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Inside Israel Today: Why Not Netanyahu
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Gil Hoffman interviews Stav Shaffir, who is second on the left-wing Democratic Union list and Yair Lapid, who is second on the centrist Blue and White list. They both tell him why it is important that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu lose the September 17 election. They both warn that if Netanyahu will be re-eelected, Israeli democracy will be in danger. Gil asks Shaffir if she regrets leaving Labor now that her current party is only getting six seats in the polls, and he speculates with Lapid about what would happen if neither Netanyahu's Likud, nor Lapid's Blue and White can form a government.
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you're listening to inside Israel today
with your Hoffman on the land of Israel
Network hello and welcome to inside
Israel today where we are less than a
week to go before our Tuesday September
17th election and we have a treat for
you on the show today two interviews
with politicians in a Tel Aviv area
I interviewed Stav Shaffir in Jaffa at a
cafe and then I had to go to the other
end of tel-aviv to North Tel Aviv where
I interviewed yalla feed the interviews
are not in the quietest place on the
face of the earth at this point when we
are sitting here we still don't know if
Benjamin Netanyahu will be giving
interviews if he will I will certainly
make an effort to make sure that my
interview can be broadcast right here on
this network in addition to being in the
Jerusalem Post
Stav spoke about how she would like to
see the election go and she appealed to
the readers of The Jerusalem Post around
the world her views are very solidly
anti Netanyahu and for many many reasons
and she explains in her interview why
she thinks that the country is headed in
the wrong direction and why Nettie meow
must be stopped immediately for the
country's own good you can see for
yourselves whether she persuades you in
any way
here is the interview with Stav Shaffir
from the Democratic Union Party that is
a merger that she brought about between
the far left merits party and Ayla Barak
and the Green Party an environmentalist
party that she left labor to join to
form this Democratic Union what's going
to happen on Tuesday so now he's going
to try to make a case
the cameras not just what we see his
strategy for this election is to create
appear it happened with the ban children
decisions that he made about people to
get into very important positions like
the State Controller ministers and the
people that they got into the ministries
all at a time where he is not an elected
prime minister he didn't get he didn't
manage to establish a coalition he
failed to build a coalition he failed on
with his steps in Parliament so what
he's doing now is to try to change the
law so to change the form of how
elections are being done and who's gonna
get the most seats how's it gonna go
what's your bid you know that's not a
question that I can answer because I
don't know knowing the 18th of September
what I can tell you is that if there
will be a low turnout it's very bad for
our democracy and if people will show
responsibility and go out and vote which
is the most important thing to do right
now and now not only voting actually I
ask people to also go and watch the
voting places because we're expecting a
lot of surprises coming from the liquid
party at the vote into it places so well
we need people to not only vote but to
actually participate and yes people
should cancel vacation abroad people
should if they live abroad for a few
years and they are actually their basis
in Israel they should come to Israel to
vote there are some post readers that
are citizens of Israel
around the world and they care about
Israeli democracy yes get on the planet
counter vote that's what people do when
they're really afraid for their
democracy they act they don't just write
comments in facebook they don't just
know Yale and how the situation is has
become so bad they come and act and
participate and that's really important
you remember how to vote in in Ireland
when Ireland had their national we
recall that the the national vote like
they were friend them about abortion
well you remember that a few years ago
so Irish people from all around the
world came to Ireland
to vote for abortions to be illegal and
and that was the campaign coming home to
vote you showed responsibility and even
when they spend you know a few years
outside of their country they care for
their country they care for their nation
so they come and they participate and
what happened here in the last decade or
even more is that people started to feel
like they have no possibility to change
anything and it happened because of how
the government actually happened because
of how the media acts and creates that
very cynical atmosphere around the
elections not even giving any platform
to talk about the content of what the
different parties offer you see there
was no debate definitely not a debate
with the prime minister who haven't
participated in debates for I don't know
how many years
that's definitely a decade yes so so
there is no debate there is no
possibility to ask them difficult
questions the whole tradition of
democracy has been even though you can't
make a prediction you see what the polls
say and they say not the ten seats that
it would Baraka thought when you put
himself tenth in the list but six five
seven okay then that's appreciating
these polls just a week before the
election don't they make you regret not
standing in labor and then an allowance
higher allowed to collapse because that
was what Labour was doing if I didn't
push and build the Democratic camp with
Barack in exam maybe one or two or three
of the parties on the Left would have
not crossed the threshold and the entire
left would collapse because of a lack of
responsibility by the leadership I had
to do what I did that was the most
responsible thing to do in the situation
that we were in we were in a situation
where because of really god knows what
ego stupid perceptions of what where to
get the votes from whatever that was
that was the kind of lack of
responsibility that brought us election
after election into a failure because
every time the center-left went
separately to the elections every time
2013 there were four parties on the left
and the arab list
we lost 2015 again three four or five
parties we lose 2019 again the same
thing but the difference is then in 2019
we saw we get the trailer for what a
parliament without democracy is going to
look like we saw that in May we start
tournament that is not democratic and we
saw where Netanyahu is going to lead us
he wants an Ardoin store key that
he's gonna do if he wins again for the
next few months it's gonna change the
law to stop Israeli democracy that his
goal I could not allow that kind of
thing to happen just because my party
really just because my blog or my own my
political blog is not behaving
responsibly so I had to go and do
everything that I could which included
leaving my own party and build a new
party and trust me whatever happens in
these elections the Democratic Union is
going to be the future Democratic Party
of Israel and every party on the left
and on the center left every party who
cares for a two-state solution
who wants freedom of religion in this
country and who wants a decent social
social economic policies will be part of
the Democratic Party that's what we
build right now labour and the other
older parties in the camp have they're
very important to store the rights and
meanings but the party of the future is
the Democratic Union you think you'll be
part of the coalition I have to finish
something else about this just a because
you asked me if he's going to take him
on Chrystie apart completely yeah he's
already damaged democracy very strongly
when he attacked for the last few years
attack the media and narrow down the
scope that the media is able to cover
today because he brought the media to
its knees in so many senses
with with the kind of regulation that he
pushed or threatened to push the same
thing he did with the justice system
including you know giving a yellow
jacket sometimes defines herself or Maki
in the sense of when people when people
call her a fascist she she uses it as a
joke but he's promoting actual fascist
or semi fascist towards fascist
legislation and indefinitely an
environment and so he heard the justice
system when he heard the media and he
went against citizens for their own
right to vote when he went to the 2015
who complain saying the Arabs are coming
in droves what he's saying is that some
votes are not legitimate and that's a
prime minister it's supposed to consider
and think about
what the entire nation needs and wants
even if we disagree with some of them
definitely not because of their base or
religion so he hurts the mother in two
weeks and that the entire system
nominating nominating a state controller
that is doing what he wants and not
serving the public I had to go to court
to the Supreme Court a few days ago to
push the state reporter to publish the
reports the Machine reports about the
government you know about that
the ones same thing with State Attorney
Attorney General so he's already
limiting democracy what he will do after
the elections he but the first his first
mission is to prevent himself being you
know standing in front of courts so
he'll do whatever needed including
limiting the ability of courts to judge
him
including of course limiting the ability
of Parliament to make decisions and the
first thing will be biscotti book by the
board's now scattered the books has an
influence on every part of our life
think about everything that's related to
human rights human health like a no
polluting factories for example there
will be today many of the of the biggest
environmental and health problems are
prevented by people who go to the
Supreme Court and stop or block a
government decision that was not
considering people's health when he
passes that that's it there is no court
to protect people so as the people from
assad's who had to be in court for
twenty years because of kale phosphate
surface patent in the Negev or as the
people from Haifa who suffer from
enormous pollution because of the
factory is there or the people who
protested against the gas infrastructure
all of them are not going to be
protected by court anymore they will
stop and cut any kind of regulation that
will block the biggest steak wounds and
companies from usually today keep the
biggest victims and companies from
hurting people's lives so it's not just
what we call its corruption and we look
at what Bibi is doing if that's only the
narrow part of the biggest pig the
bigger picture but how can you do
anything basically doomed to be in the
opposition why is that something that
the media continues to sell we don't
want you and and then they could say
they don't want blue and white in the
government so maybe blue and white
strategy is wrong
when Nathaniel says that he's gonna do a
government against blue and white and
blue and white continues to lag
Netanyahu to get into his government so
the bit is a big mistake here is doing
like we built the volcanic Union in
order to change that paradigm that the
central F is constantly going and
dragging a right-wing government to
share some of its power with it we don't
want the right-wing government we want a
left central left government we want to
democratic government who's your cool in
my I just want to imagine any real
elections they couldn't blue and white
got the same amount of vote you remember
in a democratic in normal democratic
country what happens when the Prime
Minister is not able to build a
coalition it has to go to the President
and pass the mandates to Bennigan's he
didn't do it illegally so we got into a
very expensive very dangerous election
because of babies decision because he
knew that Bennigan's is able to build a
coalition destroyed you so the same
thing like yourself
everybody who agrees to the basic
grounds that I just described to you
two-state solution a border for Israel
between us and the Palestinians a state
that takes care of its it is not in
terms of increasing social services
expenditure investments sorry and a new
decision about the status quo I know it
is still very very groundbreaking are
you looking for the awards
so think about that for so many years
parties were afraid to touch the status
quo and the status quo became a block
something that freezes Israel because
we're unable to make decisions about say
the plan in three four sentences
basically it takes it says not the
government it's not for the government
to make every decision of our religion
and state is supposed to be local
authority and the best people to make a
decision about what they want in terms
of their you know it's very personal
your marriage or god forbid divorce life
barrier that there are so many issues
that are so intimate and I decided today
by the central Orthodox authority while
I respect people in my block who don't
want public transportation in Shabbat
and I believe they should respect me we
do want to you know visit my friends or
family and prefer to take a bus to get
to get to them because I don't have a
car
so what we did we put as a what now I'm
giving an example but I prefer to not
use a car okay definitely and in the
city I Drive when I'm not in a campaign
I prefer to cycle so what we're saying
in this plan is that local
municipalities will make a decision
about everything that's related to
religion States so the today the
religious what you call that religious
councils in municipalities have an
overall budget of a billion point one
circles a year the local government with
a referendum will decide the people will
decide if they want
I really just council if they decide not
to have the Religious Council the money
from the religious campaign in Tel Aviv
for example I think it's around 30
million shekels but you should check me
and in other places it could be more or
less
the people will decide where to take
this budget to with a participative
participatory budget system which means
that not for that that's not forever
friend oh that's the station of local
neighborhoods they make they create a
process what I call it's like in public
discourse with the municipality or the
neighbor who decides what's the thing
that they want the most maybe they want
affordable housing maybe they want a
music center in their neighborhood
whatever they make a decision so they
suddenly they have a budget of like 10
million shekels to decide what to do
with it and that increases people's
trust in the municipality and in their
government because they they become part
of the decision making process and it
takes a lot of the money from that today
is over a billion shekels that today it
goes to something that you know most of
the citizens don't feel it's influenced
into something that they feel feel
foreign that is useful for them when it
comes to marriage again referendum may
be high for one civil marriage renee
blatte maybe not it's okay if you want
to get married in a civil marriage you
can you don't have to go to Cyprus you
can go to - same system about divorce
same system about public transportation
and Shabbat and so people get their
voice to make the influence on the most
important issues for them and I truly
think that this is the way you know of
course there is another side for that in
Israel one of the biggest discourse that
comes to attention point every elections
is ultra-orthodox army service and it's
a fake discourse the ultra-orthodox
leadership doesn't want it always
creating big chaos
the army doesn't feel that they need to
get more orthodox to serve it's actually
much more important to make improvements
in women's service than to push Morgan
500 morals Orthodox the army and it's
much much more important to get the
ultra-orthodox community into the job
market but nobody's paying attention to
that it just it's a really nice and
populist campaign to go against the
ultra-orthodox for not serving in the
army and so every party is getting into
that what we're saying in this program
is live and let live they don't have to
do the army they should go into civil
service and to give to their own
community or to other communities and
and they are able to combine it with
their studying if that's what they want
but the most important thing is to get
into is to get a job and to start and
increase the economy within the
ultra-orthodox community and when it
comes to every other decision it's
people's right to make a decision about
their own life can't be part of any
coalition that you're part of even in
the post Netanyahu era who from that
equipment which which of the I don't
know all of these people who are today
are silence about what Netanyahu is
doing to our democracy can they be a
part of a coalition I don't like what's
the difference does a collaborate today
with the destroying of our democracy by
one person who wants to escape because
we want to escape jail are they they are
collaborating they take the risk the
baby is gonna sell Israel for its own
needs and and they use and participate
in corruption even if you know
personally they are not corrupt and are
not there are no allegations against
them but they collaborate with
corruption and and they're not the only
ones
you know if they'll decide to quit we
couldn't join the same Democratic camp
so maybe in the future but they should
change their ways because for the last
few years they show the complete lack of
responsibility towards
Israeli people cuz baby is doing
everything to escape prison he's going
to annex the territory snow to escape
prison if you ask me a few years ago if
baby is going to join annexation of the
West Bank I would have told you I think
I told you that there is no chance of
that happening he knows that there will
be the end of Zionism because we won't
be able to keep Israel as Jewish and
democratic with 2.7 million Palestinians
as part of Israel there is no way to
defend our security when something like
that happens so I didn't imagine that
baby will go for it but now if there
will be his key to escape trial he'll do
everything he will sell Zionism for his
own needs right now
and that's a risk and the fact that he
is breaking apart the mccr attak
institutions is something that I would
expect every sane and decent person in
the Likud to go against but I don't see
anybody except for Bernie begging the
only person who decided to say something
and anybody else they just Ayers they're
silent and they are collaborating with
all of these votes and all of this
racist talk he had a member of
parliament from his own party just
yesterday talking about you act you
heard that racist talk in the committee
and the Minister of Justice and the
person who is now the the Justice
Minister is sitting in front of him not
saying a word like it's okay it's
accepted in the liquor that kind of talk
that should embarrasses every it should
embarrass every Jew there was an editor
who decided to send me questions for you
let's see but just to get that so we
have you have AM welfare minister who is
under allegations you have healthcare
minister under allegations you have the
former head of the coalition same thing
you have a Minister of Culture who said
that people who are refugees she
compared them to cancer you have and and
she when she dedicated her entire
turn to go against artists and a guest
for the freedom of Arts that's the kind
of people you have in the record what
are we supposed to agree with them on
and why are we always going and people
from our camp like blue and white go for
that endless compromised what do they
want to compromise with them half a
democracy because they don't want to
democracy we do we'll we'll settle it on
on half a democracy what half annexation
half enforcement of every religious law
in our schools what that compromise
means that there is not Israel anymore
we can't compromise the most basic
foundations of our country so we need an
alternative government and that's a
center-left government there's the video
this week where they put in the audio
instead of saying hi to BB they put in
death to Robin and you're in the video
of that party you're familiar with the
scandal of what there's a video we set
out yesterday what that one from the
demonstrations and you can see on yeah
they weren't saying that there are
in the demonstration that you can see of
course there are videos from there you
don't know the videos from You captain
they weren't saying yes they did you
have to watch the film
yeah me me no I'm just it it's a film
that baby is trying that will not be
published before the elections but I saw
it in the Cinematheque it's about the
last year in Robins life and it's from
the point of view of Academy that shows
all the process before he assassinated
him and that and you see and it gets you
back into all of this the demonstrations
were beefy as the head of the Opposition
was the leader of the incitement against
ravine and then instead of realizing
just after that when I'm sure the baby
didn't want not being to be murdered but
he led the incitement and if after were
been assassination BB didn't do the
obvious responsible thing and say
incitement is a threat to democracy and
things like that should never happen in
our country and instead of growing and
recognizing the the fact that his
political rivals are also Zionist party
already admitted that they doctored the
tape and put in something it wasn't said
there I mean but there was that wasn't a
demonstration they were all shouting hi
to BB and they weren't saying I have it
a person or to show back I don't know
lights they're the masses were not
saying death to Robbie that's not the
message but there are groups in science
and after rubbing
everybody knows this video can you
explain when you're so focused on
transparency why you had a problem with
the cameras in the polling places I'm
actually four cameras in everything
that's related to the government I want
every meeting of Netanyahu and the state
the Attorney General to be documented
with a camera
they had dozens of meeting personal
meetings with no documentation no
protocols
nobody accompanies them it's the only
time in Israel's history where the
Attorney General and the Prime Minister
under investigation are meeting
privately so many times alone so I want
cameras to be retro ethics right retro
how do you say that Network a different
place in their in their meetings
I want cameras to be placed where the
government makes decisions about laws I
want cameras to be placed in every
influence that the Prime Minister will
face illegally is doing on the elections
when it's not supposed to serve the
liquid elections but to serve the
country so there are many places where I
as a former chair of the transparency
committee would like to put cameras the
liquids is not interested in
transparency that's why their first
decision after the elections in effort
was to shut down the transparency
committee that was my ten years decision
they cared for transparency and decency
and to fight against cheating they had
like 200 years to prove it
that's not what he cares for he put that
bill on the table a few days before the
election you know to create chaos
he knows that within a few days there is
no possibility for the government to
to prepare itself for an objective
overseeing of every vote in places by
the way I am for that I would like to
have cameras in the county in places and
I wanted to broadcast to a central
website where every citizen will be able
to see the county every station
definitely one brother centrally but
what they try to do is not to do that
because they know that it's impossible
within a week they wanted to have access
to dozens of LaHood's activists with
cameras that will destroy the ability of
the people to go and vote cleanly and
without fear just remember that a few
months ago they bragged about them
lowering down the Amato from the error
vote because of their camera trick so
they try to amplify that and the other
usage of that was for baby to be able to
say you see it's you know the justice
system it's the media tournaments that
try to prevent a clean clean election
and that's something that he wants to
say after he will lose the election he
will have an excuse for why he lost then
later on last night Netanyahu won fact
the Iran issue and then later on Donald
Trump said he has no problem eating with
her Fleming has Netanyahu as he said it
saved it
Israel's diplomacy with America or are
we seeing a start of things going in the
wrong direction I think that's one of
the most dangerous things that happen
right now Prime Minister using a real
security threat for his own political
means during elections using
intelligence information using the
security forces for his own political
needs before elections is a very
dangerous thing we remember what it
David 2015 elections when he for his own
political means created the biggest turn
between the big the biggest tear or the
biggest yes yes between the two parties
in America around Israel when he went to
Congress to give a speech behind Obama's
back doing damaging the most important
relationships that Israel has with its
closest ally with the United States I
think for so many he never hesitated to
hurt never hesitated so hurts our
strategic interests for his own campaign
and the result of what we see today on
but the both ones there is difference if
we're talking about israeli-american
relationships we see that within the
younger generations and today also with
American Democrats who most of them love
Israel and care for Israel but we see
how we managed to distance them from
Israel within a few years making every
possible mistake
and the other side that we see is what's
happening with Iran and it is a very
unknown situation right now
because Iran is a real threat on Israel
and it's using its its power today on
Israel's border inside Lebanon in Syria
and
creating and encouraging terror and of
course continuing to progress their
nuclear despite this because what he's
doing is not what you're supposed to do
if you actually want to fight a nuclear
Iran and we said that long ago when
there was a negotiation between the
states and around the Iranian deal we in
the opposition said the Iranian threat
is threats to all of us and there is no
opposition in coalition in that we
believed it would be B's government
should do is to go and collaborate with
the deal-making and make the deal better
for Israel and safer for Israel that's
the most important thing that we have to
do right now but but baby did the
opposite yes my last question and you
know when it comes to this it's not
about us and baby it's Israel's future
security needs and we can't allow a
nuclear Iran to happen it cannot be and
the way to deal with it is you know
there is the security ground to that and
the results of the diplomacy track that
is not less important if not more at
these times and the way to do it is with
the United States and with Europe and we
have to you know to get them on our side
last question you see if Netanyahu and
Donald Trump remain in power and the
election happened now
United States another year where do you
see things heading for Israel's future
no Israel should be in the best contact
possible with every American president
and at the same time it must be in the
best contact possible with every with
the two American parties we should never
allow Israel will become partisan issue
in the States and sadly it's going there
and we have to defend both of our
nation's from that kind of result
because the connection between Israel
and States should be a connection
between the people of Israel and America
and that should be above any political
discourse when I'm not going to
influence American elections okay it's
not my position to do and with every
American president we have to work with
what we have to do in the Democratic
side is to go and start protecting and
fighting for our values because when I
see you know we just establish the
Democratic Party of his realm it's only
natural that we will have very strong
connections with Democrats all around
the world who understand that we have to
stand and defend the Balearic values
globally in front of right-wing populism
and what I see that people sometimes
don't or still I mean they see it but
but but but they're afraid to do
something about the the the right-wing
populist leaders work together all the
time they help each other in elections
they echo each other's voices they share
resources and they they push you know
conspiracy theories all around the world
to help their political causes while
Democrats and progressives around the
world are not collaborating you know we
have
enormous spreads that are global it
climate change that we have to tackle
together it's the Green Deal that we
have to fight for globally what's
happening in the Amazonas is all of our
problem what's happening with climate
changes is our global problem and and
that's within the responsibility of
every nation we have to push for it
together and right-wing populists are
trying to say that this is not a problem
so we have to understand it we also have
to fight them together and when it comes
to global peace it's also our global
responsibility when I see Democrats you
know dealing only with domestic issues
in their countries I think it comes
against our own progressive values
because being progressive is also to
take care for each other and to take
care for the global society
understanding it today with you know
growing freedom of movement we see more
and more moves between countries more
and more global citizens but regardless
of that we have responsibility to make
the world better and making the world
better it's influencing is creating
global understanding around how we help
refugees around how we tackle worlds
around how we create you know how we
fight stronger and hardship weapon
around the world and and also how we use
social media for the better and for a
better democracy and not against
democracy as sometimes it happens so we
have all of these global issues and
global challenges to solve to do that we
have to work together and when it comes
to the israeli-palestinian conflict we
need we help the international community
to push for better incentives in a
solution to help those who want peace on
both sides to get stronger and be able
to actually manifest and fight for peace
and when I see we talked about it before
like how the BDS is eventually hurting
the efforts of those
one piece because it's only distancing
them fast and it's creating more and
more fear and it's being manipulated by
the right to push more people to the
right and it helps those who want to
separate between us and those and not
those who want to connect us and
definitely not those of us who want
peace so that's exactly I'm pleading to
telling you the syndrome of how
Democrats are not helping each other so
my call is for Democrats globally to
start and work together much more
closely if we want to fight against
right-wing populism and if we want to
save our democracies all around the
world because democracy is being
threatened it's being threatened
threatened on so many fronts these days
the only way to fight for a better
democracy is to do it together
that was Stav Shaffir who is the darling
of the israeli left and her gamble in
forming the democratic union will be
tested in the election on September 17th
she might have made the mistake of her
life or she might have made an
ideological choice that furthered her
ideas we shall see after the break we
will be airing our interview with higher
lipid who is number 2 in the blue and
white party stay with us
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in the first place the Jewish people
have been yearning to return to their
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and we're back here at inside Israel
today here on the land of Israel Network
on the land of eternal calm where we are
continuing our series of interviews with
the number two candidates and parties in
the center-left Orly levy does not speak
English she's number two in labor Gesher
that leaves only Stav Shaffir number two
in the Democratic Union and yalla peed
in number two in the blue and white
party so you heard from Stav Shaffir at
the beginning of this broadcast and now
you will hear from Yair Lapid in an
interview that's focused on speculation
and not only what can happen on
September 17th but in the elections
aftermath here it is described this
country in four years if Netanyahu wins
on Tuesday Jonathan Franzen wrote that
we live in an era in which hatred he
came into thin
if you know will be the famines in the
coming years
Israel might become an ardent life
pretending to be a democracy in function
I think the institutions that hold us
together beliefs
opposition media and the commanders of
the army will become part of the pop
culture instead of the beating power to
power
and I think
we will be singled out in the world as a
country which made division includes the
final action that made the vision its
divide its defining nature
yes some worry I was never worried and
this is why I'm doing what I'm doing
this is why I've established
why we need to win this election and I
want to say something else I wasn't like
them I always I was contempt to the fact
that the Israeli left has always
screamed you know the end of democracy
the end of democracy I felt that this
was exaggerated this was being I mean
they looked to me like something
happened to him in the last couple of
years
explain me with the rotation okay how it
works if we could infer might have
department government together hmm
we're talking to post Netanyahu air
obviously we're not for many dollars
Anthony ow who was not a follow-up
question he said I own for the same
reason I'm not giving interviews about
what's going to happen after the
election wait see this is speculation
this is the deputation or this is
commentary all of the above is your job
not mine I am out there trying to win an
election change the country and right
now this country coalition is both games
right now is work on a puzzle that has
no picture
did you make him aware of my theory
ladies you're immune this is what I
think is gonna happen I'm very honestly
telling everybody about it many guests
are gonna hear the chant first chance to
form the government because there's been
a switch 20 seats toward him 10
Lieberman from Netanyahu to family when
it comes to recommending to the
president and 10 of the joint Arab lists
from no one he gets the first chance to
form a government and he fails when I
started with him and he said that he's
harassing what happens when you win when
you get this chance to form the
government said that's when the
ultra-orthodox are going to back down or
I'll be willing to sit with the I repeat
and then we will consider but Lieberman
them to be kind of snickered man the
person next to him hahaha what if we
didn't want to argue about that one okay
so he fails to form a government then
that's analogous that changes not only
that we failed to form a government
during those six weeks from the
beginning of November
I did a speed I said you know beginning
of November to mid-december when the
attorney when the state's attorney
Nissan
finishes his job they want to have the
indictment by that he gets indicted so
then the liquid will have to have a snap
election I don't know whether it'll
still find out during those six weeks
during the time afterward and the
loophole in the law that allows them to
not be an election yet that allows the
Knesset to then unite behind the new
candidate
Sam who's learned a lot about this
loophole everybody's going to be talking
about this boot nobody's going to want
to go to the lecture so then they'll be
a Boris Johnson regulation we Boris to
power by having an election the
conservative party that immediately made
him the leader that's what's going to
happen here in the league bush
I still think there'll be a rotation
that blue and white will get the second
part of this firm because it's still not
61 cents on the right then again
Lieberman to join them and they couldn't
before so maybe they'll say they don't
leave you in every Lieberman will no
longer yeah agenda cuz I think I would
be gone but the leader of the loop would
form the government and I wrote this on
the plane on the way to Netanyahu's
meeting with Boris Johnson okay but
they'll be neither an irony in
retrospect that he decided to go there
out of all the places she could have
gone with canceling in Japan South Korea
and India wanna okay
you just moved from journalism
scriptura really yes but there's one
thing that I can at least relate to in
this very compound version of reality to
describe is the fact that not only that
I think I was right so I know I know so
that within liquor then I like that
little now drag them into a third
election and they're now why is he
putting all the stones there quick
shift we really cool so it's gonna be
you never you know who are the players
it's going to be given some annually a
distance like not so fast all those
people are going to come and say enough
is enough
they are already saying this they say
this to you as well during nights so
it's one of those things that first
everybody was just whispering about in
the beginning mouth 3ds recommend move
those potential leaders is acceptable I
mean each and every one of them these
are these are acceptable people
I've worked with them before I can find
cats by the way I don't think it's gonna
be part of the organized he's not gonna
stay in college but not one of the
extent I believe it is all the potential
leaders of leak food others and
Netanyahu are acceptable yes the ones
whose knowing that seniority oh this is
my work it's the my words your accent is
better than mine
I like baby who has made made it into a
habit to try to eat the fever into other
parties I'm not telling you cool who
should give them I'm just telling them
we are not gonna work with Netanyahu and
I'm telling you they're gonna tell him
you're sorry that you have to step aside
there's one thing we do
president he's gonna call and it's gonna
tell you go and try to find the
government and therefore the one and
only important thing right now it's
beautiful
it's not the recommendation of the car
departing is the largest party probably
because this is it
it's a pity maybe here there's a bit of
speculation but it seems like nobody's
gonna have a clear 65 so if nobody has
clear majority then it's gonna give it
up for the one you most important thing
is for all of us to be the largest party
anything else Oh everything else right
now is through speculation this this we
know if you are voting for labour or
from trafficking you just join a voice
or a no power to be told
you got it in it's not actually true
anymore but no it works because the
Lieberman factor and I'm an o2 factored
into the application it made the
coalition building and the
recommendation to the president be
entirely different things and that
coalition to Rivlin is a coalition that
cannot exist in real life because it's a
coalition basis not a coalition of love
you have hate you have it this is a
quick lesson in politics but not to you
because because obviously you know too
much about politics do you read
eventually politics is simple it's not
complicated
what what's going to happen is the
president is going to look at the
numbers he's going to say who's the
largest party and it's coal is going to
call the leader of the largest party to
say go for government and then we'll see
this is how simple it is everything else
is just because they like me
she's join us for part of the campaign
trail you've been in this sea of Cougars
with disabilities in Beit Shemesh every
day no one else so you know physically
we don't even remember anymore how is it
not to be in campaign and since you have
to write every day then you are now in
speculation number nine hundred thousand
seven hundred seventy six and pie and
therefore you are you must be if you
human you are no you would all of you
know the simple facts of life the simple
fact of life there you go and try 45
seats on the right they've got me with
the fiber there and then you have last
express buffets about each other which
was fascinated second most interesting
thing in the entire campaign after NASA
was the press conference for the Foreign
Press without that season that it
happened to attempt where he said we
know we're not joining the government we
want to be part of a blocking majority
and this is how the work they'll have
their 55 and they'll come to us there'll
be nobody else who want to join you will
say fine
don't keep you in power but that costs
money to 64 billion shekels over the
next 10 years really very important
cause of Selvig of infrastructure how
much is this there is a problem I've
started and I was fine I'm asking a
question and then it becomes a
complicated Alaska governmental plan
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anyway I understand the question there
but you don't you leave it out enjoy
meeting
can they be part of the I am Telling You
I am but at least you have asked
question about something like this is it
okay to have a coalition with the
airport is it okay for them to be
supporting a coalition and keeping it in
power from outside I have no idea what
are your strengths I'm just telling you
you don't form a good it happens or it
doesn't
you think these questions are speculate
their life no they're not they're not
the pure speculation I tell you
something else the Arab citizens of this
country have real problem it needs to be
addressed
there's huge problem of violence became
the Arab sector that is not being taken
up they are not being taken care of this
is there is a huge problem in education
and there's a huge problem of
infrastructure especially now and all
these issues needs to be addressed and
we're going to address it because they
are real and and the fact that the
country no this is no more political
speculation that expected so the comp
plan yeah when he was asked about the
Trump plan he answered him I know
something you don't know kind of way he
said I don't know but I've reason to
believe that immediately the problem we
have right now is that baby was trying
to tell us all
the theory that he knows how to get
anything from Tron right now
president Trump apparently is openly
trying to negotiate with the Iranians
directly this can't be good for the
Israeli interests various areas are
probably Republicans who said is that
the outside I think I think I think
there's only one thing that really works
for the Iranian and this is the
sanctions and when they make an American
an American president is meeting with
them too many people might feel that
there's a hint there about lifting
sanctions which besides so you wouldn't
you're against the middle yes I think I
think you're attacking Netanyahu the
right on Iran for the first time on top
of this we don't know much even though
we know some about the front line but I
can tell you this since the reservation
the land was good for Netanyahu
it was probably published four days
before the election that's gonna be bad
yes so is the rate a week left before
the election to publish no they're not
gonna publish it before they announce
the new population so what we see here
is that the legend
you're going to the story
a few years what is the question I
didn't ask them but you wanted me to
actually as a message to the world and
to the readers of The Jerusalem Post I
want I want considering loaded blue and
lighter or maybe another partner I have
a message for them its sense of
something that might sound very small to
the regions of there is about 350
million that was missing and the budget
for kids with disabilities in this
country did no one is government cares
about this government that has just
passed 11 billion shekels to walnut and
help all the natural partners couldn't
find 20 million shekels to open the year
of kids with disabilities this is why
I'm running for office because this is
the disgrace and this is a government
that lost sight of what really
prioritizing is they are selling this
country away because of the denounce
legal issues for his immunity is giving
them everything they've asked they've
been blackmailing me like crazy
and there's no money left for kids with
disabilities so this is why we need to
change we need a change in this country
and this is you know what hundred times
more important than anything we'll just
discussed in this entry that was your
lipid number two in the blue and white
party who you never know if everything
goes his way could be in a rotation for
prime minister if Netanyahu loses the
election bad you never know this has
been inside Israel today here on the
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Israel calm and we'll speak again next
week as our election takes place thank
you for being with us
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