Hot Plate, Warming Drawer Etc. On Shabbos - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

hey [Music] eight five one eight six five one or email isp at yeshiva.com a while ago someone asked me about taking food from the refrigerator and on job was putting it into a warming drawer at the time i wasn't familiar with the warming drawer we'll soon see the details but i'm very thankful because this really touches upon many shadows that are negated to all of us whether you have a woman draw or not and i'll mention a few of them sometimes people want to put food from the refrigerator onto the side of the black to warm it take out the chill people want to put the color onto the black to warm the color somebody else but using a stir no one shabbos we'll see what that is but the emphasis as we'll see it's a number of other shadows that are really regaia to the yiddish home in many different ways and as aldera as we always try to clarify one year side which i think today is a basic insight of this official and then we'll have enough information besides of course the warming job and all the other shiners as well i think the cloud wants to know what the story is told someone asked us out there of about moving the charm part closer to the fire to get warm up so he responded and raised the khaleen as mushfieldnish with fire that's step number one don't play with fire and the emphasis when you learn it's all over this cloud the ron and shabaz that few wonders why there are so many gazers through our bottom regarding um bishop noon gimbal rashford and zayn shinjuk all those big simone are all gazers there abana and iran says because it's craving love only they is a torah a person could move the challenge closer to the fire what's wrong what do you mean what's wrong the charm is not fully cooked was not cooked yet it's visual derisi with fire and it's easy to sometimes be over there realizing and it's official there isa so that's why as we'll see we have to know what we're doing before we do it but then again ironic shabbos is a mitzvah so one thing we see clearly if you have food that is fully cooked chicken coogle and there's no problem with bishop it ain't bisho bishop but we all know to take that cold chicken and put it on to the black on shabbos is awesome now why is it outside there's no bishop so this is what's known as basically it's not bishop because ambitious bishop but what you're doing is a mice official granted this food is fully cooked so it's mutter but what's going to be the food that's not fully cooked or a liquid that cooled off so basically even though it's almost on shabbos of mexico it looks like cooking then we have another category and that's called hazor now of course when you learn torah hazard is a mitzvah but this is an issue what's the what's the sugiya so the common cases arabs on nail shabbas some people want to have a little bit shell on friday night so they want to take off the challenge and put it back now the child is still piping hot what's when we're putting it back onto the block there's no bishop true but this is what's called khazara on shabbos which is also us mexican because basically you're taking food and putting it onto onto the fire that's the concept of bishop now rather this case is muta but that too closely resembles a real mice a bishop so we see what's called as what in allah as messina to putting food on the fire on shabbos which really should be muta but it's also ultimate and returning food hazara is also now both of them also the second reason and that should be you might make the fire bigger but the primary reason in both is but what's probably the biggest kiddish and that is what we all do and perhaps you don't realize that we even have little shabbos on arab shabbos how could that be very simple we put food on the on the fire but not on the fire directly even arab shops we have a blip why do we need a black why can i put a challenge on the fire arab shabbos there's no shabbos arab shabbos so this is the big sugiyah of shahia which basically means that a person might take food that that basically he might make the fire bigger right now it's arab shabbos but on shabbos comes he might make the fire bigger so even arab shabbos he has to be realized misbehaving with fire and therefore he puts a black and once he has a bluff that's a built-in reminder not to play with the fire and that avoids the issue so we have three issues reminding us we don't play with fire we have what's called nasino putting food on the fire on shabbos which really should be now let's go slow we know that sometimes we do put back food on the fire on shabbos those that take off the challenge scoops them out they put it back what about the isab khazara so this we spoke about in the past but we needed let's just review very quickly there's a few preconditions that it's muta to put food back onto the black hanchabus and i remember heard this many years ago when i first learned all you have to remember is that the aloe vera is actually based those five letters base gimbals are the five conditions that permit re returning food to the fire on shabbos bays you have to have a black okay there's no block you can't put it back on jabba's gimbal it has the food has to be fully cooked get caught okay it's bilingual you take it off and you want to put it back now you took it off put it in the fridge oh i want to put it back no good it has to be daiquiri hey the diy has to be still in your hand that's hunt hand and vag it has to be varum it has to be warm because if you have a chong that cooled off and now it's cool now it's yes bisho bishop so if you have a base gimbal dollar hey evolve you could put back the food on to the black even on shabbos and a perfect example is you took up challenge on friday night and served some and you want to put it back so preconditions hunt and farm and you're good to go now on earth shoppers you want to keep food on the fire so you wonder what's wrong with building this with fire so you have to have a black why shami yakata you might stir the fire now here the question is lame at times of the gemara they kept food on a fire and the fire diminished and fluctuates so it started to get smaller it might go out it won't do its job so then there was a you would stoke the the coals the wood that involves tuition number one making the fire bigger is available also making a fire bigger to cook quicker is bishop so in the times of the gemara that they use a real fireplace it makes sense because the fire got smaller and you want to reignite it and make it bigger but i'm using a stove it doesn't get it doesn't fluctuate it maintains the same steady fire flame why do you need a black the answer is very simple you might adjust the knob you might make it from low to high that's also making the fire bigger is bishop there isa afar so therefore we have a bleph to try to simulate what they had the black in those days now the embassies are moisture many poisons say the real bluff should be put on the makka maha we have a black on the fire like they did they put the they sprinkle sand onto the fire but it's better to also cover the knobs because that's so that's why many people have a bluff that covers the flame and it bends over and also covers the knob fine so we have three isure durable now let's apply it to the new child that we'll discuss today someone wants to use a warming drawer now let me explain a little bit about them of them it seems a warming drawer is very simple typically most of them are a regular drawer it looks in the kitchen it looks like a different regular drawer it is a drawer that slides out you can put food in and the warming drawer is basically designed to keep warm typically it ranges from 120 120 degrees to the maximum is 240 maybe 250 but not more the mathias as we'll soon see is you can't cook in a woman drug i mean you could leave it there many many hours and they'll get cooked but the warming drawer that reached the temperature approximately from the high from 220 to 40 but not higher than that it doesn't cook unless you keep it many hours why because it's not a yiddish product but many didn't prefer it on shabbos because you could warm all the food before shabbos put it in the warm enjoy you don't have to keep the gas range on the kitchen doesn't it's not so hot and because it's a small box it maintains the heat much longer and you could also have a remote a shabbos mode that it shuts off after a while you could put all the food in and it keeps it very hot but the question is how are you putting all the food in arab shabbos where's your black you have to have a black pair of shadows we have a black on the gas why is the woman's jaw different so the truth is say wait a minute i have a black because i don't see the fire the fire is covered i mean the heating element is covered but then it right when do you need a blast on a stove top i see the fire in the times of ghazal when they had a fire maybe the fact that the heating element is covered maybe that's the bleph but that's not true because first of all we know we use a black by a hot by a crack pot crack but also the heating element is covered no no applying to sold that there's an exposed heating element that's dangerous ah it's a good timer the the heating element is covered but that doesn't make sense because it's not a din if you cover the heating element you're okay the point of a black a group of katuma is you made a covering you made a heka during the week when you use the fireplace use it as it is arab shadows you have to admit you have to put a cover on it sprinkle sand to show that i'm not going to be makate i made a haircut but if that's the way the appliance is used it's always covered where's the hacker in other words you have to make a hacker not that this they're covering and this as early as the marielle one of the big deals mr buren gimbals he'd cut and pay aleph quotes it that in my real time they started having a more modern way of cook of cooking they had a box a metal box the fire was inside and they kept food on top of the backs so somebody asked my real do you have to have a bluff because the fire was covered by the box so marielle says yeah that's the way you cook it's not a hacker it's a covering not a heck you need a hacker and this is why the price can say that it's not enough that the heating element is covered you have to make a additional cover like a black to give it a din of gruffakutuma that's why those that use a crackpot will put a heavy-duty aluminum foil as the left oh that's a hacker that i put i know it's there and that's that's functional the heart sweet and simmering cuffline with verb says that the fact that the heating element is covered is not enough of a bluff you have to have you have to put down a black so now the sheila is where's the black on a warming drawer so i'll tell you two possible spheres did you ever wonder many eden use a iron on shabbos did you ever see a urn that has a black on it tears it all well you can't do it so that's not an excuse so how do we use an urnan job is i there's no black so i'll tell you one simple sweater why do you need a black i the food is cooked the terrace is shemi attacker now let's assume you have a urn that this is not it's non-adjustable it's not high low medium you put it on and it boils you can't raise the temperature or lower the temperature so if it's not adjustable there's no shamyakata the times of ghazal the fire fluctuated hourglass range you could raise the temperature lower it that's shamiyakata but if you have a urn that is non-adjustable so why you need a bluff and indeed that's true and that's why the price can seem to say clearly that if you have a a heating out a a crack anything actually any heating element any appliance that is not adjustable there's no reason for a black the heart suite and sim and kuflam with verb discusses this shiela and he brings a beautiful raya because they're kev and the beer lock and shin has discussed keeping food in the sun from heir of shabbos now you're a lot of cook in the sun ancho you can you keep food before shabbos in total is what the sun heated and vegan the question is where's the black how can we keep food there it says what are you planning on doing if you want to be makata climb on a ladder and stir the sun there's no shame by the sun if there's no there's no reason for reason for says the hearts me any non-adjustable appliance doesn't need a black because it's not just a factor the question is some urns do have an adjustable mode and some have a reboil button that maybe you will press on javas to make it hot so with this we have another major usaid in our suggest and raised in gimbal says this yes that when do you need a black perch only food that is basically raw and inedible once the food reached the the minimal temperature of soy which we have to assume is a third of half cooked once it's a half cooked and it's edible as it is you don't need to bless what's the logic very simple why are you so concerned to have a blessing he's nervous it's not going to be ready it's going to be it's me raw but once the food was at least half cooked arab shabbos you're not gonna have to that panic it's edible as it is so even though the first she told it has to be in his bachelor called sarcoid but the ointment says once it's cooked halfway you don't need a black now the truth is we are mahmoud and we put up left by all foods but the din you could be making a person let's say comes before shabbos to a place he has no black and he's panicking what do i do no problem you can put the fire on as long as the food is cooked halfway you don't need a black now make sure no one sees because you know you don't both marry for children well what kind of eat is he where's his blood but it didn't if it's cooked halfway you don't need a black now where is this much more nigeria because we all use the left this is going to be nigeria by an urn or a crackpot or any appliance that we don't have a black we can't make a black as long as the food is cooked at least halfway we'll rely on the sheet that you don't need to blend so whether we know this or not people keep food in the oven on shabbos for mayor of shabbos of course where's your black in the oven parrot says if as long as the food is cooked at least halfway you could rely on the ichida din that you don't need to bless so this is why there's no doubt about it keeping food in a warming drawer on arab shabbos you don't need a black why because the food is fully cooked don't forget you can't put half cooked food in the water it will not cook it so if you put the food in before shabbat that's fully cooked it's certainly halfway cooked and therefore me ichida din you don't need a black now blemish there are some ice cream and that's the attribute if it's not adjustable it's adjustable is awesome they made a light plug but again the price can say there's a good swirl to say that you don't need a black because it's not adjustable okay let's go to the next question someone has a warming drawer he took out a piece of coogle for friday night and he wants to put it back for shabbos day he took it out and he wants to put it back into the warming drawer is that any problem so let's go through our checklist base gimbal dal well guess what we failed on the first one because there's no bluff in the woman's room it's all good but where's your bluff so how could you put the food back into the warming drawer on shabbos there's no bleph so attackers some people put a black one before shabbos and very good but let's say you don't have a black or you didn't put a black i'm going to tell you the aswara that really is the site of today's share is the uniqueness of a warming drawer and makes it so challenging and so fascinating in aloha because unlike a crock-pot or even a slow cooker the design of a warming drawer is to keep warm that's the label that's identification it's not made to cook food so let me ask you a simple question let's say a person puts back a piece of hot kugel into the warming jewel without a black is it magikamavaso nobody cooks in a warming drawer again it's it's very unusual to have this mate but let me explain the typical warming drawer ranges from 120 i guess and why make it 120. the fancy people like to keep the plates hot so they put it into 120 keeps plates out okay but typically it goes to get 120 some of them a are 190 shabbos mode does not exceed 190 but they go up to officially 220 but it really it's 240 and maybe even 250. but let me see us to put raw food into a warming drawer it's going to take many many hours to cook now you're going to ask me i don't understand yeah let this boy is 175 some say even 110 but 175 for sure so how could it be it's not messing with ashley's 175 there's what's the scientist 175 could cook but it's not gonna it's gonna cook to take many hours so basically when you see a warming drawer is the whole warming drawer male sigma vasel or it's one big but it's not a mexican of so this is the challenge of a warming drawer it exceeds the temperatures of yacht sodas but it's just not mexican bavarsil best of beer let me be smack let's see a person decides to be a london he wants to use his oven on chapez he wants to put it back and take out food but he wants to have a free a free reign so he has he'll set the oven at 180. and i'll take it out put it back that's a problem because an oven is one big masochist i mean what else do you cook but the oven but the warming drawer no sensible person uses it to cook it can be 10 hours i don't know how many hours i was to hold between seven eight and ten hours but it's just not done even a hot plate will soon see some of them reach a temperature of 900 degrees oh that's a mavasco so this is the challenge the choira it should even be motta listen to this to take a cold piece of kula from the refrigerator and put it into the warming drawer why not again the kugel was fully cooked ain't bisholaka unlike an oven unlike a hot plate that could cook some of them at least unlike a slow cooker that cooks so here basically it is not that it is not mexican but it's even more than that because here we have a riot to that the choir to the following let's say a person once ha once that hot crocodile on shabbos unexpected guests came does have enough coco is there any way to to warm rewarm to a boiling point a piece of cold chicken or cold coogle that's fully cooked and is not moist so there are two viable options both of them for both of them we probably all do at different times take the kuggle that's that's your dry and put it on top of a challenge that's the symbol and if you have a nice flame under the challan pat that piece of cookie will get piping hot why is that mutton terraces up to rajva because no one cooks putting on top of a challenge i is getting warm so what do you care ain't bishop like a bishop the only problem is that's not the best bishop uh-huh so we see that you could warm food the only problem is if it's mel sikkim abasha right second raya and assuming this tender is my black so the ms i've done this and it works you could take a piece of cold food and put it adjacent to the black on the side of the left not on top of the left on the side of the block now the mathias is if the fire is right there and don't forget the black is sitting on the flame it's diverting the flame to go outward that food could definitely get hot and summons get burned if you have a big enough flame it just it's again it's it's channeling the the flame outwards that is perfectly obvious says this very case and a dry food you'll have to warm it up mr brewer why because it's not nerikam of asha so we have two cases that you could warm food on shabbos because his aim bishop well guess what in our 21st century there's a new member to the club another case that is muted to warm at night with arsenal and what is that courage might be swell warming draw since no one cooks in it families now unfortunately there is no earlier pricing that i could point to because they didn't have it in the earlier poi skin but what i did see that maisha has achievements if gotten hey did not see a woman during his lifetime but he was aware of a what's called a hot plate and the moisture basically says that if it's if the heat the heat of the hot plate cannot cook it just keeps warm and again there are different types many especially the sta the platter of the shabbos platter are designed to keep wall and not but not cook they reach temperature maybe 300 degrees i'm not talking about all of that but those that cannot cook some rice if it can't cook and it's a non-adjustable model so what's your problem his only problem was chambia because he's high lower medium but the point is that on a hot plate that only keeps warm and cannot cook there's no problem on who seem to feel that is even muta to take from the refrigerator and put it onto a hot plate that only warms and doesn't cook because it's not mercury kimbap and he says but i'm a little concerned because it looks like you are warming it on java so he wasn't so certain about taking from the fridge and putting it onto the hot plate but we definitely see a mathias that if it's not merci kimbasho because no one cooks on it why do you put it in the refrigerator on to the into the warming drum and there's another svara which applies to a platter and that's interesting the marshag who lived 100 plus years ago cinnamon was asked in his times a new way of keeping food warm and the marshal said a novel slaughter that this new method is only made to to keep things warm on shabbos it's not used during the week so maybe that alone is the heka it's it's a i guess it's like it was the old-time shabbos mode but this design was used only on chavez so dr marshall and you don't you don't cook it during the week it's not mexican and he even he has an analogy like you're allowed to learn perrick my man but leaking because you have a built in reminder huh don't be makata so he wants to say maybe something it's only used on chavez there's no problem of anything plot to show disgusting and he said originally i was not makel but people use it maybe you know why it's mutual because it's a plot to show shabbos and it's not messed up because everybody knows only for shabbos okay now this smara is an interesting tradition but it only works for a plot to show shabbos that's made for shabbos the warming drawers is not made for you not made by eden it's a grayish you know item which is convenient to keep things warm but at least we have the other svara that a a warming drawer is now melted so basically if the food is fully cooked it's not a liquid with yes bishop bishop it's a sour ambition to take food from the refrigerator and put it into the warming drawer on shabbos it's not mexican the only issue we have is that because it has adjustable modes this high low and medium where moisture was makeled by a hot plate was only when it's non-adjustable so the eight is put aluminum of heavy-duty aluminum foil on the on the grill on the floor of it and you want to be extra from cover the knobs as well once you make the appropriate groove of victuma you can't go wrong now la maison i saw it in this beautiful countries that has discusses the sugiya why so basically what this is based on you say that warming that you say as i mentioned earlier is that a person by b comes to tuition stoking a fire is a vote and once you make the fire bigger it's bishop the rice on the food but even if a person would rastu and raise the temperature on a woman during shabbos he's not going to cook the food the food is fully cooked there's no bishop i raise the temperature from low to high so the truth is that's not at the riser because making from 190 to 220 or 250 what moloch of their ice is it adding extra current i'm not getting into the details why that's not otherwise the only thing is if you mattress if you hook or heat a piece of metal is glowingly hot that's the issa bhavar the matrias is that these hot plates that reach a temperature maximum of 250 it never gets glowing hot it has to be a few hundred degrees that needs a glowing hot metal the methi is it never gets glowingly hot so if that's the case it never involves the ice in that same countries ahmed raised your aleph they quote rafael de marzillo who has a whole difference for a while there's no shamiyah because you might come to cook food the warming drawer never ever cooks food so you want to make an egg and who said you're authorized to make an egg in xavier so they were even smaller than no shamiyakata by a warming drawer but certainly if a person has a warming with a black on it he can't go wrong there's no shem yakat there's there's no problem of mexican bavarso if it can't cook it's just incapable of cooking again if you leave it ten hours it might cook but basically it is not designed to cook however in that same country there's a tool from the media of get so berkowitz who has a problem first of all his problem is it is adjustable i guess he didn't assume that you make it look what's the ramifications of it but once you can adjust it that's a problem and his main problem which is really the uniqueness of this warming draw is that the end of the day it reaches a temperature of 250 degrees and that is way beyond yeah it's another point so why don't we say that that would be a problem of merzik there's a problem of because it has more knobs and la maison you're going to warm it the ravos is also quoted as saying that and a woman joins me which really it is i mean you put it in for ease you want to warn it so basically again this is the uniqueness you could say well wait one second it's not melting with you can't cook in it but then again it's able it has the temperature way beyond that the yacht is right and it's designed to warm it's unlike on top of a charm pad that's not made to warm things that's a very uh you know shampistic way of doing it but you don't buy a charm pot to cook on top of it on the side of the black is not made to warm but this warming drawer you spend a nice few dollars to buy a appliance that warms food on shabbos so again you could hear both sweaters if you want to see you know this versa that he brings it right from the rav or that countries but at the end of the day even the mahmeen would say that if you have a black and that covers the issue of mexican bavarsil it should be motto so basically the issue here is can you take food from a food from the refrigerator that's fully cooked and put in the chatrilla into the warming draw on shabbos the swirl and there's no reason to ask them so let it happen it has all the specifications of a h because it is yaksa let this boy and you're putting it from the fridge into the warming drawer it's mexican again in a certain sense it's maybe worse than on top of the challan path or on the side of the black because that's not the derek of but again it's only with the precondition that it has to be dry food if you take charlotte in the refrigerator that's cold so then there's yes bishop bishop by the liquid rafstrasses has a short tube in that country and he says that he's making to put from the fridge into the warming drawer but that that countries in is he discussed the number of foods that have a little bit liquid and a lot of salad or a mixture so you have to eat like a strasser rice before you make them you have to learn with you yourself and your paneer buyers of course that's his bachelor called circle now la maison i want to make a point before we move on to the next group of questions the warming draw have some unavoidable problems some some of them some have it's all sort of like a convection mode that there's always a fan that's circulating the warm air to keep the the heat uniform when you open that type of warming drawer the fan goes off that's that's it push it when you close it the fan goes on so forget about the mexican avalanche you're putting off and on a fan so that of course we don't use there's some warming drugs that have a light in it that goes on and off so you know that's obvious like a refrigerator you know the more complicated in its design then we'll complicate your kashabas so we're talking about a simple one that there's no fan there's no light but there's another issue that you have to deal with and that is opening an oven somewhat concerned that if you open an oven on shabbos you might put on the heating element so why isn't warming drawer any different than opening an oven maybe when you open the drawer the heating element is off and you open the drawer and because of the sudden induction of cold air you're putting on the heating element so taka some say that's why they don't like to use it maybe you're going to put it on the machine the material would say first of all it's only a soft expression and also but there's a fundamental difference between opening an oven and opening a warming drawer on oven you set let's say at 350 400 so the contrast from room temperature to 70 degrees and the temperature is supposed to maintain is pretty drastic 70 to 350 400 but a warming draw that's again it can range from from 195 you'll see a shabbos mode does not exceed 195 105 to 250 so it's not such a speculation that even and coldly entering will make a change another big swara which i think is a very reasonable swara if you open an oven and you put on the heating element that's a moloka of the iso what what malachi their isa you're putting on the heating element the coil that's up that's an eight that's a mattress that gets glowing hot that's the rice in the warming drawers you're in your you're putting on this actually it's not a bar but something similar to a bar that never gets red hot so it's this is the rabona which is very humble but it's not a potential there is some so basically those that are mate would say if you want to open it so first we'll hope that it's only a self-explanation but don't keep it open too long you know some people like to open it and then and you know and then serve from it it's not gonna die open it take out the food and close it then you could open up put it back but not to keep it open too long that might be sort of ape secretion another interesting question which again if you don't know them at sea is it might sound strange but it's very it's obvious many if not most warming drawers have the heating element on the bottom of the drawer itself in other words typically the drawer has a heating element in the bottom of it and you open the drawer and the drawer with the food and the helmet comes out you push it back and that's where you use it some older models have the heating element in the base of it but the drawer is separate and the bed and the base has the heating element under it so the question is if the drawer has no heating elements he could open and close it to us no problem but let's say you have one that has the heating element in the drawer itself [Applause] so you're moving books on java you open it you're closing it you're moving the heating element so that sounds intimidating but it's not so problematic because even if the the part of the drawer is the muk serve but there's also a food in the drawer so it's a bust of hat denise i you you'll say but if i took out all the food how could i close the drawer so that someone told me his rough told him you're allowed to open the door you can't close it i said what do you do i'll shop keep it open because no no we set it to go off at a certain time then we open it but we don't close it i said well well that's not a problem i guess he didn't have the whole story the truth is that if you hold that it's mukta and it's empty then you can't close it but it's more likely to say that this drawer has two functions a base for the fire and also it's a drawer for food so it could be would looking like a clicheter and also for the fire but it's not made only for the fire it's made for the food also so that therefore the mice some people could like take one that has the heating element separate on the bottom not in the drawer but this is a little bit about the do's and don'ts of the warming drawer but basically it seems that the warming drawer is an option if you know what doing and again like everything else we have to be educated consumers we have to ask what we're buying don't just buy and you know blindly the most of them know what what what the question the details they should know enough to guide you this is basically a little bit about the warming jurors now moving on to another fascinating sheila in both issues to give a share they have this because you want to keep food warm and you don't have enough oven space so you don't want to keep the oven on so they have what's called a warmer now a warming drawer is part of a kitchen a warmer is an independent like a closet now you see these warmers by a kiddish in the shoe they they probably three feet high they keep cuggling it enchanted it's called a warmer it's a metal box the ones that i have nishiva that i saw are probably seven feet tall at least the head taller than i am for sure and it keeps the ho the whole shabbos suda both night and day are kept in that warmer it's fascinating to study it and it all the food is fully cooked and they keep it in the warming in the warmer and they close it and they need food to take it out now the temperature at least the reading does not exceed 220. now it could be goes a little higher but it's officially 220 is the max so the question is can you fill this up before shabbos because there's no black in these warmers so the answer is first of all as we said if it's fully cooked now if it's non-adjustable like some of them are so you have another hetero that is no shami but what i what i found challenging a real life shiloh because the shiva serves i think that during the winter 11 30 after the beckham learn a few hours they have a lael shabbos for you know friday friday night there are a few bachelor that they want to learn from two of them until 12 30 but you can't miss the mitzvah of tayameha lisa there's a friday night challenge so they come down and they took oh put the child out and scooped some and put it back how you're putting your back into the warmer you're missing rule number one what's that there's no black it's takahata and it's taken varmint you don't have a blast so you can't put back on shoppers without a bluff so what i told them is what makes more sense to me pull out the tray and the trays are probably close to three feet i mean no long trays pull it out screw about what you want from the pot that's out of the warmer keep part of it in the warmer and then slide it back what's my favorite portion really the food the child is fully cooked why can you scoop out from the child in the warmer itself because you can make a gossa agave or ash and we have to assume that a woman that has a temperature of 220 is pretty much agave age even though you can't cook there but like obviously but you slide it out so the part that's out of the age but since part of it is there's no it's not hazard it's like butler shirley china and brooks my founder of moisture is quoted as saying mama's just you say not regarding a woman he didn't see women warmest regarding a regular oven some people keep kept those days food in the oven just take out the rack and put it back the exhaust of the summer falcon is safe in page 175 has mama's deshila and he's also making as rashtrasa and shabbos so basically this is using the warmer taking it out and putting it back now the same is true regarding another very commonly asked question and that is basically people have they use the oven friday night and it goes off with the shabbos mode now there's a half a tray of cooking in the oven still hot the oven is still on they say you know what let's put it onto the black so we'll have it for tomorrow so the questions get taken from the oven it's still on and put it on on top of the black onto the hot place of the fire so it sounds intimidating you're putting food on the fire but then where's it coming from a wh coming from the from from the oven so you want to put from h to h so you could take the kugel as long as the oven is still on from the oven or even chong whatever it is and take it from the oven and put it on gabriel h of course with the black that's age to asian now somebody asked these uh the best of the men's the kuggle is going to dry out a whole night over keep it on top of the top of the the on the black he wants to take the coil from the oven and put it into the challenge so have a challenge that'll be even better same thing it's some age taste right it's going from the oven into the cellar pan but the only problem is if your cugo has the laci status of a fear if it's baked not cooked so now by putting it into chunk if the child is moist it might be yeah now again if you have a dry challenge or you have a kuggle that's considered your uh visual fine but if you have this on not good combination if the kugel is classified as a fear and you're putting it into a moist tone that would be the the effect of a bishop you have a problem of yes bishop so approach with caution let me tell you an exciting shiloh nothing less than exciting happened this winter and i was very happy when i learned to share that i be able to connect the two someone had a stove top full of different foods on it and the fire went out i don't know how but mice if i went out and he realized that if by tomorrow it's going to be cold he's going to have cold cocoa lunch and he was panicky but he was a very crafty individual and he lived in an older home and he still have what some people don't know it is any longer but he had what's called radiators and shiva i said the word radius lead what's that but then homes like you know most homes today that that are older homes have radiators so you decided let me try it can't go wrong he had a few radiators in different rooms in the house and it was a good for him lucky that it was a very cold winter evening and he put the food on various radiators and he kept it pretty hot after someone told what are you doing you took for food and you put onto a makhama age and don't forget that the the food the fire went out of race it was coming from a non-age and the fellow assumed that a radiate if it's hard enough is amalgamation so it sounds scary but for us it's mostly midwash because it's really aimed bisho bishop the food that he placed on the radiators were all fully cooked and even though there was a challenge but it was still hot so ambitiously but so what was his biggest crime mexican babashal no one cooks on a radiator and i found ramosa dalton the industries and others say this exact case taking food that there's no shallow bishop either dry or hot challenge and put it onto a radiator that will keep it or or even cold cold dry food and make it piping hot is muthu bishop it's not ambush like a bishop and mercy it's not because no one cooks on a radiator now if you want to do this it's fine but if you value your shoulder bias don't put the cooker directly onto the radiator because the whole house will smell from kuggle and it will have a kugel painting job on it without the color from it so make sure you wrap it up well now this is also an interesting question someone has like today many people use the oven and it goes all for the shabbos mode because he wanted to take food from the refrigerator fully cooked food dry food and put it into the oven that's already off somebody asked me he wanted to put matzo he eats mata mean pizza and she was the master got a little stale he wanted to put matzah into the oven that's still very hot because it went off but now it's off it was on so it's still pretty hot but there's no fire on it so the truth is that if there's no fire so it's not it's not agave age i it's still hot so you're lucky but no one cooks in the oven that's off now i the innocent bystander walks into your house and sees you putting food into the oven so that's your better question if you take out food from the oven and you have all the preconditions can you put it back in the oven about you could he put right onto the can you think it show up and put directly under the fire if you have all the preconditions yeah i do innocent bystander that's that's not marissa iron that he's a critical person if you it's magazines either for you or for someone else not to do things that are wrong but putting into an oven that's off is not wrong it's not visual so it's more likely to say that as long as the oven is off it's not mexican now if the food is fully cooked and dry because under hate now the next question also interesting someone wants to have hot cocoa or chicken that's dry but it doesn't have a radiators during the summer so he wants to put it on the outer perimeter of the black now let's be very simple okay those that are have a blast know what i'm talking about let's say this standard is a black so you have a fireplace with actually the fire is we'll call that spot number one agave now next to that is pretty hot but the outer perimeter spot number three doesn't even reach out to leather spot it's good to take the chill out of kuggle or chicken but doesn't never reach accident at this point okay so spot number one is agave age two is gets hot but not gonna be aged and spot number three it does never reach out to lettuce but can i take from the refrigerator on to spot number three the killer so again if you think about it if it never reaches yachts or let this boy it's not an ace i mean someone walks in and sees me taking the refrigerator putting it on to the black but he knows you have a husband and you know you don't have a husband you're not doing things that are a wild i'm putting it on the the non-ace clearly says if you are certain that that place is never yat soladas it's now the truth is it's not practical because it's not going to get very hot rather put it on top of a challan pot or basically have a radiator but this is muta now i must mention that in lambda zayn has come out this shiva and he says but you know there's no machita there's no place that there's a caution uh here is part two here is part three like there's no place how do you know you're not putting on a place that might get hot and taken and the oyster shabbos on the top hey was gracious because you might put it on this path that is yahtzel okay so that's something very reasonable but the khairum if you know for sure that this area is not yatsuri leathers you'll put your hand on nothing you don't jump back it would be mutton to put food from the refrigerator onto that hot spot question someone had a wants to have a leo shabbos tayama now as you know you can't scoop your so you have to have someone holding it and then someone scooping or if you do it yourself you might drop it he says you know what give me a better eight suit i want to have children for a night i don't want to be ivagosa i want to not drop the challenge is there any simple aids and the answer is yes let me say something very simple the child right now is our gabriella a spot number one what you could do is move it to spot number two or certainly spot number three and then you could scoop out the challenge i have gossip there it says so loyally but he's fat number three had got his mother even spot number two is mother it's not a gabby age i it's hot so who cares the inside gossip got bh i thought it got the age when you finish slide it back it's not it was never buff machine was showing it was always on the bluff the finish is and the moisture says this as well that even if you put it the spot number three that doesn't get hot but you didn't take it off the bluff why is that worse than if you're holding it in your hand in mid-air then you're allowed to put it back on the blur and on black is worse doesn't make sense so if you want to do things safely not hold it and you know support it and get someone else slide it to spot number two or three again you know two sounds a little you know problematic because it's hot three sounds better but how do you push it back but both i'm with them because both are not a problem because it's not bugless here with china it was there and it never came off the fire now to make people like the warm challah on shabbos so the truth is almond originally and there's a tuba quoted in aleph tough side decay felt you could even take it from you know the room temperature and put it directly on to the black agaves oh the ants is simple it's not mercury no one cooks no one bakes khali putting it onto the fire but then in heilig on the top of the pointed out that we don't put foods on to the fire and there's no difference this food or that food said even though i think it's because if you allow to certain cases of agave kederis mutter why is this worse but so he's great and he was he was faizab but the aura that's in in simmon periclam it's it on not exactly on top of the fire on a place close to the fire the truth is that that if you if put it on top of the fire you might make toast which makes a little worse because that's like making a new creation that's like toasting after the make on shabbos but basically it's no problem of putting the the the khala on top of the challenge that certainly mutual holiday is not mercy the only issue is it might make it flagship you can have with fish or lava beautiful question someone wanted to put frozen challah to defrost quickly on top of a cholum pot but that's another issue because they usually ice particles on a frozen challah and sometimes the ice particles come from the challah itself sometimes it comes from the freezer but either case it's definitely it's done on montgomery it's frozen so you run into an issue of of cooking the nattachala the ice particles and taka that's an issue you have to get content with because that's what warming froze in water i'll tell you a beautiful sheila but you see how halakhi is so attentive to every nuance someone wants to re-warm cold chicken or cold cook dry so he doesn't have a chole pot he uses a crock pot so can you take the cold chicken cold cooker from the fridge and put it on top of the crock pot you he says if in the times of the shock it was perfectly mutual because you're not putting it against you're putting it on top of cell phones or today if you have a platter and you have the chocolate on top of the platter and you put the dry kugel on top of the cell and pot what are you doing i got a bigger day but if you have a crack pot that's one unit the heating element and the the pot is one piece so you're putting on top of the child part through but what else makkah my age because in this path in this crackpot is the age so you're putting and he says there that he wanted to be fair since that people misquoted him that he feels that that would be like putting in now this is because the truth is that it's not a question of bishop and what is the worst scenario by putting it on top of a crackpot that's one piece is this action mexican marshall on top of a crackpot now do i know if it's one piece or two pieces i never thought it would be mercedes so those that i make i know where they're coming from they say the deciding factor is not if it's an h in it is it and the truth is on top of a crack but it's not american vessel whether it's one piece or not and last but not least someone asked this recently and i was surprised but that's we have to know that he wants to keep a sterno to keep the food hot with a sterno those that not familiar you go to a smorgasbord it's basically denatured jellied alcohol that burns for many hours so he wants to use a sterno on either arab shabbos or put food onto a pot that's being heated by a sterno on shabbos so the embassy is to keep food on the sternal arab shabbos is perfectly mutha because the food is fully cooked it certain does not cook the food so we said earlier once the food is at least michael brenda soy you don't need a bluff but more convincing and that is why you need a black i was told recently that's that they're making a new type of sterno that is adjustable so then you have a problem you have to taco think you know no no right answer but the point is the bottom line is [Music] is it mexican and the stern will be a perfect example where it's not and there's so would not be an issue if you're doing it before shabbos someone said why can't i put directly onto the black that's not mexican of asheville and taco one of the high-end give him his makeup onto black and messed up but that truth is that's not true because people do cook mayor of shabbos they put the black on they put the child on so you can't make the bless not a mexican but agave is muta i'm going to talk to you thank you for listening [Music] [Applause] is 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