Din Choleh Beyom Kippur - Rabbi Yakov Zev Smith

like to welcome everyone to today 718 851 8651 email.com Smith today I'm going to try to do a schoa say that when a person learns a suya and he does it properly then he's doesn't have to go through the problem that sometimes that Su represents for example people are afraid to learn about because you want to be healthy you're afraid to think about being a but if you learn about with the learning and hopefully we'll all be and I must say the besides that it's but there it touches upon to other areas of as well so it's really we have a a double school to learn today the I'll just tell you where we started I heard a shil with someone who's not in the best health and if he starts to fast usually by by midday he's going to have to eat a lot he's got to get very and he just has to eat a lot but if he starts eating a little bit at a time what's called sh we'll soon see the details but sh means if he starts L tissue Le to eat a little bit of time he can make it a whole day by eating just what should he do because really now he's fine maybe he shouldn't eat now shum or maybe no let's be practical if he eats now shum he'll avoid eating then we had a sh someone must take medicine must must must but he doesn't have to fast he could fist he doesn't have to eat for the medicine the problem is that he has to drink water with with the pill he can't swallow it or he can't take it on empty stomach and these are many other shilot which I discuss today beem so I didn't forget that last year we learned a different part of the sugya of eating AIP but this is a totally different sugya but I want to just remind ourselves of one point that is the ad for today and that is besides the fact that EA fasting is a MIT but it's integral part of in fact says if someone has the choice that if he stays home he could fast the whole day if he goes to sh he'll have to eat in because he'll get sick get a from going he'll get sick stay home a whole day and don't go to Minion and don't D it's better to fast even if it means not going to SH now this could be very Nea people that are weak but if they stay home they could fast the whole day if they exert themselves to go to sh they'll end up having to eat because it seems that an integral part of the the MIT and the is the ESS so certainly the ESS is very important but then again as important or probably more important is the say if someone fast but he's not supposed to it's like suicide and it's not a coincidence that on the we about that very so this is the difficulty of the sugya the utmost important of the ESS the utmost important of eating when you have to eat so we'll try to juggle these two and see what to do in every situation so as always is we try to find one somehow to give us guidance to the whole Su I'd like to pose a very simple question how do we look at the Mitzvah of eating when you have to eat has to eat do we say that a that has to eat for him it's not y it's HRA because of the situation it's as if y was suspended I give you a when a young baby a young child eats no one will say he's doing an A but he has no choice but a child is not to fast maybe a that's allowed to eat for him is not so it's HRA or maybe that's too liberal why should it be Hut whatever he has to eat let him eat in other words it's it's temporarily suspended you wonder what's the difference the wording so sit back and enjoy that's really the rest of the share so one thing I could say it's almost P that Y is notra when a person has to eat he has to eat but it's much more likely to say that it's first of all the same sh we have on chabas and most can believe that is notra it's so should be the same so in it's hard to believe that once he has his pass is not a but we could prove it from a very important let's say a person is and he's really sick in fact he's so sick the doctor says you can't eat him you have to eat regularly three meals a day okay fine he finished eating uh I don't say lunch 2:00 in the afternoon do says you know something now you're good to go you could go for the rest of the day I mean I know what you want to do but you don't have to eat anymore you had your breakfast you had your lunch you could go till at night he proves even that had to eat regularly once he had enough anything extra he says it's occurs he concedes I know it's not simple he to know what you need what you don't need even in the worst scenario that has to eat a full suda once you had enough that's it and this isn't this that it's only had it been Hut so why stop him midday okay you might say even HRA is only one you needed but I saw other beginning that says Ney how could you think differently it's p you're only allowed to eat what you need he quotes a Raj so it seems pretty clear that even that has to eat a lot but it's not what you need is beyond that we're back to regular ESS now of course you have to be careful the person that gets too nervous do I need this do I not need this like everything else but the PO say whatever he needs he has to eat because that's the but beyond that whatever he doesn't need he doesn't need now of course you have to be very careful with that it shouldn't be a situation that every bite is a torture and he has to's he's torn do I need it or not person has to consult with a doctor with the r what he needs but basically it seems pretty clear that it's not in fact the in beginning of WR that only has to drink should drink but there's no he to eat I car he only has to eat no he to drink now typically in my experience I've seen many times people that only have to drink will soon see he has a kidney stone problem or he's dehydrated or other shes but when someone has to drink drink but there's no have to eat because again it seems pretty clear that it's notra I mean the M fact that said better stay home a whole day and Miss daving but don't go to schol if you can have to eat even though he's already it's pretty clear that it's not but what's probably the best and for us is important and that's the based on a when you have a or they must eat again we talking they must eat give them what we refer to as some called but don't just eat a little bit pause a little bit more and pause we'll soon see the details but that's what's called sh question is if we if we're going to say that is so why much the person if he's a that that's allowed to eat let him eat like a men and the Em Say by other when a person's a he's allowed to eat there's no din I have a whole list of that say that so why do we have so this itself is the biggest that is at most you need to okay but if you could manage with a small amount and we'll soon see the then that's what you have to do in fact I'll tell you A big we spoke about this last but now just bris is quoted by his son in the that held that if someone is sick there's eat as much as you want I mean eat you don't have to do of course once he has enough he doesn't have to eat more famous word is that's someone that's not yet sick but if they fast they'll become sick so right now there's no that person has to do but says if someone is already there's no and the way explains also explain like this because the held apparently that on isra like the she of the that it's only that it's but as we spoke last go with the p of the of the and that even someone who's already a but if he commanded him he has to what does that indicate it seems we definitely are convinced not now I know it's a big we didn't do justice we have a big agenda still but we're going to say basically that a person should try to fast obviously it's a it's the part of the day but when someone has to eat it's HRA and only what's necessary he's allowed to eat now let's apply this specifically to the various shs that come up first of all a person has to make a decision is he going to eat or fast and there's no one Cloud but I think the best cloud is cloud number one is ask a sh speak to the doctor the doctor knows that person's condition and that mes that that information give over to the r second CLW God is not to leave it to AR a few minutes before his man you know the r is busy he also has AR he also the last minute sh but if a person got a last minute emergency okay so he has to ask the r but people know that condition in advance of Yip a few days before yam called the doctor you know you lead calling doctors the last the last day you know what happens you get the maning machine go right to the emergency room what do you do with a sh in the emergency room well they say the next Avail point in 3 months it's not going to help so the is an advance of Y called a doctor from that information go to the r again a few days before you have it's very insensitive to leave everything to the last minute but basically it's a sensitive question make sure you have enough time to present it properly with the right if possible it's very very K to consult with a from a doctor a doctor that's sensitive with and that's typically a from doctor in the beginning of quotes from that says experience shows that a doctor that's not from or doctor doesn't give it much thought to him it's you know what's what are you worrying about he just eat you know but a doctor has to be sensitive someone told me the story his father's had the sh where the there was a cancer patient and and he basically asked the doctor he was on undergoing treatment could he fast do says no no no stop with this fasting you know you can't fast okay doctor said it the next day the same patient had to undergo a certain test to see where he's holding and he have to fast until after the test was completed doctor gave him a 130 appointment the afternoon mean he has to fast till at least 2:00 he was very disturbed I thought you're not supposed to fast no but he got to the off doctor says you know I'm a little delayed come back at 3:30 and he was horrified doctor I have to fast till 3:30 he goes there's nothing wrong with fasting in your condition yesterday to today imagine so that's why laa doctor that that doesn't care is not trusted sometimes the doctor who's not from is is to because he doesn't know the importance of a he thinks oh the Jewish people must fast let him try but in either case you have to have someone that has the in Balance to know what to do no if there's no other doctor so you have to tell the doctor gra doctor listen it's very important for me to fast but it's also important for me to maintain my health but basically try to find a doctor that's sensitive to the needs of and of course of how to classify someone to be a that's allowed to eat so again that's obviously not not reg but I think it's a very important that gives us guidance in we know the B between basically someone that's an who's stable so you're for when it comes to there's an important factor to consider that even an aim might be and it's very logical because right now he's an aim and he's basically his condition is stable but how do you know what's going to be after fasting 26 hours he lowers his resistance he becomes weak so as all the say even if now he's name but a fasting 26 hours will cause him to to fall into a let him eat now he says people make a mistake they think that you allow to eat when there's a and he might die in the spot that's not he says even if it means that if he fast now he's going to get a little a little more sick and within a year it will affect his condition that's also M to eat because don't forget you know he has to fight his illness but I saw even more than that it's more of the that we're focused on when someone eats when he needs it and he strengthened he could fight the ill when someone's hungry with low resistance he might deteriorate he can't fight the illness he says when when you come to a r the question is not if I fast will I die but if I eat is there a bigger chance I'll get better you see we have to be proactive by eating a person is strengthened and he has more to fight the illness and the truth is in the beginning of and I quote even now he's you have to have a little if it could turn into a problem then even now the a is allowed to eat so basically we have to know a little bit of a lot of medicine and a lot of that's why the doctor with the r is the per perfect to give the right guidance someone suffered a heart attack now he's fine he's okay but the question is can he fast the fact that now he's an aim by does not mean he should fast if fasting does not affect his condition let him fast hate after surgery again it's hard to give a cloud but I know in other the say within three months after surgery he shouldn't fast maybe should be more but a person has to know his condition if he's weak after surgery then he can't then he can't fast again I'm not a doctor but you have to know the the condition of the patient the age of the patient the seriousness of the surgery but it's not just right now he's stable he fast he has has to know if the fasting 26 hours will have an adverse effect on his condition we had a sh remember two years ago a young boy his first Tinus he had a terrible stomach virus Kiper and he ate nothing and threw up everything pardon me so a even though he's a healthy boy but right now with an empty stomach you can't fast so we told him he has to eat shur and if he throws up or diarrhea causes loss of noisin of liquid and he must drink at least on someone has kidney stone problems so again there typically sometimes he could wait and but if he needs the drinks to keep the condition from deteriorating if he needs the drink so he drinks that's the perfect example of he's not sick yet but we want to keep it that way it shouldn't have an episode onab in Z says if someone has a sudden fever that's indicative of a problem and even though right now he's fine but if there's an indication is a problem he has to eat or drink what's necessary now the Pim say over 103 fever should be treated like a Sak and it has to eat at least unless of course he knows why he has the the the fever but a sudden fever is a suspect of a possible someone fainted okay so you know this happens on on chabas also so we're not doctors and we don't know but it could be an onset of a stroke or a heart attack now the EM I've seen this once someone fainted but he didn't faint he was very tired and he was standing and he fell asleep standing now if you fall asleep by his shair sitting so you go home well rested you have a good CH bias but if you faint when you if you fall asleep when you're standing which happens but he's fine so he's fine leave him alone you have to start Force feeding him or I want to make a I think it's a MIT when P someone has an upset stomach very often he's dehydrated dehydration causes fainting but it's not not necessarily a heart attack or a stroke so we we can't diagnose on the spot you've called for help and hopefully if they say it's not it's nothing more more than dehydration okay so that's good news but he needs the hydration he needs the liquid that's a case where usually does the trick and we hope for the best if you're not sure what to do so we'll soon see every suff is a suff because NE and you do call to make sure that there's no early symptoms of a stroke or worse or heart attack etc etc he has a with someone and now we undergoing treatment so he writes a I found it very revealing he says he believes so I was think you know we think to eat no no no we have to be so he says the person is because the treatment is weaken into the state that he believes would have asked him to to to fast and he would say to have now a a woman after child birth so the first three days says is treated as a yes and even if says I don't want to eat you force her to eat why because someone told told me this story about the woman had a baby a few hours before y so she asked do I have to fast goes I think so and she fasted the whole day that's the price you pay a few days after a after having a baby but we have to know the only question is interestingly enough this question of a with within three days of Y she has to eat does she have to eat sh so the em if they could do it they but typically a woman after child birth is very weak and then just to eat a little bit is teasing but here we see interesting says if you have that woman that insist I want to fast she's the one that says you make her eat such a woman she could take sh obviously if she wants to eat but a regular your Le after child birth that that one that feel she has to eat there's no din but then he brings a seems to be that a regular within 3 days that says nothing should eat regularly the says if she could do try to promp to do but you have to know the woman if the woman feels weak and again is very little so if she can't s sustain she does not satisfied with the then is allowed to eat regularly the three days that we're talking about is May so it's interesting shabas points out a woman can be M and all a sudden she she has a different status she goes from a to after three days to an a now what's the of a woman after three days of child birth so that says that if she says she's allowed to eat if she feels that she could manage then and she has to fast so again a woman could start fasting because that's when the three days it was completed now the P this the three days not when she went into labor but the actual ler that's when you begin the three-day period but what I found very revealing and that's a that we have to know because it's we have to know it says that from 3 to 7 it said I must eat give her to eat so we think okay it's unanimous she wants to eat then the doctor says so M no we're talking about a woman that says I must eat but a friend says you don't have to eat the doctor says you don't have to eat so why is because this is the concept of which is a but the take that sort of out of context you see see the real the but that a person knows themselves best the doctor saying you don't need it her friends that also had baby say you don't need it but she feels insecure without food she feels I must eat she's allowed to eat even after 3 days a tremendous Insight a tremendous message that a patient must be consulted that patient is not a doctor not a r but it's their body that gives the messages says says I must eat even if a hundred doctors say you don't have to eat you listen to the patient is an incredible even if they look fine but they could they trust them they feel they have to eat for some reason you have to follow the patient now this is again a tremendous Insight a message in dealing with don't Guilt Trip the well you don't really have to the what I say the best thing is to ask the patient how do you feel you are the one that's deciding it you the Moston so basically explain the concept that if you feel you need it you're allowed to cuz and they shouldn't feel feel guilty they have to eat if they feel they need it even if it's opposing the the opinion of 100 doctors now by the way a delivery after 3 daysa if she lives the baby there's no he to eat of course if there was a surgery a C-section that's like a regular surgery and a you to eat because like after surgery typically there's more of a in this regard no to eat muis of course at to to drink a lot before typically they try to fast if there's special considerations if they're they're expecting a multiple birth etc etc but basically mu and should fast difference the first three days and three days till seven days today we see we have a new sh people are old older is there any speciala for in other words in we find across the board under three years old every child is like is like a such a regarding we know that are doing well and they're fully productive and fully alive and fully you know full of is there such a CL regarding so the is if we find we don't find any place could be Tak the fact mentioning there result now you might say well typically an older person feel okay that could be but if someone knows he's in perfect good health I mean age appropriate perfect health and and after 26 hours of fasting he'll still be in good health fast but you have to make sure that again as we said you have to look at how will be after a long fast not right now that's clown number one is see how they are after a long fast they try to fast and they made him eat of course but he's talking about weak but someone that's healthy and he feels he could do it let him try of course we feel let him change now it might be a very painful question is a person that's basically good health but his mind is not functional he's diens alheim whatever it may be the K said the question is he wants to eat where's my my my my my breakfast he's healthy but he doesn't know what you tell him he doesn't doesn't register person could have an older parent that that has this demen all is and they want to eat breakfast why not give me to eat again a very painful question I Ser 24 someone asked him this question his father wanted to eat and the father was healthy he could fast but he didn't understand that so told him what he told him and when he left broke out crying difficult the sh that that a child has with a parent to fight with a parent and it's not tragic but is even giving a young child an Isa is the ISA of if the father's supposed to fast and and you're giving him to eat when he's really supposed to fast it might be to say that the person's a you know don't be too quick to write a person off has connotation he's not perfect the mind's not working but call you have to know so this is a very difficult question a very painful question but one thing I did see the seem to feel that even if there that's on on a go there's no so if there's an aid that's with the parent let the aid feed the parent to give the parent or leave the food that's accessible to the Father the father takes it on his own fine that's not is giving it has a very thorough cha in and he proves that basically there is in this situation but definitely these two ideas let the let the the non-jewish aid feed the parent give the parent or let the food be so available that the parent take it on their own that would be an to avoid any problem at all but important again like everything else work it out before you don't want to have the aid running to show what should I do he wants to eat make a plan of action what has to be done and like the ra says even if the father is abusive but remember the remember the that commanded us to keep it of aim I always think the message is when the father is not himself you have to see the in the father because that's still hooks to the is reminding Us in every parent no matter what their mental abilities are they're still the also another question that unfortunately is Nea today in too many situations when a person is again physically healthy but there's an emotional disorder anxiety depression bipolar etc etc they are basically they could live fully productive life they're healthy but they they must eat so again I'm not saying all these people feel they have to eat I just had a sh someone said I'm afraid to F I'm I'm not going to make it now they will make it but you can't reason you know you can't say just stop it they're worried so again there's no CL but the beginning of already speaks about R people that are worried about r Al P Al discusses this very question say even though from medical perspective they are healthy but if they are going to be worried about fasting and they're going to fast with all that anxiety that could bring so you have to know the the actual person the the actual situation but one thing I know you can't just say just don't worry it doesn't work and it means you're not understanding the the problem the problem is that it's not a rational problem it's an emotional problem a RV told me that a a person called him says RV you better give me a heta cuz now I'm eating without a heta obviously there so wor again something you have to understand that that it's not a rational problem it's just something that's their condition that's their sickness so probably more often than that they should be told that you're allow to take sh that's for sure if you feel you need to eat more than Shum and that's your condition then you could do that also my guess if you give them the Liberty they won't need it all cuz the real problem is that they're restricted they're confined they can't do it and they how they're going to do it it's the worry it's the anxiety if you tell them whatever you need you're allowed to do they take away the p and they're certainly much better off throughout the what do you do in a typical case a person the middle of the night wakes up he feels very he can't call a doctor now he can't call a r now middle of the night Milam kite actually you can't call anybody but what do you do when you have a suff and you can't clarify it so we know the cloud is but here we have two at hand so says beginning of if you have a is in other words we look at the suff and we make or maybe used to say not if you look at again on that both place the is a of we will be if a person has a suff how much you have to eat he wants to make sure you know he shouldn't eat extra so it's not don't get nervous and overly anxious and worried a little bit of a once you have a suff you allow to eat that at least basically you can't have the the this eating youra turned into a torture chain but that does know what to do if you have if you feel you might need it that's a suff suff in this case would be M the next part of the sugya is the pract Practical the stepbystep guide to shiur now let me explain basically means a person eats less than a what's the mil of don't we know that we less than the is still so what are you gaining by eating less than the the ter is an obvious because person eats a she on so that's more so that's an Isa of that he violated if someone eats less than the sheer so not only there's no because are only but it's not even it's the learns in that applies to so it's not it's called so that's definitely a very big reduction in the that's why if possible we try to tell the to eat now someone asked me a very good question since we learned especially last year we learned much more about that when a person is to eat is a Mitzvah to eat so why you reducing his Mitzvah let him eat like a mench there it say that's where plays a very crucial role because if you could avoid eating the full amount do that the Mitzvah is to eat as much as you need if you could suffice with SH that's your Mitzvah to eat if a person needs the full amount that's his MIT also but makes it to try to avoid the full extent of the is now but I want to make a point is not a it's a in other words you can't just you know people say have to take a pill I'll take a little bit water it's it's only a small amount it's when a person has a to eat if he could get away with then he has to be so is more of a than it is a but it's a very prominent because we tell better eat 10 times over better than eating once a full amount because that's that's the that's the of it's not and it's not a now what exactly is so again I'm going to make a giant step because we have a big agenda still basically to go through this we need a lot of time but the sheer of eating is not a k says that it's a which is a little less than a now to make a very long story short again we have to get to the point the say with all theas if possible eating a little more than than an ounce of food of volume is definitely still not the full sheer again this it's a combined but we try to stay with an ounce one one 1.1 oun of food of solid that would definitely be M now to give you a little example what 1.1 o is it's a very good example you take a slice of rye bread a scenter slice a regular Ry bread a qu of a slice of bread is a appra 1 o or a schnaps cup the Disposable schnaps cups they grab a little more they're probably 1.1 o but the schnaps cup that we that we use the disposables are just about 1.1 o so the volume the size of that like two grapes is a good example grapes is a a food that's full of nutrition but two grapes would be with f into that schnap scub if you could squeeze it in but that would be a that's definitely not the she on that should be so again the if need be you could probably make a 1.4 oun if need be I told you it's only a but if a person could suffice with an ounce of food and wait the amount of time will soon see that's the best idea now typically we are always and here also we don't we don't use the ounce in weight the the amount is in volume in size that's why you have to use a person has to eat don't give him a fluffy which is very little nutrition to it give him a heavy food again a grape is full of nutrition a food that has more more to it you get more for your money so to speak so basically the concept is to eat a 1 o of volume of F even if it's very heavy the I is it should not exceed 1.1 or 1.4 oun of value how much time you have to wait in between so the two AAS don't addir up because you eat one after the other it's one a so again a giant step the typical Shear of is between three and four minutes so it would be enough to wait to eat let's say two grapes three or four minutes and then eat more but since the minutes and one place writes said this even though it's a n minutes to eat a k to eat to eat a quarter of a slice of bread so here like like might be a but here it's going to be a so we try to do every can be so we tell the patient listen if you could do it the best thing is 1. 1 o or 1.1 o and wait 9 minutes he oh that's too much so better compromise on the time span cu the time span of 9 minutes is a tremendous humor if he could eat 1.1 and wait four minutes that's also good but better compromise on the time span than on the volume of the food this is basically if he says that it's not enough for me then we go back to the if you can't do sh eat regularly what's the about drinking on so by the way there's no difference between eating or drinking both are the same but in sh there might be a difference because drinking is not a it's not even drinking is again to make a giant step the can say is 1.3 ounces a little more than an ounce again a schnaps cup is 1.1 so a little more than a schnaps cup would be definitely less than the time span that you could drink your ounce plus and weight how long you have to wait so typically drinking is much less time than eating and but since when possible I stress that when possible on onip we try to be with all she and some hold that even by drink the shear is and once you 9 minutes is another so if the patient could handle it drink an ounce plus little more plus a little more wait 9 minutes if he feels I can't do that then you could go much less time because again is much less time than 9 Minutes even three or 4 minutes but again ideally take food or drink and wait 9 minutes if he feels that's much too more too difficult then the time span definitely can be compromised on but one thing I want to say people don't realize this telling a this is pretty challenging have to eat and stop and measure but when you tell the really if you have to he has to eat and drink you could eat and drink in the same time because all the but are not and are not tar so it it cuts the work in half get a less less than the sheare of food and drink eat it even together if need be wait nine minutes and then go on so basically the could be done together the time span works for both and then you start again whatever is necessary an important that's to mention as always if a person knows has a family member especially a parents is keep it of involved that has to eat make it a pleasant situation but it doesn't happen on yipa you have to sit down before yam kipa find out what's best for the patient again a food that's full of nutrition that's high in calories that's high in protein is much better than a bland food there's no difference if the food is tasty or not you allow to have tasty food as long as he needs it so you have to sit down with the patient and maybe a doctor might advise you what's the best for this patient but to take a bland food that has very little Nutrition a dry piece of Kala doesn't have the same as much as a a piece of meat or again grapes grape juice is a very a drink that's full of nutrition more than other drinks so know what's best that you get quot most for your money and before y ker you cut up whatever the food is into sizes that you know that's sh don't leave it to a patient on you K to start cutting and deciding a good son will sit down in advance of him kipa cut a pieces of food whatever it is put it in a bag wrap it up so it shouldn't get dry let it have some time for the person that should have a able to eat it properly and keep the a clock close by it's not so hard to keep timing of 10 9 minutes but basically it shouldn't be on a deal you know I said make the the sh ready to go but then I thought I have a better statement make sh so the parent is ready to fast because here's the beauty of the sug if a person eats a whole day sh they're still fasting they're allowed get ear why because they didn't they ate less less than the year so you tell the parent here you're ready to go and ready to fast ah you're eating a whole day but you're fasting so make it ready to go and ready to fast a more tricky question a person has to have medicine they're okay they could fast but they need medicine and to skip medicine unless the doy to skip the medicine so they could fast but you have to take medicine how do you take medicine this person can take it without a uh without water or worse yet some medicines has to be taken can't be taken on an empty stomach which is very problematic for Yip which both have an empty stomach so I want to make two points here first of all besides the problem of Yip there's also a basic issue there like shabas so person th has a a little of a headache you can't take Tylenol like is also like shabas but obviously if someone's taking medicine shabas is take medicine it's only pain so medicine is not a problem or someone has a severe headache and he's almost debilitated by the by the headache then you allowed to take that even onab so we're talking about that has no problem of the is but how does he get the medicine down SOA I should make a point some medicine today especially let's say pain relief are sugarcoated don't ask me why I guess the world of taste so that's an I'm talking about medicine that has no in it it's pure medicine so the swallowing the pill itself is not a problem if you could do with that water that's fine I am eating but it's not an but that's only if you eat something there's an why you eating it oh must be you enjoying it but there's no by medicine except for the because you're taking it not for the taste of it or the food of it but you're taking it for the medicinal benefit so if a person could swallow the medicine as it is it's fine there's no because he needs it there's no even the problem is when a person cannot swallow so again if it's you know it's really not that hard for a person to swallow a pill you know it's not so big but many people have it's the fear the phobia of it you they once remember 20 years ago they tried to swallow it and he started choking he went down the wrong pipe so some people you know if they practice a week before when you take your medicine try take without without water maybe practice makes perfect L if they could take the medicine with without with with the without the water it's better it's better to try but if they say I'm not doing it I'm not taking it so someone said wait just like in when you take medicine with with water you don't make a because it's not considered a maybe also that works but it doesn't work cuz now you enjoy the water espe if you're fasting so the the only is is if the water is PG now this something taught me to to to put it practically because it's not too practical because here you're running into a no win situation if you make the water P then there but how you going to drink it you know rabash say the a is put soap in the water tell an 80-year-old person drink this water it has some soap in it there nothing wrong it's not poison it has an OU it has a whatever it is it's not it's not dangerous no so someone told me you put salt in the water but that's not pgum someone told me maybe if you have a real black coffee or black tea That's POG I said who said people drink black coffee black tea so it's almost like a if you're going to make it good and P then they can't take it so I was thinking according to if there's an that they could drink the water cuz once he has the status of yes it's HRA and what needs for his condition is the medicine but if it's a regular aim by Sak let's say a person that has a very severe headache so he's an aim by Sak so we have a problem so he has to find an so what could be more practical take the pill itself crush it up and put it into the water that would make the water probably pugum but it's at least it's edible drinkable whatever the word is now here again try to crush it before yam was much easier but even if be there's no even though the whole medicine it was ready ground before when it was when it was when it was processed so basically try to swallow it as it is if not the a that's more practical crush the medicine into the water now today there are suppositories that might be an a because there's no drinking water some medicine today I to clarify this some medicine they have medicine you take it today and it works for tomorrow it's a it's a slow very slow release you take it one day it works for the next day that's a great idea someone has to take medicine if the doctor says you could take your pill before right before yipa starts and right after yipa ends no that's a good idea but to stop skip medicine on on on on one's own idea is not is something that should not be done person has to be faithful taking medicine properly I saw you let's say he's allowed to take medicine with a drop of water does it make it on the water because he's fasting and enjoys the water so he says don't enjoy the water and don't make a br I hope that works but don't forget because if he enjoys the water there's a suff of BR as well SOA again never skip medicine unless the doctor says you could skip it or delay it somewhat or push it off but basically when a person has to take his medicine let him take it properly what's really challenging when a person has to take medicine and it can't be on an empty stomach now here how do you get food in to make it a non-empty stomach so again if you could rearrange the the schedule take it before and after get a medicine that slow release is a great idea a suppository again the pis is not a problem but basically that has to take medicine and it can't and delay and he has to take it on with a little bit food again you have to on that if it's so the eating is part of his condition otherwise I don't know you know it's it's Pro to make the food PG is a perfect but you have to to make it work you know and to eat pug food is probably harder than drinking drinking goes down but eating now the one what's what's the so he said everything you know hand you give a head to someone's an aim by Sak and just needs medicine to eat food so again a suppository is an idea a slow release is a good idea if you somehow could wrap a little bit food with a tissue that might be but again some people find that difficult but basically when a person needs medicine he has to do homework before to know how in fact he could do it properly and the last group of questions is really a for itself but I want to make at least of it that's for us when someone has to eat on makes a person eats there's no he's not doing he's doing azah so you make a with the same as usual you want to say before you eat the food also good but if he eats regularly and he had a she regular if he eats it depends if he eats sh of drink so typically it's always less than so if he eats of food if it's a little more than an ounce so like the smallest sheer of it's but if he's eating constantly so one goes to the next one as long as there's no sheer eal in between he could continue eating one after the other when he finishes his regimen he makes a regular if the fact that you have to wait in between drinks is not a I mean really you're making a but you know you're going to drink more so all the can say the fact that you must space it doesn't make it it's one long and the from the beginning of the day continues to the end of the day unless of course there's a or real so theoretically drinking the whole day if he doesn't leave his home there's no and there's no she one goes for the whole day say you should wash regularly the whole hand because this is like regular because that's part of benching Kish is not said even if a person eats on even because they never Kish there's no is said if there's benching or why is it different than there's no but there so this is a a different type of daving this is Bening if he forgets y we don't repeat the benching but y should be said and the last question is about someone that has to that had to eat does he get could he get an Al we had a sh with someone was about very had to eat could he be about so this is a beautiful Su which we'll leave for a different time but that why can he get anah he didn't do a but the say that by get like most because but the liing on is a tinest ling he's not fasting therefore he could get an because it's a regular shabas Ling being B on a regular Tinus is a problem because the he's not saying but again I can't say all agree but most say but there's no Anu it's just that he has to be appropriate if he's an that must eat he's doing a Mitzvah but here's the good news if someone is eating sh even the whole day he eating sh he could get an alyah and D on the holidays because he did not violate his ESS and that brings us I think is the the most important attitude of all We Said Today and please listen good I think it's important to give over when necessary a person that's battling an illness his strongest weapon is his mood his mood will get him through the greatest Challenge and crisis who's going to help him in his sickness Dr he says these words who's going to help the go fight the sickness that's his mood the I can't overstate the importance of a feeling good about themselves every day of the year but especially on when they have to eat you know today in the medical world there is an alternative method that's not not more than that but they believe any any sickness could be overcome with happy therapy positive and you believe and and you okay I can't say you should you know that's necessarily the right thing to do but there's no doubt about that's a y concept when a person knows either he's a himself or they have a a family member especially a parent that's a it has to be done with great sensitivity and a that they should not feel guilty it should be a very pleasant experience they shouldn't feel like they're cheating the system they're doing something wrong and if it's if it made to to go smoothly it's much easier but is a physical understanding of the human body when a person feels good about themselves they could make it help we should all have be out there [Music] for thank okay ready I don't keep let's try to do the see how's the couple young couple how's the trip we're going to have for the I'm going to going to say a small little part bit of each part of the SH now of the okay just we learned today the importance of ESS again cannot be overstated but equally so the importance of maintaining health is has to be considered in every situation and basically we as we proved that Y is you allowed to eat what you need and then it's a Mitzvah and then you shouldn't feel guilty but whatever could be avoided that is should be avoided that's why if the person had enough for that day he has to stop even if he said yes that had to eat regularly if it's only drinking that he needs there's no he to eat so it's really juggling to almost extremes and only what's needed but what has to be done has to be done even with a person has to eat has to do it the concept of indicates that we try to minimize the is and 10 is better than one but but at the end of the day that we call it is not a if someone has no he can just say a little bit and then you know doesn't harm me a little bit is a problem clarify in advance not don't leave with the and the doctor would work together to know what a person needs it's preferable to get a from a doctor your that's sensitive to both the needs of the patient and the but basically there are two factors that even a might be allowed to eat number one 26-h hour fast might aggravate the situation even though now he's fine or he's lacking the to recover so it's we trying to be proactive to get him healthy and something he has to eat to get him healthy quick healthy a little quicker after a major episode they after a surgery you have to know the situation but but if person had an Aram kipa virus stomach Etc he needs at least liquid that he shouldn't be dehydrated kidney stones also liquid is typically enough over 103 fever should do something as the doctor but definitely something should be done fainted or dizziness you have to know where it's coming from but M treat it as if it's a before within 3 days eats regularly if they can handle sh some ho they should do that but Le na is the rule number one if she feels that she needs it even if a 100 doctors say you don't need it you follow the patient because the patient knows best a Zu if he's perfectly healthy age appropriately of course he could fast but if it's a question he doesn't know what's going to be the end of the day then you have to do what's necessary the painful question someone's unaware what's going on Dementia or alzheim is try to get them the food that they need but you shouldn't give it to them either a or leave the food available ailable if need be theyum even to give them food if that's what they insist and they won't hear otherwise an emotional disorder should be treated like a potential yes whatever is needed should be taken and given obviously a in any sh is in and that's the right thing to do a sheer is an ounce plus of food and try to wait 9 Minutes Mas is 1.3 o and try to wait 9 minutes but the 9 minutes is negotiable because that's you could be more m in both and it's better to be Mel in that than make in the amount of food the best thing is prepare the food what type of food and this amounts and cut up the pieces make it user friendly make it a pleasant experience that's part of medicine that a person has to take either he aim by Sak or he has a terrible headache and he finds it debilitating he can't function the medicine is not the problem taking the water is a problem and the water should either be P or try without the water is more had to take a little bit water but basically before y there are alternatives a person can take a suppository a slow release medicine that works 24 hours later take it every Yip but again these things has to be done in advance of Yip you make when there is a is regular there's no KES but there is and especially if the person is okay and is that the mood should [Music] be