Lighting Neiros Shabbos in a Hospital, Hotel etc. - Rav Yakov Zev Smith

like to welcome everyone to today's sh lighting and the hospital Hotel Etc sponsoring 718 851 8651 email istom today people have a question when they're eating in a they're staying at home with the light in there shabas the the sleeping we have a sh hotels there different options we to light and some you have a problem there's a woman a person man or woman in the hospital so bit as we'll see there's a number of shist that are part of tonight today's sugya and that is when a person is not home comfortably when there's different situations how do we respond what's the proper place to light near shabas in special occasions when we're not home typically like with the family and the truth is even if you don't go away and is the way you live but as we'll see we touch upon the In This Very cherish of so is to try to find one simple I think today is pretty easy to realize that we have to clarify one thing what is the nature or what is the objective what is the purpose of the Mitzvah of n shabas what is it trying to accomplish once you know what it's trying to accomplish then we could determine where it should be lit make it a little moreish little more challenging we have a Mitzvah that seems similar to n shabas that's n can we compare n shabas TOA across the board so whenever you do by you do by shabas so the EMB is that there's no doubt about it n shabas has an unusual importance to it in says in other words even though washing for shabas is a greatah calls that a but is is an absolute must according to the fact okay weing like the ra per only but it's not as simple don't forget what the says it a person of limited funds he only has enough money either to buy wine for KES or shabas so you buy shabas and make KES on pass more so more well known says that the fish if someone has very limited funds they can only buy one candle and it's Kana what has priority so even though Kana has theum but n shabas goes first I mean do we need more than what the Mish says in shabas that when a person that they shabas test I'm sorry that one of the three a that a woman dies during child birth because she's guilty of is she's not careful with that's that's the punishment she but we like to me more positive the tremendous that one receives when you do things carefully so we have to try to clarify so what is the purpose of the Mitzvah and then we'll see is it similar to Kana or not soash on that rash says and this is something that we see in many places when you want to show a distinction you want to show coved you light an air not that you need the light could be it's well lit we make a bris we light an air we you Kipper in fact we don't even eat we light n is on the table you go down you have n he enough electricity and I think the says that the Min is to light quoting the how do you how do you how will you honor by lighting n so we see those words novah like is the Cornerstone of our the needs a special COV so reason number one we're going to use the word is a form ofab on that adds another reason and that he says now this for us is hard to understand we live in a very well-lit World a well well-lit society and we always have good good lighting but in those days if you didn't light in AIS it was dark there was no electricity and when a person eats and he doesn't see the food doesn't enjoy the food so to is saying it's really part of the MIT so is in fact so is synonymous with now I must also mention that it's during the sud a person has lights by the suda but the rest of the shabas it's dark so it's not shabas living in darkness is is a very depressing situation in fact tan the same tanuma it's interesting he says you have to lighten air shabas because if not you sit in the that's the way it is in geh geh is dark but shabas is now why do I stress this because the Min was in those days they lit NS in every single room the is be light even though there's no suda because is is primarily during the suda but anytime on shab when there's darkness that is the very opposite of so we have two reasons on in the rash says and says but we can't lose sight of the gar in fact that seems to say clearly the is sh says that's why if you only have one candle a shabas use it for shab is now this is something that somebody's misunderstood because when you hear the word Shalom we know what it means we have to keep you know peace between husband and wife which is true but Rashi and andash makes no mention of married couple rash says it is very depressing and very not conducive for at home when you don't have lights you could have two brothers living together or a single man living together he has light shabas he has no wife but it's not peaceful it is domestic tranquility is not accomplished when you don't see what you're going bang into the wall trip on this now a a big part of of bias is between husband and wife the r end of when he quotes there shabas has priority over he says because you're even allowed to race the name of hem to keep sh and says so there's no doubt about it the main reason of of of of sh is husband and wife but it's not limited to that a single person has a a divorced person has a it's to keep sh at home between yourself or with others so let's we have three good reasons the lighten a shabas and Sh which is the real reason they all are it's out of Ste is important sh is important and is important now to apply this to a few quick begins contrary to public opinion the MIT has nothing to do with women a man has the identical why you know what the answer is the answer to all questions today so you can get it once the reasons of and apply to men like women two boys two in a home they need the cover explains in gim so why do women have the Monopoly on this mitvah so because they're they're more on the scene the quotes the which is really in the that women starting from they will when they cause so as a weekly Kap they have to bring in light therefore they have the Monopoly on the Mitzvah of shabas now we'll soon use this but don't forget the Mitzvah is a on all genders there's no difference man woman boys or girl listen to an interesting according to quot it has nothing to do with the dining room you light in every single room why because if you have well lit dining room but when you get to the study there's no light so there's no there's no there's no so the reasons of the apply to every room now we'll soon see the is the true but the Mitzvah is on every single room why don't we do this today so the answer is p because typically we have lights or at least access to lights in every single room if you don't want to keep a light in the bedrooms but you have the whole room the hall that has lighting so basically you have access to light in every other room so therefore today we focus on the dining room in fact when you learn you'll see we have to explain how could you make a in the dining room we already have lights some people keep the lights off until they have the light shabas but the the probable answer is that even though you have lights but n shabas does what no electricity in the world could do there's a certain AA there certain kadha the N shabas adds you could have the most beautiful suda if there's no n shabas there something very very something very important that's missing so we still in the dining with the but that's it unless you have a dark room you have to put a light on we'll soon see an important is can you make a br when you light electricity is that in air is it but it's good for Shas we'll get to that soon but basically the point is that the three reasons are really gives us guidance in all the now let's talk so what is the nature ofab can we compare it to does it have the same parameters so the answer in this case might be because you think about the reasons has no is but have enough the so we would be tempted to say it's two separate Mitzvah but we do find a very important similarity and here's the big question since indeed men women and children why don't we see that me and you light in every of shabas if there's every individual just like I put on my son puts Onin why doesn't every man woman and child in the house light so the the the only answer seems to be that in this respect we have a similarity to you ask a better question also is a on every single person and yet we see that only the the lights okay by only the man lights the father lights we have the boys light also but the girls don't light the women don't light so this is the uniqueness of a very un a very different type ofah on every man woman and child don't forget girls are like boys over but there's a certain patent to and that is every person true but is accomplished by the lighting it's even hard to understand but that's the way it is it's a on everybody but unlike one person does it for the family now we could assume and that's what the P say the same CL applies to n shabas since it's in there mitah on we don't light in the street so even though everybody's but when the mother of the house lights she PES her husband and ultimas the only and this says in C that by we have an additional Factor called Pur so we see boys lighting themselves but shab no purum there's no purum in Isa so therefore we keep it that n shab one person light and his most the entire family I know it's not a good mus but it might help on both husband and wife equally to put M on the door right says but they don't both put up a mza one puts up and the other one now question and that is what's interesting is we see a but we see a major difference typically the man light the wife the just said why because and she's since the done Outdoors so the the mitz was given to the men not to the women in other words it's the oldest truth both are the same the man does it the woman does it now but it's but I want to make something very clear and this is important it's not theot that the woman the my wife stole the Mitzvah but okay I steal she steals the the of issue Bas is they both share the Mitzvah equally just like a woman is is in there and as if she did it so I lit every shabas that I'm married the wife did it but it's like now but we see something very dramatic by which is helpful for says when he was he would e light or chip in to whoever else lights like to do but once I got married it was M my wife lit at home and I didn't even have to chip in so did not light near so of course when we discuss we say that's the of goes both ways he was as if he did it because his wife lit for him but said we see something else from this regarding their and who had shabas he was not home he didn't even come for the sud he went to learn he was in a dormatory how could be with his wife so that's apparently part of the of it works long distance and logically and we'll soon see I saw I found this in the r one of the the same principle applies to n shabas as well if for some reason the wife is home and the husband not home he's in the hospital if she lies correctly he is long distance and it's not but that's the of if there's a in home base the family including children will soon see so we have a pretty clear a picture of this Mitzvah it's a Mitzvah men and women and children there are three good reasons but as we just added that we see that it's a mitas as well the husband and children are not as if they did it like the parent now let's apply this a little more specifically let's start off with a sim a woman went to the hospital to have a baby and she's beside herself she she can't light n shab no n shabas she's in a she's in the recovery room whatever it is she can't l n shabas so we tell her what's the problem someone's home your husband's home the children are home if they light 100% don't forget for the man to light is not a problem of it's a MIT on both genders now look that's CLA 110% I want to make this point over and over sometimes a woman because of an can't light and she feels that did the worst she's with the husband so that she's at least as good as AB did it and she could do it now the next question comes in in the opposite form IFA she's home with the children and he's in the hospital so again for him it's basically every every other shabas he's with anded shabas the end of he says shab is like the concept of like said it when his wife was there's no doubt about it anybody who's part of the family husband wife children if there is an atlock at home base at home they're all Ys now typically if the man can't light he'll accept that he never lights he's in the hospital he let him get better he's we'll soon see the issue is when the woman is in the hospital she feels besid us I can't light we'll try to get to that also but one thing I want to say according to some I'm not saying all but he says that since the the of of of mar Works he believes even if the husband for example is an in a different time zone and she's in America he is he's talking about in fact he let's say she is he's inel and she's in America if the husband lies she doesn't make he says you're not there anyhow so what's the a different time zone now we find that surprising but I'll tell you an interesting question a riddle you want to ask your family you get home today how is it a person was but was the mitvah of can't be right it could be let's say he lives he lived in he was punked in America he was in the hospital and he passed away of kanah was already seven hours ahead so if his wife lit and home and of course he was with his wife so here you have a situation he would didn't live to okay there some argue it can be but the point is I want to bring out this point this is the very expanded use of n when someone's home everybody's included perhaps even in a different time zone now consider the next question the the wife had a baby and the husband is there with her Friday night what's going to be with n shabas so if the children are home and I say children should never be left at home for shabas it's not good or but this is a extenda circumstances so here we see an extension of if the children above both parents as good as that's as long as the house has a and you look at theim he says can also make and the parents so we see we're getting a lot of usage out of this n now consider the next question the woman had a baby and this shab she's spending in aescent especially for and it's and they they make you they allow you to light so she lights with candles and she feels like a million dollars now the husband is home with the with his children she wants a good vacation the question is do the does the husband at home have to light or not so will say well let let them beu with her but here we come to another Z since the of this is the n is in B so if she's not home base she's not at home how could she part the family and point to it's page 152 with like says sometimes I didn't Li because I was talking about and I was my wife like AB but sometimes both the man and the woman have to light when they don't when they're not together when they don't have a home together when he's someplace and she's somebody else the none of them are home so said it's clear it's clear from this that to be to employ is the has to be at a home base so let's say she's with family and he's they both have even though she's lighting and presumably says the same applies to as well says to use is at least the one that lighting has to be home so if the woman is in a convalescent home and she lies with she's but the husband and children have their own and we'll soon see who lights when they're away but no doubt about it we see both the implications and the limitations of it works for the entire family even perhaps a different time zone but it has to be lit in home base now next question I'll tell you this important to mention because it's another expansion of Al sugya let's say the husband was supposed to be home for shabas but there was inclement weather he was stuck in a hotel at a town someplace Billy has shabas but he'll manage his wife is lighting at home so does he have to light there shabas not But Here We Come to an interesting question and that is being in a hotel you have a hotel a motel whatever it is he has one room in the in the quote the bedroom he can't keep a light he has to sleep so he has a light in the bathroom it's Yen feeling of K shabas there's very little lighting they really in he refers to it there that's but there's on every person so typically when the wife Lies We we husbands and children both and because the house is well lit but let's say he is in a dark hotel room there barely lighting so he has he's y with his wife's what about his bias look at his bias it's a pitiful situation now today it's hard to find impendent but this is a good example he has one motel room he used light in the bathroom the see so if they let him of course I they let him light light a candle light an air in a hotel room but he definitely has because of his very sad situation so he would have to light with the where he is so that's again another extension of n it has to be a bias where he's staying for shabas that's accommodating now if it's a well-lit home or he's staying by someone else he moves into a family and they have a beautiful shabas home so there's no with his wife but there is possible to have a independent even though there's no oh so that if you're a guest and you're eating from their food you don't have to either that's only M when you have two people lighting two two independent people but if you eat a part of someone else's food you're staying by them doesn't have to be now let's apply this further with many more examples let's talk about a again with the SIM the woman had a baby it's hard to light nous in the hospital but she has family so we could say clearly based on the sugya she is y with her either husband who lights at her home or children again as long as there's a nest at home she is 100% And AIS or should be told this you're as good as AB it's good for ab good for you now but I want to add a point but I know that I was neish that women have they they couldn't light they feel like the world has collapsed in front of their eyes quote early the minut was that the first shabas after lat they didn't light at all even if she was home comfortably the husband lit so wonder what's maybe because she's not clean but she is clean so the the has been discontinued but i s the end of sim says a golden aort he says I heard a because why does she have to light more than the husband because but this shab she brought in a real living she brought so she doesn't have to light or maybe the husband has priority now the women are not going to buy this and they still like the first shab have L but please give it over when necessary when a woman stop not stuck she's in the hospital she had a baby and it's she's unable to lie in the recovery room or whatever it is they're moving up and they think like M they're the worst in the world especially they worried about the 110% you could quote me with the with the home besides that has of the so just sit back and enjoy shabas you know the worst thing on shabas is when there's even during the week but the whole supposed to be and very often it's counterproductive so we have to go with what home oh we get to that one second but what I want to stress this is that they feel terrible that has no mo never never brings anything beneficial so remember ab and remember that she's 100% from the home Nowa will soon see there might be Alternatives lighting or electricity but one thing I want to say also if you're in a situation that you 100% with the so you want to try to do this maybe I'm okay you know but some it is maik you know why because she has a mind not to be with the family I'm going to do this questionable make a which is you might be left with nothing where's the emotions have to be controlled you know is someone that's a control of his so if you have a body Locker at home stick with that you want to lie in the hospital this and hope that hope for the best no but don't make a if it's a suff and don't exclude your family's or else you left with nothing so the main point I'm trying to bring out is when there's a family whether it's the husband or the children lighting at home she's y 100% he and she are y 100% now if for whatever reason she's in the hospital alone and the husband or children are not there with her so the question is who lights at home when you have the father boys and girl over baras Mitzvah so there's no doubt about it that in the father lights because he's has he has the equal the reason that the women like because the on them on the woman now it goes to the husband so no doubt about it that the father was still older and smarter than his children even in America so the father goes first i s says but the next question is if we just had this woman pass away young could be if the father who's an Alman really he should like every single a of shabas if he he wants to St his oldest daughter she's she's assuming the responsibilities and give her a certain distinction a certain mid and he wants her to light instead of the mother no that makes sense I'm not saying the father's plus technically the father has every every of shabas if he lies he has to make it t he's notab with the so he could have a he could drive to if the oldest daughter lights so she could do it so that's a she that the father has to take if he wants to you know his daughter as the that's understandable but one thing I saw and both say if the Father the husband is with the mother the wife it's the boys and girls at home no doubt about it the girls have priority because the both reasons now fall on the girls versus the boys now what I should mention also very often when the parents are in the hospital so a married sibling moves into the house so to Thea and that same Chua says it's wrong even though they could rely on the married sister's lighting and they're not going to light why give up a Mitzvah let the father of his home or someone of the of the family light in the dining room and at the same time we pass in you could also make another BR when a different couple light so basically if the order is the father and then the girls over the boys but even if there's another couple there both should lie with the BR this explains I hope it never happen says it if it's getting late and the woman ISP a bit so he should not wait for the light let him let the husband go and light the now I'm not advising that for today they would sue us but says this he said forget if Li on itself so you have no mitvah now the women are but if it comes to that it's not a because I don't want to be stuck with but before you do that make sure that it's Mish the last second Mish wife is in the hospital and the husband is sleeping over I mean sleeping over in a chair or in the lounge so happy I found he says that even though it's no bias but if she if he's with her and eating with her he's and with her so whatever she lies will soon see if you use electricity he would be included in that mitvah even if he has an apartment someplace apartment if he's eating with her he's with now unless he has in his dark apartment that you have to see but typically today they're pretty much well lit but the point is that even though we're not home based but if they're both eating together in the the hospital room or in the lounge then they're both included in herl the husband is in the hospital and she's home so again she he is sure certainly like AB was on Kana now typically it's very relieving because how's he going to find their shabas he doesn't know what to do even so typically the men that are in the hospital or away don't find a importance to light themselves now but basically the hospital is well lit sometimes it's too well lit you can't sleep at night it's like you know in the hospital so we could assume the light the hospital is not AAS on the husband he's y with the family and keep with that and everybody's fine now if the child lights child I mean over by Mitzvah at home and both husband and wife both parents are in the hospital both they're both y with the children that Lo and again but to find to light in the hospital don't exclude yourself from the children that Lo keep that just in case of course you need it now when I say someone is lighting the AL of say test you have to have a on shabas it's not just a ceremony that you do which it is but it's also a covered and shabas so there has to be on shabas so basically when a person lights at home he has on know the whole shabas but let's say a situation that a person is going to the hospital they want to light at home and leave right away make a make but you missed the point if no one's home to enjoy the neighs it's a so you have to realize that that's important another question I'd like to mention which unfortunately happens both husband and wife are in the hospital and they have SE not to leave children alone in the house so they send the children to relatives so the children like you mentioned earlier they don't have to by the Z by the Tanto the uncle because they're part of they're eating there that one kitchen and the but that leaves the couple in the hospital without a Mitzvah because the children being Yu with doesn't part the parents it's not home base so then the parents have to find an at will soon see if there's an what the a or electricity but let's say the r says based on your situation there's no a you can't light in the hospital they don't let nous and there's no candle available and there's no electric available so if it comes to it there's no a let me tell you clearly there's a concept in they do you know people feel so bad for no reason if you can't do it you're an oess i theas is if you and can't do it if the says you can't lie to the hospital and the children are by the grandparents so you're anus there's no if there's no now of course a person should call the r in advance of shabas not a minute and a half before the then because you can't get the when possible clarify if the says no so I'm not saying it's always like that but we've heard about that and people feel terrible the whole shabas that's not the r be depressed on chabas is not what n shab supposed to engender a difficult question is when a woman is PED physically sick and unable to light the NS so then again we go back to the original is her as well now if she wants that we find in the she can make a to light for her in the hospital let's say let's assume they let for some reason so the is you can make a either the husband he can re light the L himself or a nurse now we find other is a primary example but here points out in he says that when you have a doing it who lights that's a little depressing the woman has a mitz you can't you can't you can't make the but who makes the I'm sorry it's a little depressing she can't make the and she can't light but that is I saw the he says emphatically even if she doesn't like but as if she did it and and and as if she and all the scho for apply to her as well now if she can't be there let's say she was taken for treatment or whatever it is and wants to light it's but the is not there so here we find regarding if the if if the is not by that Lo then then can make a I'm doing for you when you're there says regarding in other words works but if she can't be there then can't be said now why do I say this because sometimes a couple Arab shabas are stuck in traffic and they call up a friend oh please lie in my house I'm making you a well better be early and don't be stuck in traffic but this can't light for them if they're not home what what they should do is the should Li in their own house and make a and have a mind they're going to do again go to the M's house use the and light for them but but what happens and this is important if the worst happened they're stuck in traffic and they got stuck they jumped out of the car a minute before this man and they have to walk home they come home 20 minutes they have to there's no Nars in the house so here we see an a fundamental like this if it's still call a and have the go light for them I know that sounds very unusual you know the make with their hands and go to the extent that that make and quotes many many the fact that the gr lights is pushing it but to have the is light on a non where do we have such a thing a is so says that they should have the but no now The Plea is you have a light which do so here we come to fundamental like we said since the objectives are ACC even if a you have you have you so who said is anything wrong with a so the question is to what extent says even that we don't make a but here we see a very fundamental difference between their and their shabas because only cannot light for someone else and come out all the except for that a that light is nothing it's not the it's so that is functionless it's useless all three reasons are accomplished if a so this is very comforting if for some reason the a woman is stuck and she only has a could the to light and definitely the question is or not if the if the has a then that's that's 100% with working for theing next group of questions is the hotel issue which is I wish it would would be easier than it is because basically let's talk about a couple that go away for shabas and again never leave children at home but let's say they had to whatever the reason is so the children lied at home the truth is that would be the the easiest alternative that parents at hotel are Yu with the children it's usually the same time zone and it's in home base what's wrong the children are theab however a woman will never hear such a thing she will never go to the hotel again if that happen happens so she has to light again question is where you going to light so in the rooms they say it's absolutely forbidden and I found and say if they say not to and the person does it anyhow so it's a and it's not aah and it's I'm not saying that they say that and don't forget you know we have to follow rules you know I'm always spoiled w is that when Advanced y so he ran away and he left the jacket behind M why did the yank had his jacket he was stronger than her so he said he had respect for authority she was his mistress dran you don't just yank something out of your mistress's hand I mean that's a madga but if they say don't and they they have good reason to say don't because there could be a fire and if the hotel something happens who knows what's going to be so I don't I don't want get into that now but I was once in AEL hotel with someone lit and the smoke alarm started to ring and the law is you can't close it until every last room was checked it was like two hours ringing fire fire leave at once for two hours the fireman came with the don't ask like you know walking around like it's shabas and they come and checking every room it was an awesome and let me tell you so it shouldn't happen and it can happen but there's an no wi situation you know the owner hotels are they're not any Isel have to tell you but what could you do they have 100 three 500 guas Lighting in their rooms I mean inevitably some tus so they used to put all the NYS in the back room and the last person finishes you know light it lock the door and throw away to the key which is very safe but it's not very uh you know shabas appropriate if you lie and leave the the place you can't get into it we having an know so that I saw again the all the that's but that has been discontinued so but what's the at if you can't light in the room you can't light in a safe place so to light on each table would be great but it's again it's not safe so they light it on a table a big table and you know you have to know where your nous are it's like parking in a big parking lot where I park my car you know 150 300 cars so it's really a difficult situation it's a pretty much a no- win situation but they rely on the women Lighting on a big table and they say that and they have let's hope for the best that that would be a viable option but okay we're going to get to electricity soon we're talking about lighting nous so again what what I would suggest is a person that knows he has children at home lighting have mind to be with that but the wife will never hear not the light at all light again in the hotel I would maybe suggest even make a make not make a br if it's a questionable situation at home which is 100% good for and all agree and you want to Li it again without a in the hotel fine if you think the hotel is so you can make a also but again don't give up a for a suff I'm not saying Hotel I'm saying very clear now yet if it's a suff don't give up a home for a suff if it's hotel and but another point I wanted to mention is sometimes a person has to leave a of shabas Emergency the last minute they have to run and but they have enough presence in mind that maybe we could lighten their shabas first it's not a life and death but it's an emergency so the cloud is after plug you allow to light before plug you can't light so the question is who's going to benefit from that if it's after the pl who's going to benefit from those neighbors so if the husband hopes to return home and it's a v return home so he could enjoy the nees if it's a suff then you can't light with a br be suff he might be delayed A lady could slep Out hours so then you could light after plug without a br hopefully he gets home if not you can't you didn't lose much if the children are staying home again not advisable but the children are staying home then she could light after this plug and the children will have benefit it's probably better that the children like BisMan and this way the is without a but if she feels she wants light especially she wants after the pl is good with tonai has to be made but make sure that we have an of course when you get to the hospital that's not the place to light don't start agonizing and and aggravating the hospital sta where could I light it's not a place to know to light near shabas an emergency room in a waiting room and these things happen and it really turns out you know pretty you know messy when people make so basically if there's someone home they could light and both parents because of like we explained I once clared if if let's say the isites after the plug and no one's home but then she asked a neighbor to come to my house I'm making a mini Shalom know those you know no real Shalom but I want you to come i p a lot of good food come with your husband eat and enjoy is that I know of someone else in my a is not my family I only found the who assumes that it works so if he says it I could I could trust him even though it's not a family member who's in it but if it's a a that brings that'll be okay now the old question of sleeping at home and the sud being in a is because says that the of and if they ask me why the answer like every other question today is all the reasons apply to and in again says that if you light and there's no you can't be so we have of the two places versus sh is that's fun fine but here comes the problem because if you're going to be in a and it's not either it's a big table like a hotel and you don't know where your NYS are and H is questionable so then will rely on lighting at home because one of the earliest that primarily any that one has at home he says is enough to make a and ideally it's but if the is question I'm not saying about any particular situation but if you feel in a Sim that there's a TENS or hundreds of families lighting and it's in a side room it's not on the not in the dining room and you know you have to have an imagination to feel you're having an so stay at home lie it at home make a br at home make sure you have either before the Suda you could stay home say learn whatever or afterwards if you come home in time enough and then you so that's definitely a better choice whenever you have a situation like this that would be the better choice and last but not least is probably the most challenging and that is let's say you're stuck in a situation that you have no a to light nous literally could be a hospital Hotel B you can't light fire is it an to use electricity electric lights electric lamps has a wonderful option a battery operated electric man will call it so this really could be a share for itself but L I think we could do it in the last few minutes and the answer is because if you think of all the three reasons that's s they are satisfied with electric lights it gives sham bias you see what you're eating it's see where you're going and presumably even cover if especially if you light a special electric Mana that brings a certain cover the biggest R is many shoes today don't have oldfashioned candles by themed they have electric lamps the assumption is if it's litov chabas would be enough now I'm not saying you know a lighting NIS but it's done so basically if we go with the Zas it should be fine in fact there's an incredible of one of the is not just a nursing home which it is but one of the is also the new printed in the back of he assumes for if someone has an EV he has a brilliant gem that illuminates the darkness that's that's even less than electricity there's no a at all but basically there is one school of thought that any any any light giving situation any electricity incandescent fluorescent LED makes no as long as you have light but here's the beauty of it almost all can say you're not with electricity why there it's to simulate the nest in B B have electricity so we need H near shab we need light so there's one school of thought in that you could light with a on any type of light giving situation however there are those that and they say but one second if the so lighting electricity is a it's not a but where's the nir so if you have an oldfashioned incandescent bulb that there is a glowing metal or today they have certain types of Lights it's hogen lights or Krypton lights that there is a filament that's really illuminated by electricity so there is a there is a a on shabas you put that on so you make a br on that but let's say it's in it's fluorescent or typically LED lights there's no h whatsoever now you don't have to have a college degree to know what I have you look you could see you know typically lights and shoes today are almost always LED but you still could find these again the hogen lights or or or something similar to that that has a filament so they would make the is if you have a n which has some at least AIC similarity to a now the EM is there are pois that hold every light is good I what about the word n so ra I'm sure you'll find more R but what I found is means fire does not mean fire means light on the word Nash says Cal so you look at theum thatum Cel is a lamp he brings places in Rashi other places in N has three TI of course conventionally N means fire in the toy in it means light and some N means the receptacle that holds the the candle so this at least I could explain the different sheas some hold it has to be light it doesn't have to be any semblance to a so any light is good there's a the middle she that holds it has to be at least some type of similarity to a and that is only achieved when you have a again a filament type of lighting has a whole different problem and he says in order to be anything or even shabas there has to be enough oil to burn that a typical electric lamp or light there zero there's zero oil there I electricity could go as long as you keep it on but it's constantly being generated so his problem is there not an oil Source or something that will keep go burning there so you're making a on zero potential so he says if you have a battery operated uh lamp or flashlight even that the power is there and it is incandescent B that's fine but electricity that there's no source of age that's there now that's that has to be generated every probably 100 times per per minute there's no a because there's no oil potential so it's really hard to give a Mason but I think I say the following that basically if a person could design and Tak the wonderful work of the they have this available a electric Mana I'll call it Mana that is battery operated is recharged every time before shabas and it has a filament so that we're quite comfortable to say that the is can make a I can't say because at the end of the day it's not fire but at least that would comfortable to make a on because you have manyas that that's good and quoted in that they held even on electricity without P without a filament the is life so what I would suggest writes this in in even in you do things and you try to avoid any doubts any risk we don't take risks in business we do things that are risk-free in what he calls how do you leave and put yourself in spus so what I would think is when a person has a situation like this where he has to light electricity if there's someone at home lighting whether it's the husband the spouse or a child stick with that and be with that the woman should light the electric lamp without a br if it's battery operated and you have a filament and she'll feel B not making a br you make a with that but the light put on the the light in the room which almost always is flues is LED and make a on that you're getting why leave what you have at home which is a perfect and put yourself in a suff so if the but I can't do it say okay we're going to do is you put on the light you'll say is there but don't make a feel good that you have lights at Home the is to realize that we have a t that gives us the or the do what's right that and talk to you all great sponsoring 718 851 8651 email. the other two minutes [Music] quickly before this man let's have the SE on the just we learn we see a very special MIT there are three reasons and shalom in some ways it's similar to nah in some ways it's very different but basically the is on men woman and child that's for like and but there's also a clause that if someone likes at home base at home the whole family men women and children they did it the should be in all rooms but today that we have lights in all rooms the main is the in the dining room even if a person is not home but if his family is lighting at home it works long distance and perhaps even in a different time zone when a person is in person's in a hospital so whether husband or wife or children with the at home if you could manage to get a that's ker in hospital fine but basically the the point has to be that if there summer lighting at home all the families children could p i mean children Over Bar Mitzvah could P both parents if need be if the wife's staying somebody's else she's staying in a convalescent home and she lights there but she doesn't P to anybody cuz she's not home based it could be that even if a person's with his family at home but if he's in a dark place which today is pretty rare but if he's in a dark place he has a independent that's enough Tak to make a after lat if she misses that Lo she should told that she doesn't have to light it the family lit and also the first shabas the meaning was that they didn't light at all when a person feels bad about n shabas when there's no fault to their own it's it's really misplaced emotions that has to have to be told that the russem was just like the way it was the father if the the woman's away or let's say an Alman with his children the father goes before the daughters and if the father father wants to delegate the daughter fine daughters go before Sons a married couple moving in does not not is not that loer for the for the parents the parents light and the the young couple lights as well a wife that lights in the hospital and the husband is spending shabas around somewhere he with her every case that you light there must be you can't just light and run that might be if a person can't light they're running to the hospital they there's no because they're not could light for someone if the is there and the makes the if someone stuck in traffic or whatever they came home after this man before the the is and presumably with that as far as is concerned but said Hotel do it right I'm leaving that pretty you know clear don't give give up that lock in the house for a suff hotel if you have a hotel then you can make a to light in the room against the law is probably leaving us with no and perhaps there must be an shab emergency is a problem with that in a Sim decide if you have in the if not light at home and have a no at home the basic cloud is but if the is questionable then stay at home and with electricity with a filament and a battery operated um flashlight or man you can make a br on it otherwise better avoid the BR