Instructing a Non Jew on Shabbos - When is it Permitted Part 3 - Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner

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though it's only in other words you're now to go and tell a to do when there's no what are the examples so these two examples at least that I found in one inol when saying to turn a fire on however if it's dark you to tell a to move a candle from a different room into this room why cuz that's to move the candle so it's what's the it's light in the room you could have a suda and it's m so you're only allowed to tell the guy to bring in fire from a different room the Tilt moving it is telling the is also says the example if you need it a better example be is you have in the basement wine you need for shabas for KES it's pitch black so you let it you now to tell the go to turn the light on in the basement if not you can't see now to tell the even though if you're not going to be able to make KES even though Mitzvah n however to tell a to bring the candle from you upstairs so where you Su downstairs to see that's M that's another example another example in over here the same only when you tell the to is you can't tell a to be over what's the example by that to bring the baby so you tell a to bring the baby but which is only if you would do it to bring so the is only only and even if it means that you're not going to do theis you're not the if the baby's in one place and the knife is another place and the only way to get the knife over is to go over it's there's no Hatter there is no Hatter you now to tell the go to bring the knife over to the baby the baby to the knife but that it's going there another example it was almost n last shabas it snowed a little bit early shabas morning but it was just an inch or so by the time 8:00 either was gone or was a drop could you tell a to shovel the snow so could even be that Shing could be is not a they bring that the and he said that it's maybe it's just what they bring maybe it's that he's no a and it's carrying in a caralis that would be an example if it's AER be able to walk out to go to another two more examples to bring out and now we're going to move away from it's also but as we said in the first year that is not only to do any for you what happens if somebody doesn't have AER you don't have a shaer so you're allow to tell a to be for you as long as you're not being over he's not doing a means you can tell him go up on a tree which is the only way to get the to cut it off the animal whoever whever the would be to be over you won't have a you won't blower you only M only when you're telling the to be over if it's youou you won't do the bris on you won't blow that have more berries than the leaves is it's I'm sorry it's not you gotow to take the berries off if there's more berries than leaves that wasn't clear more berries enough it's more than the leaves it's pel but you want to take the leaves the berries off to be the berries that there more leaves we're not going into it take it off the berries to make theer what's about the T could you tell a to do it so would depend what's the ISA to take off the berries if it's m you can't tell a so you will not have you'll not have you're not going to have however if it's only ofing oh very good I'm I'm going to get to it later I don't have that's very good but the EM is that even when it's not in the case of of you're talking about caring is a good but another to to do but we'll get to that soon a little with good I like what you're bring up also telling the the GU to bring the baby now it's important to note that this Hatter telling a last year we spoke about telling a that he's allowed to turn the fire on even here it's only it's a what's the difference but is that even when is already it's only if he a it's not M it's not a blanket Hatter says bringing the baby on shabas through a carus is M right to tell a go not us we're all to do it you could tell a to bring the baby through a carus cuz it's you telling the go is Wonder the go carrying it in a car what's the joke because I'm saying that this this is only if means why you bringing the baby to make do the pr at home even it's to tell to turn the Steam on done it's only only when these so meaning to say is to bring the but why bring him to do it at home so it's different than the first the second has to be already speaking about it a lot of people do bring the baby to I'm not talking about what he with he's no so he's different says other people say that other other say you doing person's house and it's too squishy so it's called it just like we mentioned in the previous year that if the to tell the the does it it's m to do just like we said invol the is that if a GU does something for you that you couldn't have without him it's a to have but if he a of you just like we said he's allowed to turn the Steam on for you if he's allowed to do it over here you even tell before going on to other hatum of telling a to do on chavas again the het number two is not a het to tell a to do Mal it's only to do it's important to note though we do not like the but it's important to note and we'll soon see you could rely on but which is brought in it's but even on for Marshall you want to make a sud they got married Friday now it's Friday night it's pitch black you want to call a GU to turn on even without to tell a to turn on the fire it's m that's learns just like you could do even as well brought clearly already WR says dark we know the concept by certain so the brings of the early it got dark and what are you supposed to do to tell a to turn on the the lights you're not allowed to you're not allowed to but we don't like turn off that what you say off that's good good good you say now because of the because of I'm always to be dark now we make sure I don't think they I don't think said ask a GU to turn it off it's on a clock that it goes off but yeah the same way you can have a guy turn it on you shouldn't a guy shouldn't turn it off as well also so you might tell me goes very star is when the sun is going down it gets dark so what are you supposed to do oh so if you have the left you have the left what's what's if you don't have the left don't have the left you don't have the left you now to tell a go to turn on the left so either like we mentioned before you have to go bring the from the other room you have the with you bring in I mean if you have left you have left but if you don't have you can bring it from next door because only we don't like to turn on the the lights the fire what's going to be with the with the so you won't say it if you don't have the there's no hat there so what what comes out very clar if a person has a study with all the the light is off it's pitch black could you call a go to turn the light on the answer is absolutely not even if he comes and he do without you we know you can't be in the head of it you can't tell them so you want to learn Friday night for a few hours you have all your you want to learn and it's it's pitched black it's a it's a mitvah telling the go to turn on the light can you tell the go to turn on the light and you study to be able to [Music] learn what say good if it's only that's a separate it's but you're right if to turn on a light with if I think I don't think I don't think we go like that I think we go that it's maybe it's not considered fire I think it's CL oh very good very good we're going to get to that right now good good very good but first good we get to that and and the EM is that in like that good very good like mentioned even though we don't P like the eer what's what's considered over there gives one example is that the broke is broken it's broke they checked it before sh Friday night a tree fell down it's broken and people don't know they're going to carry that's called and you all to even call a guy and tell him to do to fix the for that was another some ask why is this different than the case of the what of of oh I'm not sure good what's what's MIT but good good good we'll get in a second very good very good I want to talk this but they ask what's the difference between that and can't to turn on the fire by so the terror is it's brought I forgot where but with a clarite maybe the they bring the over there by okay so you can't say the it's broken people going to be over even when it's not that you're going to be over these are you're not gonna have you won't have but he says that it's I'm a furthermore furthermore it's brought this is in TR that says that it's m to tell a go to turn on the lights to learn and later on they bring this in in um in the safer he brings on the bottom of the that they say same thing also that you L you L to call a go to turn on Friday night he say there b and it's dark you allow to call a go to turn on to say this is called to one thing one thing this is says the one thing is not that if you didn't turn on the electric because it's expensive SM the electric the you didn't turn it on and now you want to call the go Friday night to turn it on that's not called that's called you want to save money I'm not saying it's MES but that's called saving money that's not a header if the sh is the circuit went off then you allow to call but if you didn't turn on the lights and the because you want to save money till comes to learn at 10:00 at night why should I have the lights running for a few hours I call the go at night and it's that's not called yeah good very good good good good this I want this is exactly what I want to ask before of learning the exact same thing should be to turn on the light afternoon to turn on the turn on candles to be able to see also that's not called it's like what says doesn't seem as strict as means you need more get that much EAS you can get the ra forah saying to get what's an example of that's not a no no you have you have a meal of people need for the food no no cuz besides that it's a also has to be aah on top of the saying very good you have a get together not aah but it's a then on top of that if it's how you saying if it's only only it's only when it's good this has to be clarified more more about it even though as we said we don't like we said that you could rely the this still leaves more clarity we should you know see how to be maling it more but even if we don't pass like the but like what you mentioned before that to make it that it's not and I'm sorry says that you could tell a you could tell the to do it with a even if you would do it it's only you could tell a we're saying that we don't like and you can't tell a to do but you could tell him to do that means he's not doing so have like you mentioned also very good but if you can figure out a way that you're only going to do it it's to be going to get a will touch on in a moment to the the concept of what you're saying what but the answer is very clear even tell go to turn on a fire what does it have to do with him when he's allowed to turn on a fire the teret is you're telling him to do something what you would do is but if you tell him to turn on the light with the elbow so if you would do it it's only it's with so what you're telling him to do telling is with an elbow to turn it on as brings that the but it seems like says that it would be M let's try to cover a couple of more we'll see how much we could get through a couple of more in telling the go on shabas the next one is one second you have your Su boards outside then it's going to rain and it's going to get ruined so so if it's a big loss then you the yeah then you're allow to tell the go so here's another head another this is number four but this is before here what's about telling a go to tell a that that tells another guy about it it's it's too intense to go and could you tell a guy that that guy's going to tell another guy it gets very involving about ordering and you order something you want the thing to come on shab so really one of the it's it's a whole for itself ordering and it's going to come on chabas if you do tell them you don't tell them when they ship it but Al even if it would be a of they telling the go I need my package cuz you're telling one guy that guy sends it to the performance center goes from one guy to the next only if you tell the go he should do an for you if you tell one guy and thaty tells the other guy is so we have over here so far like this we have that was last year we have telling a to do and we said also maybe telling a go to tell another guy so far we have four now we'll get into number five which is a little bit like what you bringing before about what mean what does he have it's not a so as I answered youa that what the he's doing is a for me however however you have this happens I mean now the frigerators are set that always new refrigerators are set that the light goes off but at least some you have to used to have to put a tape but at least you could put into shabas mode you forgot and the light is on you're stuck you want to open up the fridge and the light is on so you can't do it no sh you can't do it why can't you do it cuz when you open the door it's not the is is it'sa by you opening the door you go the lie to go on it's Isa so you want to go and you want to tell the go to open the fridge door that it's m why he says even though for us it's because it'sa but for the go for the go there's no such concept of the if you're a fridge if forgot to turn the light off you could CL you could call the GU tell him do me a favor you can't tell him to turn off the light to disable the light but you could tell him to open the fridge what are you going to do afterwards you put a towel in a face you know that shouldn't close all the way but you can tell the go to open the fridge door even though when he opens the fridge door 100% the lights going on but that's AA a it doesn't Passa for the go gim by putting the food on the fire before the go turns it on I know all brings about [Music] it I want to talk R gim said because here brings it says says that says that he's not for a but that's the next of of you could tell the go you could tell the go to to open the fridge final the final hat for tonight is the hat to tell a go even in you could tell a go what can you tell a go you could tell a go being a that says that anything that's awesome is has to be even not a you're allowed to it's annoying it's m it's m we're not going into that Simon right now but one part of the is that you what what else is to tell to do so you allow to tell to do we're soon besides to turn on the to turn on even if it's not a it's that somebody that forgot to light n so he was able to go and to be we spoke about it can't make number five is a person could tell a to do any even because it's so just to sum up we have over here six to the not all but the six six number one is number two is number three is is you could be M to tell a telling a that's tell another to do when and lastly but just very clear and very important to note this is only a to tell clearly is only but the no matter what doesn't make a difference these never all these