Food And The Issur Of Makeh Bepatish - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

like to welcome everyone to tereshiya from arvie smith on dining foods on the island today is being learned and sponsored the capitol family explain how it's made but he heard the question of makkah that would be the problem then we had a shiloh someone who wanted to use instant soup and also very interesting uh matsias as we'll see but is is it any problem with that and i had a third shiloh which was enough to give us the impetus to make a share about it someone has having guests and they cooked a dozen eggs i think it was and the kids they're going to make the eggs on child this morning and they realized that the eggs were soft boiled you cannot make um egg salad out of soft boiled eggs the mutton chop is to put it in water and somehow turn it from soft oil to hard boil so we'll soon see there are many other shy lists but today sugar the common denominator talking about if there's no hush of bishop but the problem is when do we apply the iss of apatis now that's important to clarify machiavellis is one of the lambethas melakas it's literally makabe hitting with a hammer in the michigan they basically had to coat the crush him they wouldn't crush him with a gold casing a covering and they would knock with a hammer to connect the casing the covering so they wouldn't crush him and that's the moloch of machiavelli's hitting with a hammer connecting the gold to the wood now the tai chi i guess the english word be finishing touches a completion an acts of an act of finality but basically machiavelli is hitting with the hammer and that's an act of completing an item okay some learn a different shot in the michigan that because they use the hammer so much that the hammer got bent out of shape and they had to fix it they would bang on the anvil to straighten out the hammer whatever the case is makaba pathish is a very common melaka i'll give you a few quick examples mr burns shin mem steve cotton mem hey says if you get a safer we bought a new safer and the pages were never disconnected so now you have two pages that that is connect you can't open it so to to cut the pages to make them two pages dr mr bureau is the mullah and even through a guy is awesome what's the moloch of their eyes and tearing pages that's the melodrama because in the company they didn't do it right and you're doing it you're completing the the manufacturer of the safe the mr buren shin you die and see if cotton which is really based on kumara but he says if you buy a new pair of shoes and you forgot to put the laces into the street before shabbos so lacing new shoes into a new shoe shoe is the melaka of machiavelli's again thickened mono which is very similar to makaba parties also based on a gemara that if you take a little piece of wood off a piece of log or piece of wood a bigger piece of wood and you take that little splinter to use as a toothpick by sheena that's the melaka of tikkun mana makara you're creating a fully functional toothpick interesting many many poison that hold opening a soda bottle on shabbos the problem is not the soda bottle the problem is you're creating a functional soda cap because as it is it was refastened onto the soda bottle and you can't use it so now when you crack the ring so you're creating a soda cap and take the smear shabbos in tessa orates vault he quotes upside misalmond and opening a soda bottle you're making the soda cap that's very similar to making a keystone laksasino so my point which is important to mention makkabapantish is not major construction that you have to have a hard hat to race mac of the patiss is any finishing touches that really gives a completion to the item oh no it's it's logical maybe making seltzer is mark of apache or taking soft boil making hard-boiled if you need hardworld maybe that's macabre partis but the point that we have to clarify which is really decided today is maybe we will say the following macho the pantish i gave you a few examples if you noticed the tada shover it's all by non-food a toothpick a safer maybe we could suggest a marketing package the islam does not apply to food so if so seltzer and and the all the other examples that we gave eggs there's no lack of a participant i you'll say make a taser so the truth is we find in the end of simmons food there's nothing sweet enough evidently there are some belongings that don't apply to food the mr burns basically says so we see a number of malachi's are exempt from the issue regarding food so maybe we'll suggest aim apatis vehicle then we have a simple head of all of our shires and what comes to mind is a gemara in shabbos hayden because the truth is most of shabbis is negative food so why should we say market and what seems to support this suggestion is the government shabbos have started the cape where the gemara says making cheese on shabbos which basically you take the courage the salad of the of the milk after it's separated and you squish you squeeze it you squash it together you press it together main making cheese on shabbos is this sabine and i'm not going to run quotas as the mystery brewer so here we could reason if boeing applies even to food so why shouldn't it be that macapatis also applies to food but what's much more convincing is irish almighty and shabbos perhaps the xiaomi points out that in that when a person prepares garlic it involves five possible melodies and if the zombie concludes if you complete the production of the garlic that's mac of apatis so the usalmi is as clear as they that macada pathogen applies even to foods it applies to garlic so what's the shiloh so typically when a person hears you you shall me and he doesn't want to to pass king like that he goes probably the baby argues no that's usually true but let me tell you aboutly that might also indicate yes it's a well-known mishna biggest say distinguished and kuffman that the mysterious says that this basic clause ain't bishop if you have a cold piece of cooked chicken you'll have to warm it up on shabbos you've got to pour hot water on it or put it into hot water as long as not i gotta be asian but let's say you have food that was not cooked so you can't even splash you can't even put it into hot water because that's bissell putting raw food into hot water even if it's age is bissell but you allow them in my diaphrag splash hot water onto a raw food because does not cook the food but then the michelin says there are certain foods that will refer to as salty food salty fish malia now basically those are foods that seem to cook easily and you'll even if you take water that's hot water and splash it onto these foods it's awesome in other words most foods cannot be cooked if you splash hot water onto them you have to immerse them in hot water but these salty fish they call us the espanyon the spanish mackerel as the vel tyches that is even splashing water is awesome now the mystery uses a very strange term zooey gemar malachton that's very similar to the usami's description spells it out these salty items it's awesome even though splashing hot water does not cook it so the grace of the voice the tamara the rama learns the mishna the shogun that the salty items are awesome because of the path and then third place in uh takes it a step further and he says since the mishnah is answering the salty island because of machiavelli's loved africa you have to have hot water even cold water is awesome because the the the the problem is that it's so salty you can't eat it so by using cold water you make it edible so some dip in the garden since this is macabre then even if it's cold water it's awesome and the mantra in gimbal test says you can't take off troublesome mysterious because it's masakendojo after all you can't eat it without trim or some ice being taken so thomas [Applause] so now basically we see a very strong case that the mishnah the badly also holds the age macropatis so if so we have a problem with salsa and making eggs from soft to heart and an instant soup and we'll soon see a host of other questions but before we apply this lamisa we have to learn rashi because rashi on this mishna that says awesome rashi says bishop rashid clearly says the issa of the salty items is bishop and it's not only rashi the rambam and parish vishnayas the irayam or zurab and hirokum the koba the maybe the all learn the mishna that the ism is the is official now you're wondering how could it be bishop if you're splashing water that's not bishop so you're right regularly splashing hot water is not bishop but as we spoke about this in the past there are certain foods that are called abyssal they cook very easily and you don't need much heat to cook them well definitely the coolies are spanian the salty items are primary examples of kalia bishop and that's why the bir halacha now listen to this this is pretty unprecedented quotes de la voz [Music] making the salty fish al's bishop is a riot there's no mark of apatis so now this is a posix dilemma because the usami clearly says it's awesome okay kadailia poiskim as early as the lavois clearly say it's awesome the bob lee you could learn two ways either smack of a patiss or bishop but what's really shocking says there's no in the car for it and therefore no i'm certainly not qualified to pascal but i could tell you what what i'd approach that i wanted to take is let's look into the sugi a little closer see when all agree hey maka then you're safe now this is the beauty of the sugar because as we go along we'll find more examples of macabre pathogens let's start with the following case did you ever wonder it's a bearish gomorrah and shahinara a person with chigasa and shops he wants to have freshly scrambled eggs on shabbos is it shaykh the answer is of course a chive it's a fair shikamaru you crack an egg in a hot uh middle eastern sun when it's very sunny so i could ask you a better question why isn't every bissell also makable partisan you can make it from right or cooked so the simple terrorists pakis and the rat and the mirrors and kuf down iran and gimbal both say the machiavelli party is only mulaka by default if there's no other issa then it's makkah patis if not every kaiser should also be making a party every bishop so that's not such a swear question but the question is if you're why are you allowed to cook in the sun why is the macabre dish see here we see a yes that i mentioned earlier himself says this yes that machiavelli is like i told you an act a finality you cut the pages or the you take up the splinter you do an act and it's done when you put the egg a raw egg in the sun it's not done it has to cook that's not macabre that's not the definition of apathy now let me add yesterday i should say see we have a bikasha why is bishop on shabbis asa if it's a delayed reaction every bishop should be gramma the territory you're probably right bishop is only grammar but that's the tsuru the torah every bishop is is a delayed process just like zaire doesn't happen right away and zyra winning doesn't happen right away that's the moloku so if the tourism is that it's us it's awesome but making the party is is an act of finality this is not final putting in the sun is not this so we have one big aside that even if you hold yash makara path that's only what happens right away if it's delayed reaction like cooking in the sun all the green is muta and you'll be very pleasantly surprised how much how many cases this will be negative but let's move on there's a different factor and that's another biggest side of making the partition because the gemaran bayekhov gimmel says that there's no islamic making kaley from food that's right for animals and russia gives a muscle if you take microbes a straw and you make it into a kisom lattice but you see enough you make it into a toothpick it's perfectly muthu it's a plia keep them take a piece of wood and make a toothpick as a block of their iso and just because it's michael blame it's better suck the rana fine art because food does not last and to be an partisan has to be misguided so if you take a splinter off a piece of wood that lasts toothpicks less but you make food into a toothpick it doesn't last so we see an incredible insight for it to be mark of apartheid it has to last and this run is quoted by the rav and shinyo dao let's see if you're alive and the biggest writer is because the gemara says in shabbos [Applause] make it into food but the terror system bush held that fool doesn't last it can't be mark of a partisan so now we see a second concept besides the fact that like we said that because if the first you say it has happened right away it has to last why is it because food doesn't last so the reason why there's no sphere vertical doesn't last we could say a macropathy doesn't last but let's say you have a food that will last that would be my macabre parties so that's the hezbollah that even though the bush holds maca food that does not last is not macabre ah you'll wonder wait a second so why is making cheese awesome binyan i a dozen food doesn't last so the answer is very simple i saw this in in the double posted in the midsias you know we think of cheese that you eat it right away but the real cheese that the more it age is the better it is that cheese was made to age so when you crush together the cheese and you made you kept it to last that's why magabin was final but the only issue that i had a problem with is why is making why the completion of garlic is awesome there's garlic last so this i saw in the safe of binyan shabbos um and he says fakert you look at the xiaomi it's clear that they made garlic to put away to use it like we have spice like we have a muscle garlic powder or dried garlic and he says that the biggest rally is could you show me right before the piece about garlic the xiaomi says if you take flour and process it it's also good it's also making papadas now flour less so obviously garlic also lasts it wasn't like you cook garlic which doesn't last you took garlic either you dried it you process it but the garlic lasted so we see our second major usaid that the even if you hold yes it has to last and the third major is on that same but here's his catch i why does the mishna in shabbos say the iss is bishop why is the makhabapatis so his bikridis is that really the salty fish even as it is is edible if the food right now is edible so you can't taste macabre parties if you can eat it as it is so it's foods what are you doing improvement improvements so the only issue is bishop now this is his your site and he said that's why the mystery to put salt to put the water on salty herring is not packaged because it's edible okay now la maison the bia locker has a bikash on this he says all we're showing him say that this salty fish was inedible and that's why his diet but i think all agree if the food is edible as it is it's not makable so we could say a third is a third factor that if the food is edible as it is all agree there's no makhaba pakta and one final point i can't say all the greek but again we're going to use all of them the rajman khalid dalit siminai and hey quotes already we shall me yes if you do it right away it's okay so here again and now i'm going to start applying it the myself that's why we asked ourselves is yes machiavelli participate that's an excellent question you have no idea how good that question is i'll answer you as the best of my ability according to xiaomi yes yes [Applause] don't forget the whole mission is talking about bishop like de la bush the mission is changing and turning it into mac of apartheid it's very that's a religion the passage of the mission is there's no macro patterns but what's most convincing that mr burez i don't know how to deal with that i mean didn't forget it you saw me but he says [Applause] i can't say he's wrong but you have to realize there's a big picture here there are gadolia playskin based on your xiaomi that yes macbook so what's the best approach to think of each cellular and see do we have any other coolers and the four cool that we just mentioned is if it's not final the act doesn't change it right away it's one hectare we had a second hectare if la maison it is roy to eat as it is we have the rajvisio soy that if you do it to eat miaad it's okay and then we have the biggest sight of dovahshain and miskayam iside is not makhabapatish now sit back or sit up and enjoy we'll see how much we got from this simple hakudama let's start with a simple shiloh which is hopefully now was simple making cell sign sharpest now of course the today many schools have a cold water and a seltzer makeup that involves electricity of course you don't use it on jobs i'm talking about the old-fashioned way either you add an ingredient or typically today you have a little canister and you connect it and you press the whatever you press down and that releases a that gas that carbonates the water pick hits up you don't have to figure out how it works but there's no electricity involved it's just making from what into cells so the the marsham in aleppo he says this is how you show me which you shall me you probably guessed it right yes all say that making salsa is a form of apathy however for us we realize that there's many stuff to make that's first of all like to be a locker even if it is more so seltzer does not list it comes and it goes also the water of the cells is ready to drink as it is and also if you make seltzer you have to drink it right away otherwise it gets ice kebab so you have the rashvezhetta and that's why the heartsv and simon cough pay tests he quotes the machmeren president the vault is makel to make celta on shabbos and he says the first hat is ana maskayam then he says if you would make it by mixing it so you're making it right away that's mac of the parties but this is a process so we have the hat that i mentioned earlier it's a process also he says the mice the khayodams so it's royal spirit it's not misguided it's a and it's not immediate and weird you also have the rajva now la maisa the sri sashabus himself is makel i mentioned fine so we could say that as the sri sashabu himself says although the god loves you he says people told me that the well does it so bottle bottled so the masham sort of retracted his sap so we could say i can't say it's a hundred percent push it but those that make cells on shabbos now someone asked the other day he has the contact lenses they have what's called poly dent you take a little tablet you put it in water and it creates a type of a substance that cleans the lens so the truth is on shabbos we don't clean lenses of a leap besides that but this poly dent concerns me a lot because this is not an oil and also here you don't have to have the you know this you drop the main head of the of the uh of the block and here this is something that you have to realize is worse than the previous issue the same thing is the old-fashioned i think you still make it alka-seltzer take a tablet put it in water and it starts the the the the process to make it into the the thing that's that's supposed to help the problem that even though it doesn't happen right away but the truth is here we don't have to have to have aim maka party so if you assume that it'll be mark of apartheid this wouldn't be the bill but you might have to have that at the end of the sky it doesn't last so these two are not as simple as cells so that's probably a little more simple next aura is something that you might not realize but poison spoke about especially when it first came out i'll just give you mock magda my heart from a year that he said the tale of rob he was together for many years did not allow using instant coffee or tea on shabbos not because official he was worried about makkah baptist so what did he do before shabbos they had to make coffee sense like we have tea cents but they didn't allow any powder on shabbos where's this coming from so let me explain that coffee tea or even cocoa i'm talking about powder that there's no shield of bishop again i'm not getting admission we're talking about uh today's coffee you know we call it the nescafe or tasters choice i mean coffee powder instant coffee so the truth is think about the following the whole patent the whole myla the of making instant beverages is you don't want to make go through the butter bother of cooking the beans and making coffee so they make the coffee for you and they convert it into a powder that's basically inedible and you have to recreate the coffee with mousse you're taking inedible powder and you're reconstructing it you're putting the finishing touches to make it into a tasty coffee so to quote it by ann joseph the pooper of and the tuba gradually of course waited to tell me of he has three children's cufflinks and alcohol from hay but his point is that's upon him you're creating a coffee and that would be machiavellis and it's that's a mishna zurich of course like delivers so this place came to canada the gimbal base also has this point this is a contemporary command they change from coffee into an inedible and you recreate it into a drinkable coffee zoo i.e machiavellian even if there's no bishop however we think about it there's a big machima khalik now it's not we can't just be deutsche because it truth is that's the finishing product of it but the truth to be the reason why it could be mako first of all even if it's but here's another maybe a little of an adler point but i think it's an embassy point the coffee might be considered edible as it is some people add a little sugar maybe you could say but that's a little that's hard what i meant to say an aedler point is that macabre partisans you're creating a food here this is one of the ingredients that you have to add to make a food but not like you're taking from inedible fish to edible fish you're adding this to water and sugar and milk and you have a coffee i'll give you a dogma by alma okay let's say you go to your makoton's house for shabbos and he serves you know he knows you likes hot soup a big bowl of soup double double portion you start tasting it and sin is good there's no salt added you rather die than eat the soup as it is but you can't embarrass him so he's not looking you take a spoon a tea teaspoon of salt to throw it in now it's perfect it wasn't edible now it's edible you ever think of that doesn't sound right then again tea without sugar no one eats tea without sugar michaela partisan there has to be a point that that food preparation is not a mac of a partition if you perfect the food if you take the saltiness out of the the salty fish that's making a package but food preparation mixing ingredients even though you won't eat it without the mixture it's not making sure the quesadillas with instant coffee or tea he doesn't agree to them he has a more of a lambda shattam that you're not making it into an oil here it's just like a tavern it's the the spice that makes the coffee good but i think it's even more positive you're not making a food you're seasoning the food you know i'll give you a double again a dough but the marsh was asked about what he writes flesh extract i figured out what he meant he wrote in yiddish but it's an english word extract piquetza someone asked me as meat extract and you add hot water you got to do it on chapus so he says i don't know exactly what it is and i hope it's not bishop but he says there's no of of the sake in mono machiavelli he says because you're just seasoning it to make it edible variety says you're allowed to sweeten the coffee and the tea or spice the soup and no one says it's macabre so again you have to like you know literally get an abler point but you have to realize the difference between seasoning or flavoring food or preparing food making it from yeshua and apparently this is why it's interesting that young yosef on the on the footnote he says that the prophet himself the savior was retracted his exactly is and he was mako so la maison mice developed is makel to use powdered food even though you could say i'm re creating it but the belt is making with this regard i should also mention this is why we use baby uh formula and many other different foods for children and adults even though you might reason but i see reconstructing it there has to be a difference between seasoning something mixing something or actually re repairing it tikkun mana what's more of an issue but it's basically following that we learned till now is the question of instant soups so this simple instant soup is something like a coffee and tea it's a powder you add water today we have an instant soup that has luxury in it it's mama's a full bowl of super cover choppers so for us we say what are you bothering with instant soup make regular chicken soup nice nice way looking at it the yes ravosment big level and he has to bring hot soup to a few hundred patients it's impossible so he wants to use instant soup he brings instant soup to the patient's room there's always hot water on the floor and it makes the job much easier to give every patient hot soup so yes is there a problem you're converting from a cube of a solid cube into a hot bowl of soup is that mac of apatis so la maison you have to realize that we're talking about this no bissell and i want to be very clear because the cube soup is typically fully cooked now it's a question of bishop bishop if there is or not but today's soup in the cup have possibilities of real bissell and again i'm going to be very clear because i know the matsias some of the instant soup the cups are fully cooked the luxury was deep fried and oil so it's cooked the vegetables were cooked already the the seasoning was cooked already so ain't bishop but there are some instant soups that the laksa was never cooked was not deep fried it was dried there are some instant soups that have the cubed vegetables were never cooked it was dehydrated the the moisture was removed but it was never cooked so you're not talking about the pa makava party showing to my mom special but we're talking and i will say but i'm using a cliche but this is a bona fide collier bishop it was designed to react to even minimal water heat so this is real cali a bishop so if it involves a bishop so it's bishop der eiser then there's no makapapathish because it's worse it's special we're talking about cubed soup or instant soup or a soup in the cup that there's no bissel oh so once you came to that mascara that it's not bishop what's the problem akbar partisan so here ravozna writes and again this is in a bigger hoiland [Applause] was not fully convinced that we we can aim in other words there's no problem but this might be a problem and then he towards the end he adds and by the way in instant coffee i'm also mahm and that's me is music to my ears because if you hold that instant coffee is awesome because maculopathis sow two soups same thing you you're recreating this powder into a soup but le di dan that we are making with instant soup with instant coffee and tea so the higher the instant soup should not be a problem but let me be very clear there are times that it's question of bishop so bishop is a problem even if it's a kalish nishi but if it's kali a bishop called the many place kim khali bishop is also even the krishna so if you ask me tell me is instant soups you can't say that is but if you ask me i want to do it is it no shiloh whatsoever ravsna is cautious he says this might be makable partisan but what's interesting and i guess when i went through the sugar i found in the high ticket price can discuss you know what might be a problem ironic as it is in the instant soup forget about the soup the spoon so i wasn't sure but i did a little investigation it seemed that they included in the instant soup a spoon now the spoon is plastic of course they don't have a big spoon you have to it's two parts you have to like open it up so opening a spoon two parts not the problem but some of them you have to click it together that's what i was that's what i was told so you open it and click it together so that might be mark of the package because it's becoming one in other words if it's to one piece the app is open it's like a folding chair holding bed so the interestingly enough there are shabbos and fast lamborgh he says but you're not making it it's made it's like you're buying a hat and you put the brim down he said that's machiavellis but the shabbos bashabas and khalid based to zion says no you do it the first time you're making the spoon now i adjusted just you know connecting it so of course we hear the sword that it's made already but of all things the problem will be the spoon because the spoon there's no hetero another contemporary example and that is the use of whipped cream a pressurized can you shake it up and you express cream for ice cream or cake so the embassies is or snow and crush it to make it into water what's wrong i'm not cooking it what's wrong so rashi says it's my lid [Music] in other words when you take something manually and you change it from a from from a salad to a liquid it looks like you you ma you made the water and this is in test crushing ice to make water is moisture it's a verb you made it into water fresh what's wrong with making water i didn't cook the water so omega said what's wrong so he says that's the breach of apartheid it's an israelite israeli banner uh-huh so we see that there is a pramaca partisa [Applause] now like this we understand why whipped cream would also be a problem because you're making from a liquid to a salad i don't want to tell you that in the can there's no whipped cream it's a liquid content that mix mixes with the pressure with the pressure that comes out and makes it into a foam into a salad and that's why deshmere ashabus you'd all of dalit using whipped cream is not mac of the package it's mild now you wonder how could it be moderate or not macropotis very positive because isn't the rabbanan that it looks like you're creating something and this is more looks more like you're creating something than makba partisan didn't argue on the gomorrah and so machiavelli is okay but my other is us the next question is making from a soft boiled egg putting it into water and making it hard boiled so the truth is you might say oh that's macabre potash because you cannot use soft boiled eggs for your egg salad you need hard-boiled but we have a few smaller is why there's no macropathies in this context first of all according to the biologica second of all the egg is edible because people eat soft eggs third of all which is probably the best of all making eggs sounds familiar because we did not get married allowed to make an egg and a raw egg in the sun the terrorist is a gradual process there's no mark of a passage no this is also a gradual process like the if you can eat it right away it's mutter so we have many suarez that there's no problem makapathis turning from soft to hard but there's a more serious problem and that's called bishop because the mahabharata and you cook it fully is bishop the rice the mr verse spells out it's bishop the isa even though it's edible as it is now the mathias says that soft-boiled eggs are edible people eat it but they say an unexpected woman should not eat soap-boiled eggs because there's a concern of seminole that in in soft-boiled eggs because it's really in a certain sense raw so we see even in and you know medically speaking the soft-boiled eggs is not considered hard-boiled so the poison and rabbi all say that from soft to heart is a problem of bishop it's like bringing it from michael bandura to mabusha called circle now once we say it's bishop of course we don't do it but now we understand another reason why it doesn't make this because it's a more serious problem of bishop someone once told me that he heard that using a scooper to scoop out exile or liver is the problem of boeing i said i know where you're coming from but it doesn't sound right because he assumed that just like you're now going to take pieces of cheese pieces of milk of curd and macabre in his hair so too scooping out pieces of liver or pieces of egg you're making it into bueno and the expressed the kits in semen paste and he says when you make but solemn in bayim yesterday's that's the kitten regarding chopped eggs now it's very hard to understand it and if if he even meant that but because the messiah says that when you make cheese it becomes one it's it it solidifies and it is one cheese gets harder and harder but when you take a scoop of liver or people for eggs put on the plate it's just holding together basically just been about by gravity but it falls apart after a while and i believe that's why the genre of and that's terrifying of your test he closed his kitsap and he says it doesn't make sense because only megan is boiner but there's no point up in egg salad now he doesn't explain exactly why not but i think it's positive because it does not hold together it doesn't doesn't solidify the shabbos and you're out of memo he says it has to be like that because on yom did you allow to cook you allowed to make meatballs but no one says making meatballs is boiner so it's got to be and brain and yamcha is awesome it has to be that just putting it together but if it doesn't become one mamish you know this boiner by cheese is the exception not the norm someone asked me wants to make a a bowl out of watermelon i said what do you mean he says he buys a whole watermelon cuts it in half scoops out all the pieces and then he uses the half of watermelon rind and he puts the pieces in and it's an elegant bowl and he serves it by a simmer so he's making from a watermelon rind into a cayley machiavellis is that macabre partisan so the embassy is that it's hard to be that's a kaley it's just a half a watermelon rind but let's say he's a little more elegant and he he fashions it he makes it a nice bowl so the truth is this would be ahead of mark of a maca patties but i feel like to be allah because one of the beer lockers rises is whatever's right in the bahama is not macabre no watermelon rind is a very typical michael bahama so it's porsche and i saw the mark zelio and the chuba says this in freyja is ahmad raj mem hey that making a bowl out of watermelon rind or any fruit for that matter would be to be a mac okay i won the lightful of bush if it's a problem but it could be since it doesn't last and it was kind it would be okay that's why the same thing this is talking more common people take a cucumber and they make a little of an indentation it and they put crane in they serve it to filter fish is that macabre partisan you're making a grain holder that's a maka party it's a food an embassy food it's not your really a problem of on shabbos at all what is an issue and this the mouse leo himself and that trooper points out if you take a carrot and you make a design a distinct design that would be mac of the package that would be kaiser that sort sure is also and we know tsar surah siva applies to food you have icing on cake and i don't use ice make make lettering with the icing so if it's a question of siva there's no hector but if it's just mark of the pantish boy somebody asked me a tricky question you have to remember there's the anchors they have besides the stringy licorice they have also the regular licorice that has a hollow center so the children like to bite off the top and the bottom and use the rest as a straw so you're making a straw so that would be a hectare of a maca package i want the light to level if there would be the same height this would last so before you make a straw out of your licorice look into the sugar a little deeper but like to be unluckier okay making jello on shabbos when there's no bishop of course there's a way of making with hot water would be bishop let's say there's no sheila bishop but you leave it in the refrigerator and it congeals so this might be makable pad you take it from a liquid making into a jello into a food but like to be [Applause] but this is a gradual process not an immediate change and we have the heter like we saw by eggs and tacos he says he says no problem this is a gradual process but he does caution this might be an isadorabanon of knowledge it's not my life you're not doing the adium but you put it into the refrigerator and it becomes hot that's like putting water in the refrigerator to make ice the freezer to make ice cubes but you have to realize that this is not moist that the gemara asses this is nailed it there's a fundamental difference miles you do be a dying and all agree is with ostomy bottom neither does you put something the mushroom in the freezer that freezes or you put something that's a gelled substance next to the fire that melts that it happens by itself you didn't do biodiem so that's that's why to make ice cubes with ashkenazim don't make ice cream shabbos unless it's a malcolm choir so be able to make jello is mama's no it's not doing it and for there are more than what i'm saying to make jello question someone has a stomach issue anyway he has to eat toast can you take from khala and make it into toast so this is fascinating because the we have all the coolest bread is eaten right here as it is and it's a gradual process and you have the raj with it right away and the biology [Applause] has about making toast he says this is machiavelli's gomber because yes boy because it doesn't happen right away but in the same two visit let's say you find an arab uh shabbos uh godzilla you found an oldhaven you put away after circus and your mamas can eat it's hard like a rock and you want to put it in hot soup and there's no problem of bishop there's still a problem makaba partish but she thought sorry that that's makhaba partisan and the third shuba and actually earlier like aleph tazhayan he wants to say that if you have a fruit let's say grapes and there's paint on it and you can't eat it taking off the paint is yes all the that is making beautiful aura in the olden days the wine that they had was so strong you couldn't drink it as it is in fact you drank strong wine it was about priorities you had to mix it with water and then it became burpier gotham so the immediate and cement profile of wonders that it's it's not drinkable it should be awesome to mix water on chabas and no one says that anybody sucked the heart sweet a beautiful territory simmons pay test under apple if the murderer would say that on wine as it is there's no bracha so then it's making the package but since you make a burp appropriate at least that means it's right this place sauce no one is right they eat the drink as it is there's no mark of the pantish another question someone had a a a candy dishland marshall i'm not i'm not this act with the real story and there's a hole in it and you want this user on chat because he was a stickle of a heverman so he took a piece of chewed gum okay and he put the gum into the hole and of course it hardened and he fixed the kali someone said what are you doing you know i'm not gonna panty you're fixing a kaley ticking kaylee he says hey making the practice but of course he's wrong why is he wrong because that means you take a food make it into a caylee just out of caylee but as the magnifrom says and shinju if you take food and with the food you make a ticket and a kali and if it's a good chicken so why is it mutton i mean if you take the gum and put it into a challenge it's not going to last but he'd use it in a candy dish at last if it lasts so why isn't it tickling so what's what's the distinct that's taco you'll be awesome and let me leave you with two artists asked me the following question he had he has listerine strips and he went around shabbos could he use it i said why not it's not a reform he says he thinks it's a problem of moira why listen to this because you as it is it's like a thin sheet of paper so to speak it doesn't have the effect you put in your mouth so with your tongue you sort of transform it from a paper into a liquid that gives its desired result so why isn't that my little be a die you're not you're dying with his tongue so i said let me ask another question okay there's one better ravna has a fascinating tuva and hey like testament iron base they asked him i don't know if he have this in america but in europe this is a common thing they have a powder gum you take a powder put in your mouth and then with the saliva combines with that and that becomes into a gum that's edible and becomes like a salad the their question of lisa in this scenario because if you're mixing the powder with thing with the saliva and that's a real leash it becomes solid so if ozna says basically there's a cloud in your mouth does not show i mean a lot of struck out grapes the juice of grapes and boiler in the mouth does not apply and the truth is if we have a pro if lush applies in the mouth then turkey applies the mouth how could you eat food so i told him ravoism did not consider this becoming this gum as a problem of my lid because ain't my lid the pet if there's no toilet there's no lust there's no boiler there's no street then even if it is my lid you might be right but there's no milder in the mouth but last but not least and this is really fascinating there was a product that was made a number of years ago the company is called la brielle the actual product is called chris but basically i think it's called the wonder wonder cook of amateur wonder food whatever but the kids what it is is they sell you a box with food in it and there's also two two other components the food is fully cooked in a vacuum packed bag but you're traveling and you don't have an oven you have a hot microwave so they give a plate metal plate that has magnesium on it a bag of water that has chemicals mixed in and you splash the water or put the water into this plate actually you put it into it and there's a chemical reaction that the water starts to boil very violently now if the bag of food is in this mixture of water that's reacting to the chemicals it gets piping hot so it's very convenient you're traveling and there's you know there's no microwave you want to have hot food so it became a whole question on shabbos is it what's what's the havamina maybe the mascara because we mentioned earlier the gemara says in shabbos and so if this is just a novelty for some people not their official then this is perfectly mature now i want to tell you but moisture was asked this is 50 over 50 years ago and the gimmelgon base if a microwave oven is mutha on shabbos to cook with obviously you're not putting it on it's on already so moisture i guess the reason why it's more than the sun is bishop but microwave often he writes is derek bissell i no one used it today just wait and see when it becomes popular it's better than regular cooking so if this labrador product becomes very bishop about it's awesome but the problem is at the at this point it's not yet bishop why is it and the answer is you're right the problem the itakamuta to cook the water ah you're cooking water on shabbos but ain't there a bishop but here's the catch the food is gets cooked in the water the food is being cooked not in the hammer and told this hammer and those kram is awesome so that's why the places they can the food can't be cooked the water but not the food but what's to us important the charlotte is there a question to make of apartheid you're taking a bag of water putting on a plate and you're making this bubbly uh substance and some place can feel that's macabre partisan rebel skins okay