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Inside Israel Today: An Arab View of the Election
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Mtanes Shihadeh, the new leader of the Arab party Balad, speaks to Gil Hoffman as part of his Meet the Candidate series. Shihadeh explains why an Arab party has never joined a governing coalition in Israel. Gil talks about his recommendation for how to choose a party on Election Day: Looking at the candidates on the cusp in the polls.
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we can't eat pop of Occupation our
people who can't be part of that the
mission of the Palestinian house in
Israel you're listening to inside Israel
today with your Hoffman on the Land of
Israel Network hello and welcome to
inside Israel today here on the land of
Israel network on the Land of Israel com
where we are exactly one week away from
the Israeli election ladies and
gentlemen it is really happening
we're finally getting there there's even
weather reports and the weather reports
say that it's going to be a beautiful
day on election day it's going to be
sunny it's going to be in the nut in the
60s it's going to be wonderful and we at
the Land of Israel Network and at the
Jerusalem Post of course have been
following this election very closely and
have been informing people around the
world about what's going on and in the
case of the radio in particular about
who the candidates are and so we have
been on this show on inside Israel today
little by little introducing you to many
candidates as the over the last 10 weeks
we have had one candidate every day for
the last ten weeks from 10 different
parties and the way that we ended the
show last week was that we said that we
didn't really know who we were going to
do on the last day and here we are on
the last election show before the
election and so I asked should I
interview someone from an Arab party in
it got a lot of listeners who wrote me
very nicely that yes I should and so
then there was the question of who would
we interview because one thing that we
have done is we've been interviewing new
candidates
the kadosh / tile party has new only one
new candidate in a realistic slot his
name is / cacif he is Jewish and very
controversial and we wanted to interview
an Arab and so instead the other list of
Arabs running in this election is called
ha da is called the United Arab List /
ballad the united arab list is a muslim
party and bala is an arab nationalist
party in the last election ballad was
led by jamal zahalka and by Haneen Zoabi
both of them decided not to run again
and so they have a whole new list of
people that you have never heard of that
I have never heard of they have names
that are difficult to spell but they we
are going to learn about them and so
today we have on our show the leader of
the ballade party his name is Matt
honest Shahada and we will be speaking
speaking to him after the election
excuse me and we will be speaking to him
after the break now before the break
though what I wanted to talk about was
how over the last week or two
I've had many friends and acquaintances
and even family members tell me I have
no one to vote for what can we do
there's too much mudslinging it's too
dirty people don't want to have the
candidates that have that have been
mudslinging going back and forth and
they want to have somebody clean and
they are trying to figure out how to
vote in this election and so the advice
that I give people is you need to look
not at the leader of the party you need
to look at who is on the cusp in
the polls I recommend people go into the
website of the central Elections
Committee assuming it works Beth Lee
road b ec h AI r OT dot gov dot al and
you can then look at the list of
candidates of the different parties that
you're considering and see who is there
on the cusp so randomly selecting
parties not revealing anything about
political views in any way let's try it
okay the blue and white party has in it
many people that you've heard of at the
top been against higher lipid bogie
alone and Gabi Ashkenazi but they're not
gonna be the people your vote goes to
your vote will go to the people that are
in the early thirties on the list so
let's see who we have here because right
now latest channel two poll here had
them getting 32 seats who is number 32
Eitan Ginsburg a10 Ginsburg is the
former mayor of Raanana and he was a
member of the Labour Party for many
years and he was the first out of the
closet gay mayor in Israel let's look at
who's number 33 you have got a year of
our Khan Gardi of Archon is an Ethiopian
activist who was a former memorably
could and randomly could for Knesset
number 34 and 35 on the list happen to
also be gay you have their eden role who
is the head of the gay caucus of Yesha
teed and you have a fellow named your i
Lahav hertz a new who is the head of the
israeli union of students number 36
moshe moots matt alone is a former head
of the IDF's
handicap union and he was a member of
Knesset with you LBT knew of a big door
Lieberman
going further down because no one poll
shows them getting as much as 36 let's
look at number 31 isn't or leaf Romina
who it was a member of tell him of moshe
allen's party number 30 is a former
member of knesset of isha teed name Boas
topper offski okay let's continue
playing that game a lot of the parties
are on the cusp so we don't know whether
they'll be entering the Knesset or not
so if you Moshe Coughlin's cool on who
party they have a member of Knesset Roy
Folkman over there right there on the
cusp you went to Harvard was a pretty
outstanding parliamentarian in the
outgoing Knesset the new right party of
Naphtali been in a new yellow chick ad
Carolyn Glick former columnist of The
Jerusalem Post is right there at number
six they're getting six seats in the
polls
the is a hoot party of Moshe Feiglin
they right now all the polls are showing
that they're getting in and so you look
at who is number four on the list is row
need drawer who we interviewed here
couple weeks ago on inside Israel today
and activist for men's rights number
five is a woman named Libby Malad who
comes from the left and is there in Fay
Glyn's party she's the expert on
education and on school vouchers and
number six of shy Malka who is the
director general of the party and has
been very close to Fay Glen for many
years and his views are certainly very
right-wing in Lily could you need to be
looking at that list to add who's there
on the border yet number 28 right now
they're getting 28 seats in the polls
over there you have Sharon Haskell the
Knesset member from the Likud over the
past couple years who was born in
Toronto who was raised in Australia and
represented the Jerusalem Post a very
nicely at the debate in Raanana that I
covered and as she has been interviewed
here
the Land of Israel Network by mr. Josh
hastin let's look at all who else is
here on the cusp number 29 is a woman
named Michal Shearer who was an
assistant to get on Tsar number 30 is
Cathy shiiit who is an assistant to near
Bar cot and to you Sorrell cats number
31 is mullah patine who is a Druze
activist number 32 my Golan is she was a
a right-wing activist who was one of the
speakers in the pro-trump
rally and number 33 is Uzi Diane who is
the former deputy chief of staff of the
IDF who we interviewed in our second
week here of meet the candidate on
inside Israel today so you know tough
decisions people have for this election
and but be a smart voter you know people
have been asking me for platforms come
on
parties don't implement platforms very
few parties have even come out with
platforms and and they're not gonna do
what they say in them there's an 80 page
platform by blue and white don't believe
it there's a 300 page platform by is a
hoot it's 300 pages there he's not
running for prime minister it's not
gonna happen maybe he'll get two things
done let's lower our expectations here
for our politicians the Likud hasn't
come out of the platform in 15 years
because the platform really is whatever
Bibi decides to do that's the way it
works in Israeli politics if Netanyahu
was gonna continue being Prime Minister
his non platform will continue to govern
us and so with all due respect to those
who want to vote on platforms that's
really beautiful and really naive and
for all those who are voting on how I
like the sky who leads a party your vote
doesn't go to him your vote goes to la
Javert siano or to Lula Pettine keep
that in mind when you go to vote on
Election Day after the break we will be
speaking to the new leader of a loud
mr. doctor Matata strata stay with us
remember always said President Franklin
Delano Roosevelt that you and I
especially are descended from immigrants
and revolutionists we look for a younger
generation that is going to be more
American than we are now I don't know
that I could say I'm more American than
FDR but I can say that I'm a descendant
of immigrants and I've got more than a
little bit of the revolutionist in me
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and we're back here on inside Israel
today on the Land of Israel network on
the Land of Israel calm we have on the
line Matan Escada the leader of ballad
Matano snake for coming here on inside
israel today thank you please tell us
about yourself
my name is the panacea shadi I was born
in another 8 in 72 I study my first
degree in economic and international
relations at the Hebrew University in
Jerusalem I finished in 95 and then I
have my Masters in Science University
and after that a PhD in the hidden
University in political science and I
was specialized in political economy I
am married from Manali Rohan shadi
she's a social worker I have two boys
and one girls
I live there now in 3fh in caramel
mountains nice to get to know you
okay thank you why are you entering
politics you you have had a relatively
relaxing life why would anyone want to
go to the Knesset exactly before my
politics official official career I was
in metal chemist center in - I was the
academic manager of research centre but
since I remember myself and I was a high
school even I'm politics I came from a
family which was there any political
actives my believe in politics
our life is politics I will study what
we study what we learn our
infrastructure housing everything is
politics to the Palestinians in Israel
and my father was also active in any
political party he was also a pointer a
pointer and so it was I think it was
normal to be him for me to be in
politics I started my politics active I
said in the high school after that in
the university when I started to the
first degree
I was politically active I was addicted
to the Arab student commit in the Hebrew
University and after that I continued
invalid a party since 1988 I was
officially a member in Palestine
National Democratic assembly and I was
all the time political activists active
academic active I involved in my Society
in the particular situation and all the
problem so I think it was normal to be
in the politics in the end of of in this
stage of my life and college so please
tell us why the ballade party the ballot
party has a reputation in Israel for
being controversial with the leaders
than they've had in the past like Azmi
Bishara jamal zahalka and Haneen Zoabi
in Basel ratas why ballade the unique
party and atmosphere of proscenium
Israel that became with the beacon
camera a our political platform is
unique to a Palestinian situation of
status in Israel because you are mixed
between the national rights of the
Palestinians red as the minority
national minorities and the homeland
people and the Democratic side we said
the Palestinians as a national minority
will have a protected right we have a
collective right in our identity our
history our relation to our land our
country so we need all we demand this
rise from the state freestyle and beside
that we demand that Israel must be a
democratic state a normal state as an
estate in the world whose
a democratic regime but a read
emphatically regime we demand Shiva on
equality for all Israeli citizen or a
decent citizen who lives in this state
and so I was our man it's Yanni it was
especially all have a relation for our
national for our national status in
Israel we are not speaking about
economic problem all as the Communist
Party who said that all struggle is mama
Dee Messina Mahdi Mahmoud status where
we are not poor because we are poor are
poor because we are Arabs we don't have
a resource because we have added not
because we are poor so when you have the
national demand we have national
identity and when are the only party who
demand in this field our national demand
on national identity collective right
national collective rights what was for
me and nationalists it was normal to be
in this party and I think we have our
political platform can in all can make
our life pickle ethical tea and Israel
so I have always wondered if you want to
make the lives better of Arabs in Israel
why doesn't a narrow party ever agree to
join a coalition that's where they
divide up the spoils I can understand
not wanting to join if Netanyahu remains
Prime Minister but if somebody other
than Netanyahu becomes Prime Minister
then I don't understand
why not even when the Labour Party has
been in power the Arab parties have
always refused to join the government
and it's not people are hurt by that
no it's easy question we can't be part
of a few patient part of the occupation
our people we can't be part of the
Domitian affair Palestinians house in
Israel inside this way we can be passed
in healing our nation if and we're in
the government as a collective salute
responsibility yes you have if you part
in that coalition you have collectively
responsible about the policy about the
outcome of the policy we can't we did we
can't discriminate against our people as
part of a gentleman so it's a very easy
problem problematic but in the state
where different the regime change and we
speak for example a state of all the
citizen if you can then we speak about
the part of the government but the state
will be different there will be no
occupation there will be no
discrimination will be no killing no
house demolition no you know that
atmosphere would be different in the in
the situation has right now no other
party can be part of the coalition
besides I think also the tradition party
Prime Minister he won't be able to have
a Arabs party in the coalition to
limited might in the Israeli society so
there is a condition if you want to be
in the coalition that the older regime
must change thank you very much for
coming here is a very very active thank
you
shukran shukran shukran young that was
Matar Estrada the leader of the ballade
party and they are also right there on
the cusp
there are polls that show that they
won't make it in we will see and that's
what makes her democracy is so exciting
and it's been a pleasure taking you
through 11 different parties here and
our meet the candidates series on inside
Israel today next week it will be
Election Day I don't know how I'm gonna
tape a show it'll be a busy day maybe
we'll do it the day before
no we're gonna try to figure that one
out
but or maybe we'll take you around like
we did when we had election day last
time when he ran for mayor over here
when we had elections for mayor we'll
see but this has been Gil Hoffman inside
Israel today on the Land of Israel
network on the Land of Israel calm
Shalom from Jerusalem