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Saying Brochos עובר לעשייתן - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

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I heard an interesting sh a while ago. Someone was trying to massage his children that he once they should wash and make a mighty right away. And just to emphasize, he went into the kitchen and he washed first and he made a loud instead of making he made and now he didn't know what to do. He washed his hands. He made a didn't make should he eat the bread? Should he not eat the bread? Whatever it is. The question simply is is there ever a time that it's too late to make a because he made so but then again if he's make it make it afterwards how do you go from there? And the truth is we had someone was so excited about he picked it up and then he didn't make a he had he didn't have a mind not to be he didn't have to pit them back was he picked it up and make could he still make a it's an ongoing mitzvah but the is the is the maybe it's too late or even and over the years I put together as we'll see from literally from Sim all the way to the end of and with as well various shas of when a can no longer be said because of the of and again it's to see how so many different sug is become alive in this simple question. So you're probably wondering what's the big deal? He washed him. He did the mitzvah. Okay. So if he didn't make we know the says in a few places. So let him just go on and make you know what is he losing. Now that's a serious mistake. is if someone can't make a suffic and when you could make a and you're not you you don't you're too lazy to clarify if I still could make it that's a terrible and I'll tell you something in there's a beautiful mar in the chim the the taz quotes it the story was someone wanted to make an early so can't make an early pes because you can't and but what's wrong with making early so that he's going to run into a problem with with because that night let's say he make let's say this is right so Friday afternoon he'll make early he's have to sit in the because whether it's which it is or he made it into but we pass you have to sit in the question you can't make a because if you're making a kesh the so then it can't be make eyes up so don't make his is a big to do commits without a now what does he mean to say he means in this case the problem is because you're making so bad who you make early so we see how v goes you can't just de push off a bra if you're in a mat if the says you have a suff like we find so many places countless times fine but to go and say well I didn't make a I know what to do I'm holding my I didn't make so forget about Don't forget about it without a mitzvah is an so we have to clarify once and for all this big so the in we have one category of that there's no problem of and that's what's called we wake up in the morning okay unless I'm talking about the average person doesn't get up at the crack of dawn by time he gets up and time he makes the The chicken was chicken's holding my already you know it's so much later at 8:00 9:00 now. So the terret is that this big that like is not it's a that he gave us and he gave us shoes. So it doesn't have to be take if after you have that before after so is definitely in a category for itself. There's no den of but then we have the famous you must make the and says means before we'll soon see does not mean before literally it means right before you I'll soon explain what that means Why do you have to have a he can make it afterwards is a very practical a person does a mitzvah and then did I do it they do it right he doesn't he he he's so much autopilot he did the mitzvah without any so the instituted a like get ready hopefully that's going to be an so he doesn't do the mitzvah autopilot he makes a first The problem is that the brah becomes part of the autopilot you know you hit you know but the is something very practical plus probably this is also in the m that when you buy something you should say when you something you're about to do, it gives more kaduca. So if you want to do a mitzvah with kaduca, it's a good idea to make a state. Now obviously that's wonderful, but you'll notice it's even more than that because the of all are always why because first you do first you make the bra and then subsequently then you do the mitzvah. Now this is important to mention. I saw a golden golden with and he says you know it's interesting we say before the mitzvah is done is only benching and that's after you eat because the main of is when you feel full so rightfully so the the is benching. But the brah on mitzvah is to is an for the mitzvah. It gives you the right focus. It wakes you up. Okay, now you're about to do the mitzvah of or whatever it is. So you can't wake up. You have to do the mitzvah. So therefore, it's like a wakeup call. Let's get ready to do a mitzvah. So the is very similar to the in it's interesting in the ch famous he was not very excited about saying he held that wasn't for us and he says you have a is the greatest for a mitzvah so he didn't like but in that same chuva he writes but a mitzvah has no even I agree say something they didn't like. So the point is for a mitzvah is important and that's one of the benefits of oh now you understand doesn't have that feature so you could say it afterwards but absolutely has to be before it's too late. So that's why this is the concept of it's in a number of places not besides as I told you and this is basically the now the question is let's say a person didn't I had the sphere of time interesting so which is you know so he's looking which sphere is it and he oh so you know it's like the it's like the cell phone mentality oh daddy and he started saying and he said the whole sphere cuz he you he know which to the right one then where am I going I didn't make a bra yet yet so he counted three without a again it's like you know you press the button no that's what it is so the question is maybe it's too late or maybe why is it too late you see works so this is interesting the to see the ra if you learn the especially but the in has the In everything in there the Rambam says if you did without a you don't make a afterwards or you did and many people they wait online to to make by and they're so excited they just quickly when they get the dirt oh and he throws the dirt on the on the on the blood you missed the bra. So the Rama says it's too late or any other mitzvah that you did this he gives another or you and you realize you didn't make a too bad it's too late the next says that you make well it's based on a that when makes the after he and this is based on says except for why so explains she explains it very posit because before the he's still a so how could he say it's not true right now he could eat his last cheeseburger sandwich he's still a so you can't make Now, so he's a so before so made this leeway and we'll soon see the is the whole is only the whole except for benching. So Kazal said it has to be but a mitzvah you can't make before. So said you could do it afterwards as well. So here we see built in the system it is unless there's no but it's more than that. says makes the okay we'll soon use that in a very big way in that it after he makes after he and again explains so this is around that it's again a later who quotes the and he says I see the but I can't deal with it because I have that is not so his first is we find that he says right where sometimes that the the we make the we say let's say before and we say afterwards so here you see that mitzvah it could after you do the mitzvah. Now if you dab in of course you do everything right many people dab in light so they take before wonderful but if it's such a big so why is there different and the third he brings the says that it it's logical you should make the after because as you you should know a sometimes even though he does a good job but is He's the the important parts to be and he finds a so he wanted make the so for the for the we see here that you know it's and this what he wants to say and I should mention in two places also one of the later actually also pasin like this are like however the didn't forget any of these and it's a what the first is not a mitzvah on the mitzvah of the biggest is we don't make a we say we don't say a big maybe from a big part of the does that they say before And they say andish afterwards. Many people make all the shabas. They say therishma is not is not. So what do you see? We call it's not avah. So maybe that's why we could be so and we could say yeah you could say it afterwards. Had it been a mitzvah like like like love so too late. But what's derive from derive from G is because in the same theor says that G is an exception. So prophet held if there's an exception then what's wrong with the but but but but this is like says they were in the mitzvah of and they said is different and the is also a plea because that's the very nice but the and the make before because the mice he's doing the mita doesn't make it difficult happens later so here we have hold it. We have the shittas of the both the and the argue how do we pin and it's again beginning of all the way to so the emmes the the rakins like the ora and the ais however the sh take strong exception the shak is a very a very strong strong approach and he says that You can't pass him like this. He has some cashes and then he one of the things he says by G is different. And then the sh says that even if you tell me it's a suffic maybe say it's a suffic. So therefore the sha with grace of plates says even though some argue but the rias are not convincing and more importantly theor is like the raam and therefore the says methodically we pass in the in you can understand why the said this so it's a it's a once a day you thank that there's a it's not Am I it's the brain that's on if the mitzvah is already done now you wake up. So how is it poss the the held that is a form of that I have the mitzvah I thank you. Oh, once it's then you have more time. But the is it's it's a on the mitzvah and has to proceed the the mitzvah with the notable exception of so this is basically they told you that the even though it's not 100% but the shock says it's enough to make it a suffic and we do not make a if it's beyond. Now let's go in order of I hope they organize it properly. So every professor does >> I understand but the but the ra that this is a different right a different nature we'll soon see although it's but it has to be before you eat because you have to the of meal okay we'll get to that soon I'll explain a little better so I want to start with a very tr troubling question because if you never learned the suga you'll hear for the first time you'll you'll find it intimidating we wake Wake up in the morning. Let's refresh our memory. We wake up in the morning and typically we don't have a gnaki. So person puts on a situs if he wants and makes a later you know that's a different hug. But one thing is clear whenever we wash our hands ready to go to shul okay as you wake in morning you can wash then you go to the restroom come out you wash your hands again and then you go to when should you make the first of the day. So in look at the it sounds to be a bonafide why is there no insistence make the bra right then and there some people get into the car they go to shul some people do other things and they make the brah when they get around late in but why isn't there to make it right away ah you should make it before you wash soon can't do because you're but now that your hands are clean and this is the before the ding why you waiting to go to make the right now you want to say you want to say a lot of kavana I like in I'm I'm in my corner I have a I have a conducive place fine but this is why are you pushing it off people talk in between the truth so even though you're supposed to make it right away But you could have it until the next need arises. But this is definitely a different itself. This is a different and the you look at the of this and this seems to be the meaning of you finish washing your hands. Don't talk. Don't go to shul. Don't do anything. Don't put on your fillin even because you're making the braha putting on your fillin and then you go back to you know it's like someone that makes the bra to in his house and he shakes in the why are you doing that? You wash your hands at home. You make the diamond and that's the meaning of and we'll soon see many. But then again many people do this devotedly. They make the where does this come from? So this is a that you know the reasons for the we can understand why thisa came about the main reason one of the main reasons the rush is that especially after night's sleep and you can't with unclean hands so you wash and you're ready for ding. So the the rush is learning that the infil and mitzvah is a prelude to dvening. So when does it belong? Right before dvening. You're still at home. You have to drive to you have to you have to talk to take your kids at whatever you have to talk to someone. You ready for ding? Oh not yet. No. Then again there's also one of the main reasons the reason of the where the says that it's a new day of like the and the beautiful idea what's the nature of ah once we have once we label then we have some breathing room then it's no longer the emergency so we could say the two main reason that They would give an allowance to make the later and indeed the one of the strongest proponents of this meaning is the meaning in the he says yeah that some make the right away that's not you make you want to make right away you're playing around Mashkin that's ga you're smarter than the so not only allowed to do it but he seems to emphasize that's the way to do it and the ram writes a very unusual I forget the it was known to be the the the minig he he he very much cherished and protected him is a big thing and here he says the aim of you look a little bit deeper in this the in the which comes from his his first now this is you know crossing party lines in a big way was the minashk and he writes he protect the minashkin and he quotes the the the the reason he quotes the margar and he himself by the way don't tell anybody I do like I think the is if you if you don't take don't be when is the best time if you wash your hands and you make you can't go wrong there's no problem with that you want to say I want to wash later and rely that it's a and maybe it's a fine so you you mic but want to do without a suffic it's right Hey, so this is again very much why we could we could say that we're not going to change your meaning. But you should just know that the meaning of Ben and many bash especially those that follow say it right away. You know some people say I like to put my talent film then I'll start with that's fine. But if you want to do like the real faithful do it like you do lul you make a and you do the do you make the right after you wash you do you make the bra right away. Now this there are those that have a different issue which mention for those that in the morning the thousands of they get up early. So they have another reason why they can be make and make the before that is I mean you have to make right away because you want to learn because the emmesis it comes out typically that people learn for a few hours so they have a coffee and you know they have to go out to the restroom again before doning. So then there's an a second a third actually washing at home coming to learning and then the the pre-in or if you go to the mikvah but there's a new that that's so for that there's a to wait because your at home was not the you weren't the the rushes you saw that it's it's a prelude so that might be a factor but if you learn the properly it It's it definitely we can understand why the and favor the meaning because this would be typically a regular mitzvah. Now another good example is on the talis cotton. So again for those that are married and you make a talis there's no talisa but for those that don't make do make a talis whatever the reason is here's a simple question you wake up in the morning so for those that sleep with titis not but for those that don't so you you wash you don't want to walk damas without situs so says put on the titis walk to the bathroom whatever get ready when you have all ready to go make the onus question If like the and that's the way we so why is this different? How you doing this? You should ah you can't make a stop. Don't go make a you can't make a wrong terret is you look at the raam that I told you earlier in the next the says there are few exceptions to the rule of and that is a mitzvah that's ongoing the let's say you put on your tit without a bra. So at 9:00 you put it on at 6:00 in the morning. Okay, let's let's assume Mr. You don't make a brah and you remember oh 6:30 make a bra. So why do you have to make the that retroactively on of 6:00? Let the be now on 6:30 and on. So a mitzvah that's continuous so too is the mitzvah so too is the the the concept of so from 6 to 630 had no let it be from now on and the ra gives examples all of them are ongoing mitzvah so then even if it's not on the past it's definitely on the future now does recommend this that one should before makes the should says is not is not it's just that to connect yourself with the says it's not if you didn't do it but no doubt about it that this is why there is a concept of of some mitzvah that the mitzvah is ongoing we'll soon use this muza maka but pit the primary example would be Now this is also that with again I'm sorry the first he says that the ongoing mitzvah are definitely different. So here we have another another factor I should mention to make a bra when you put it on is also a it's like in a certain extent because you can't make a bra when you when you're not clean whatever whatever the point is we have this this says and this is and this is a mitzvah that that ongoing you can make the now throws in a very interesting word and he says when you make the at 6:30 on the tites. Somehow the learns that the since it was valid at 6:30, it goes back. So therefore, you have a and I'm not sure how this works, but I'll tell you something. Now we understood always bothered me because this that when you make the at 6:30 in the morning, so Mr. right away points out says it's not really says it's not really but it's a token. So it's always bother me. Why don't you do an go a little further take off the titis and put on again and make a bra and take it off and before you put it on make a bra. So you make a real at 6:30 that if you want to have the lush it only works if it's continuous if you pick it up and take it off. So from 6 6:30 was without a bra. If you go mafa I could understand that don't take it off let the mitzv be one he and the at 6:30 goes back to 6:00 as well and I think that's now the next question I wanted to mention also is now people typically get married should know but sometime I see it's not an ordering something wrong here themes as the points out it doesn't say the O means right before means before to make a right before the mitzvah is perfect to make a when there's still a gap from the braha till the mitzvah is too soon. See it can't be too late and it can't be too soon. What do I mean? So here the mish says this and and the earlier po say this he says you have people have a they put that talis on their shoulder and they start checking it I hope some people they think it's like some type of mig you have to talk to someone else when you tal on the shoulders like you know it's a very comfortable recess and that is mitz it's ready to go and you're talking but anyhow he has it on his shoulder then he makes the braha and he picks it up and starts shaking it straightening it out It's too it's too soon. It's not. So when then says brings also in he quotes the piskim that you should take the sites palace shake it out get it make it straight then put it behind you not on your gof hold it in the air not on your gof make the braha and then it's put it over your head. Why? Because if you shaking out and getting it ready, that's once you put it on already. So even though you didn't make but we know that that's not so once you touch the once it's on the although it's not the you so you you you it's too late. So the best way to do it is you hold it straight make the and put it on and then that's what again that's says on the page says that as well. Now I know there is a mic and I noticed this and I I looked into a little bit I think particular that they put it on but they don't make that before the now I I didn't see this in Mr. But in the pisu he collects a number of m that's the minig of some. So if you have that meaning but if a ball what's the right thing as we saw from the hold it over your head over a little away from the g make the and then you make theif is basically the same thing that has to be now but too soon is and it's unfortunate someone comes in late and he's all rushing to catch up I don't know what he's trying to catch boress or laning I don't know but it's he's a mad So he's fumbling taking the pill and and making the and putting on his hand and no good no good slow the has to be too soon is so you put your hand you put the filling on your hand in the right place but don't make the don't don't tighten it the mitzvah is that's enough that but when you make a and then start unrolling the the and putting on your hand that's and that's too That's also that has to be and not too soon. Too soon is no there's no good as well. Now the we see the let's see a person put on and got to make a and he comes to you and he says what should I do it's on my hand. So here we have the Rambam and that's another exception maybe not exception it's an ongoing mitzvah you can make the later because it's not later it's later for the past but it's for the future and says it's hard to know but he was traveling for whatever reason he could on couldn't put on as he was traveling but it was too early in the morning to put on fill with a bra so he puts it on in his house without a when it comes of then he's makes the oh so I where's the where's the it's too late he's doing it on the but on the the fact that it's on his hand from now on next question is like I told you that basically the cloud is that it's never you put on your shoes make. So the seems to imply that the should be together with but that's not the we see people make and the explain it's as long as you have once a day then that would be valid no matter when it's said it's not on me personally it's on the creation. The next question which is a big but at least take the times for us is seems to be a steward to the whole when do we make the after we wash everybody agrees with the so says that with a bay of course is there And they are all like why are you washing hands of bread? Because you're not clean. So you can't make the maybe maybe you can maybe maybe going from Shabas to your hands are clean. Good but maybe not. So made a plug any type of is like they're closely related. Forget they say is is a small but whatever the case is you make the after the and said to make the after the so cross the board is treated like the is afterwards it's almost again like the says that is said after you wash and that's the shiny Now some are not happy with that alone. And some add says this that even after you washed the mitzvah was not because part of the you have to have a you have to dry your hands because you have on your hand and it's so that before the is like in the middle of the of the mitzvah. So you you didn't before the but you didn't make the so the is good enough that's we'll soon see another concept like that now here the problem is up and if someone for some reason and this sometimes happens people wash and they're looking around and they dry their hands oh too bad once you dried your hands it's too However, the he says that's only a secondary reason. The reason is said after so says you don't just make right away when your hands are wet. But if someone for whatever reason dried his hands or they got around to it and now it's post after he can still make a bra. That's the essence of the it's a different type of mitzvah. Now let's go back to our original question. Someone made a absent mindedly. He washed his hands and very loudly made a what does he do? He was very embarrassed. He's a grandfather and no one knew what to do and he didn't know what to do. But what do you do? You know, you can't text your on on Shabas. But it was definitely >> Oh. Oh, very good. Yeah. So the mighty is definitely now the question is so here we have an interesting point of says it actually quoting till when can you make the when you're still in the once you go to step two and you're holding by eating eating is post so makes that is said until you after you're holding in the backstage is too late. So listen to this. If you dried your hands and now you and you and for some reason you made a mighty you can't make this dime afterwards but our muding the case made it to the mah and he says our case you're you're stickle because you're holding with wet hands so you still hold but you made so you could still make the wet hand indicates you're still holding part of the okay so you're jumping the gun but where you holding asked is not a it's a right some people wash many of them are rather they wash make kish and they make why is the kiddish a big long kdish I have sick parents it's a so here we have this case made it to the m with his >> bring the back >> yeah Yeah. Cuz once you eat, once you ate already, you're really now interesting has a sh let's say someone says, you know, I want to do things. Okay. He's a little innovative fellow. So I'm I wasn't a long and I'm a pretty, you know, conscious person. I didn't my hands didn't scratch my back. I'm going to I'm going to to So I have to wash the but my hands are clean. I would make awesome work when you wash. No, he his hands are clean by ding. >> When he wants to dab for the >> Okay, I'm he wants to come with clean hands after make after you wash making before you wash funny. It's just by by default you make it afterwards. But the says it's wrong. It's not wrong. So not that it's advisable, it's okay, acceptable. But that's the and I think light I told you earlier from the that golden the learns that when they to make it afterwards. So why are you being improvised with your own ideas? It's too soon. It's too soon. But again he concludes this isn't a problem. question should not happen but happens someone ate and he didn't make a you know was not sure if he ate some people ask me I'm not sure if I benched so there's something wrong here you know you're not sure if he ate bench so obviously what you know a person's focus on what's important but this person ate and then he make a so the question is can he make a now it's a maybe we said you're allowed to make it afterwards doesn't downright why. So here's a simple point because here we're dealing with a very serious concept of the say so of not just it's a it's to eat's food. So it's like you ate and then you ask him it's too late. But then again, it could be and this is believe it or not. This is two. What should he do? You know what we should do? Even if you finish the make. Why? Because we find that makes so that can I make a before that's the way it has to be but what are you doing? So you didn't make a your problem too late. So here there's a might not might not be the the only criterion but the says it's only don't get carried away. Now even though even though but it's a now the only point that we could perhaps and that says do some good serious and don't do it again. There's a that quotes one of the which it's a the but the says if you make a it goes retroactive what you ate also. So Mr. says understandably listen it's not a perfect I mean it's it's a but if you ask me I I feel terrible is there anything I could do make take some more food make a don't forget even if you're not you have make a in the first place you hold a lot of make a and then hopefully hope for the best that you could be on the right it goes backwards but it's a very but again to try to take away any stigma of a a real serious ism this is the suggestion Now another important me point I wanted to mention beautiful sh someone had two wines and again he was more interested the wine than his obligations and forgot to make the on a better wine he had two wines second wine was a better quality can he make it afterwards wondering what's the oh that's beautiful is not a it's not a it's we always have a leeway and this is the sufface that the end of a has and then he says I'm sorry then and then and says first I'll tell you the says maybe we could rely on the but then again he says but you finish drinking another what's what's happen that you have of of of wine so he says says that was originally when was originally instituted that they were they were finally given there was no so maybe it makes sense whether it made it before drinking after drinking so what what do you kill when you say it but the look on he quotes we make the wea you're drinking a very delicious wine and you got to You have to remember the where does it come in? You're drinking one wine. Oh, you want another one. Oh, you know wine is doesn't do good to anybody. A subtle reminder or maybe not such a subtle reminder. So according to that it's too late. If you take it face value of you have to mention no beta fine it's doesn't make a difference when but if you go with the that it's a reminder don't get carried away to drinking once you finish drinking there's nothing left to talk about at the end of the day it makes a lot of sense that it's a he should not make it after he finished drinking lightning and thunder is unique it's not a it's a but Then again as we know you have to make it of the lightning what's why is that so so here the in says a simple and it's that it's a regular that's true but it's on on a phenomena that you have to see you can't like every day we talk about the the the bish gave the chicken even you don't have to have a chicken but this is because you see it it's like you make you can make a brah on a every day because it's a you have to have a shyness to it. Once the lightning and thunder is gone so nothing it has to cl to something has to stick to something. So works to make it one really you should make the before the lightning and thunder but you're not enough. You don't know when it's going to be butad is good enough. So it's not is anytime USA it's has to have a but typically the on on on has there's still a chicken around but this particular has to be right away and the belt says how long three or 4 seconds I think that's the because the says what is three or four words makes it can say 200 words per minute so you take your calculator saying three or four words is probably a Certainly now someone told me now takes four seconds but Migill I don't know who said that so knows more than me should say what he wants but the said right away the of on is a very problematic because the is and that's why that is makes the first and then lights of all what is our so ones that say the says that when you make the shabas so you can't like shabas so we make a light first and then make the bra afterwards. It's sort of a from a different angle. Okay, fine. Now there are more does add an that you could do it that if you don't have enough from the nearest that's why make the hand move with the hands they don't have enough from the nearest but it's an exceptional case. It's not the norm. And that's why you'll see and again I'm not getting into the whole but that's why you'll see an interesting that some do and some do on Yam Yam many people like Shabas you make the you like Dais and you make the so there's a famous of the rabbitson now people make a mistake the dishes rabbitson was the rebbitson now the's son wrote the abdoma to the disha on it's found in tar day in the beginning and writes about his mother mother was a great sadkas and she was she understood things and he writes that she had one of them is she says why is why don't we that's not we should make the before because even if you light an air so she said it's a and many people go with this make first and then you light the quotes this it's interesting every god wrote is all handling I want to give a whole she about it's not just one part it's a few part but anyhow he says no they can't do it so someone wants to be nasty says see the says women have no and he teases his sister like that look it up sends you to what he writes in you know what he writes he says is why do us men and women why do we make a fil after we wash it's too late the terret is since usually your hands are not clean so you can't make a then so we're not going to differentiate we're going to make a mistake and make it even our hands are dirty plug so is just saying don't make people get confused what is keep a uniform So the reason why many still have the meaning like the to make the after is shab is a is a reasonab happened once someone someone was got very he started checking and then he and he went so this is another member of the club the doesn't mention this but this is similar to to to and fill in the mitzvah is ongoing so down the bedroom that you checked you you don't have a bra but on the next room make a now so you're making and light the hopefully it goes back as well and that's part the the story I began with where someone this is a guy where someone counted he was so excited he knew it right there he said the sphere So this is what's the so I didn't find he says once you count it it's too late so that would be a case you can make a but that's not our meaning so don't make a another true story someone came into the again very fat totally forgot to make a so is another example of the Rambam's exception and that is the mitzvah like is a continuous mitzvah not just the mitzvah and and you it's going on it's a mitzvah I'm doing I'm came to do and that's why it's he can make a from now another point I wanted to mention was someone picked picked up picked and forgot to make either the go to deny he's not having he forgot to put him backwards he did a with it but he feels to make so it's it's too bad but here we see that sort of is an that if you forgot to make you can still make the why because you still have the Now, but wait, we're not finished yet. a yanke. So let's say you so you don't make a until after still okay cuz you make a because that we go around every day with now what they're saying is that even though the mitzvah is suffic when you picked it up but it's sort of like a continuation and if I give an analogy it's like the the on wet hands is enough to extend. So here also it's something that's not a but it's something that's a very big part of our so here's a which you might use even if the mitzvah was completed but there still like that we make a famous in the I'm sorry has this famous if someone without making a and after he finished or during the during the makes a spout if he even though after the first one he was but until he does the seven for the seventh night he wasn't so if before he did even the last one he has one that he can make a light and make a light on it he can make a but again for us it's not so hard to understand it's similar if not better than the because this is part of the maj he already lit all heaven too late. Ah, we all asked the it has to be a half hour burning. So why is that a mitzvah? It's not a mitzvah. It's a he in it's a gil in the amount of oil you need but it's not that the mitzvah goes for half hour. It's a in the but it's not a a extension of the mitzvah. So that's why after the is too late. Moving on to a person then got to make a that's hold you can make a later like we said like the the emphatically says it's a not it's a not to make a I had the more than once I just want to clarify a point the must be like everything else for two for two simple examples people come to the mikvah hopefully not we're go we'll soon talk about a men's mik come let's say ka mik They make and they start peeling off the wrappers and the and the and the glue. It takes them a half hour to do it. Why don't you do it before the k has to be perfectly clean ready for which is also true but from a different angle people that in in a mikvah that a men's mikvah as well. So there's a hopefully you make sure that's whatever whatever the case is you can't make a bra in the mikvah because even if no one there now but if without them you can't make a so you have no choice you have to delay it somewhat so you make a outside of the of the room and run in and run in as as quick as you can and even though it's not ideal because you're not standing by the mikvah but that's really included has to be done if someone picked it up yet. That's the Ramblam. It's too late. Now someone asked me he he when the when the water when the kale was underwater I said what did the mitz pick it out of water was in the I don't know maybe I haven't seen very important to mention you should all make there's some people think that a father makes the he should make it as quick as there some type of let me explain this very simple is if what the is is it that person's mous child he's bringing his so the is that it's the but is sort of a on the mitzvah now what's the if it's a regular that the father is saying he can say it when he's ready. But if it's a mitzvah has to be but here's the problem is doing the primary. So he makes the first that knows what he's doing makes the and the you know by the time you get around to it to make a it's too late it's so therefore when the as soon as the finish his you don't have to finish the whole you know like like you know you have to get your foot in the door you have to start the before the mitzvah is completed. So the the especially it's a beautiful it's a very very emotional think about I'm becoming in in the mitzvah and also in the in what it represents. So why why rush it up and blow it? So just remember when the finishes the you start saying you can say it's not no problem at all whatsoever. Now hold on. I'm keep the next question which I wanted to mention the has anda and he and he says could be after you to you could still make a on the on the he once said it could be is like would include maybe even but he bl and of a bit clear because the mice of the kayazi a question we had this once true story I wasn't there but someone told me to someone they had made a very big uh kuza you know affair and he knocked the muz in and they started singing of course plenty of pictures that's you know he forgot to make a hea can you make a braha then so he have to know how do you look at the mitzvah of muza and under some mitzvah are mitzvah some mitzvah it's over all after all seven it's over how do you look at muza so ben haram says my father held that after the muza is because the mitzvah is over there might be a mitzvah but the mitzvah is over however and that golden tr I mentioned earlier moa says this also says in the chuva that it's not like other things right there's no mitzvah going on here there's a mitzvah the muza is on my doorpost at all times why don't we say that that's like a but the knew what he's talking about and then he's when is something work when the gf is doing something to towards the mitzvah you're sitting in the suka you're wearing sites you're wearing fillin but here your goof's not doing anything the the muz on the door post there's no mit that you're convinced you're doing so although again and they all say you make afterwards at least we understand with the raam with the raam sons right by his father where he's coming from now mak the mitzvah mah all agree that it's too late because everybody agrees that when you have a safe house it's a mitzvah but you can't say it's like muza have a maka like a muza And that I found the in the earlier pisum says and other say this that a mitzvah like it's only when you were before you do it and very often a person has a to have a maka and he and he tries to do it himself and has a go do it and he forgot to make the afterwards Makkah is even less of a of a than muza muza it's your house so in other words there's a in middle of the mitzvah like sits in fillin And then there's something like a connection like those type of things. And then there's the mitzvah nigmar like like Makkah after Makkah is about too late. And last but not least I bring a little bit into Evan and that's kaduc. So what'sant is we all know when do you make a kaduc before you make the kaducian right? That's right. And that's the of the and that's in fact the Rama says if someone forgot to make the or make the and it's too late. However, there is a and the on the page quote the amit can't make until it's done because maybe they'll say no. So keep it we don't make a because maybe if say no. So here the I hope it won't happen but let's say the she goes no way change my mind what do you do then so then you have a problem and they want to say for that reason don't make the until afterwards but then again we saw we didn't make a before ah you never know but if normal situations you do know so that's why if a person but for some reason didn't make a he cannot he cannot make it after and I heard a misha I don't want to say the details but incredible Incredible story. There was kaducian. He had two two in the same same evening. Want to go to both and I guess you could but somehow he left to the second before he made the and the went on and got to make a So what is it? Because the is