But the you need a maybe not on the package but if it's about but the here is canid sell this dog food it's presumably it's not kasha it's tra so the is dog food understandably is royal I mean it's made as dog food right they don't make inedible and again I never taste the dog food obviously but it seems it's royal them also Yet he says since they label it, identify it as dog food. So no normal human being would eat it. Even though it's and says if it's not the we to eat it there's no of and has an interesting because the I mentioned earlier it says that if the der is to raise horses just for the for the work of it it's he doesn't say what's it's what's so in other words even though the dog food in itself is nothing will happen but it's not no human being will eat dog food because he's not a dog is there anything wrong no but he won't do it so if held that I mentioned it's with I saw also the in the end of he has the same sh and he mentioned what I what I heard that even though you're not allowed to sell horsemeat for human consumption but people could eat it but since the mis no unlessy nibs would eat dog food it's very demeaning I'm out of dog so he is the same of doesn't mention it of course but he does say that since the it's not there shouldn't be a a a a any problem with selling dog food the next question is probably the most important group of questions and that's the question someone received a gift I just had the sham a nice platter of tray for meat. Obviously, it's at least a value $150. Wine could be that in that price bracket if not more. Even chocolate could be tradable gift and he has what to do with it. He has a Gisha cleaning lady. He has a Gisha coworker. He has a Gisha worker because he wants to regift it to give it to someone else. So the MS is there's no doubt about it. That's a form of you want to do you you have you have an obligation to to give a tip to your worker. So you'll take this tra of meat and give it to him. Why is that a problem? However, here we come to the key word and that's the we mentioned earlier in I'm sorry. This is what's known as the means it happened to it. It it came his way. It he it chanced upon it. What does that mean? So again, either you're a fisherman or a trapper and you put out a net and whatever comes is caught and now you realize you caught a trade for fish or a trade for animal. Can I sell it cuz I can't eat it. Can I sell it to someone else? So this is the head of this d even though you're selling pure tfish. But you didn't intend on making a business. I'm not selling trade for fish. What should I do? My my my my trap caught these fish. So since he's not it's to have and have and again the is known as because you didn't go out looking for it. But it's not just a par as we mentioned earlier. What is the talking about? Someone had a cow ker animal and he tried to sh it but it it didn't work. It was a or the animal had an internal illness and it's a tra so either it's an aa or a but it's a animal why it's 100% who cares it's a cow it's how can we sell to the terret is this tra animal is a new expression of misd I'm not trying to sell I'm trying But what should I do? So is a Mishna regarding fisherman and it's a regarding an aborted aita leaves the meat as 100% tra but there's noises. So this is the very broad of this the point the is that really the starting point is you have have enough from meat of you can't do I'm not doing I'm trying to and it didn't work out I'm trying to fish catch fish and I caught a trade for fish so the is if it's not it's back to the of so no doubt about it someone goes aoid. He goes fishing know where by the ocean over here and he catches a huge fish but to his great dismay it's so he can sell it to a or swap it with a go fish it's true this is of this is the where they slaughter animals if it's not a ends up being a trade for or the animals trade they will sell the animal to a non kosher meat store and recoup most of the losses. Now that's the if a person has a cray for fish and he doesn't have the time to go sell it, he can give it to someone else to sell for him. It's not a on the person. The point is this is but let's say the fellow the says you know what I'll buy it off you happy with this good he goes out and he looks around for the best deal to make more money that's no good because the second person the so to speak he's already ach it's on the you could sell to get back your money but not to go make a business in fact says you you can't make the of for example someone doesn't have a or it cost too much to he takes the kash animals and he kills them and then he then decides he wants to sell it you can't be for for this if a person has a trade for animal sell it the best you could do or get a get a but don't make a business out of it in fact the sh says that if there's a different way of getting rid of it without selling it'll be better which typically is not the case but no doubt about it the sh says to give it to someone else who will sell it at a better price that's already in our sim that's if let's say the a owes you money but he's not very reliable he's not going to pay you but somehow he chanced upon $1,000 of of trade inventory he says you know what I'm giving this to you if you like it or not I cannot pay I will not pay you forget it you want this or nothing can the year take it and sell it, make a thousand dollars. So this is another form of this is called when somebody came to him and the says that if he doesn't take this he's not going to get the money and it's and this is the way the given says the is a form of with the command even to take as payment is also is more than any other true but it comes to losing your money it's not a you're losing the money you lent him that would be again the all say sell it right away don't keep it in the house don't wait don't make a a better food out of it then make more money sell it as it is get it out of the house this is a form of this diamond. A challenging question. If someone is walking in the street, obviously not a Jewish neighbor, but then he sees trade for meat, can he pick it up? Once he picks it up, he'll sell it. So here we say, well, why not? This is damine. But it's not true. This damine is when you're doing a hear and the fish came into your net or you're doing panosa and again the fish or the animal entered your trap. Here it's on the floor. What's that to pick it up? Had you picked it up, you could say it is diamond, but you didn't pick it up yet. And it's also it's a reb. It's not a panosa. So the main head of this diamond is you it's yours already. So make make the best of it and this is your panosa. But here it's not pa. It's not and most say guess what leave it there. But to make it a little moreish, if you don't collect this, you're not going to get payment. That's a heapsid. That's But leaving the tray for meat on the floor is not a heapsid. It's a revoid. It's not a heapsid. [clears throat] Let's make it a little more. And this is probably one of the most common question. Aid God received a gift from a Traay for meat. trade for meat, trade for wine, trade for chocolate, whatever it is. Can he keep the the gift and give it to someone else? So this anime quoting au one of the early that says if the guy brought you a gift you're allowed to take it I you can't take an a why can you take this so says that this isn't his and what does he mean so this is one of the biggest of today regarding gifts the in the says doesn't say these words but that's what it means to say no one in this world gives you anything for free especially not a guy if a guy gives you a gift it's not just I mean why is a guy giving you a gift so the same is gives you a gift it's not a gift you know it's called in English it's an investment ment he wants to curry favor he wants to you should feel beholden to him he's investing by giving you a gift you will be but gifts are not given so if a guy gives you an expensive meat platter he did it because he owes you something oh once he owes you something that's like matzi So receiving a gift quoting the sh is a form of it's an it's a legitimate but if you find a piece of laying on the floor there's no there's no and it's and that the place say better leave it and don't pick it up. So the is between and mat is a welldeserved payment matfa there's no hat I once heard the sh of someone the the the guy had he didn't have the room to keep this meat I don't know exactly why but he wanted to get rid of it says take it get out of my get it out of my my freeze I need the space it's yours so that's also a case of hea but it's not mats it's it just basically giving up a ra and that should not be done. As we said earlier, the can say that you're allowed to sell trade for meat when it became when the was. That's basically our question. Someone calls you up a Gisha colleague. He has a big inventory. He wants to sell it as is. Most of the items are kosher or not is but there are some items that are but he doesn't want the hassle to divide it. It's all or nothing. Take it as it is. The price is right very good price but some of it is isra okay the bulk of it is no problem but there is is involved by buying it. He's buying tus. So this pan you're buying tray for meat what's the so is the also however the quotes and the all go with this that this is a form of this dam you're not buying the trade meat because you want to buy J for meat but you can't get it without buy you would love to get rid of the J for meat but you can't it's as so these pim the taz feels the is is this I'm being compelled to buy it I don't want to buy it but I have no choice so the fact that I'm buying it as is is a form of and don't forget as as ava when you go fishing You know you're going to catch tray for fish. It's inevitable and yet it's mut is even though you know it's there but once it's this there's no is so these pkim and that's what the the tazes caragu the medina that's the minute if you get a good deal but it's taken as it take it or leave it this would be a case of that would be mut. Now, of course, you have to be honest with yourself. If 90 if a big percentage is a tray for meat and you wouldn't buy the kosher item just for itself that's taken for got to be honest. But in indeed if it's the is the the bulk of it is or not is you'll take the whole package and sell the trade for meat for the best that you could make of it. Another question that's as I mentioned earlier out of town when a person wants to service his customers. So we said you're allowed to sell any again I know some but the place were not question is can he sell real tarfus he'll have a section with big kois non kosher section only but he can't just sell their he has to sell meat at a competitive price for a guy why should a guy buy meat kosher meat it's I don't know double the price but it's a lot it's a lot more than trade and his it's a form of if I don't if I don't service my my clientele they won't come and the city the population is too small to for so he feels he wants to take on the head of this I can't do business unless I sell tas now the embassies it doesn't sound right because there's an unavoidable problem and that's called you're out of town and you're saying people uh will buy right do you know every single person is a guide you have to ask for is how do you know how do you know for sure there's no I doesn't care he doesn't care but I care so really to say with certainty to know you have to have unless you have you know the every single guy but let's to beside that the is and His is the is to sell food that's but he can't survive otherwise it's so not only to sell is but to sell is and he calls it an because of the it's one business it's one purchase one one store I should say and the [clears throat] he looks at it like the entire inventory is one however ever and see takes strong exception. He says it's not true. You're not buying all from one one distributor. You're buying the the milk from one distributor. You're buying the meat from a trade distributor. What's your dam? And he says an interesting analogy. Let's say someone knows that he's fishing but a certain area is only trade for fish. So you can't trap when you're doing something trade for trade. So how could you buy the tray for meat individually? If you get a big close out and is it take it or leave it that's but to service a gisha you can have to buy trade for meat from a gisha distributor but that is no also take strong exception although typically did follow but his is there's no to the is part of my pa but not to do is serish strongly rejects this and the and many other after the all said this is not a proper again buying a complete inventory including is but having a service for trade for meat you have to buy individually that's the is of that's the is of an extremely ly common shila especially during the goes but even now is giving a gift to a a co-orker a worker a cleaning lady giving a corporate gift you have a big business you have a lot of you have to realize there's there is a financial benefit in giving taras if you're going to give a kosher product the price indicates that you know you're not getting that much for your money but if you could give a a tray for a gift I don't know the exact percentage how much the markup is which has to be because you have to but it's much cheaper to give tapes. So the question is about gifting or regifting a tra item. So the is that buying the traa item is already a problem because you're buying you're being but more than that the fact that you're saving you have obligation to give your workers a gift that's we said in a gift is almost like a you have to give it right so what are you doing number one you're buying tra and number two you're saving money because it's a real McCoy And in the end of quotes and he says if you have to give a gift and you buy a to give that gift that is number one you're buying and number two you're saving on your cutting in half you're giving a piece of meat and that would be a is of the spells it out cotton gimmel this type of mat would be now [clears throat] the next question is trickier let's say a gives you a tray for gift can you take it so we would say wait a minute we said you can't pick up a tray for me from the floor right so why can I take a gift but then again this is We said when someone gives you a gift, he's about to you. He owes you. So he's paying up his so maybe will use that in this in this context but cooler. Why is the guy giving you a gift cuz he owes you something. So if he if he gives it to you, he owes it to you. If you don't take this, you have nothing. So this is Mati and who says besides mega quoting the he says you can't pick up something from hea or mat or a a aa but if the guy gives you a matana a doat you're allowed to take it and sell it or regift it because that would be a matsumi he owes it to you. So this is a very welcome type of aa taking a maton of tarus in any form whether it's meat chocolate we'll talk about wine soon wine's a little more complicated that would be the of mat the next question is can I regift it I mean I can't eat it right what am I going to do with it can I give it to someone that I owe so this is a problem because if I have to give a gift I owe the person a money and my money a token appreciation. So I'm using this gift to pay my why is that it's a answer is it is but don't forget since I had to take the gift because so once I get it why I'm just put in the garbage once you're allowed to take it out you're allowed to use it. So the answer is yes. You're allowed to take the gift and we gift it to someone else that you owe. This is all the it's the Mishna and it's the as we said in fact the say if you a person gets trade for [clears throat] meat he's allowed to sell it. I don't know. So why is his father for meat? I don't know. But it's also so if you get a gift that you can't eat, of course you're allowed to give it to a guy and regift it and therefore you got rid of it [clears throat] spells out a is a form of and it would be [clears throat] the next question is wine. You got a expensive bottle of wine. Again, wine could be a nice $100. You can't drink it. Can you gift it to someone else? So, this is part of a different share. I want to tell you, we hope to talk about it because it's very common today. The [clears throat] but wine is much worse than regular tas and wine traine could be but there's another factor called. Now, let's be clear. If someone has wine that the is even if it's kosher wine it's you can't take it we gift it nothing it's isano is has no but today and actually times of the people didn't do this nonsense and it wasn't it wasn't suspect to being a desire so that's why the p said the following if today in tim you have wine that was poura can't take it even if you lose a lot of money it's but let's say what's called Sam which means the guy bought it in the store they manufactured it and the truth is today's automated world there's no people touching the wine even but the mis it doesn't seem there's a real concern of yay today in our wine if you saw he poured it is one thing but stam but then again kazal made a very strong on yen for two reasons. Number one, yen is typically used and number two yen creates a certain bond a certain relationship which for us is rel relationship with the go is a terrible thing. So that's why begins why first of all maybe and number two we don't want to come to marry when you're drinking with go or wine that cause a relationship therefore which means a bottle of go bottle of wine is it's not we didn't see the great pouring but [clears throat] on this comments that is not but not it's a regular is of but not Now does say [clears throat] don't buy it and basically as the say is not so excited to be on this unless now this is extremely I can't tell you how much in a regular on a regular business setting goyam give not only the holiday season but even the rest of the year they give a bottle of wine so as no option take the go wine and put in the garbage can't have can't give it to his dog even because Hano can't give it to the clean. So even if you don't have any re any to someone else giving is and the wine would be for for an Ashkanazi it's not so exciting and the if it's not a big heid get rid of it but I can't I tell you what to do again did the p a closed bottle nothing no sh about isam and therefore Should would be mut to gift to be gifted to someone else question someone bought he bought an interesting story he bought a product after pesak zip in the mail perfect but they found out that the flower that the company made their whatever item with was owned by aid who didn't sell so with all the and all the mil this the real deal. Someone bought this and he wants to he can't use it. It's so whether it's or is more common. He bought it. What do he do with it? Can he go back? Today we have a world of returns. You could return and get back your full money within 30 days and it's a pretty liberal return policy. Can he get back his money for it? So he's redeeming this item getting money. It's but but that's right. But since he's not getting back money that he got from the from the from the he's reversing the that should be I told you earlier a football made from the of you can't deal with that. You can't have raise to make the football but it's not an isah and that would be mut another question of a very serious question people have this from different in different situations he just got a shipment of vegetables and it's supposed to be clean and it's heavily infested you can't you can't eat it straight so what do you do with it a big shipment of fruits whatever it is what do you do with it so past this this and this questions can sell to a guy. He says, "How can you sell it to a guy and in strongly accepts the however there is a and others and says I don't understand you when you sell vegetables infested with bugs, you're not selling the bugs. You're not making extra penny because there's bugs. In fact, it's just a problem. You're selling vegetables and vegetables are you're not being the she says that the hill you're not selling the bugs it's not like you're selling a piece of meat that the bugs are in the way and this although it's because the still hold it you know why I'll tell you it's very partial why you're now to sell with so what are you doing you're selling a whole big shipment of vegetables which you could eat any moment and forget yourself and eat after all it's supposed to be kosher. So why is but then again says it's not and the and other all say the min is to be on the if you get an inventory of vegetables or any food that are infested could even be cookies anything that has bugs in it you're allowed to sell to a guy you're not doing today they sell meat dry meat so someone had a He wants to put sell dry meat with a vending machine. He won't sell it. He'll put a vending machine. But then again, it's still it's but it's still so that's not that's not much of a electrical says it's true story. Someone asked me he needed a job desperately. He found a job driving for Uber, but his department was Uber Eats, which means he's he's um delivering food. Obviously, it's all trade for food. Is that including the is of so the embassy the same shilus could be a waiter in a restaurant, a salesman? There many jobs a person could invest and not get near the food. He could be serving the food, but it's not his. So, this is part of a different sug. But the and the two say if it's if you're benefiting from that's period even though there's no however there is a actually five consecutive testif is a big obviously but his main point is there are two factors involved in is number one don't sell. You could be sitting in an office on a fancy recliner not getting near the but it's your business. That's that's not the limitation of the is you're selling. Awesome. Number two is the other side of the spectrum. He's a waiter in a restaurant. It does not own anything but he takes off the cleans up the table. He has the trade food in his hand. If he's a person so proves rather accepted this that either the two are enough to ask one it's your business number two you might come to eat it but if let's say you have none of the above there's no isa now what's none of the above someone is he's manning the phone he's a sales representative to a traffic business he's not near the food it's not his food. He's just working in that troop that I mentioned has a sh goes back in in before the war in Duban where there's a wagon driver that was transporting tapas is that it's hold because he's not he's not so bad he's going to gan the meat it's not his meat why you touching it he's going to it goes if there's no if it's not his it's not his benefit and it's not of should not be a problem. So this is basically the to apply it a a Uber driver it's certainly not logical. He's going to steal the meat, touch the meat, temper the meat, he'll lose his job. So probably that should not be a problem. A waiter is more of a problem. A question someone asked me he had he has to make a party for go. So he decided it's all There's no yeden. He bought trade for meat. He did two. Number one, we don't make parties for go. That's a whole but not for now. But number two, the problem is because he brought the trade for meat to cut the cost of of of the kosher meat. That is a real McCoy which is not for now but I would be remiss in not mentioning is let's say a person has a big business and he has gishu workers and he has to give them lunch. Can he buys tray for meat to give them lunch? So has this buying trade for meat to feed your workers is the however says says people are what are they saying? So he says that this is not an Indian of this is basically to to be to be and the hold it's to buy to feed your work. Now this is a big suga but I wanted to mention it and even bigger suga is which they get to hundreds of Eden and probably millions of dollars a year and that is someone has a healthc care um facility whether it's a nursing home or a um rehabilitation center around the world making shapos from these type of businesses a healthcare um facilities in any form [clears throat] and he went through the the each one individually and the entire clientele tell are all [clears throat] that's I mean how you know that for sure I don't know I don't know if it's even shy but the he says he knows so now he has a has 300 residents in his in his facility does he have to make them kosher food can he ser pay for meat you're talking about 365 days a year he's have to buy kosher for one reason but then again what's the he's buying meat to make pan. So this is a sug for itself which is not for now but I I want you to know that I didn't forget that and I know two shas I know a year zun he bought a company I'm not say the name it was a trade for company it was bankrupting but the deal was unbelievable the profit was was was unbelievable and he bought it and he's there's no on it but he doesn't sell anything that's he follows he could sell but it's a very successful ful business but [clears throat] there's no whatsoever it's only is and last but not least the has an interesting shila where someone was in the army he lived through world war I world war II and he got his ration of food but it's can he sell the food to get other food or swap with a gisha um soldier the food he has more food so of course if it's nephesh do what you have to But let's say it's not. So says they owe you something. They have to feed you. They gave you that's like maybe more than that. It's like and to sell it. And he says he found in the who's also in this situation because the point is if it's not it's talk to you all. Oh. Say you want say Yeah. No, no, no. You say I'm [clears throat] Amen. Just a reminder, tomorrow night is the dinner for a moment. If you want to now, there is a credit card machine on the beimma. back in business. Even the even if there's no even there's of benefiting, selling or gifting an item that's the is by etc. There's no is only is by it's to sell fat of a but that there's no is whatsoever. the hind part of the animal is sold to a guy because it's only is the a horse and a camel a pet or any animal that's not even though it's straight there's no is allowed to sell horses camels or pets because there's no of by animals that are not for selling a silkworm or worms or we said or or a rabbit animals these all are not animals animal that are eaten and it's to have and from the byproduct dog food is of means it came your way he didn't go out looking for it and there's also a loss and the is you went fishing you're allowed to swap the tra fish with a kash fish a lot to sell the animal because that's considered we also mentioned that buying something in in as as a closeout out. Take it or leave it. The whole thing that's considered nine or is also formed in this domain. A supermarket could buy a big inventory if it's sold as is. But he can't sell tra meat or tra items because that is a special part of the store and that although the was but most can strongly rejected that a person received a gift from someone that owes him a he's allowed to regift it or sell it. to buy is to give a gift is that's the real wine is the fact that it might be might if you have that you bought by mistake you could return it for a refund that's considered a raising isser but even for leather even for make it a football because that's a special kakon Infested vegetables the meaning is to sell to a guy when there's only of course a vending machine is a problem of a driver or any worker that's not doesn't own the food and or no isa of eating is m to work in in such a business to be a a salesperson of course working with the food itself a cook or waiter should be assa as we mentioned that basically in making a party for goyam trade for meat should not be bought That would be the is of tasers besides the is of of partying and a different share we we can leave it for a different share feeding workers and a healthcare facility if that's a problem of uh oh you know this about the oh by spotted.