Mitzvos That Cause Aveiros - Rabbi Yaakov Zev Smith

oh [Applause] so um 718-851-8651 or email ist at yeshivanet.com you often say when you're young then the saying in life is will you do the right thing you get older you're often faced with the challenge what's the right thing you don't even know what the right thing is you want to do the right thing today's share is basically a group of such questions my soy cafe somebody asked me this question he was walking here in brooklyn on shabbos and a driver pulled up and said he needed directions imagine if this is driving they ask you for directions on shabbos should you help them should you tell them where to go if i'll get lost so i'll drive more is that your business is that your husband we had a shia labaramole that was asked to make a mila and he went to the house to see the baby before and he realized that this is a house of shabbos they don't keep anything and the shop is the shabbos bris they probably will drive the baby to show by car and malachi they might even have uh music by the bris you're talking about a a family of khalil shabbas the bris would be full of khalashabas should he make the mila someone found an aveda he found the lost item he knows maybe perhaps he even knows who the owner is it has a name in it but it's something that the owner should not be owning it's something uh an is a priestess or something of that sort should he return the aveda but you're causing the owner to be reunited with the aveda that's a that's a have to be sure so the ms as you see this is a group of questions i guess let's either the mokka mitzvah in other words i'm doing a mitzvah i'm i'm making the milo but it's causing hello shabbos i'm giving directions to help him out he's but he's going to be driving because of my directions i'm returning in aveda avoiding here i am but he's doing an iss with that item so at first glance we know the right approach is the ends don't justify the means you can't do a mitzvah that brings an aveda or better or worse yet perhaps but in this situation it's worse because it's not you did a mitzvah and he did on aveda you did a mitzvah and he did an available now you have an available and that's the favor you caused him to do the cut so here the question is that maybe that will tell you don't do the mitzvah but the embassy's with naiva is a very challenging concept and i'll just show you how quote unquote a person could have a bargain regarding lyft nava imagine you give someone food to eat and he won't make a bracha so obviously with a brachas and he said but says the min has islamic ways and again islam he has an issue because he eats without ibraheem but you haven't issued their eyes up with naiva because you caused him to do an issue now how could it be he's doing he only has another banner because just like if you give an a to jaina hygienist this is the rise of naiva no the worst a to jaina guinness is causing a hat even if it's the rabbana so here we see according to the person that caused the esca has at their eyes so now we expanded our agenda not only is the naive assad by elizabeth so now we really have to reconsider every silo where do we go so the embassies there are probably close to 30 sources in in mishnais and shaas of lethna eva this mishna is about and all over about lift eva but i think but there are cloud all of them are simple cases the master of the marines all those cases are simple you're giving him an aveira and there's no mitzvah for you there's no wine to another that's a simple lithium our group of questions are a little more complicated because i'm giving him an aveda but i'm doing a mitzvah i'm returning an aveda so maybe that justifies with naiva i'm trying to help him minimize hilo shabbos i'm giving him directions but then again the ends don't justify the means so what came to mind is a very beautiful rabbikhanan and kravitzaar is simon ayan khannan says that bin advocab is unique many binates are dependent on kavanaugh for example there's an east of but the ls is motta there's an issue of sinner but if you hate a russia it's a mitzvah there's an issa of hitting but to hit a child for purposes so i was thinking maybe another issue to that list maybe this naive it depends on kavanaugh if you're doing it for a mitzva maybe it's motto is a one of the examples of the naive foundation base the gemara says if someone lends money to someone else without adam or star with no proof so the mauver is over on the eva because the lava will either forget or deny the whole thing so your avalanche naive causing the liver to deny that he has and agav people say yeah but has more of a problem because he's busy learning he forgets the heif and the embassy is this is even more common by small amounts of money a person borrows his best yeshiva you know give me i need the dial to buy a soda what is the chance you're gonna ever pay repay it so the mauver is over the naiva the question is why is it even the marvel mitsubishi of so what's why the naiva is that araya that there's no this naive mitzvah about or not qudemas is very positive do the mitzvah and do it right lend the money and give a star or an iou so avada it's a mitzvah but you're doing the mitzvah properly so that's not a riot what comes to mind which is a probably a better writer is a big suggestion if we once discussed this based on the immortal rule of course i am at bay the murray says you can't give someone to eat if he won't bread that is if he won't wash because your eyes are left naiva he's eating without washing and this gupascan incidentally even though those dimes only meet the rabon the one that enables the person to eat without bread without washing is i even have their eyes say either comes again radian is in the end of the eighth perique in breakfast and he says of course you can someone can't give someone bread feed if he won't wash but if you're giving sadako if you're doing a mitzvah you gotta give him bread even though he doesn't wash maybe it is a riot what we're looking for that if even though the naiva applies but we're doing a mitsubishi either however if this is not so muscum the base yosef in kuf zamachtes quotes this webbing uh in him and he said there ain't var of near him what are you talking about even though it's a mitzvah there's still a fever so our question is says don't give him dino let's see unless he got he started making a program so i've got to mention this one making a broken if he doesn't make a bracha or eat without washing both are the same so the mekham says don't give empty unless he makes the bracha and ramos says mitzvah you're allowed to give them to eat even they won't make you broke if it's a doctor purposes so now we see giving someone to eat who won't wash or make a bracha is with basic so here we found the beautiful macar but that's not accurate because you look at the tasmagon avraham and mr burum miss bruce and you're quoting taz magnafram even there are more that's makel is only by a suffolk you give someone to eat will you make a break or not you have no idea i mean he doesn't look very uh very hamish but maybe he'll make a broker maybe he won't he's marginally from but some people even in that level are from where make it broken so even our most may kill only so rely on i like the way the la bush explains uh if you do in the mitzvah and it's only a suffic leona that's the color of it nothing's going to happen to you just do it but says the mr brewing if it's a vada i won't make a broker all agree you cannot give him to eat it will make no broker or won't wash his hands so now we see if i care now we see araya that lifting eva does apply even the makkah mitzvah one more raya and that's important pasha lakham ice as well in white cotton a few times tells a story about amsterdam a very uh you know prestigious woman as you know other stories and shots about her she once saw someone hitting his son makka bonoyagado and said you should be put into karim because the evil eyes god like usually put into karen [Applause] there's a mitzvah to hit a child and i should remind you alef the gamora says even if the child is good he's supposed to hit him very strange if he's good so have destined in the gimbal page 360 quotes to grow up that part of seneca is teaching gotta put a child in his place i'm afraid to say to this too loudly but he says either the child is good you have to hit him so here we see there's a mitzvah hit a child and yet the gemara says that you hit the child it's the naiva the heart is right what we're looking for that even though you're doing a mitzvah there's this naiva but then again we could wonder who said the gemara in in my cotton was talking that he's hitting him for chronic purposes maybe the child did something careless and the father's about class and hits him from mild and the embassy is the and conducion of lambeth bases almost will flourish and the key lay the symbiote says it before us that that hitting a child that's with naive is only when the child is doing medium but if it's in a context there's no left naiva so ibaza we have a raya that will commits for this lonely favor however if you look in the ian jakov on this gemura he has a costume tomorrow says make and how about hitting a girl there's an old naiva something of course whoa but why does a person typically hit his son because he's not learning so you hit him so it's more to hit a boy than a girl because girls that didn't learn tyre in those days but we so we see that when you hit a child for learning for pacific clinical purposes there is of naiva and the stay hammered in heilig bays in the standard prince page 2 311 says steema game are like this ian yaku the laker it's from and the embassy says you're looking you're there he's put into here it doesn't say but but purpose is so now we see from this gemara that even though you're doing the mitzvah but if it brings an availa that's left naiva so now we have two ryers from giving feet without abraham and hitting a child with naiva applies but malcolm it's but we see more than this let me ask you a theoretical which is not so theoretical after all let's say that a person a weak moment does the worst if never possible he takes wine and gives it to another that's the gemara that's clear-cut with navy no but all of a sudden an unexpected wind comes and as he's about to drink the wine it blows the wind out of the blows the wine out of the nose's hand and he and it spills on the floor okay so the nozzle was saved ya rashem the one that gave wine to the nazi was the vanda admiral that's pretty easy it doesn't say don't cause don't do enough don't cause malaveramas don't give a myself so even if the very didn't materialize you're over but then he says i have two gemaras also but it's listen to his brilliance the gemara says if you lend money without adam it's left naiva i nothing happened yet maybe i'll pay back it's good in the future as soon as she saw him hitting a child she put him wait wait to see if if the sun responds so yad malachi from here is even if the child didn't end up hitting the father if you give um your either and this base page 294 agrees with this and the hezbollah this is at least an eight to say no hygienist you're putting a person in a situation that he might respond now the amis is some argue on this but the point that i want to bring out is if you're giving someone a miso mitchell that that's the issa so doesn't it make sense that when you even make a mitzvah but you're giving him a myself but before we apply this more specifically i'd like to ask you one question that i think introduces us to the most important you say for today let's say it's a it's a nice summer shabbos afternoon never have an extra neighbor a frying eat and it's mahalo shabbos and this shabbos he's smoking in the backyard and he's bothering you like shabbos you'd love to help him but you don't know what to do and you have a brainstorm you say excuse me sir you should know the smoke i'm very sensitive to smoke it's not good for my lungs would you mind extinguishing your cigarette he says oh i'm sorry i didn't know what bothers you you know he doesn't care about champions but he's a gentleman oh i'm sorry and right in front of your face he extinguishes the cigarette then you have oy what did i do i just made this neighbor i totally it on shabbos to put out a cigarette that's keyboard i it's only throughout bon and we proved that even by the bottom there's left nava is that true doesn't sound right but why not he wasn't gonna put out the cigarette he was gonna puff it until it's over the territories are very positive the isa is enabling here i'm limiting the hat no better yet is giving a mix if people continue to smoke so every puff is another hervara their isa now he has one kiba to abandon it's all over the issa is nisinas mirsho this is a saurus mixo in other words if you give a wine to the naza and the wine spills out i can understand it's awesome because that's a mixture a pure mixture here it's a pure muscle who says this maybe it's my own martial but do you say each state repertoire but listen to a brilliant vegan in your day life and of cutting someone's pes with a razor or whether which was us of course alpi torah and basically the is if if someone cuts someone's beard or peace with a razor the mark if is ivan alive and the one that gets the one that gets to shave is over on alive as well machiavelli if someone takes a razor and cuts off his own pace or beard with a razor he's over making so the sugan in sifa as a shiloh is an isha that cuts off a man's beard of payers is she over our market because she cut out of her own payers so maybe there's no issa market on an issue frankie pve who cares even if there's no issa market but she does it to a man it says naiva so it's this is vegan maybe there's no last naiva because if she doesn't do it he'll do it himself that's what she that's what he says you want to do it if i don't do it myself so this is khashoggi rebecca makes the poster if he does it himself he's over on tui suru makava nikki if she does it so there's no magic only nickif in that case she's reducing the issa not making a mixture so our cigarette is really vegan if your kavanaugh is to reduce the various it's not received as a mixture i'll give you another dogma the ferrous small on the rush involvement of perry casey if cotton gimmel this is cinnamon based on the rush he says of course to give land money with ribs besides the issa ribbus is the naiva let's say you see someone about to do rippers their iso and you quickly got to deal with them you know what i'll give you ribbons at a better price but your ribbus is the rabbonum and you're doing it to minimize the issue there's to give someone to eat bread without they won't wash is with naiva but if you take the bread and say listen rabbit let me feed you make it easy and you put it into his mouth there's no listen to even because if he picks up the bread and eats it he's out even it's the bottom if you feed it into his mouth he didn't touch it there's no real kiev just because hazal said don't differentiate so by putting it into his mouth you're not making an islam you're reducing the issa and the fourth occurred and this is a big suggestion has this very painful question if you have a guest or a worker at a friday workers working house for four hours on a hot summer day and he's excuse me could i have a cup of water and you say no because you're not going to make a broker so what's going to happen he's going to have sinners hadas he's going to hate foreign they don't give me a couple i don't ask for soda he didn't give me water it's the favor so if you're giving him the water to reduce the sinner you're not making a mixture you're minimizing the mixture same you saw it now although we know the clal is will you write i can't do an aveda to help him i can't take bread out of the oven on shabbos to minimize his philosophies but here after the husband is made has a similar asylum and he says here it's not kate because the end of the day he is not causing miksha he's minimizing he's not in this mixture he's not enabling he's decreasing so this rabbi say is the assay that now we could go to lift naive is a very serious issue no doubt about it to cause some of this naive like we said and even if you're kavanagh mitzvah to do a mitzvah you don't know he's doing that he's doing available the one exception is if you end up with less mixture you can honestly minimize the mixture then we have a hetero and let's apply it we'll start with this we'll go organizing mikhaila lakovi simple shiloh you have a irreligious neighbor relative co-worker comes purim and you want to make him and you'll send himself not a good idea because the food that you send them he will eat without a bracha that's so that doesn't justify the naiva also you could do the mitzvah in a different way send him a inspiring book on his level or inspiring cd something that he'll that will be my car of him now i'm not saying you ate something somehow yes i'm old not if it's not food but you can't do a mitzvah that's going to bring in a fair question you you were asked information about a sridhara hijab you sh you assess the situation and you realize this is a real lashing horror to this it's takalashara but you know that when you're going to tell the person that i ask you uh him not a good idea stay away he doesn't watch his mouth and it's going to get back to the other party that you said bad about them so you're doing russian horror lit toy ls perfectly mutter but it's going to come out a regular problem because the inquirer is going to say oh yeah even he told me you're no good says don't give the information you're doing a very nice thing of of love but you're causing inevitably reject now this is mama shall we you say it the ends don't justify the means you're doing a mitzvah trials but you're causing us and that would be like we said a mitzvah doesn't justify lyfne either another halacha which could either mention people davince minister launched my nest which is very nice and all but they dive in by a door or any place that people walk by when they finish the happening that's why mario and his launch my nestor causes people to be over the allah in simon cough base and based on the command of walking in front of someone that happens and as early as the shibali how lack of one of the merchants if you dive in a language my next room and you're diving in a place that people walk by you the launch manager is a lifting eva why push it eyes the midst of diving of course davin and a place that's away from everybody else down in the front on the side i mean sometimes you come to and someone's having a long long min and the hustlers waiting with the the parents and the two candles to go down to the cooper and he dive in the languishment so that's a realist neighbor people are going to walk right by you so there is a mitzvah but the mitzvah could be done otherwise question you find an item that developed that the owner should not be owning now i have to be very clear you know i'm not talking about a canoe that doesn't like uh this so whatever the other that has a strafe i'm talking when you find a book a phone a magazine that's straight for holidays okay or better yet you find a ham sandwich tariffs that says in it you'll see an island he writes his phone number a clear-cut magazine beggar that's prizes not so not that's subjective it's totally awesome should you return to the limb because the mitsubishi veda and keep it is it geneva like or is that left nave because he's going to use it so this sounds like a left nave and we have this question in camp where many more things are awesome you know cigarettes and then and and firecrackers and you find someone else's and should you return it he shouldn't be having it so rabbi yahshua is quoted and they say foreign and he says to lend money to a friar that will use the money for issa is left naive now the truth that's a big hit is because the money that you're landing is nothing sure he's going to use it for islam kohl's game returning that's awesome that's real if naive but the question is so what do you do so throw it out is it easy to say but it's the is so bayasha says try to sell it to a guy that's allowed to have it if it's not a very desired you know and and get them get the money to the buy them now that's very you know tricky i'm going to take a thing i don't even hold on to it i'm going to go straight to the streets to sell to a guy when i tell welcome in the camp when they have this shyla and we had the child of a very sticky shell a bucket that was sliding terribly he had a phone that was terrible and the boys found it so i told him you can't return it throw it away taka but chip in and i'll trip and also i think it's a khashwa mitzvah and we'll give him back the value of the phone if you tell me throughout your phone because you shouldn't have it give a muslim he'll be outraged if you tell him we're giving you back the money you're showing that we're doing this with great obvious as well we want to be make you happy we're going to pay the price so you should be in good hands and taka boxing had a very good hashball you know it's very easy to be a kannada's husband people don't appreciate it but you're still not willing to pay my pay money to get you out of this mess even though you don't realize it so sometimes it's kadai the extra few dollars you you know if you don't want to go sell it to a guy which of course is very difficult i'm not saying you have to you there's no veda but that would certainly satisfy the kaiser mishpa issue in this someone knows of a collector that's going around who is illegitimate again not a suffolk he's a valdega he's a phony he's not an oni he's not collected from my sid he's collecting from his own pocket so the giving him is this naiva you're giving a guy enough money to take his life so they be awesome now if indeed you are certain that la maison that he's taka illegitimate so you shouldn't give him and tell others also it's a geneva let's say you die you know but i don't want to make it fuss i don't advise him let me give him i'll have a mind i'm giving him a toner so tadaka mishpat perrick base aaron and zayn the bianca blight quotes heard from islamic zalman that that's not going to help because the ani quote ani thinks that he's taking your money as sadakam even though it's a claire so he's over on islam and by giving him you're being so he says the only thing is they say listen i know you're a phone if i'll give it to you anyhow but then you're not really saving his dignity but this is an interesting point the gamora conducion that memphis says someone thinks he's doing a navera but he doesn't know the fact that that's also a partial of error so this is a situation you have to be careful taka don't give him say i don't have you know but not to help question a person is speaking for irreligious people he's trying to make care of them telling the wonderful divine torah and then he says oh barkashem they're all wearing yamaka's but how many people of them said probably they didn't have them or some you have a guest afraid a guest who didn't dive in that morning you're talking to somebody so the embassy is beside them the eyes of birka satyara some say there's an isadorabandan of learning without beer satori so you're giving him to do that in quotes there's an issa of learn without a beer so the embassy is it's taka when possible avadhi try to tell them you know let's say they're together but if it doesn't work i saw it in a wonderful safer harimu miksha it's ahmad with verb he makes the question that we made also and he says so if you don't learn with them what are they going to have nothing nobody said no limitation no care if you learn with them they'll have lima torah they'll have kirb and they won't have beer satire but you're not making them so end of the day you're making it better not worse that's not listen to evil then he has another husband and he says that the torah is the toefl to limit him if he can't do the truffle but don't do the ikka makes no sense la master let's you want to give someone a little lift to bench but they don't like making broccolis they're fried they don't make bro don't shake it so you're not going to give them to bench dalai meaning because you won't make abraham so at least do the icker now the truth that's not really so convincing because they're the broker and the mitzvah separate i mean your boss is not you're supposed to make a broke on a mitzvah but it's not mark of the mitzvah but here if you hold there's an isa of learning without a broker because i thought that is then you could be giving him a mixo but then he quotes i'm afraid to say that but a third parent possibly that if a friar person learned that he not so it's not really limitator and you don't need beer satoru okay that's something hot to accept but the truth is what i think the real the real you say to the hector is you're doing it for his taelos you're taking the big picture and if you don't teach him to he'll have nothing this way at least have torah and hopefully we don't hold his mammoth and issa to learn without beer hopefully he's just a mitzvah so then you didn't really make more damage than you did much more good than damage if he's sitting there without a yamaka so mr burataka and simon bays see bay he says it's also to learn without a yamaka so that we could say the same and a konami but if you don't teach him torah so he has nothing and without him he's sitting no matter what so if you can't get him a yamaha at least we could have that your sight maybe you want to be a little more aggressive you could say maybe he's only listening so it's only here and here that is but the truth is if you're talking so maybe it's more than here maybe it's a stickle of a shivas of jamaica and even though he's not makhable but the point is there is a husband of taking the big picture and you're really reducing his problems not increasing them mystery i told you earlier someone was stopped on in on the street uh a nebuchadi needed directions how to get to this destination on shops i guess you don't have a gps but the embassy narrative so the postman is the jewish and the police of jews and the people that are lost are jewish they stop you khabib they talk in perfect hebrew how do you get the so-and-so street so the embassy is the muscle region it's a terrible hashem you help a yid get with this destination by karan shabazz but then again and that's taka why so that's italy says tell him i'm sorry it's shabbos i can't this is terrible i can't help you rabbi yashv is quoted as saying tell him the past exactly with great mimas tell him that then he'll get the hint but the embassies their arm may kill him and i think it's based on our isoit because if you don't help him he'll try to go on his own and get lost and then or he'll stop the next person that he meets also aid so he's just driving and stopping and starting again but the shem is definitely there so the approach would be say i i would love to help you you're my brother you're a yid but i can't help you with hello shabbos but since i know unfortunately you're gonna drive anyhow and i want to minimize your little shabbos so directions are so and so and so this episode is almond is quoted as saying it's in the smear because you're sort of shabbos on the top side the garlic in other words point out that it's painful that you're helping him but you want to help him by giving him directions because that's going to ultimately decrease khaloshabs and this is a beautiful point agave i want to mention because i saw this story years ago i checked it up again recently was not in the big city and he wasn't accustomed to seeing hello shabbos people driving along the streets i told them i can't go right i'm walking and seeing trump drive with cars going back and forth i have to turn back somebody said we're almost there let's go okay let's go quickly just then drive it pulled up i mean he was painting from this now he has to give directions but listen what he said he said i would love to help i have to help you my brother but how could i help you i'm not helping you but help you drive but i have to help you and the driver got out of his car that's what he said he said listen people scream at me day and night my mother screams at me while i drive my brother's eating no one cared about like you did because you said you're my brother if you tell me not to drive i'm going to give you the keys right now so he said i see you have a heist on the show that's what he told him and i must tell you that the keys are much you have to drop it and he dropped it so so rebecca fan told him you go down i'm staying here and he started talking to him how's your mother how's your job and he said before long it became like a spectacle the balkan from kevin came out to watch abel yapiyan talking to hilaini with a park on parked car with keys on the floor and talking about but he said this made her ocean because like says it comes to kill him a voice says ahava is the greatest greatest macarthur claim now again it's when to apply that you have to know but certainly in the case when you have to give direction or any sticky shiloh if you come across sincere that makes the biggest racism i saw the the absorbent time in in khashoggis zayn has a very interesting sha island someone's car alarm started ringing uncontrollably on shabbos afternoon and it's very loud and the thrilling neighbors are getting all nervous listen give us the keys and we're going to close it the lamb because we can't you know we can't uh bear it or else we're going to call the police they're going to open it and close it so to give keys to hillary is with naiva but he applies the vega that i mentioned and he says people so if they're not going to give them the keys they're going to call the police and the police are going to call this and they're going to have a whole uh chain of hilo shabbos cut your losses and it's not left naiva a really interesting shailah but i never saw everything happens the godaily israel because of rampance called for havagona a protest so the airstrike that is printed in the coivus ii was an al of memdalid what kind of tahacha is that you're giving back and when you make afghanistan hundreds of police and press and spectators come to watch the show you're increasing hello shabbos that's a that's a hell of as so again it's printed up by ash of shubha he says it's not it's saving shabbos if we just let this go next week gets worse and worse and worse and worse so it's not out because they're not going to listen but it's it's to save the helico shabbos but then he hears a dovah niffler and he says i left eva so he says kvar however i stayed so i looked it up well this skin is always very big but he says a dove appella the kimura says the mission says beginning of subis basil and he says on wednesday the problem was that the goyish hegemon was mazana they heard about wednesday so then they had to be they had to change the day of the hassan so fragmented what about the left naiva and if they would have kept it the only problem was that the girls were moisture nephesh and that was of course uh moisture that fisher the eden would lose in their lives but without them is serious nephesh they would have kept it wednesday fragrance is nose if naive on the guy doing this here we see if you're doing a mitzvah you're doing your the rats in hashem there's nothing to do with the heckman the hegman finds out that it comes and does it in a veyron that's not your business well if neither means you give someone a cuff to the muscle a girl gets married on wednesday there's no herbs of mirzo it's the guy's valentine that gets to get him into trouble that's not luther eva sorba yashev says i'm making afghanistan the fact that the press comes that's wha okay stuff members says the same you say it as well the afghanis are we're doing the mitzvah what comes out of it that's their own mirsho a question well i always always bother me but now i can't say i have much of a terrorist but i'll tell you what i found the gemaran aircraft that would be wonders what's to what extent is there he gives him a muslim now you know giving some a muslim is not always a very popular thing to do and he starts to get angry when do you ought to stop so once she told till he starts to hit you ada one sheet of holes no don't wait till that till he curses you and the third sheet is in the zifa now the embassy is someone hits you and it hits you so their eyes even if you curse you this is their eyes even the zifa if it's a very extreme sinner so what's shannon you're causing it to do these availas so you're doing the midst of their eyes are very nice of but it's causing here to do a virus so the emma says the bialog and the end of tough quotes says that is no so according to that i can understand but many is hold even so the terrorists that i don't think i can think of is that this is not a din of this is an ongoing aveira an ongoing hashem this is that has bigger the why it justifies nazis i'd love to hear it after this year another case of we see how said sometimes this naiva impacts described how to do it the pra and this was this was always done there was a crew and yamcha shiny gayam took care of the food now in an ideal situation the did the malacha the eden did the lavoia and the mace had his covered akhra and didn't have to wait till after yamcha the problem is in america there were two facts that impacted a concern first of all typically the basic forest is out of state in new jersey a lot of driving is needed and also the fact is that many irreligious religious relatives either they get they call about lavalia get calls and come driving and go to the base of cars and it turns out often in not not such high mr circles that we live in but it comes out that that uh shiny there are many people coming and driving a mess of khalashem and that's certainly hello and it's not a covert amazing but there's another factor and that is today with his refrigeration so there's no circa in the concern of sir amaze doesn't apply was worried that if it's going to come to demolar then you shouldn't make fur on your shining but we're not passing that way because to leave amaze it's going to deteriorate there's a terrible quite amazing but your moisture today that so many cravings end up calling and driving and is also the alternative to keeping a refrigerator there's no quite amaze our mercy is not to make a leviatha in such a case and wait to left the young merchants even if it means waiting three but if we diymdev because of the evil now again i can't say all except for this they're all of eyes i'm saying that was the second day rosh hashanah but just the feeling of it the sensitivity as our moisture says how could you call this covered amaze that causes rampant i don't do it anyhow that's not your business by calling a leviatha that brings out the worst in people so this is something that has to be applied you know of course carefully but the point is that somehow the naiva affects a lot more than we realize the very sensitive question to put it the mice is hitting a child or actually the rambam and their age has the same myths of hitting a child hitting a talmud i mean today they might arrest me just talking about it getting a lot of toy hit children but the truth is me dina gemara there's a mitsubi hit a child and hit a talmud but then again in the gemara and the hitting binoya goddard is the favor but it's lavdafra but god the poise can say this even though the ramos says 22 or 24 is the age that it's also to hit a child but the same with says but if the child is quote a stickler of azaris and he matures quickly and at under mitchell age he hits back same with naiva that exhausts the cost of 22. it's when the child will respond and violate keep it off and all the pies can break them that even under the myth that the child hits back don't hit him more so all the players can play loved after child hits back if the child responds verbally which is a a violation of keeper of the arithmet says even if his matrix connector if he respect if he responds disrespectfully if if the response is a violation of keep it of then the father is being over on the flavor again you mean well he means some shamayim he's hitting the child but the child is hitting back either verbally or physically so it's not working and it's just a violation of naiva and as a listen carriel it's involved he has two points that a cause is loved africa because some means verbally hitting a child is more painful and more and more lasting and more devastating and also he says even with older children people that parents get involved with children's married children's lives that's just the cause with neighbor they get angry they and then and they resent their parents maybe it brings the aura of emo but the point is this is a very sensitive situation that of course needs a share for itself but the point is that the votes to see ethereum and steve talks about a child hitting back but i think it's more striking and see if you would test me quotes don't be overbearing domineering over imposing demanding because they're going to end up causing the children to get angry and you're over on the even now this is not american talk this is the halogen based and the way the green says it's based on caducen lambert bays and the the basis is based on on my cotton daffodil zion about hitting a child so again when yes we're not that you have to use seiko but i just tell you with what all agree i saw this in the stipend it's so pushing someone came to the stipela my son mamas needs muslim i tell him every day and he doesn't listen skype says i don't stand you you're evil of naive every single day you told him once and twice you don't get the hint he's not listening every day i love naiva so you have to have seiko you know we have a hatter we have a mitzvah we have a creep the disciplined children and hit children need be but if it's not working so it's it's just plain hitting and it's naiva so again when yes we're not mad but i could tell you the safe hasidim has i'm certain that american in this respect i also have children ish if you have a boy that's an ish either mature thinks he is obvious you have to watch out with him because by hitting him and disciplining him you're overlapping eva that's the reason and our makotos it's a joint effort all three have to work together the child has to behave parents have to do things correctly now i'm not the i don't have that idea at all of you know just giving in and giving it in but it has to work if it doesn't work see ending up with naiva and nothing of a value so it has to work now of course a very young somebody has my very young child when i i tell him something he he kicks me or bites me that's kind of that's not the favor you know young children no never like what you say that doesn't count when a child is doing something with with quote with with a chromosome and he's already a and he responds negatively verbally or custom words the time to reconsider what to do a person needs a doctor goes to a hospital and the the medical personnel the doctor the nurse they're not religious they're jewish not religious and they're doing things they're not necessary they're taking temperature ten times and you know it's aimed by sakana you feel better should i tell them something so so so some people think well no it's not my business that's their own business they're doing for their own hustle buy a guy that doesn't have shay that's a hetero but by a yid that's the flavor they're doing it for you you have to stop them but then again you can't stop them so this upstream of zalman discusses in sri ashab islamic beings and he basically says that for that reason it's best to have believe it or not if you need a doctor there are two doctors that ferment a friar and both of the same quality take the jewish doctor the from the doctor he has another husband very long district that the friar doctor doing it for the money maybe he doesn't have the the head up the from a doctor is doing it for the mitzvah so he has a mitzvah without any xylem and also he won't do extra but la maison in these cases i think you have to use them you tell them nice to listen i appreciate you so devoted to me but i'd rather you don't do it once told me he had a mailman that brought the mail to his house for a year that was fried and every shabbos he brought the mail to his house so he said told me i told him nicely i would appreciate if you don't bring my to my mail on shabbos even though it involves a lot of extra work on the mailman's but i have to put it someplace else to remember but he said i told him nicely and he never came to get on shabbos you could accomplish a challenging question that's an understatement is a moyle is called to do a mila a shabbos mila and he realizes this is going to be rampant hello shabbos they're going to be pictures there's going to be a driving to and from the mila so agave has to find out by the way because sometimes it's not even a shabbos meal you know the baby was born saturday six o'clock six pm uh this coming show i know it's coming shabbos so they think it's saturday saturday but it's not of course if it's a it's a different if it's not a natural mila it's also but we're talking about when it was really a shabbos meal so the question is the moyel realizes that if he's going to be make the milla it's going to be so what's the option pushing it off to sunday i mean billabos man is is very very important so they'll say i can't do it so they're going to get dr so-and-so who's not religious and maybe it's not even halloween mila but there was not in a few truths insists and this is helicopter and again without it that if you know it's going to be a little shop not just an uncle comes and a picture here but it's going to be an official shabbos don't do the mila it's hello shabbos and the center of attraction is this this this this from a mile it because without the mila there's no party there's nothing and in heilig dale it kuflamid hey he brings out the mushroom but listen to his infamous we mentioned time earlier that held that to push off the even though there's a mix with the berry as soon as possible but if it brings helium to you can't do it so he says koshkin that mila bismana hagam it's he says better push it off and it's not your business what happens now inhale the test raise your some people misuse this hectare and whenever they had a shabbos burst they didn't want to go on chambers they pushed it off till sunday and they blamed on him because you get made maybe hello shabbos he said no no that's just misusing my hat tip that's just because for your benefit i mean if it's going to be a killer shabbos bris to be hello shabbos they don't really describe i mean their emotion does discuss it certainly but it seems that la maison if there's no other choice and they'll get a boil that's not going to do with kadashikudin that's worse so you're basically minimizing the losses what i think is very practical you could do the mila and tell the family listen if for the benefit of the child let's try to keep it a good start make the party saturday night very good i'll be happy with that you know why not you know this way you know people could come and try to avoid that the kilo shabbos the meal itself is the mitsuba although you know usually the me is the suede what causes the big problem a another question of the even there was a lot of geneva's going on in a certain place i don't want to say we and they should a certain person so they wanted to put set up a trap they'll put us someone's wildlife where this person goes and of course today everything's with surveillance cameras and they'll watch me takes the money so it's a it's a great uh way of catching a ghanif but that's mamashla naiva and the embassy is the sigmar kadusha llamadvay the famous story rabba barhuna wanted to test his son to see they'll get angry so he got him a little nervous frank digimara what but if he gets angry listen to eva zak to gemara he was michael on his covet not with the surveillance camera but there was a gonit they wanted to put money in his office and see if he takes it he says that's the favor and the emma says this is mamish a gemara but even if he didn't yet take it you're putting down a maison mixture this is like giving money without addis or like hitting a child in other this is the case a real nissinas is the same and he also says that's with naiva to put down a trap he says but don't fire him that's also wrong you have to do things but find that who's a ghana but you can't fire i you'll say you'll be michael on the money so even if he steals it it's not geneva because yeah but there's still the problem of this like we said earlier so this is why la maison this is an issue that it's a flavor now i did see a fascinating the chuva is that if you're doing it to save money and there's an ongoing neighbor that might be a fushima isu and you're allowed to do it the case in the gemara was he wanted to test his son to see where he's holding and where he is okay so don't do that but if you want to save your money you know i would give a muscle lasagna maybe you can't put alarms in there to stroll or security cameras because you'll catch the gun if it was a yid or on shabbos you have to put a sign don't only game could steal here because if you're still here you're going to sound the alarm with maeve on alarm in other words there's a certain point of either ashland abse i think it's clear that if a person is doing it just he wants to see where they're holding don't do it that's a sin if you're doing it to save ongoing genevis and you're trying to hop again hopefully you'll straighten him out we have a hat at least some say based on that macar last but not least which really maybe one day will be a share for itself but i want to mention at least it's the the point to look into the question i've heard many times you give someone covet a lot of covet why isn't that left nava taiwan's gem called valley you give someone a very delicious meal but you know you're giving them taiwanese so i heard bishop besou salaam this quote attack in the in the there's no listening eva and that sounds like cross-the-board hector which can't be he boy is saying his name is foreign it's about conducion the marquis duchess says to test that someone's going to get angry right it was awesome don't hate the was that he was michael and the kid you go look it up enraged ma'am you gimmel he says what about okay okay so he's my quran is covered but what about the ivan on makkah of of on the issa of cass so he said he knew he wouldn't get picass but if you make someone because that's with is almost 2 000 years uh i'm not saying saraya brewer but the mishna in in other is perigdal mr bays why because he because he might get angry at you pastors that might be out of favor unless you want to say maybe it won't help or the muslim again the muslim everyone you'd customize days the only person gives them a mixer why not why not lay it on thick maybe that's the flavor now what's quality of cilantro so thermos is very positive in the sieves r nun test amid amino synthesis we saw cilantro's golden a medius by him covered was blotted he was bare mini cover to the instagram but to give yen him covered he knew every nuance of giving covet the goddess was what for him was nothing but his mahabharat someone else and that's what what the istanbul said meant you have to now don't worry about yanim's you give him covered the merchant health he'll be okay you know i can't give someone good food because you know yeah your gosh me it's like someone said a candy for you is taiva a candidate given they say that once during that office they were picking up a bitzel petersburg and they were dancing sushamer shaykh or sadiq and someone asked what about the iss of coveting making balgaivam so they said just listen what he's saying to himself and he was saying over and over available i said someone i heard from the adria he walked up the manchester received into lakewood you see with the giveaways and hundreds of broken stood up and the light stood up and upset was saying over and over that's what you saw solante meant you have a mitzvah to give vienna covered you do what you have to do the person that's getting the cover deserves covered he won't be a bad guy but don't worry about him but if did to start thinking i'm afraid maybe maybe it's a suffolk you're not giving a mix if someone you know will do and available you can't make someone ask someone then you know he's going to lie so if they say exceed him that's the thing you're causing him to lie there's no blanket headphone but when something you you have to do trachte your give him what he had what he needs and you could rely that that he will do the right thing and there won't be any affairs i wouldn't talk to you all like to thank rob smith for the wonderful share now boys would like to remind them that this wednesday there's going to be a sifi in the afternoon shield 1 30 on the indian of shidduchim a tremendous guest speaker of my song rabbi schmidler that sounds coming to speak he spoke of millions with over a thousand people envisioned some months he also you join and what hashem this wednesday of helping israel abraham foreign [Music] okay [Music]