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Interesting Choshen Mishpat Cases - Rav Chaim Mayer Roth

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Good moy apologize I'm late a few minutes and we're going to begin talking a few shas most of them happened um in the vicinity of Yamiff and hopefully it will be informative. The first question is a little aviet question. There was aid who passed away and left over an albon and in their basement there's a suk [clears throat] the suk is not needed. It was an extra suka sitting in the basement and it's not needed to have a suk to sit in over yum and they it's not necessary for them and al wants to sell off the suk and like this she'll have a few extra dollars and it's time anyway is not doing anything in the basement so she would like to sell it. The issue is that the husband didn't write a tav has a bunch of little kids at home. One is a bit the rest on the bait and an al and she wants to know does she have a right to sell the suk to somebody. So there's a question if she has a right to sell it. If the person who buys it is going to have a sukul doesn't belong to him. It's like a suk if she doesn't have a right to sell it. So the question is can this suka be sold a person who's nifa and he leaves over a wife his wife is not as yish. Even though is not as and therefore if a person passes away but without writing a his will belong to his sons not his daughters. As the Mishna says in ratio that if a person has bon the bonus are not. So you're going to have here a situation that only the I had a very painful story that I'm just going to say a second because the people should know how serious it is once we're talking that the person should write a will told his mother who was an alman you should know that every dollar you spend is mine He knew the he told her you should know he's spending my money. So a person so this story didn't happen like that and we have here a bunch of kids but they're little kids. So it says the best is supposed to be for that's what they're supposed to do. If you have supposed to be if the will try to get this hap to happen it's not an easy thing. It's not so easy. The question is can the mother become the apetropus by default? Can the mother be the apetropus and therefore be able to sell the suk? It says in it says what happens if you have [clears throat] that means the moved into somebody else and they now live in this person's house. says in and he takes care of them, takes care of all their things. says even if the one that they were is and it says in to be an epropus. But if they were some who ate is then that is will become an automatic a default apetropus without a of she will become theropus for those that's what it says in [clears throat] the mother is not from somebody else who they moved into and that is they become an apatropus. So this mother should become theropus over this as they're living in her house that some and therefore they should he she should have a den of anropus and if she has dinner then she could sell the without an issue in that's from the says that a father who the children becomes the default apertropus because of this. So we're good to go. So but not so simple. The tour brings on this in of he brings a of the that says that even though that if the they become that's only if they're the age of nine and above since they themselves could sell and buy the the One could be but [snorts] if and they themselves are below that age then that person will not become their apatropus because theropsis happens because they live there and they're making them the apatropus but if they themselves can't do anything then they can't be so if [snorts] you're going to have below Oh, the age of nine, you're not going to be able to do it. This is the of the Rama. If you look in the [clears throat] there's no remed and that yes one can be the upper even if they're not the age of nine and the pis on the says that that's the of the and [snorts] the koshim that's the in the back also says that the and he says we don't hold like the except that the shak over there does bring the and he brings other that go like the and therefore we have in our whether they could become an apatropus even if they're below the age of nine. Let's assume for a second you could become the zone below the nine. Now the question is can she also be theropus for the one son that's a why that doesn't make that means with people with beards that means doesn't make form says that that means that has no fight to make a a for that means there is no cannot only is only considered a shell and they could take care of the but form they can't make an upper tropus not only does the say like that but there's an whole list of that go like that and others [snorts] that say no you can't Make an upper trumpets for okay that says that rashi theam and the raj behold you can but they can be and the mash wants to say you could go like that. So here again we're going to have now a whole list of whether could be for the trumpus make for theropropus or they can't. So the apatropsis over here is going to have some issues. Whether this woman can act as a petropus and therefore deal with it is going to have a set of issues. But maybe we could find a way for her to sell this whereas we're gonna have to be a little creative. The says it says like this if you find someone lost. Now no one it looks like had a bag with his name on it. So what was stories in the Gabbor's times? Nobody had a bag with their name on it. It [snorts] also buy stories that twillin no like this twill and that twill didn't make a difference much twin he had as long as it was twillin that's what two theor has which are definitely not true today but the says that a person finds an it doesn't have a sim doesn't know who it is or it has a sim but he push it he can't find the person so now he has f sitting in his house What's he going to do with it? It's an So the says here, no you figure out what it's worth. It means there are a vedas that you have to keep for a certain amount of time like a you take care of it for no you don't take care of it you right away figure out what it's worth and what do you do you take the money and what do you do with it we put in B but no you don't do anything you figure out what it's worth and once you know what it's worth go wear it That's what says in the we mean if you find you have to be with you have to be you can't just use it that means were not very mo very God. So therefore you can't just use this but [clears throat] he says there was in the market was so what does it mean the person doesn't need this he's happy to get the money of the twill also the one who lost the big deal he'll take the money and buy so you just have to write Yeah, you could just make a sh what the twill is worth and you put on the twill and you're good. You're not to keep it around cuz big deal twill the money. Try this with somebody that he doesn't have his twin. First of all, sentimental value. It doesn't look like was sentimentally attached to their if they had it was good. The one already say that today if you find you cannot use this hat. Today everyone's makp they want back their don't want they have their with their notur there whatever it should be they want only that good but the one can find this film and he does sh and he puts on the twill and he's good so the sh the million dollar question over here isik what does this mean it's my twill. How do you put on my twill? You could just take my twill. Finish. Imagine I go to your drawer and I take out. Okay. This. Okay. I'll give you the money. I'll take it. We call that go and ask the shalom. But what is that? You you you're paying here, but it's not yours. What is this? You can't just take my things. So here the This seems from that he holds that it's [snorts] a unique why because really people have that you should use that no for some reason it's not enough because the answer is he's going to take away your film forever. He's not planning to give a B. He's using there's no not going to help to to take over this. So he says bes there's no won't help itself but because loses nothing sitting in a box [snorts] and he's going to get the money and he could get anyways back another bad villain. So there we say this right. Okay. So then it's a unique that he learned is going they all learn that this is a for this is that I I answer probably a few times a week. A guy tells me he found a m he found a sh wasn't he doing a doesn't know who it is. So he'll sit in his shelf. So I tell him take out your right in the back that you found this and this gor it was worth $20. Write it down and go take the and use it. the mayor and use it because the guy doesn't need that gabbor. He'll take another gabbor. He has no magic by then will have anor in 20 100 years from now they're not going to want to use if today tap makes money. Who wants this new? So when you're doing a mitzvah, you're holding on to it. He's not getting it now. He has nothing to gain from it. It'll buy for him. Give him money. It'll buy an umbrella. [laughter] He'll have a nice umbrella. And then when he wants to buy a new one, show him the man and use it. And that's how the go that it's true for all. And what's the answer is the vault is what we call that means and I can't I can't sell your thing. If we need it's not going to work. There would be a when the guy buys it needs, you wouldn't be able to sell it to him. It wouldn't work. But you don't need it's not. So if it's you're not considered a this guy's n Why is he n because what's he going to have from here? This guy's going to sit here. He's going to sit here forever. This this this thing by the time he gets this umbrella in 30 years when Mashia love mash come right away. But the guy have an umbrella for a few weeks, a few months, few years. I garnish him. What's going to happen with the umbrella? Let's give him an umbrella. There's no that you could sell this. [snorts] Tell me, does anyone here have extra a spare suka in his garage? If yeah, you know by now if it's been a few years, it already is moldy. It has cobwebs. Who what kind of is the holding on that you can't sell? Nothing. What's going to happen? It's going to get ruined. So could go and sell the and say going to use up the money. >> No, she's not. who say she use the money she sell >> she sell the now use the money so the have to eat >> otherwise she would that's not she would have gotten other money >> she's not she would have >> she would have that's not is that that's there's rise to that you don't say that's not because if not I'm going to go do your other matus you're basically telling me that the mother is going and become that's called. You can't tell me that you're not a nana because it means I'll go give you gifts. There's no such thing. That's not >> it's not a whole difference. No. No. Don't mix. Don't mix in no there's no you're not getting anything here. She got he got they got money. Now the child is what's going to happen with the money. So either they'll have to collect for them and they'll have or she'll buy for them if the anyway's going to have she'll buy for them something that they wouldn't have gotten. If this money is going to be used going to be used in a way that the would want to use it. So that's called >> doesn't need itself. >> What needs one day? No. No. Now they have a it's extra. It was just that they was doing nothing. So the vile this is going to so what's the thing the mother will sell the and she'll give the and be [clears throat] and I want to add one more thing and it's also cuz whoever buys the will use it for a and they'll do a [snorts] >> how many you say >> huh I was always waiting for one second but before and I have arrived that saying the says don't try this. But the says that you're allowed to go into anybody's and eat as long as you know now is not the time that he's eating his meal and is going to throw you out. But you're allowed to go into so because I don't know if it's true today cuz people are very busy with the hygiene and if it's a little dirty, it's a little wet, they're ready, but but in theory there's a concept of you can technically it's a person who passes by a suka and he really wants a drink and he's only drinks water in a suka and He sees he wants to pop into and take a drink of water. I think that people won't be going and take a drink is not about the mother. But the still I'm saying is that where the person who's going to get it from the is there's and that is that is going to eat the just like the twill that who lost the who found it should use this >> should sell it to someone else. [clears throat] Yeah, he's he's buying it. The by the case of the violence will he buys it. He takes it for himself. >> We keep herself here. The mother is taking it from the >> No, the mother's not taking it. Is taking it. The buyer is taking it. That's called that the is buying it. Yan is taking it from the she's just in the middle. The [snorts] one who's taking it from and from the to the mother. I'm saying that even like the could be over here. There is works. So now this asks me is huh? >> Why don't you need it? not going. So now is is the attack on so does the cotton he says no and he says I have a what's his what that Since you could sell it, why do you need that? Why can't you use the TW that the one who lost what is it? Cotton. Yeah. Yeah. people are going this means when was the last time lost I know why have they so they were in their father's >> very a very bigish this is and if the Jewish is right then the shak is his because the shak says in B that the reason why is because it's because of and if the lost it and there's no is that right >> why do you have to be >> I don't know why >> if you have to be everything that someone lost is from a cotton so every time you have a ma and he lost it you shouldn't be able to keep it because maybe dropped [clears throat] it and there's no since it's very heash and he holds that so that today if you find that it's why I tell people better don't pick it up show you don't have but maybe maybe you don't pick it up most don't assume like that you don't have to think it's But right now I'm telling you what says he says this big that there isn't there are other that say very clearly there is even you have enough over here to be able to sell this item. Maybe she's the apatropus. Maybe the mother could sell it out that and even if not we hold that could sell it if it's an enemy of and therefore is I think the mother is allowed to sell it. Are you going to tell me maybe it's not maybe the go the will need this the kids will need this when they grow up. So I'm telling that by the time they grow up this suk will be worthless. Not one of them will want to use it. It's mitzvah for the person to sell it and he will save everybody money. >> Who's the owner? Who's the owner? The person he's the owner of he'll be able to use it. What does it mean if he's the owner? It's not every time you sell something with it's not but is They take it back. Take it back. >> He could sell it right. >> They take it back. >> He can't take it back. >> But but there's no there's no B. You don't need B. Just need not to be a there's no only things. It's after the first two days. It's no longer yours. And you use it. But you only can use something that's yours. As long as you're not a godlin, it's good. >> It's gonna be worthless. You sell it. >> Okay. Maybe. But that's only if it's an So far, it's not. So, you can't say that's because there's no yet. >> What happens if the is >> what? >> WhatsApp. >> He What's the problem? He got the money already. He doesn't need this. Okay. Once he gets the bunny, you don't need it's it's that's it. It's ended the transaction. Okay, those are this is a real story and had the best child by the way. The adult child are very boring. Adult child usually is you have to just fight with people. It's a messy channel just a ber calls me up that he just had to take a haircut for y and another ber gave him the haircut and the haircut the ber gave glitch and uh he messed up a little in the echo son it's not going to be perfect. But [clears throat] fine. So the calls me wants to know does he have to pay the barber for the haircut? So he so I said so I I said to him says wamin the guy didn't give me the haircut I want. So I said yeah but he gave you haircut now. So I have to reach will tell me which one is right. One sad is you don't have to pay him anything. Is I have to pay him full price. The third sad is [clears throat] no. What what was a discounted rate? [snorts] Discounted rate. >> Huh? bring me a what should be. So I would say my first reaction is what do you mean I paid you $20 25 35 I have no idea the prices I didn't go to the barber shop in 30 years my kids give me think over it's done But this $25 $30 to get made $25 to pay this ball for the haircut. No, he got the haircut he wanted. [clears throat] Oh, HE GOT A a faj haircut. It wasn't. It wasn't the haircut that he >> after after he made the mistake >> after he fixed it up. It's also not perfect. >> But you lost >> one sec. Oh, now he's saying now he's saying already my football. Okay. I started my first my first thing is hey zero. You didn't give me what I wanted. I paid for and you gave me a [clears throat] haircut. So So I should pay you for that haircut. I'm not paying for that. It's not what I paid for. Guy goes and he buys the suit and the suit is come out good. I come out good is take it back. It's a and if I can't take it back and it's only and the guy doesn't do the job, it's not good comes now the the no the guy says listen here soon as he made the job that he was malled the haircut he says took um you want me to fix the haircut you'll have to pay him in full. She says, "What do you mean? You you you What do you mean? No, I'm not paying you. Fix the haircut, finish it up, and pay. I'm not going to pay because you didn't give me the full." He says, "Okay, no problem. So, go to somebody else. Go to somebody else. He'll fix it." And charge you for haircut. So, if you if I stop right now, you won't you'll have to get a haircut for somebody. Who's going to give you the haircut? Whoever is will get the job to fix up my boo boo. And what will that guy get paid? He'll get paid $20. $25. Same like everybody else. So now I'm asking me to go to you want me to fix it up now. Okay. But send it. I'm [clears throat] going to charge you for the haircut $25. So why should I not get paid if somebody else is going to get paid to finish this haircut? Huh? You don't trust them? Go to someone else. You have a right. I'm asking, but don't tell me to fix it and finish it and it'll be for free. How are you doing? I'm not either you want to go to someone else, go to someone else and pay you $25 or if you're not, so you might as well come to me and pay me the $25. I should give you a >> haircut. So now comes let's go the other side say no he said like this this guy when he gave him this was a mazik and is that a mazik has to pay either he has to pay somebody has to pay to be maken this kil that he accomplished he did kil he has to fix it So you me say that so fix it up. >> So he says what what you became less worth less as a what happened now? If a guy has a bad haircut you could sell him as a less. What kind of maz? What kind of mazik or mazik? What what kind of mus did he lose? He lost his money. The guy with a haircut when you sell him for an he sold less. So, how you gonna say it's a mazik? What mazik? No, there's no naz. It's not kishmak for you to walk out like that. I got it. But, but it's not. So, the answer is he's correct. It's not. But [snorts] it's bushes. There's such a mazik. One of the five mazik by anam is bes going to get to that. this guy was. So some people take such. Okay. Now someone you took him off all his you made him a triple zero. He he he's a he's done his and that's the reason not a maz of the person is not worth less but he has okay so now let's think about it for a second right now this guy has a maz Well, if I take off his hair and gansson, he's done. But the only thing that can happen now is he could grow back. That's what they say. Between a good haircut and a bad haircut is 30 days. 30 days later, it's all the same. Sean, [clears throat] it's it bes. But what happens if I did the guy haircut? It's still to be fixed and then it won't be bushes. So was I ready now? So if you right now can't walk out on the street unless you mak it and it won't get misten by itself [clears throat] unless it takes 30 for 30 days it won't get mistaken for itself. So right now you were over you did bes. Okay. And now that you did what? So like this best is not dumb. If you ever one day going to learnish you won't have to wait very long to long to learn this. It's in sim except that you won't stop on. You probably start from a different sim. But if you stop from the beginning, it says in but you owe the person the money is not dumb because it's whatever but it's not that you need the basket and the says that is the person they put him until he gives some kind of pizza on the bushes that he caused him. So says, "Okay, you said you so instead you go spend now the time to fix it up and you'll give me free work. $20 and that way you'll be mishacking the bushes and you're paying me for the bushes. How you been paying me for the boses? By fixing it. [clears throat] >> We have to fix that part. Doesn't have to do that right. >> I mean if you stop the haircut in the middle where it stops it will be a problem. It'll be boious. [snorts] So the says what? >> So every haircut halfway through is bes. >> No cuz it's not a mazic. It's part of the operation. [snorts] That's not called a mazic. If you were in a maz, that's called what you were supposed to do. Here you did what you're not supposed to do. Once you do not supposed to do, you have to fix it up to make it. So now, so the says, okay, so so instead of me going through the do instead of the so now comes says what you talking about the is that even though for even if he [clears throat] don't do it even if he do but by the things that is special by all the which is and is that and by there's even more even if you're a but you didn't do especially so is the most of all of them. So this says I didn't do. So what do you mean? What? Let's go back. So tell him, "You want me to fix your haircut? No problem. Pay me full price. I'll fix the haircut. If not, I'm not fixing the haircut." But it's not a gun true. I think that maybe there's a re for him. Yeah. to have to fix the haircut and not because he's but because of says in gim is like on the other end of the not yet but end actually is actually at the end of the sim like it's almost at the ends So, but when the oil wants to learn something that they really want to get confused, they should learn the longest sha I think in there's a [clears throat] shak that goes through all the grommets and g and it's a long sha but I had When I was a I had this I learned with this he read off he read off this whole shak and 20 minutes he read of the whole shak this I know one word what he was saying he read of the whole entire shock in about 20 minutes read through the whole but this sh is a big sh anyways says we all Oh, is if someone does a pot, this is very common. People do grommets every day and they're but good. This says between me and the I'll deal with it. Don't tell me what to do. There's many by this case. He wrote the star and he wrote [clears throat] the guy is owed 200 and he by mistake wrote 100. Ever happened to you? Your attorney wrote the wrong amount. Never happened yet. Okay. I've read as counter attorneys that say things. No. What happens? You sue them. Sue them for malpractice. Gro what happened you don't have a now to this if wouldn't lie the would be say is lie now it's only a he's potent they don't like it but he's potent now I gives him bad advice not every bad advice some are You have to know the rules. Says a whole bunch of cases and he ends puts him in if he could fix it up and he doesn't fix it up. Peasant puts him in until he fixes it up. That means to be put not every could be a bal and put that that's very humbling you have to and you lose and you can't figure out what shot this president fell asleep this guy not every turns out looph how you have to go through all the technicalities of so if this guy is a gr he's but he's a bad guy he did something he shouldn't do so We tell him like this and that's why you're not but we're going to put you into because you have an opportunity to take the away by doing to take it away. If you don't we're going to put you into So I want to tie in there. You give this guy a haircut and you caused them You're pot this is we're going to put you have to go fix up this haircut to take away the and since you have such a you can't charge money and I want to say that he's and you don't have to pay him anything. This guy gets a haircut and it's for free on the house. Why? The first haircut that he gave him, he didn't do to fix up for him to do to be he made the guy and unless he's we put him into you have to fix it up. So since you have to fix it up, you don't can't charge him. I want to say that he's from paying him for the haircut. Okay. >> It's a not I didn't do of course I did not be a person. I am potter. You don't have to pay for everything. There's a lot of it's it's like a Are you allowed to be on? No. But if you do it, so the same thing as a >> Why does it have to say but >> it doesn't say a lot of things. That's why people write chas, right? Why do they know to be the righteous of everything he says if he could learn it from here? [clears throat] I thought that if someone is and he did and there's a way for him to fix it. Most bushes are not fixable. This is a unique case. I found a case that nobody in thought about. All bushes in can't fix. There's [clears throat] none. You're there's nothing to do about it. You're here that the guy in the middle of a haircut. He was and I so that that's why it's unique. It's that why they don't say it because it's a very unique case. Okay. [clears throat] >> The other parts that the work >> if again right now he has to finish the thing that he should look presentable. If that's part of it, I would think that is okay. I want to end with one because I'm running late. I see the z the z is not kind to me. It's moving very quickly. I wanted I once heard I'm named after the he once said that my biggest is the clock. I asked him many times to stop and he doesn't stop for anything. Keeps moving. So let's deal with one more question and let's see what the has to say. This story didn't happen. This I made up but it happens every year such questions but here's I I made it up and I because it hit me a certain thing because of time I thought I was thinking about it this year because of that shi this year there was no y [clears throat] for only so turned to his friend and he told him I would like the shake with said he has and the other guy has you know he needs to get all seven Morocco and Yand say he needs so he gives them to and he shockles and states He shuckled as I till the as fell out of his hand and the pitum snapped snapped. We said now that the pumm snapped the other guy tells him okay this asset costed $350. So the sh is does have to pay him $350 for this. >> What's the options? Does he have to pay him maybe zero? They have to pay him $250. Does he have to pay him uh $50, $150? Why does he have to pay him now? Yeah. Pay him. No, pay him. Why? What goes on now? What happens now with this ic? So let's begin. I don't think I ever said this and I said other years about different things. This there's a mint a famous says that if somebody's mazic someone's estric is that he doesn't have to pay him the amount that cost this. He could pay him the amount for the cheapest that exists in the market. That's caution. bosses. That's why we would never think of this. says that someone stole someone's and he had a that's st he had an animal and this guy stole his comb and it's no longer here and now he has to pay. So the says over there that he could give him the any why. So he says big deal you had to be m. So he says he bought himself as a You don't have to you don't have to give him to pay. >> Good. Good. >> And you really have to pay. >> So double you have to pay him the >> month. It's not >> I understand. But what are you losing? He's saying is >> $350. You're not have to pay him. >> Okay. ask on him and others all asked what what is so the answer you have to be okay is a commodity it's worth $350 go to the market you can sell for $350 so and you're right it's a mitzvah also but it's worth $350 and it's yours So why don't you have to go $350 what it's worth? So why don't you have to pay the guy $350? So I'll very much but does he have to say where it's not sellable and has to do the mitzvah with it. Okay, maybe it could be but it's very but in middle of the mint is probably correct. No, >> a middle of sus. What's a sukus? What's a acid work in the mo? I don't know if you could buy one, but if you could uh more than $25, $50, you're not going to pay. So, who cares that you paid for $350 last week? value of a of it's worth only $50. The mitzvah $50 does the job. You could be you could do the mitzvah with $50. [snorts] It's not going to be the nicest. Okay. Ask him not be nice. So here everyone will agree to the you don't have to pay more than $50. >> Maybe $10 cheaper. >> Yeah. Whatever it is. No, but if there's still a mark, there is no market. I don't think there exists a market forum in the middle of there's no such thing. Doesn't exist. There's a few mo they have and if someone comes to them they try to see they look at his eyes to see how much to get from him and [laughter] that's they take I mean there's no mark in the middle of so >> what this year I don't see that he has to pay $350 more than how much is today worth it doesn't have to pay I mean >> you have to use it >> what >> you have to use out of it >> what's the difference is is it what's it worth today >> no what's what he had for me it has only to do if I use my car so I can't sell it for depends what the price is whatever it's worth it's worth now I'm saying I have sad he should be parting guns get income maybe he's parting guns so why why is he parting guns I'm telling you there's no market for doesn't exist says I have to get who said you have to get a pit that breaks off you need get another so let's open up and see was that of a pit falls over. So it depends if there's left beh Good. Where you don't make a pit and broke off partly? No. No. It's only said you could make it without a problem. It's only but really most told it's only this guy already did he's good to go for not a problem comes a bunch of say today's is part of the answer of that he says kimi well you going to be I didn't who said you have go use you want to Okay. >> Not a problem. >> What is not a problem anyways? Not a problem. Even if you hold it, it's not a problem. It'll be a problem. But he still didn't shake. I what what so he tells him have a good day. It was nice knowing you. I'm not thinking. Ah, you're going to have to come to shoe with bushes and with your [clears throat] [laughter] >> So, so bottom line is the guy says I I know you anything. You could you could you could you could keep your aster. It's nice here. Give it back. Thank you. It was a pleasure. I met Hashem. Next year I'll ask you again for the week. [laughter] Yeah. You want to get I'm finished. I'm to do anything. And I'm going to tell I'm going to tell everybody over here that is he can't even that he's to pay $350. You ready? I want to ask a question. How was aid? How is this with the other person's on there's a dinner of not but since [snorts] how you when you take someone else's so the answer is because it's a it's not And if your friend is an amorit, you have to tell him, make sure you're giving it to me cuz if not, [cough] so [clears throat] he gave it to him. Oh, so it's so now if the pit breaks off, I don't have to pay. Oh, the answer is no. It's not a regular mat. It's always a What do you mean? I never made up with you. says that if you don't say anything whenever you give a default is it's a okay [clears throat] yeah why is still need of somebody Now the shy now that the pit fell off is it called he gave it back [clears throat] that if something broke in the it's not called you gave it back. If it's called you didn't give a break back give it back. So now you have a broccol. Okay, you're done. You never So you're done. [clears throat] So now the guy's cooked. So he says, "Yeah, no, I'll pay him." No, no, doesn't help to pay him. You got to give him back. comes to Mishn says this is that you can't pay him and you just could give back that's only if you say but whenever brings that if you give him back the money then is that even if you give him back the money. It's considered that you gave a back. >> One second. >> Second. One second. You didn't let me finish. You're taking away from me the podium. You know, let the only thing you not let it do is gumb from me the podium. Everything else I found after. So again the went and he made him now the pit and now he says okay but if I don't pay him I'm going to have him if I pay him then it's considered I got it back and if I didn't pay him then it's considered that I have a didn't give back and have a >> little pressure I gave No no no no want to give it back doesn't mean you have to give it back means kasha you have to give me back the thing the way it is otherwise not called to give it back cuz I don't want back a without a pim I want with a pit I don't want kasha I want my pim give it back is good if you don't give it back it's not good now what happens if it breaks off and I give it back so again if I give back the money comes in the give back the money and It's consider so I want to say that to pay back so shouldn't have that means it's not so now the question is what's what's the of this what's the of this I think that the is like this if I say I'm showing clear I have I'm not I'm not asking back for the money. I want back this. It is what it is. If I don't say it, as long as you give it back in a way that I could be back where I was before, I'm okay. Oh, but to say that you're going to give it back to me and you're going to give me a $50 I should go buy a rig. No, no. that called that I wanted I mean it's not a it's a in of people when they say I'm what they want back so I have a to say if I spent $350 on this I want back either my answering or I want back the money I paid for it >> good I'll I'll be able to use it at least to to buy myself to buy myself good chewing gum but don't take away my and then give me 50,000 myster that's good if I need a rig I want back my ri and or the moy of I'm I'm not 100% sure I'm I'm right maybe one can argue that as long as I give it back hey the amount of money I could buy at least this same is also enough and now maybe I could get such for 100 it's enough but I have to say you have to give me back in time and otherwise it's not cool to give it back and since you have to go out of the because if not you're going to end up of you have to give it back. So he so this asked me who said I made I made a spend I made a mistake didn't do didn't do ask him so so if if will he ask a to pay him back the will tell him yes so he says what do you mean I didn't I was for them I have to pay money. So I found I'm telling you I found forski has the most interesting things you'll ever see. He has a shy was standing on the roof [clears throat] and he had a pre in his hand, a apple and he made a and as soon as he finished the apple fell down and it fell off the roof onto the floor. Now, if this yid goes off the roof and it goes onto the floor, it'll be a shin and it'll be a shin. His bra will no longer work for the apple. So, it'll be a So, he sees another year down on the bottom and makes she give him the apple. He tells him and say [clears throat] Muslim says to pay to go out of [cough] [clears throat] that's and he says why even is and is the same like and he says and to give out to spend. So if not to lose this, it's going to be to pay for his so they shouldn't have is only if the guy's charging. He's not charging. He's only charging till 350. He says, "If you give me back my 350, I'm good. I won't I won't I won't ask for more. He he he mean he made a oh he's saying that it's broccoli my case wasn't such a good case it has to be this is I think that in such a case you're going to have I just want to end with a thought we spent took us and was masked a nice couple of pales of water a lot of a lot of rain we had I don't know about you but I think that most of us at least three sudas were able to in the suk the fourth suda was challenging some less some more for some reason People are only focused on the fact that the ones that they weren't in the who knows he's but what about the ones that showed him that like there was a stop now they got into those we forget about tell us that if they show they throw it's like when is that going on only the first night doesn't have time I I want to give I believe it's going on any time in the middle of go the first night it's not a problem why anyway sitting in the have to sit in the suka the first night there are more they have to sit in the suka the first night anyway so why is that doesn't want he wants it he says that time show me how much you mean Come into the rain. You got to show more. So now I'm out of the and you tell me what you don't like. You do like it. I'm there. I'm not there. You see you see you let me come. I let say the terrets but but the mus that they also is m that nobody thought about. [snorts] That's what we should be thinking about. What happened the bosam says in between all the drops I'm letting you into I want you to come into the suka and more than that I have to say even for myself I'm not always every minute in the suka usually when I learn it's hard for me in the suka it's easier for me I like to write on my computer it's easier for me in my room yesterday I went into the I said I p I have withdrawal symptoms they didn't let me sit in the suka they push it let every minute when it's a good F no matter the weather it's this every second every time you have a chance go in and say thank you for letting me into the suka thank you thank you for letting me into the suka I want to tell you I'm ending with this a story I say it over but I'm so I could say it over 10 times I still enjoy it again once went to visit a yu was sitting in the hospital was laying in the with him and he spoke to him and he was and he spent some time with him and middle I have to leave because the started crying said why I could go to I'm never stuck here in a hospital bed so went to he gave a clap on said, "When you come to in the morning, you say, do you realize what that means?" Not you did a favor that you woke up for the did you a favor and he let you into the he let you come. Do you remember that co they didn't let us into the rear view mirror from a few years should stay there they came into the they let you into I will go sit in the I'm going to do the mitzvah when we have that attitude then the one who says ah this is the sh that I want the we should be able to sit Suka's