Is This Bishul? A Practical Guide - Rabbi Yaakov Zev Smith

[Applause] is uh [Music] is this bishop a practical guide have to write supposed to sponsor and share cool ignorance you retire 718-851-8651 or email ist at the shivanet.com smith recently had a child that was very challenging someone opened the hot water fossa by mistake on shabbos but actually the child had opened it and the question was is the mutter to close it he was told this is the problem of maher bishuli and he wasn't sure what that meant what does the mao bashuli mean and i want to discuss a number of other similar shadows that at first glance don't seem to be a question of visual but in essence could be really a kasha of bishop now the embassies will see the common denominator of today's is something that is not a conventional mice a bishop of putting food on a fire or putting food in an oven but basically what you're doing is you're accelerating you're causing the cooking process to go quicker and the question is when there's something that seems to be an innocent act of just um covering a pot or closing an oven when could that be a real mice a bishop on shabbos i say the story somebody has to say about moving part closer to the fire so the rav told them back gives the khalee spirits with fire which is really really applicable you talk about bissell we're playing with fires you have to make sure that you know what you're doing before you play with fire so the embassy is that we could wonder why should closing an oven door or soon see closing a pot why should that be a concern of bishop i'm not doing the conventional bishop i am not putting food on the fire but as we'll see today the question is if something that's cara of ammar is really interchangeable is that enough to be a mice a bishop theorizer so what comes to mind is the gemaran bayata foreign says there are a few people could be involved and each one could be over on bishop der eisem sectimar one person brings the fire one person adds the wood one person puts the pot on the fire some one person adds water and one vehicle magus and one person mixes this part they're all high about bishop so the obvious question is the one that makes the fire heads the water puts the water up that's bishop magus he's not eating anything why is that a melaka dericia bishop so rashid says in the vashtil magus is marvel mavasho of melojo evidently merely mixing food that's already on the fire and the fire is already made merely mixing food is magus which is the vascularizer why parrot is polished because by mixing the food you are hastening that's hulei and just like bishop is also us now this we also see a second source in shabbos youth base make a long story short you are speaking about you have a pot that's not fully cooked you take it off the fire but magus as the gamer calls it mixing a part of food which is still hot even off the fire magus is a form of bishop and the cabin quotes is that mixing food that's hot that alone is a mice bishop because mixing hot food quickens the cooking process now there's a third source which is based on a rama and the chubus in the end of kufba is also the rama the end of register that seems to be an outdated question but today it's once again very much relevant in the old days many people the minute was to keep food in an oven in the baker's oven actually because they didn't have their own ovens in the house but you had a baker's oven and there were more disgusts as they and the tubas in the end of cuff bays if the oven wasn't properly closed so merely closing the oven doors up to our mom could be bishop their eyes and not only closing the oven door could be bishop der eiser but says they're even if it's a suffolk if the food is fully cooked in other words closing the oven door when the food is not cooked is bishop the ricer why says the remba very positive because if the door is open so then it takes much longer to cook the food in the oven when you close the door properly so it cooks much quicker so therefore merely closing an oven door is mahi bishou like an hour cooks quicker in fact rama says it's so much of an issa the rice of closing an oven door that even if you it's a suffolk if the food was cooked just fake of their eyes to the home so here we see something very striking i'm not touching the fire i'm not touching the food i'm closing an oven door why is that bishop parrot says it's not conventional bishop it's maher bishouli because now it cooks much quicker since the fire is being contained and the heat is being contained and the final source is actually based on rashbam the mahabharat twice and raised in dal at sea dalit and wrestling zayan sieve dalid the mahabharata quotes the let's say you have food as hot but not fully cooked adding some more insulation some more another layer of covering is the last of the is you're going for bishop because there's heat in the food but the heat is escaping if you so if you wrap the food forget about atomana this is real bishop because now it cooks quicker so we have five cases in sugar regarding this concept of mamahir bishuli what's the shot very positive even though you're not doing the initial maester bishop but memari be schuler making you cook quicker that itself is a mice bishop derisa spells it out if someone has a fire and there's there's food on the fire and he makes the fire a little bigger so besides this of havora it's an exhibition dr baker why because care of bishop is also bishop is awesome and even a sophomore be sure should be treated like a fake at the riser so basically we're very comfortable to say that not only is bishol awesome but mikhail vishul is also a bishop a question of bishop derice now you might wonder why do we call it a derisa isn't that a bit of a grammar if i put food on the fire that's my submission here the food is on the fire i am hastening the cooking process i'm causing it i'm accelerating the visual process why is not a grammar and the embassy is it's interesting it's noteworthy i should say in both in rachel and zion and rachel and tess the shahana is glorious by making kiribati you're going to make it bishop so maybe he means to say that it's not a bishop derice it's grammar however it's not mustafa because from the rama is the fairish even a suffix macar besula is our south fake of their eyes so what what's takasha so pasha will say it's really very simple it who said it's a grammar if a person mixes food it's not a grumble he's doing a mice to be dying closing the oven door is you're containing the heat maybe that's you're doing a direct mice to the food but the embassy is there's another very convincing argument because let's step back a moment maybe every bishop in a certain sense is grammar don't forget when you make bhaira it happens right away when you make token it's right away loss is right away giroma doesn't happen right away you put food on the fire it starts to cook it's a long process so why isn't every bissell only a gram so the simple terrets is maybe it is but then again zere is also a grammar you put in the ground it takes a few days to germinate so maybe the aside is like that kimura and bhava kamba darsamach maher has another cancer zoira winnowing throwing true in the air should also be grammar because the wind comes and blows away the upsilous why is that a gram so the gamora says it's a very mysterious lotion and that's why it's us only grammar is only a factor in nezhikin but what does that mean the rush afternoon if that's the melody even though it's the grammar the tara asked it who cares what it is tyra zeraya tera acid zoya so we could add maybe that bishops also may be grammar but that's the that's the torah says and the m is allah seems to suggest that every bishop is grammar but it's filled in this other isa and you want to see more about this the heartsv and sim and kuf also entertains the thought that every bishop is only grown but it's still awesome so whatever the us whatever the swara is i think we're comfortable to say that based on five places we saw that makara besu like is definitely awesome and it's probably what is considered amara be sure so we saw moving a path closer to the fire which is not fully cooked mixing hagasa closing an oven door is mamarabi sulei covering the patent marbie sulaim and as we'll soon see if you have food in the pot and you take out some of the food the rest of the food cooks much quicker less volume that's also the mariby shoelace and that's the case of macaro biscuit so now that we have this bit of information let's apply it more specifically so let me start with a simple case which might be an oversight some people don't realize today again we started using ovens once again and it's very common people put the soup the chicken the coogle and tomorrow's challenge into the oven heir of shabbos what happens if in a short friday a person comes in late for work and he had no time but kitsap he put the chong into the oven raw no problem by tomorrow we'll be fine now here's the problem he opens the oven to take out the soup friday night no problem especially he has a he's he has an uh light indicator when the oven is on so he opens it up and he's on he's very from the oven is army opens the oven fine you know the problem is closing the oven door if the challenge pad in the oven is not fully cooked so when you close the oven door your mama is there mom and the tube is under a mine enragement test so here we can have a cage that the oven is on and the food is all cooked except for the challenge and he forgot about the challenge but closing the oven door would be mama be soul for the challenge so the only aids would be for states either make sure the charm is cooked before shabbos or if you came home late keep the chocolate on again and the gas right on the black and then you could use the oven but you can cancel bait the castaners you can't put raw chong in the oven and open and close the oven or friday night another case which is important to mention let's say it came friday afternoon again and bark has plenty of food for the shabbos and the fire the actual place where the fire is is he put the soup and the chicken understandably so that one's that has to be hot the challenge is on the side next to the soup pot next to the chicken pot when he finishes the souder he wants to move the challan pot and put it i'll gabriel h to the hot spot very good but if the chong is not fully cooked that's mama's like vegas case you're moving the even though the tone is on the age and it's pretty hot but if the child is not fully cooked moving it from area b which is off the fire onto the fire even if you have a black but that is macarab shoelace obviously it's going to cook much quicker so this is not a question of mercy kimber shall because you have a bless this is the real mccoy bishop halawa it's only mercy this is the real mccoy bishop so moving the challenge from a place on the side of the black algae would qualified to be bishop derice so in fact if someone did it by mistake what he would do to do quickly is take it off because this is visual in progress now we have a question and this is let's say he picked up the challan pot and he wanted to have a lael shabbos but and he realized that the summit is not cooked so he quickly put it down on the on the black because he doesn't want to take it down so he should quickly take it off now what does he do he's holding this challenge so believe it so he can't have it tomorrow because it'll be cold by tomorrow she thinks you know what let's enjoy it now see so it wants to mix it to get some maximum heat this is mamesh this is this is off the fire and it's hot but if it's not in this battle called soraka and merely mixing it would be bishop their iso in fact it's probable and the biologist says this invasion zai and steve dalid merely putting the cover back onto this half raw challenge is also bishop because the pot cover will keep the existing heat within so the only aids is we put the charlie down put the cut the cover down and when it cools off put the cover back on put it into the refrigerator enjoy it from a lava malka but you can't have it for sharpest re putting the cover back and or certainly mixing it would be my car be sure even though it's off the fire simply learning up a suggest that's my forus quotes the base maya that says putting a cover on to an uncooked challenge if it's still out of steel bishop that's my maharabi shuli now butler mice uh we have to realize that most often when he didn't put on the on the black or oven it's fully cooked and then there's a totally different outlook and then there's a mother we have to learn from any other shylus it's actually a michelin shabbas cookman with base in the morning that whatever was cooked on arab shabbos we have a lot of ambition and what that means is very simple a person came home on time mayor of shabbos and cooked the chong and now it's fully edible it's fully cooked it's liquidy but it's fully cooked but he by him you know tone that has to be burnt you know whatever dried and if it's just liquidy it's not how you know it's so friday night the child is cooking and by tomorrow you know tomorrow morning it's going to be good ice cube but friday night he couldn't put on top of the fire so you put it next to the next to the fire you put it next to the chicken and the soup and now right now he looks at the chong and it's fully cooked but he wants it to make it much more smart so after he finished the chicken and the soup he wants to move the choline pot from spot b that's on the side of the black agape so it should be really smart so this is perfectly mutton because just since the child was cooked arab shabbos and bishop bishop ah you want to make it much better that's what's called mid-stomach the affiliate and the improving food is not bishop vicious cooking food nothing don't have any shabbos so basically to bring it from this basil called sarcoid to a better quality is what's called [Music] a bishop bishop a true it's better but it's mysteric theophilite and there's no shiloh whatsoever so basically the philip is posted the first case that we spoke about was not in this bachelor called sarcoid yes the second case was a real ambition the question of course is what is the exact talakha when is something considered fully cooked you know there are different different levels there's raw there's partially cooked and there's fully cooked but you're making it better so i'm going to learn a few lines and you can mark as every kimora it's there's so much and so little but it's mama's amazing the whole is this little sticker looking shabbos whatever is cooked to michael bendurus arashi taichu's these were ghana of him listen and as list them they have to always be on the run they can't stay in one place and they don't have the liberty of cooking something fully so they cook something as rashi says a third of its bissell could have to go and after a third they have to brave it and eat it as it is so when something is cooked only a third bendu soy so when a in a context of bishop akko we're not talking about bishops when a yid cooked something one third and then left it and the guy came along and cooked it to completion as long as the yield cooked at one third it's considered cooked and what to get going today afterwards is of no consequence whatsoever there's no dinner bishop why because since it was cooked by the one-third it's temple that's identified as cooked and the guy's cooking is of no value in halo so it sounds like that once it's a third cook it's considered this basil and that is as we told you earlier the when something is fully cooked it's fully cooked michael bender soy is much less the lucky is when something is fully cooked you don't need a black theoretically if someone has a fully cooked challenge and for summer he has no blur he threw it out before pacer he didn't buy a new one the first jobs at the base of his panic at no black the world's not coming to an end you're allowed to keep food on the fire without a black if the food is fully cooked i mean if someone comes in and sees your house without a black they but there's nothing wrong this bachelor culture doesn't need a black when do you need a black if it's not cooked when is it considered cooked that you don't need a black so this is the next line of gemara called whatever is michael bender you're allowed to keep on the fire ah nagru fukutuma that means if before shabbas it's a it's a rabble soon see it's a half cooked you don't need a black fine keep it as it is okay again the minute is to always have a plaque so we see two when's considered a third is enough bissell and for black a half is enough so why don't we a apply the same is true regarding michelangelo's if the chunk was half cooked before shabbos i could move it and put it on top of the fire it was good bishop if it's good why is it good for his bishop and indeed the bear lock and shin dialed that once the food is half cooked before shabbos it's considered reversal and whatever you do afterwards is aim bishop bishop it is basically stomach theophyllite so that means once a food is cooked halfway you could move it and make it hotter no problem however we could say iboy is a macro spoke about two cases of michael bender soy bishop and black why did umar speak about the more common case that if it's only half cooked you'll have to cook the rest of it you know the terence is because cooking on shabbos is an isothera iso maybe to be considered visceral aspirin is basically cold circling otherwise it's bishop their eyes why we may call michael bendurou soy only by their abundance bishop akam is only the abundant in the in the worst scenario and the din of having a black is that an issa because you're putting it on the fire before shabbos if your child was cooked halfway before shabbos and you first need it tomorrow you're not going to be makata it's only a hashtag once it's cooked arab shabba is halfway you know so maybe we could understand when it's only a dragon so is fine but the question is bringing it from michael bender soy on to to fully cooked on shabbos that's bishop derisa and indeed the same bir aloha quotes the rambam or zarua river say for truma smack smack and ago that regarding bishop daraisa it's only considered this battle called sarkar if this is bashar khan circuit anything less is bishop derice spells it out that's called messiah ligmar bisholi that's where my visualize and it's bishop so this question that we thought was simple is far from simple if you have a food that's cooked halfway and you bring it to fully cooked by just moving it on the black or stirring it or covering whatever it is like manny was showing him it's perfectly mutha and like when he was shining it's a malacha there is a bishop now so that's why you understand the mechaba and shinyu valid pasking like to be shining that this is bishop their iso it in in the best scenarios of their isa what's considered michael so i told you rashi says the masseter shabbos a third but there are we showing him that say a half has to at least cook 50 not 33 percent and as long as the yid cooked it a third it's okay but by us enraged and valid see base regarding it's always their iso so for them to be considered michael bender so you have to go with the biggest has to be 50 cooked now how do you determine percent thirty three percent how do you determine the mathias of this particular food so the casinis says something very logical well let's say you know your challenge cooks in six hours so obviously a third is two hours and a half is three hours but the hazardous himself points out that that doesn't always work because when you're cooking something the first half hour it doesn't get cooked it first has to warm and heat so bam is the proper the probably the better way to determine is the rice and raisin and gimbals that whatever is eaten is considered microbender if you know this food is not the way you want it but you'll manage whatever is considered this basil that would be considered soy if you know how to figure out looking at the food how much is cooked fifty or thirty three percent i've had that's fine but one thing i'll tell you ravosna said if you cook something fifty percent and it's still not necco then forget about percentages that's considered raw leader if something is edible can only cook the 30 percent so if it's edible that at least michael bender soy so basically you have to look at the food and know them at seas but one thing i will tell you that there's no doubt about that that when in order to be makel to make something warmer you have to make sure it's bushel cold circuit michael bender is not enough yashif in other words this is eaten by people people each other even if it didn't boil out and mom is dry now some people like to drive that's fine that's wisdom theophily when something is considered edible fully cooked then even though there's improvement beyond that it's considered bushel and ain't bishop i'll tell you an interesting thing regarding bishop akrum we find a trip a cooler miss shoeless first of all we rely on the site at zoma bishol also the shakanara said even a third cook is not bishalakum but the biggest kid is listen to this let's say the guy cooked it a third and the yidd cooked it two-thirds sometimes you get frozen product let's say french fries might be like the guy did it partially and he did the rest of it so that you could also be then we say it's not enough then the deciding factor is number bushel called circle the next question which is got a a beautiful part of this sugiya today there are because of technology there are many heating elements that there is not shark to make a black for example crack pots most of them come with two pots the insert and the heating element but there's still a crackpot that's in one piece so you can't put a black you know typically when you have a crackpot so you put aluminum foil in between the heating the heating element and the insert so that's a blend but they're crackpots that are one piece there's no it's not even chance to make a black or today they're having the the moisture's having shivas and caterers have these big boxes that they keep things warm sometimes you can even cook in them the kids it's a big moving oven so to speak no black many people keep food in the in the oven and quantum moisture you need black on all four sides you have to have a special box which some people don't even have okay some people rely on just a cover on the bottom of the on the floor of the oven but let's say the kids you're keeping in the oven you have no black so here we have a number of cases in our time that you want to keep food on shabbos that's not fully cooked and you have no black so here we could say people whether beyond them or below your edem there is an important cooler to mention because as we said earlier the gemara nothing less than the gemara and the gimbal see if that when do you need a black that is if food is still raw once food has become at least soy sauce you don't need a black you could keep it on the fire without a bleph again that means a person doesn't have a block in his house the child is a halfway cooked keep it on the fire without a black why like we said it's no longer question of bishop you're not going to stir it or mix it or move it it's just keeping it on from the foreshadows that's an incident so be there our bonnets we could be makel that once it's michael bandusoy 50 cooked there's no more concern of if it is at least fifty percent cooked now i kept saying fifty percent cooked because that's what the chicken are saying raised in dal at sea base but it's noteworthy that if you think about it we could really be making even if it's only a third cooked because this is only an issa de rabbon and by the bottom we may go by a third cook like we see a bit by bishop and taka in the mr register he says pastas it should be halfway cooked but you could be makel a third iron elio robber if you look the value rap attacker rachel and gimmels he's cotton teslav he brings it come out a half a dozen daily pie skin we shine him that say you could be makel if the food was a third cooked and again the star is very positive it's only in this other bottom so what could be on a double cooler the michael bender is enough and the third is michael bendurusoy so let's not push it you know once it's halfway cooked you could leave it on the fire without a black bishop even if it's only a third cook now why do i stress this because again for those that have a problem they come home late and especially in these shorts of arab survivors and they want to put food in the oven and they won't open the oven until tomorrow they want to get the chunks in the oven and they don't have a plaque in their oven they don't have a box they don't have a covering so if the child was cooked at least a third half but it's cooked a third before shabbos you could leave it without a black now those again that that have these these heating elements are all sorts that have no black muscle people can use a crock pot that that's not you have to make a bluff the only hectare would be if you cook it a half or minimally a third before shabbos begins but the price can say it's not advisable to have foods that were not fully cooked before shabbos for three good reasons because typically a person might come to move it a little closer so that's bishop their iso he might lift the cover to see what's doing and then if it's not fully cooked you can't put that to cover and it's much worse you might remove food from the from that pot so whether you have food on a black or in any type of heating element like it's best to cook it entirely before shabbos that's the mini coil but if someone is found in a shasta comes home late the kits or whatever it is if it's a shasta situation so if he has a black theoretically he could put the food up totally raw as long as he has a breath just don't touch it until you know it's fully cooked and if he has no black so if it's a half cooked even a third cook then he could use it even without a black and again that applies to all of these various electrical appliances i heard i saw for the first time a pasta let's say you were told don't forget to put the the kugel into the oven or on top of the onto the black no you forgot now it's shabbos the cookie's going to be cold it's all in bias at stake so it's a very simple later kugel is fully cooked before shabbos so take the kuggle and put it on top of a challenge now that's called agave kadera there's no issa of hazara on shabbos so it's fine but here's the here's the catch if the choline pot is not fully cooked by tomorrow be cooked no problem but now it's not fully cooked then you made it to a buffet two places because based on the rajbam says you can't put a covering onto a pot because it's macabre shoelace so if the challenge was not yet fully cooked so adding a piece of kogol an innocent act is marbuscule of the the content of the pot in fact the say there's also to cover something even if it's off the fire but here is why they under fire an attack of the maura shabbos and khalid bayes ahmed raiju says he didn't find any earlier poison but it's very mustafa and he's right so that's another reason not to keep food on the fire unless it is fully cooked but the mice if a person had a shasta so you keep it on the black but don't touch it until it is fully cooked if it's again not fully cooked and the person picked up the cut cup and it's not fully cooked then you can't put it back and you have to just leave it as it is another important locker that it could like to mention is really negative to the those that have a challenge friday night but basically we know that when you have children fighting out you have to be a little of a you know a crafty individual you can't scoop out shaolin when it's on when it's on top of the fire now the question is why not i know for a fact my child was cooked fully before shabbos so why can't i scoop out food you say it's a gossip i know it's a gossip but agosa is not worse than bishop and if the child was cooked before shabbos ain't bishop so why can't i scoop out challenge from agave age the terrorist is in slurry right but this is the famous you sight of the cowboy and similar one of them is showing him who for whatever reason he writes that we never mix or scoop food that's on guppy your age on shabbos even as fully cooked now the meister the sugar in the end of shiny trash quotes this kobe never to either stir or scoop out food that's agave or age on shabbos the question is why so that's a good question and the price can explain either maybe some of is not cooked or someone might do it next week when it's not fully cooked but at the end of the day the shakonaro closed his culby so that's why the the simple eights would be if you want to have friday night challenge slide the the talent on the side of the black when it's not on gabby or ace then you could take out the child because no problem with a gust especially like i be age then you could slide it back because it was always on the black and that was off the left there's no mexican that's one alternative or if someone wants if he has someone to help him one person holds it and the second person scoops out the child and puts it back both options are acceptable but the point is the kobay just accentuates what august is all about august is so much of an issue bishop that he was criticized by a gossip that's fully cooked shouldn't that's the easy part the question is what's the solution a person was delayed or whatever so anyway he forgot the urn was not put up before this man so he quickly fills up the urn and plugs it in a minute before tessa fasabas is that mutual so the problem of course is that this is a case of water that's that's raw that's fully uncooked beginning of shabbos and to my knowledge no urn has a black so what's the hector to put up water right before this man if it gets cooked can my bender that we saw is okay you don't need a black but this water was not cooked at all before shabbos was after the plug in our urban before shabbos excellent question so here we come to a beautiful vega i mean everybody is beautiful i shouldn't say but um has the following that we know your ladder cook in the sun take an egg a raw egg and cook in the sun because they run guys to cook in sand that was worn by the sun isn't it whatever that's seems to be you could put an egg into the warm sand before shabbos and it will sort of get cooked over shabbos in fact you got to do that tall dice or is also mutter before shabbos and it cooks on shabbos wait a minute how could you keep some food in total is hammer told us or you know how to keep raw food before shabbos why is it motta dr kive wait a minute why is it also they keep food on the fire before shabbos that's raw doesn't work so there's a heartsv in kuflam with who's asked the following question mama she saw it how you say this for us in this 21st century someone asked him when they started using electrical appliances crock pots and urns there's no black i the fire is covered it's up the hearts me there's not a question of covering the fire you have to have a hacker and if that's the way the appliance always looks with the covering it's not a hacker covering's not enough dr hartsville was talking about probably 60 plus years ago this heating element has no adjustable knobs it's either on or off so if there's no shem yakata because you can't adjust it then you don't need a black in other words keeping raw food even fully raw food on a fire that's not adjustable there's no chamois so you don't need a plug now again don't do it in your own house because first of all our gas rangers have have adjustable knobs and also our minister always use a black but when it's negative to our case of an urn if again it's a non-adjustable it doesn't have a high low medium it doesn't have a reboil button it's just on or off so once you put it on before shabbos there's nothing you could do on shabbos except for saying tell them it should go quicker but there's no adjustable knob so that's the hectar to plug in an urn right before shabbos because there's no on or off button and it's fine someone asked them maybe this should not be muted for a different reason because let's refocus for a moment let's say you did just that you were lied to the heart's feet you plugged in your non-adjustable urn okay right before this man and you went to school you're not having a cup of hot tea until the two three hours from now so by it'll be all ready then but the banana bias want to make the a baby bottle for the baby so three minutes after you plugged in the urn your wife already made shabbos takes out some hot water and realizes first it's not not hot but by taking out some of the hot of the water that's the marabi shoelace it's gonna cook quicker so moisture was yes maybe we shouldn't have an urn that's not fully cooked not because of but s might remove water so much says you're right i think you're right you should not leave an urn that's not fully cooked before shabbos because i might remove the water now replenish almond in the sugar raised in the gimbal gimmel bays says where maisha did not mean to say it's awesome it didn't because we don't have the jurisdiction to make new gazebos it's very logical to say that if someone takes that water it might be too late but then again it's probably more logical to say that you should put a a a cover on your bathroom light switch because a person invariably close the light when he walks out parrot says you know you got to be careful but you can't make new gazers because i made it black but not that they made you can't put water before shabbos so he felt that moisture didn't hold his awesome equity then it's just not advisable no okay so we'll say it's not it's not advisable but if someone has no choice he could plug in the right before this man if it's not adjustable it is and make sure that the water is not taken out until it is fully cooked now this leads to the next question which is really a big question because it's going to get to probably all of us what is considered fully cooked regarding hot water now let me explain the typical urn of today the better ones even maybe 160 170 180 maybe 190 but some people like a tea that you know that you know you barely could hold it but they say ah they count they asked me mom is that that uh 212 nothing less so from a hot tea to a boiling cup of hot water 212 is you know for some people sway belton it's because um you have an urn that you put on the black and because you couldn't put an amish on the fire before shabbos because there's chicken and soup there you put on the side but it's hot after the friday night sooner there's more vacancies you want to pick up that kettle and put it right on the hot spot and it's going to get boiling 212. bringing up hot water from 170 or the likes to 212 do we say that's like from michael bendru soy to fully cooked which is bishop or ice going through or do we say no no no once people most people drink hot water from an urn it's 170 180 whatever it is but not 2 12. i like a very very hot cup that's called mid-stomach the awfully so 170 180 is basically especially it's way beyond the the lowest shear of yazoo led display so another nascar mean it would be let's say the child needs a big yeshua it's drying out friday night it's not going to make it till tomorrow so you want to pour hot water from the china that at this point is only 170 you pour it into the challenge the child is mama's and it's really very hot and within a half hour that water will reach 212. so you have another scenario where you're bringing water from 170 180 to 212. so this is interesting that it's not in gemara and finally but their moisture is cotton says mistavra is that once it's hot it's considered basically bringing up the rice cream is just hot enough 170 when the verses in in the ignition you are there at the end of simeon base regarding bishop it says 175 is certainly considered as bachelor called circling so our mighty clearly held once you get to 170 175 certainly you could bring it to 212. that is mitstamik the offi however the min it's interesting all based on an egg lay towel let me show you what the towel was and writes in the safe that once the water is is hot it's his bachelor called sarge in that small days he retracted the uh that water is considered cooked when it's rice came boiling at 212. so all the heineke paiskim said if the if the igle tower had karate and held it has to be fully cooked then anything less than boiling is considered maiko bendurusoy and the kazanishan dinavan hoggas your baes your gimbal actually the shabbos healer dubbed also say that regarding hot water it's tucker edible it's like a drinkable i should say but when is it considered called it has to be at 212 degrees so you're talking about a suffolk terrain certainly but most players can feel that it bring it from 170 to 212 could be bishop their iso so i will tell you there are two simple aces to make the holidays and that's something that you could do every shop is not so hard if you use a chinec so before shabbos give an extra moment or two and keep the water on the keep the china on the fire until it reaches boiling points that doesn't make that long then you can put it on the side of the black next to the chicken next to the soup and then it's still hot but rice the temperature will drop come back to 170. fine but after the sun you could put it back on the hot spot ah you bring it from 170 to 212. but once there was this battle called sarcoid and it still had a bishop because it's still it's still drinkable it's still hot so then you could do what you want now the only problems if you have an urn so the truth is if you have an earn it's not you have to put it onto the fire the only rishabh you're going to take from the urn and put it into the challenge to save the challenge oh so that is another eight it's very mustafa when you put the water into the challenge you're not you don't want to make the water 212 into a pneumatius you don't want to have challenge tea you're basically trying to save the child from burning so in the worst scenario it's sort of malachi and sweetheart maybe even less it's their budget as a side factor in fact i once heard true story someone's child needed a big issue and the guide to the mate on her own took cold water then asked initialists and put into the challenge the question but one of the points he says is that there's not a real bishop the guy didn't cook water for your tea which is also to have our noah the guy put it to save the child and the worst scenario the cooking of the hou of the of the cold water is the molar spirit but in our context the fact that it's hot so it could be the mokkum of it sorry to save the challenge you could rely on these two swaras first our moisture holes it's considered as basil and besides that as we said this would be a malacca in the worst scenario and that'll be in that context only we discussed a few weeks ago when someone made a dozen eggs for shabbos to make egg salad and the mice they were all soft boiled so we discussed then that many pies can help you can't put the eggs even in in hot water nuclear v because it's bissell now now you understand a little better where that's coming from because even though people eat soft eggs but they say first it's not too healthy still has that concern of that contamination but more than that people eat it that's michael bender but bringing from soft to hard would be considered bishop i mean if bringing water from 180 to 212 is bishop their eyes like many sheets so isn't it logical from soft to heart is the same bishop and that guy saw the shmiah shabbos quotes upstairs almond that's concerned about bringing an egg from soft to hard to the bishop now that's itself on your treslamades he says an egg that was sas rocco i know what that means but it's not hard you could bring it up to make it hard-boiled if you if there's no problem with bishop he says because it's like a mid-stomach theophyloid so maybe he would hold that this is not considered such a big change especially if it's it's basically hot but the ms if you want to make egg salad and you try making eggs out with soft eggs you'll see that it's not an hot egg so i could understand why those are not to do anything with this type of egg a very challenging question is when someone put on the hot water by mistake in the in the kitchen and it's running a child or adult sometimes so you're wondering what's the problem just close the hot water right i can't if you leave the water running so more water is being cooked and regenerated so why don't you close the faucet and cut your losses so first of all i want to mention i never thought of this but why don't we say that it's a problem of muksa if you have a hot water knob what a um lever you don't use it on jabba's so i saw the archer shabbos in perrick or a kofta like that says could be the whole hot water lever is considered much so maybe you're talking about i'll do it uh goofy okay well whatever goofy or maybe taco if you those that have only one level for both hot and cold so it's okay but let's forget about muktsum so he happens in a little bit about the mathias because it's important for this island did you ever wonder why when the fourth person takes a shower in your house they start yelling where's how come the water got cold why the water and the hot water get cold there's very question a person has a hot water tank in the basement that has a certain capacity 75 gallons whatever it is if the water is constantly running so it can't cook the water quick enough before it it goes out in other words we have a hot water tank you take out a little bit hot water cold water goes in and gets cooked almost instantly but when you have the water running so all the hot water is going cold water is going in and it doesn't have any time to re-cook so after a while the water will become from hot very hot to hot to lukewarm and that's why after a while it just can't cook the water properly now assuming you close the hot water that's running what's going to happen the tank is going to be on a freeze this is the 5700 gallon of the tank is going to be on a freeze and it's going to cook much quicker or cook instead of running so many pies give this mirror shabbos says zymphatik and alef zion says it's also clearly closing the hot water that's running could be mamar bishuli and malachi their iso because as it is it wouldn't cook fully it would run and now it's going to cook so just like putting a cover on a pot or closing an oven door is not grumba even though you're not touching the fire that's the mamarubi shoelace closing the hot water running is also the marble shoelace now in fact the the titelies and felice points out some say well if you close the water you at least you cut your losses there won't be more bishop but if you let it run it's going to keep on more and more ambition he says you're right but when you put it on beside whatever happened afterward with the chev altas but closing it is a kumbha say of mamar bishuli so that you don't want and simon even if you want to say it's grammar but he mentioned my covers a mish that we i mentioned earlier and grammar by bishop is awesome with erisa and therefore closing it is probably a malacha bishop verizon this is what these poets can say and again once you hear what makara bisho is all about it's very understandable however and that's the kiddos to me ravozna in in the base lady hey lev has this xylem and he says basically closing the hot water that's running is only a grammar and grammar malcolm have said his mutter ad can diverse now the truth is it's hard to understand that but the mice are covering the path and closing the oven doors so f so what he meant to say was when you close the oven or cover a pot you're touching the actual bishop mice a bishop whether it's the oven or the pot here you're in the third floor in your kitchen you're closing a faucet that's very far removed from the boiler that's going on downstairs but there was this basically i must tell you and most place can hold it's real bishop so basically to close the water when it's running i certainly wouldn't do it that's the charlotte bishop their isa so the best eight is to call a guy and hint them and say the water is running if he closes it then it's fine because you didn't tell them there's no a mural outcome there's no direct hand knot you're not using hot water anyhow and that's the ideal ether if the guy doesn't get the hint you could probably tell him to close it i when he closed it secretia that is for mariby shulay so with that we're going to rely on rambo in the end of rage noon gimmel secretia by a guy is the rise by so to have a guy close the forces says as well that would be an athem now what makes sense is what i always thought that let's say someone just put on the hot water it's running and the water's tucked very hot to close it right away should be mutha why because the water in the tank is still hot you're not being a marbie shoelace this is what i always thought when i learned this week i saw the shabbos bishop in america he says that plumbers have told them and this is that when you use hot water in your kitchen so the hot water rises the cold water that's coming in goes in on the bottom and that's where the fire is so when you close the hot water that's running there's still hot cold water on the bottom of the tank that's going to get cooked quicker so even you close it right away clearly that's that's my might be soothing but the other plastic that we're making the closing right away probably held that once the cold water entered this big tank we could assume it cooked almost instantly who said it's still cold before you close the faucet whatever goes in get the big ambassador gabriele but i think we could say that closing the hot water right away is much less of a shyla and for that reason when there's a little drip of hot water there's also it's hard to be makeup because as long as the water in the tank is still very hot now another important question which we had this nebucha someone didn't know halakhas and he took joe on friday night and he thought it was raw so he said okay i'll wait till tomorrow and he punctures the rub gave a shirt about mama shoelace and he realized his challenge he did a mice bishop he picked off the challenge that was not fully cooked and he put it back we covered it and took out food he had three macabre shoelaces all in one the shallots bit the avid believe it or not maybe the child is awesome says but it's something that there is a sadly ashita that's mako and did it not knowing this but he he did something that's mutual like some days hazal didn't make a cannon because maybe take its mother how at least three places if the child that that was not fully cooked before shabbos was at least kamehameha then according to half a dozen resign him and bishop bishop because it's fully cooked michael decided even though we don't pass it like that you can rely on those days that but the aved it's not awesome so in any one of these type of case a macabre shoelace if there's a sheet that holds its mutton then nothing less but but the avid we could keep it as is it's not awesome the problem is like i once heard this shy unless someone had a big urn a big moisted and it was put up right before this man it was not right but they did it anyhow and someone took out some water not knowing that it was not cooked at all so this it was in michael bender rasoi so for this we have a hidden very quote the you could be make all that the food would be muth but the poison are very clear what does it mean much it means nothing else to eat if you have other food but chunk was was done but this type of uh problem don't eat the child soy means eat there's nothing else to eat or you have organic embarrass not to give hats on so in a case where a person has this type of scenario it might be multiple the other if there's nothing else maybe a big urn and a moisture they need the hot water that might qualify for making sure and last but not least just something to think about when you see how this sugar takes a very interesting twist someone wrote to have moisture this hey like dalit simon i involved that they have this goes back in their israel around 60 years ago we can't do it there's very little meat in the inertia strobe and they made choline from chicken that was one the second hit dish is that because there was so little chicken even by shabbos day when the child was ready they ate the bones also now i know it's not an american mini merry chocolate it was done and people told me that's very delicious but kids um they have children friday night and they're going to put it right back because it was fully cooked but they have devoured the bones are not fully cooked so how could they put that ditch on with the fully cooked challenge but the bones are edible tomorrow not fully cooked tonight so you're not going to say it's bottle but right that's ridiculous if one bean that's not cooked is bissell the bones are not cooked so they wrote moisture what to do so most response was i never heard of eating children friday night so obviously it's not their eyes but his question is is it shark bishop on bones see there's a whole areas but he writes at the end of slaying the zalman is the poison there it's real and he passing it's awesome follow him and there's a beautiful correspondence regardless is mama's legend but the end of the day they both agree that if indeed in that country people typically eat the bones even if you don't eat the bone it's a michael and you can't put it back because this bones is not is only michael bender's site if no one eats it even though it's edible a different country it's not a mysore bishop it's bones but the hop is to have even one bit of it that's not fully cooked it gets built with fire i couldn't talk to you all [Music] shame to have the great exposure sponsorship call higgins your turret 718-851-8651 or email ist at yeshivanan.com as is hashem after member of smith says foreign [Music] hello [Music] i [Music] hey