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Hello everyone and welcome back to
Inside Art Scroll where the books you
read and the people who write them come
to life. Today I am privileged to be
joined by Ellie Beer, founder of United
Hotsah about whom a brand new book 90
seconds has been released by Art Scroll.
Ellie, what a pleasure to have you here.
A true honor. Thank you very much. It's
really exciting to your name and reput
reputation precede you. So many people
know about what you've done. They may
not know your life story, which is what
this super book by Rabbi Nakman Seltzer
is going to do. is going to let people
in on your background and your
story. Right before this interview
though, you were mentioning something
fascinating that when you were coming
now to America from Aritis where you
live, you had a real life moment of
meeting someone who's been impacted by
your work. Just before we get started, I
was so taken by this story. Tell tell us
a little about what happened. So, Hashem
sends me ways of motivating me to
continue the work and I was coming to
the states now just yesterday and in the
airport I come to the counter of Alal. I
give my luggage and the woman says to
me, she sees my name. She says,
"Hatalah, United Hatella saved my
husband's life a year ago." I said,
"What happened?" and she says, "I live
in a little kibbutz in the south of
Israel in the negative and my husband
suffered a cardiac arrest. A young man
all of a sudden dropped dead. I called
for an ambulance and before I turned
around 90 seconds later, a volunteer of
United atella by the name of Gonen shows
up with a defibrillator and starts
performing CPR on my husband." She says,
'We all crying, seeing our h our my
husband, our the father our k of my
children is is lying there on the on the
floor with no no heartbeat and we're
praying and all of a sudden a few a few
minutes after he started CPR and he
shocked him with a defibrillator, my
husband came back to life and 50 minutes
later
50 minutes later an ambulance shows up
and if it wasn't for the United Hotel
volunteer who showed up in 90 seconds he
wouldn't be alive. So I asked her, "Give
me the name of the volunteer I want to
call him." And thanked him for what he
did. We have 6 and a half thousand
volunteers, but they need to hear a good
word, too. So I called him up. He was
crying when I called him up. He couldn't
believe it. He said, "Ellie, I saved
lives for many years. I'm a medic from
the army. I was a soldier in the army as
a medic and now I'm volunteering at but
I was
traumatized 25 years ago exact to the
date February 4th
1997 I was a medic in the army and the
worst accident happened two helicopters
crashed up in the north next to
Kratchmona and 75 young soldiers
perished I couldn't save anyone I was
there running from one soldier to the
other and I couldn't couldn't save
anyone. I was crying for months. I was
traumatized and I decided to start
volunteering and saving lives and I love
doing it every day in Atsella in United
Aut. But this man that I saved that you
calling me for this is a neighbor of
mine not far from me. I got to him
within less than 90 seconds which is
your vision. And when I saved him, I
realized it was the yard site of the 75
soldiers, 25 years for the for the
assaim, the tragedy of the helicopters.
And when I s when I heard this story, I
came here and I said, Hashem gives me
these stories all my whole life to just
keep me going to fill up my battery,
right? And I love sharing these stories
to motivate other people, to inspire
other people. Well, you are an
inspiration in the sense that you as as
really one person, you had a vision, you
had a dream, you also had the
determination to bring that dream to
fruition. And we we don't know how many
lives your efforts have sold, but it's
have have saved, but it's it's, you
know, it's it's an in inestimable
number. And uh you're you're you know,
you have tremendous to your credit for
doing so. But let let's go back to Ellie
Beer as a youngster. Where did you grow
up? Who impacted you before you came to
that important juncture in your life?
Well, I grew up in Uranim. I was born to
an American family. That's how I speak
English. And my parents were Americans.
My father was Rabbi Gabriel Beer. My
mother Kaya beer. And I had six brothers
and
sisters. Um when I was six, almost six
years old. There was a young boy. Uh I
experienced one of the worst experiences
anyone could experience, even an older
person, a terrorist attack on a bus in
Bvagan where I grew up, not not far from
Color to Yeshiva. Mhm. A bus that was
coming into the neighborhood on a Friday
afternoon. The number 12 bus blew up on
the bus stop. Six people were murdered
and over 50 people were injured. And I
was looking at the people on the floor
that were laying there and screaming for
help. And I was just a little boy. I
couldn't do
anything. And it impacted me for many
years. I was thinking about what ever
happened to that old man on the
floor. Did he survive? What happened to
him? He was screaming for help. I
couldn't help him. And I was always
thinking if I could have helped him,
maybe I would have saved him. And I
decided one day I'm going to save
people's lives. Wow. That's quite a
young age for for a child to process
that that those types of images, right?
I mean, well, I grew up near Yadvashm
and I used to go to Yadvashm frequently.
I used to spend time there looking at
stories and reading stories and looking
at pictures of Holocaust survivors and
and seeing what the Nazis did to the
Jewish people. And I always said, "If I
was alive, I would help people." Mhm.
And I heard my father tell me stories
when he was a young boy growing up in
the Lower East Side. He would raise
money uh in Vad Hatsala then. Oh wow. As
a 10-y old boy post war 1938 my father
was raising money to save Jewish souls
from the Nazis. And I said if I was
alive in that time what would I do? And
then when I was during that time growing
up, that period growing up and
remembering that incident with the 12 12
bus blowing up, I always said one day
maybe I could save people. It was always
my dream to save one life. Mhm. Talking
about how many lives did I save? I don't
know, but I know I saved at least one
life and that was always my dream. And
then um that opportunity came when I was
15. And what what happened at that point
that you were able to finally bring your
your dream I mean you're only 15 years
old 16 years old what happened at that
point that you were able to to actually
put it into action
so you know I wasn't the best student in
um you know I I don't know what maybe
ADD ADHD and other things dyslexia a
little and uh I was always looking for
things to do And I saw a sign on a
tree. It was like these signs that you
have to pull out the piece of number,
the number on the bottom that if you
want to become a EMT, they have a course
for yeshiva boys during the summer. Uh
the city of Jerusalem did it and I and I
registered right away and I said, "This
is my opportunity now. I'm going to go
volunteer as an in an ambulance to save
lives." What what did your parents think
about that at that point for you to do
that? Actually, my parents were very
happy. My father was thrilled when I
told them. I just found a way of I
could. My father knew how much I wanted
to save people. That's all I cared
about. I mean, if you would give me any
other thing like you say, "Oh, you go to
space. You want to go to space?" No, I
don't want to go to space. I want to
save a person. I was thinking always
about what if I would have done
something when I was a boy. And I said,
"Maybe now I could save someone." And I
went to learn. It was like a month
during the whole bayazman I was
learning. And the end of the Bayman, I
got my certificate. I This is my first
certificate ever. Wow. I don't think I
ever got a certificate in school. That's
cool, right? I was going to say your
story really is encouraging. Not every
kid does well in school. We know that.
Not every child who makes it through the
school system is an A+
student. I forgot what the what the
saying is, you know, be nice to your BNC
students cuz they're the ones who are
going to come back to support your
institutions later on. There's some kind
of saying like that or save you. Yeah.
Or that's exactly the point. Someone
like you who may not have done well
academically, but you had a fire burning
inside. You really did. And you knew you
were going to make a difference. You
just weren't sure how. That's true. And
then when I finished the gradu when I
graduated and I became officially an
EMT,
uh I was sure the next day I'm going to
save people's lives. It was no question
in my mind. And I was very
disappointed. I was so disappointed when
I joined an ambulance and I
realized how it's not so easy to save
people. Mhm. And I realized that
although people think an ambulance saves
lives, volunteering for a year and a
half in the back of an ambulance, I
realize it's almost impossible. You help
many people. You people who are waiting
for you and are breathing on their
own, they could wait and you get there
and you help save them, but you're not
really saving them. You're you're you're
helping them get to the hospital, right?
People who are not breathing by the time
you get there, they're brain damaged and
you can't save them. And if you do save
them, they die a few days later. I said,
"What's going on? I'm in an ambulance.
I'm doing CPR like we're supposed to.
We're doing
resuscitation. We're getting to really
bad car accidents where people are
laying there. We're getting there with
an ambulance and we're not getting them
back to life."
And this happened over and over. People
were calling saying, "We spoke. We when
we got there, they were screaming at us.
We just spoke to him. He was talking to
us. What took you so long, but it wasn't
our fault. We were fighting traffic, the
distance. And people don't realize it
takes you two or three minutes to get
into the ambulance
cuz if it's late at night, so the the
ambulance crew are sleeping because they
are union. You have to get up, get
dressed, run to the vehicle till they
get to the scene. And that's probably
without traffic cuz I usually that's
that's not even an issue. So what well
how did how did you end up in the realm
of how did that happen? Well, we didn't
have any at Israel then. Atella operated
in New York, right? Hershel Weber
started that. Um but what did what was
in existence at that time in Israel?
They had an ambulance service. They had
a ambulance service. Public or private?
It was really a private non-governmental
organization, not government. Um, only
one, Mckendome. Then, today they have a
lot, over a hundred ambulance companies.
But then it was like one ambulance, they
had maybe nine or 10 ambulances on call
in. So, if one ambulance was bit, all
the ambulances were busy, they would
call an ambulance from outside, maybe
she or another city nearby.
uh and it would take time but even
there's ambulances in the city they were
all stationed in one place. Mhm. So
imagine to
yourself before Uber, you would call a
car service to go to the airport and
they would say, "Okay, you'll be there,
the taxi will be there in 25, 30 minutes
if you're lucky." Same thing because
ambulances would have to come from one
station. And we would sit in the
ambulance station waiting for the
emergency calls. And when we got their
call, I remember as a 15-year-old boy,
it was 3:00 in the morning. We got a
call in Gilo, which is in the other side
of town right next to Mar
Cro. And we get a call, a lady called
for her husband not breathing. And it
was a freezing night that the the
driver, ambulance driver who was a
worker, we were volunteers, was
sleeping. So we had to wake him up. He
had to put his shoes on. He had to go to
the bathroom. And we he was rushing of
course, but he got to the ambulance, he
forgot something in the in the room. He
forgot his cigarettes. And I had to go
get his cigarettes because how could he
operate, you know? And I was thinking, I
was a kid. I went crazy. How could this
thing happen? But I that's that was like
a normal routine. I run. I get it. It
took us two or three minutes to get out
of the station.
We get on the road. It's takes 15 20
minutes to get there. By the time we got
there, this man wasn't breathing. We
started
CPR. And after 40 minutes of work,
another ambulance shows up with a doctor
and he says, "This man is not alive
anymore." And this happened over and
over. And a year and a half after I
started volunteering. I had a log on. I
used to write down every emergency what
time we received it and what time we
arrived. And I realized the average
response time was 17 minutes. Wow. Wow.
But they you couldn't complain. That was
one service. That's what happens in
every country when you have one service
of anything. So I was in my back of my
mind I'm thinking how could we make
things better? And I always said if
someone is not breathing, if a kid is
not breathing, why don't they stop the
radio broadcast? They only had one
station on the radio in Israel then.
Mhm. Why don't they stop the station
broadcasting music or the news and say a
little boy by the name of Schlomma
Zelman is not breathing now. He lives on
in this in this neighborhood in this
neighborhood. Could someone run to save
him because an ambulance is coming from
the other side of town. I was thinking
about it. Uhhuh. But I knew that it's
not going to happen. And then we had an
incident that changed my life.
It was a it was a Thursday and we we
were in Harat Topi Mount Scopus which is
next to
Romatesko and we get a call while we
were cleaning up the ambulances after
the ambulance after another
incident and on the radio on the
walkie-talkie the dispatcher of Mendome
says to the driver are you available to
take a call it's like a code red like a
code
one a child not breathing
and he said, "Um, I'll jump." Yeah. We
ran into the ambulance. He started
zooming to Bagan, which is the other
side of town, right? Fighting traffic.
They didn't have the bacon road. It was
very difficult. Took us 21 minutes to
get there. A child, seven years old,
choked on a hot
dog. His mother was trying to save him,
but she couldn't do anything. Another
neighbor came and spilled a whole bucket
of water on him. So, we started doing
CPR on a freezing cold, wet child.
The mother was hysterical. She was She
said, "Why did it take you two hours to
come? You murdered my
son." And we didn't murder the son. We
just trying to get there fast. But we
were the only ambulance available in the
city. And after about one or two
minutes, a doctor who was nearby saw the
ambulance that came. He ran to help. And
he came up the steps of top floor of a
building. And he said, "I'm a doctor,
ER, doctor."
and he started performing CPR with us
for almost 45
minutes. And after that, he said,
"There's nothing else we could do. Just
bring a sheet to cover
him." And this was the worst feeling in
my life. I never felt so bad. In that
moment, I realized that a doctor was a
block away, but that whole time, he
didn't know this kid is suffocating to
death. Wow. And how do you know if
someone would have let the doctor know
earlier, he would have saved them for
sure? People are not supposed to die
from choking. There was easy techniques
you could save them. The him but people
have to know about it. And the problem
was and still is ambulances keep their
secrets from others very much like Uber
would never share with that someone
needs a ride and they don't have a car
available. Right. Right. And that's how
it works with ambulances. They keep the
information inside instead of sharing it
with everyone like screaming for help.
Like an ambulance system should scream,
"I'm on the way. I want to transport a
live person. Please respond."
You're saying it's like it's like any
other field of endeavor where there's
competition and everyone's kind of
possesses possessive of their knowledge
and and and you would think in terms of
saving lives that there would be more of
a community I thought so to save to save
lives and I realized after being a year
and a half in the back of an ambulance
that it doesn't happen.
ambulances when they get a call, it's
not only in Israel, it's everywhere.
In Iceland, when an ambulance gets a
call, they send an ambulance to the
person. They're not going to share with
everyone living around respond to an
emergency. So, I said, I want to start a
service that volunteers will respond to
calls before ambulances arrive. Not to
replace the ambulances. God forbid they
need ambulances, but to fill in the gap
between the emergency happening until
the ambulance arrives, which could take
17 minutes. And my goal was to get there
in 90 seconds. I said, 90 seconds is the
time you could get to someone and not
only save their life, but prevent brain
damage and organ damages. And I went to
the It was obvious. I went to my friends
and they all said, "We're in. Let's do
it. But the problem is where do we get
the information about a child choking?
Who would share the calls with us? So I
decided since I was a volunteer at
Mcendome I will go to the head of the
station in Jerusalem. His name was Kim
Golik. He was a wonderful man but quite
a tough
Israeli person. He was you know it's
it's controlled more or less by a union
and by a organization. It's a
hundred-year-old organization. I went
over to him and I told him my idea and
he didn't like it and I tried convincing
him. I found myself very fast outside.
He didn't like it because he felt
threatened. He didn't feel threatening.
He he thought it was a joke. He said it
doesn't work like it doesn't work like
that anywhere. Go to France. It works
like that in France. Not in France, not
in England, not in Scotland. It's not
going to work in Israel either. When
someone calls for help, he must get
someone with a uniform with with, you
know, with the with the, you know,
organized ambulance. They can't just
have random people running out to
emergencies. Who's going to supervise
insurance? You know, you have many
reasons why not to do anything. And I
was like, I had a dream to save someone.
I was sure he's going to love the idea.
And he he said, it's the stupidest idea.
And he said, you're wasting your time. I
will never forget. He said to me, "You
look like you need something to do.
Don't do it
here." You'll see in the book I I
describe that whole situation. Sure.
Sure. But it wasn't He was a good man.
He was really a good man. But you didn't
take no for an answer. Even though you
were a young kid. I never take no for an
answer. Maybe that's why you're a master
fundraiser also, which you do for
United. We'll see. Because at the end of
the day, you're Ellie Beer is a person
who looks at the end goal. You're a
person who looks at the end goal. You
want to get there and you're going to
get there one way or another. If it
wasn't with his help, you were going to
get there with someone else's help.
Exactly. I I I understood he's not going
to want to cooperate with me. He's not
going to want to share information. All
I wanted is if you get an address in
Raatk in Bagan in Sanhedria, wherever it
is, if you get an emergency of someone
in trouble, just send us a beeper. you
know, these pagers, this is the address.
Go respond. If you get there, you get
there. You don't get there, you don't
get there. It's not an obligation. We'll
get the volunteers to to get excited
about it. We'll get them equipment. Just
give us the emergency
knowledge. And it didn't happen. So, I
decided, you know what? I don't need
your help. I can manage on my own. And
he was smiling. And I knew him from just
volunteering there. But he was he didn't
mean bad. I I actually think about a lot
about him. He's not alive anymore. He
was a good person. Like years later, he
became very close. We became close
friends. But I went I said, "I'll manage
without you." And I went ahead and I
decided, what's the best innovation we
ever invented in Israel? Israel invented
many things, but the number one
invention we invented was a thing
called that was us. That was maybe it's
American or Jewish American.
Um, and I went ahead and I uh I got my
friends to adopt the idea. I had some
money left from my bar mitzvah. I was
actually traveling to the States. Uh,
and I went to a Radio Shack in
Brooklyn and I come in there. It was
like, this is the place I love the most,
the all these walkie-talkies scanners.
And and I picked the best two
scanners and I bought it. $700 it cost.
And uh I had to sneak it into Israel
because it would it wasn't allowed. No,
it's not allowed. They wouldn't let it
through customs. No, they would catch
it, take it away. And that's how I
started. I had an underground operation
center. So you recruited some people to
volunteer. And how were you responding?
I mean, the book describes it, but how
do you at that point responding to
calls? What what was the what was the
process? So the process is we had
volunteers who were we had two
walkie-talkies. So we would share the
walkie-talkies between theelves. Okay,
you'll be on Sunday, you'll be on Monday
listening into Mind Vadum's operation uh
uh radio. And you would hear an
ambulance dispatched to Yafo number 76.
Someone's having a
stroke. And we would right away send a
pager. They had these walkie talk pagers
that you actually call a number. you
would dial in a number and say an
address and the volunteers would hear
it. They wouldn't even know what it is
for. They would just run
and get there. Mostly um mostly, you
know, volunteers who came from the firm
communities were all from volunteers and
they would run right away and some of
them were using bicycles, cars and
undercover more or less and start
treating people. And 2 days after I
started becoming, you know, involved
with this, uh, everyone got hooked up to
it. We had 15 volunteers, very soon 20.
But the first emergency that I responded
to was a man who was hit by a car right
next to my father's bookshop, Sporum
shop. Um, my father sold forum since he
moved to Israel.
He had a bookshop in Vagan, right? In
Bagan. Yeah. He sold American books. Uh
he sp he sold English books mostly and
he sp he sold for him. And I underground
I would sit there and listen in my
father's basement and I hear a call of a
man hit by a car and it was up his 45. I
was up his
50 and I ran holding the walkie-talkie.
No medical supplies on me. I had zero
equipment but I knew what to do. And
like like Superman, I run there and
people were surrounding this person on
the floor and I saw he was injured all
over but he was bleeding from his neck
and I told everyone anesh I am an EMT
and they all moved aside and I I kne
down and I I said anyone have a bandage
here to stop his bleeding. No one had
anything. I didn't have anything. So I
took my yamaka off my head and I pushed
it in. Wow. into the wound to just put
pressure in and to stop his bleeding.
Just like this, holding it in as much as
I could and slowly slowly he stopped
breathing. He stopped bleeding. He was
still bleeding on his own, breathing on
his own, but the eventually the
ambulance arrived and they put a bandage
on it with my yamaka on it and they took
him to the hospital and I wasn't sure if
he'll survive. But two days later I get
a phone call. Someone says, "Are you
Ellie Beer?" I said, "Yes, this was in
my house." He says, "My father was hit
by a car and I heard you were the one
who came to save him. He woke up this
morning in Adasa
hospital and he would love to thank you
for saving his life." So I started
crying. This was like winning the
lottery. This was the best feeling in
the world, saving a person. It was your
your dream. It was my dream. After one
and a half years volunteering in the
back of the ambulance, I finally saved
someone on the
street. So I I went to Adasa hospital
and he gave me this greatest hug I ever
got in my life. Old man. He was around
70. For me it was very old. Today it's
like I'm getting close to it soon. But
uh he was uh an older guy, very pale,
very skinny, and he was injured all
over, and he gave me a hug. It was the
best feeling in the world. And then he
said, "Thank you for saving me." And
when he took his hands off me, I saw he
had a he had a tattoo here with a few
letters and numbers. Wow.
Blue tattoo. I will never forget seeing
that tattoo for so close and I realized
I just saved a Holocaust survivor from
Awitz and how easy it was. And then the
doctor comes into the room and he says,
"Are you the boy who say stopped his
bleeding?" I said, "Yes." I was very
proud of myself. So he said, "I have two
things to tell you. First of all, he was
on
couadin, which is a blood thinner. And
if you didn't stop his bleeding, he
would have been dead in two minutes. So,
you did the right
thing. But he says, "If you want to be a
hero, buy bandages. Don't put yamas on
people's wounders wounds. Use that for
putting it on your head
for And I decided maybe I should buy
bandages. We only had radios, right?"
And that's how it started. And later on,
jumping ahead in the story, you made
another innovation besides for the idea
of creating this volunteer service which
ultimately grew and expanded and create
you created your own entity, right?
Eventually it you you took on a name
United and you had to have that
registered with the authorities which
not an easy process. There were a lot of
naysayers, a lot of people who didn't
necessarily like what you were doing,
right? people felt threatened and things
like that but ultimately you created
this entity but the innovation that I'm
referring to which is somewhat related
to the name of the book is the ambio
cycle that was really a gamecher was it
not definitely I mean one of the the
game changer was the idea but the tool
to get to the game change was ambcycles
and it was so obvious for me I would see
as a volunteer in the back of an
ambulance
I would see motorcycles in line passing
us from the right and left delivering
pizza. Uri's Pizza had a motorcycle.
They would deliver motorcycle deliver.
The falafel guy would deliver falafel.
We would be stuck in the traffic to go
save a child who was in
suffocating. But the pizza guys would
get there right away in between the
cars. Sometimes they would go on the
sidewalk just to get there fast. And I
said to myself, you know what? If I ever
choke, I'm calling for a pizza. They
will get there much quicker and the
chances of them saving me much higher
than an ambulance saving me. And then
when this thing started, I told my
friends, I said, "Look, we're going to
get motorcycles. We're going to get like
a pizza box, put all the medical
equipment an ambulance has, and we're
going to get there much faster.
Nothing's going to stop us. Not only
we're going to get there fast, we could
park right in the entrance to the
location.
Because when you get there with an
ambulance sometimes or a car, you see
cars in Bora Park, in Brooklyn,
everywhere they park everywhere. Triple
park. You don't have you don't even when
an ambulance comes, he doesn't have and
if when an ambulance comes, sometimes
seven cars are before the ambulance
can't go through, right? So you can't
block the whole road. So having an
ambulance cycle, not only you get there
quick, you have the medical equipment
available in the right place. And that's
the idea. So the volunteers of of of
Hatella then said to me, Ellie, who's
going to authorize this? We need to go
to the government. We need to go get
permissions. You know, all this all the
all the bureaucracy bureaucracy. So I
was six I was maybe 18 then 17 18. I was
a young young boy. I said, "Listen, I'm
going to give the
authorization because if we go to the
government for ask for permission, I'll
be 90 years old before we get the
permission." I said, "In Israel, you
first do and then ask for
forgiveness. You don't ask for
permission before you do anything good."
And using the idea again, we went ahead
and we equipped a
motorcycle, made it officially looking.
You can see the picture here. And the
police didn't even imagine it has no
license or anything. Mhm. Now it's of
course super organized and we did a
revolution here. This is a disruptive
organization. We came, no one asked us
to do this. No, the government didn't
ask us to do this. The ambulance is
definitely going to ask us to do this.
But it led to millions of people who got
help. But not only did you get flacked,
there were people who told you that not
only aren't you helping, but you're
actually putting people in greater
danger, right? People who told you that
by being this destructive revolutionary
force. And I think it's an important
lesson for all of us to hear from you.
You know, people have ideas, people have
innovations, people want to make a
difference. And so so often they get
just crushed by the naysayers, by the by
the criticism. somehow you were able to
navigate that and and like you said in
Israel it's not an easy place to to come
up with a new idea and implement it.
Israel is one of the hardest places to
implement
u monopolies want to keep their
power organizations who are alone don't
want anyone else to threaten
their their you know their kingdom. So
when we started we had a problem. The
motorcycles were brilliant. We call them
ambcycles, right? They were so obvious.
It wasn't even a it wasn't like creating
a like technology that like you know the
today's technology you say how did they
do this? This was such a simple idea. So
basic so basic it wasn't existing. And
when I got the first letter
from people who were trying to stop us
saying this is going to kill people. You
better stop. We're going to go to the
police against you. We're going to stop
you. We're going to do everything
possible. And I got the heads of the
unions of Mendo telling me this is not
we're not going to allow this. This is
done by almost 30 years ago, right?
People were telling me we're going to
fight against you and everything. When I
realized how people getting threatened
by it, I realized this is the right
thing to do. And I said, "Nothing's
going to intimidate us. We're going to
do this. We're going to continue doing
this and we're going to get more and
more of these ambacles." I went around
you you you could read the book how I
started raising money for it. Sure.
Sure. I'm gonna get to the fundraising
in a second. It is interesting that in
New York. By the way, that wasn't the
only only thing. When I brought the
first defibrillator to Israel, automatic
defibrillator, no one had ambulances.
Regular ambulances didn't have
defibrillators. Only the intensive care
had a big monitor defibrillator. I
brought it in. I snuck it into Israel
through the
customs. And I didn't stop. I didn't
want to show anyone. I just brought it
in. And I get a I get a call from the
head of the health ministry. He says,
"We're not going to authorize you. Who
let you bring it into Israel? I heard
you're having a def who it could burn
someone. It could this." I went to meet
him was a nice guy. His name is Jacob
Barry. He's now he's a good friend of
mine. And he said, "I want to see this
thing. I want to see." And I he says,
"You need to get this permission, that
permission, that 35 different
organizations should authorize this." I
said, "Guess what? it's in the back of
our motorcycles. It's going to save
lives. And if you want to authorize it,
I'll give you a picture of it and you
can do the old red tape and everything.
And he became a big hassid of the
organization.
A lot of your naysayers ultimately came
around to become your biggest fans
because I think they they recognized
that you had you really didn't have any
agal agenda. You wanted to save lives.
You wanted to make the process smoother.
I I think and I got other people better
thinking about right what we did in
United at Sulla not only enabled us to
save lives it brought other
organizations to start looking at us and
saying we can't be staying
behind many many years later others
started copying the model of the
motorcycles the amb I was wondering
reading the book why let's say in New
York you don't really see the ambu cycle
and you would think that in New York
especially with the congestion and the
traffic. You would think it would it
would be a a good innovation, but well,
after the 92nd Arts School book, they're
going to start having motorcycles in New
York, too. They'll bring you down for
presentation. Now, you mentioned the
fundraising before, which a lot of the
book discusses
your really when it comes to
fundraising. the whole uh chapter with
Leonardo Faros, how he was so generous
to you and then in Ellie Beer fashion,
you just pushed the envelope a little
too far and asked him for even more
money, which is what you do. You know,
when you came up with this idea, you
want to save lives, you're going to
create an organization, that's one
thing. Fundraising is a whole different
animal. Not everyone who's good at one
thing is necessarily good at another.
someone who's good at orchestrating and
and and and you have this tremendous
motivation to save lives, it's very
altruistic, it's an amazing thing. But
asking people to give you money is a
whole different thing. When when you
entered that realm, how did you how do
you learn how to do that? Because you're
very good at it. First of all, I think
I'm doing terrible.
[Laughter]
I I could do a lot more. Okay. I could
lower it down to 60 seconds if I had
more
money because I really think my goal of
90 seconds is a is too long. If we train
more volunteers, if we have more ambles,
if we have instead of 6 and a half
thousand volunteers, we have 13,000
volunteers. We double that. That means
training thousands of more people,
buying more
defibrillators. Response time will go
down and more Jews, more people, more
more citizens of Israel will be saved.
So, I really think I'm doing a bad job.
I have to learn more how to raise money
and work harder. I put only 20 hours a
day. I should work harder. So, people
said, "You're such a great fundraiser."
I said, "This is the greatest cause in
the world. It should be easier for me."
It's not easy. I travel and I have a lot
of aggravations, a lot of heartfelt. I I
go to people, ask them for money and I
get nos once in a while. Give people an
idea what what's what's your annual
budget now. Well, we started with $1,000
a year. That's how we started with two
radios and a few bags of medical
equipment. It's grown a little since
then. It's grown a little. Look, I'll
tell you, we treat 800,000 people every
day. Every year. 800,000 people. And
that's besides our international
operations going to Ukraine and going
into disasters, global disasters and
other programs that we do with Holocaust
survivors and many we have an incredible
big organization that treats 800,000
people a year and our budget is only 50
$50 million
for that meaning just think about it.
And all that has to be fundraised or do
you get any money from the government?
We don't get any money from the
government. This is a non not a scent
non-governmental
organization run by people that are from
all backs of life in in Eritis and we
get a little money here and there. I
always tell the government I had
meetings with every prime minister and
every minister and the first thing they
said how could you help me? How could I
help you? The minister like Laid Yeah.
who's not so popular in in Bora Park.
Laid said to me, I want to help you. How
can I help you? I said, listen, yer, do
me a favor. I don't need your help. Just
don't bother me. That's the biggest help
they could do. When we want to develop
new ideas, don't make it hard for
us. Money from a government is important
and we're slowly getting more now. the
new government is much easier to work
with uh in terms of finances but but
that's not we we don't depend on the
government because unfortunately Israel
does not have a government for most most
of the time last three years we didn't
have a government so if we want to go
ahead and create Unitedella in a
sustainable way we need to depend on ami
so I need to go to thousands and
thousands of people to get and get them
to support Unitedella
And that's the idea of United Hatsellah
that we don't depend on donation. We
don't depend on government. We depend on
volunteers and we depend on support from
people. So we're talking about
fundraising. I encourage everyone to
read the chapter on Leonardo when you
ended up in Europe and he wanted to give
that gentleman
250 million euro and the guy didn't want
to accept it. That chapter is off the
charts. But you have great fundraising
stories. Tell me one that just stands
out in your mind. Well, if you want to
learn the tricks about fundraising, you
could learn read the book, but it's not
really fundraising is
really something that you have to have
love to what you're doing. If I didn't
love Unitedella so much, I would
probably not be able to raise one
dollar. If you ask me to fundra for
anything, I probably don't know how to
do it. And you need to love what you're
doing. If people don't connect to your
love and your passion you have for the
for the organization, for the cause,
you're probably not going to do well,
right? And I think this is really the
essence of everything. I met people and
told them the needs and my experience
being involved in saving people's lives
and just said to them straight into the
eyes, I need you to support this. Could
you donate $1,000? Could you donate
10,000? Could you donate a million? and
that's it. And then be quiet, wait for
them for a response. And I was shocked
to see that people want to support. I
didn't know this. I never learned
fundraising. I grew up as a regular
little LA Beer, you know, right? And uh
you'll see my story with my
father-in-law when I was a young boy,
just married, and I asked my
father-in-law about an ambulance. And I
didn't ask him for money. I just told
him that we need an ambulance without
telling him, could you donate an
ambulance?
And you learn over time that people give
people. It's not really organizations.
So more than more than techniques, it's
it's about your passion for the for the
project, whatever it is that you're
fundraising for. Yes. But I could annoy
people, too. You'll see how many people
I annoyed in this book. My good friend
Bob Book, I love him very much. He's uh
he's one of a kind. And I annoyed him
and Leonardo and many others and I
thought somehow you don't always know
where to stop. You just keep pushing and
the more someone gives you the more you
push them. And yeah, and I think that's
the right thing to do. I do the same
thing to volunteers. Volunteer that goes
out 30 calls a month. I say, could you
push for 40 calls a
month? You know what? If people know you
need them, they will do it.
Mhm. Now the book talks about this and
then it was very well publicized at the
time during co you had your own battle
and you were welcomed back in in grand
fashion. Talk about that. That's a you
know a very very
prominent episode in your life I would
call it. Well this well this happened
exactly three years ago. I was uh
traveling. I I I travel 200 days a
year. Um my kids don't see me. My kids
actually call me Aino
Shabbashim. Um and I was traveling to
Apac March 3rd, big Apac convention in
Washington, and 17,000 Jews were hugging
me. I was hugging them. We weren't we
weren't shaking hands. We were going
like this. Right. That was March 2020.
Yeah. right at right at the start of co
no one really knew what CO was then and
uh when I got to uh Washington I was
everything was more or less normal and
then I had to fly to London for a
weekend to speak over in Ashul in London
and they shut down Israel for I mean
didn't shut it down yet but it was
saying quarantine for anyone who's
coming from
APAC I said how could I stay two weeks
in my house I will go Crazy. So I
decided to fly to Washington to to
Miami, the good friend's bar mitzvah, J.
Shan's grandson's bar
mitzvah. And I said, "Okay, I'll go
there instead." And when I got to Miami,
I went to Shul spent Shul by Rabbi
Lipker in Bell Harbor. It was wonderful,
great suda. And then somehow I felt
dizzy. I didn't feel well. I ended up a
few days into isolating myself. I
couldn't breathe. I was looking for
oxygen
everywhere and I couldn't I couldn't
handle it. I was looking I was going to
the porch trying to breathe and I
couldn't absorb the
oxygen and uh I was the first person in
ICU. Actually, Rabbi Lipker and myself
were both in the ICU in in in
Miami. And uh a few days later, I had to
say goodbye to my children. They told me
that they have to intubate me, put me in
a coma,
and uh they said I asked the doctor,
"What's my chances of
survival?" And he says, "Probably
5%." And uh I called my kids. My kids
were crying. I asked all my children,
"Just be good Jews. Be good people. do
if you want me to be saved, the only
thing you could do is do and if I'm not
if I don't
survive, I said u continue doing like
your grandfather, like your parents, my
wife Kitty, huge
Bakassid and I'm I'm very privileged
that I have kids who love helping people
and
uh you know, no one in my kids are going
to be Raan Kfki, but they're going to be
Balid. And I that's what I was worried
about. Get my kids to do good. And I
said, "That's what you should focus on."
And I went to sleep for a month. Wow. I
wasn't sure I'll ever wake up. And then
one day I'm like, it took me two days or
three days to realize I'm alive because
even when I was waking up, I didn't know
where I was. I was in I
delusions. I talk about it. It was very
funny. I I thought I was kidnapped by
terrorists and if they know I'm Jewish,
they're going to kill me. And it was I
right. It was another world that I woke
into. When I woke up, I didn't know they
shut down everywhere. They shut down
shoes. They shut down hotels. You woke
up to a different world. And here you
are in America. Your family's in Israel.
They're checking up on you every day.
But but you no one could be with me. And
I was all alone. All alone. And
incredible people all over the world
were were fighting for me everywhere.
And people were dominating for me and
doing for me. I told everyone if you
want me to be saved do good
deed. That means a lot. That ding is
important. You need d and you need to
say to but doing an act of for someone
could go a long way. And uh I am 100%
sure that the had saved my
life and I talk about the story when I
woke up and uh I was so I was so
disappoint like I was
so I was broken heart I I didn't want to
continue being in Nutella. I wanted to
resign because I woke up 35 40 pounds
less. I wasn't myself. I couldn't talk.
I I was so sick and I just said enough
is enough. I don't want to continue. And
uh and I didn't want to even answer the
phones. And then Ellie Paul calls me
from Israel, the CEO of he says Ellie,
you need to come back. We did because of
you. You asked us to do extraid. And now
that we all we did all this stuff for
you, you don't want to even come back.
And Miriam adding me offering a plane.
Everyone's calling and offering planes.
And I said, "I don't want any planes.
I'm I'm not even coming back. So I said,
"What did you do for me?" He says, "You
know what we did? We opened another
department in Atsalah. Besides heart
attacks and strokes and COVID patients
and everything else, we're also doing
now. People calling us to go shop for
them. People calling to buy medicine for
them. We are we have thousands of new
volunteers who joined just for this and
we're dispatching them from United's com
command center with our technology like
Uber. We have very sophisticated
technology and that operation is still
still still working still doing today.
during the whole co time we were
helping.
When he called me up he said
60,000 people got help from us during
the time you were in a coma and we were
continued doing it and it's all because
of you. You asked us to do it. So I told
him give me one story of the 60,000 one
story and he says a woman called five
minutes before Pesak and I was in a coma
and she says I need help save my life.
They said what's your emergency? She
said, "I don't have candles to light for
Pesak. I live in Batyam. I'm 95 years
old. Help me send someone to get give me
candles." So, they sent out the call.
And the first volunteer who responded to
the call was an Arab volunteer by the
name of Ibrahim
Aayuti. And the story is beautiful
story. And he got on his
ambicycle. He bought in a little mollet,
a little bodega. He bought a box of
candles and a bouquet of flowers. He put
in the back next to the defibrillator.
He drove over to her. He was there in 5
minutes, not 90 seconds. But he brought
over the candles. And she she said to
him, "You saved my life." And he said,
"I want to spend two and a half." He
spent two and a half hours with her. He
wants to spend the sed night. He's
saying for the first time in his life.
He's Muslim. He
saying, he said,
And after she asked him after the seder
she asked him, he asked her, "Why did
you say I saved your life? I just
brought you candles." And she said,
"Even when I was a little kid in Europe,
I never missed a week lighting candles.
During the war, I lit a piece of paper
every week. I never missed a week
lighting candles for Shabas, for Yantov.
And after the war, when I came to
Israel, when I came to Palestine, I
decided to light candles for every
member of my family who
perished. And I lived every week without
never missing a week. This is the first
time. I didn't go shopping for a month.
I couldn't go shopping. And good people
left food next to my door. But I
realized I don't have enough candles to
light. And I said, "If I'm not lighting
enough candles and I have to light a
piece of paper to fill in for the
candles missing, I will not survive this
and I will die." And I said, "Last time,
I didn't feel well. I called at you guys
came right away. And now you came and
saved my life." Arab volunteer. And I
started crying when I heard this story.
Ibrahim was crying when he saw he helped
a Holocaust survivor.
Ibrahim. And I love this man. And I came
to Israel after saying I'm coming back
flying to
Israel. And when I landed, I saw
thousands of volunteers waiting for me.
Pictures and videos went out. People
were people were so taken by the welcome
that you got. Really a hero's welcome.
But I was asking where is Ibrahim? And
they brought him over, right? And I and
I I gave him a hug. Was you No one's
allowed to touch each other then. It was
all isolated. You weren't I said give me
a hug. I gave him a hug. I said, "You
saved my life."
Because he gave you the inspiration to
carry on. Yeah. I said, "Even an Arab
guy was inspired by United Hatsella to
go help a Holocaust survivor and save
her life by giving her candles." He told
me that all the emergencies he responded
to ever in his life, this was the most
meaningful Autela emergency that he went
to.
How long was it till you really felt
like you were back to yourself? came
back to Israel, you were still suffering
from the after effects of COVID. You had
lost a lot of weight. When was it that
you said, "You know what? I'm back." Bar
Hashem really miraculously. Well, look,
my wife told me, "I can't travel for two
years." Uhhuh. I told her, "Gi, give me
two months. I'm on the plane back to
travel." She was laughing like you are.
Two months later, I was on the plane
flying. People didn't want to People
were scared to meet me. No, I'm a co. I
said, "I'm the most secured guy you can
meet. No one better than me to meet now.
I done with it. I don't have I have co
already." And I got people to meet me.
It was amazing because people were not
meeting anyone, right? And it was
unbelievable. Hashem put me through this
for a reason and many reasons. It's all
in the book. It's inspiring. Now you
decided to take your life story which is
fascinating in itself and have Rabbi
Seltzer who always does a magnificent
job and he did an unbelievable job
putting your story into this book. What
was you and your wife you decided to
kind of open up open up you know your
your private life as well and put it out
there for the public and you had a
reason for doing so. What was that? The
reason is I want United to tell us
sustainable. I want the continuation of
this organization for many generations
after. It's not my organization. I
started it with a reason. I had a
reason. But to have so many thousands of
children who grow up like me, kids who
have a dream and so many dreams are
dismissed, right? Because someone said
something to them, "No, it's stupid.
Don't do it. It's this and
that." Gdalia met me. Rabbi Gdalia
Zladawitz met me a year ago. I didn't
want to do a book. I got a lot of offers
to do books. We were we spended a
weekend together in a in
a he said, "Ellie, you should do a
book." And I said, "Yeah, I heard that
and I don't know how to write. I could
hardly read. You want me to write?" He
said, "I have a great writer for you,
Rabbi Nakman Selza. He wrote 50 books.
He's going to make a beautiful story
that will inspire the next generations
of
volunteers. When I said that, when I
heard that, I said, you know what? So
many thousands of people, especially
young people who read this book are
going to get inspired to do something
good in their
life. Whatever it is, they'll do another
idea, another organization, a business.
When you have a dream to do something,
don't let other people stop you. If it's
a good thing, of course, and you learn
that you if you really believe in
something, it could happen. I do believe
that there are going to be people going
to read this book, young and old,
everyone in between, there are going to
be people who are going to read it and
be inspired to chase their dreams. I
don't think it's an exaggeration because
they see they're going to see that you
did it. you you you did what people told
you is
impossible. You did what people told you
you shouldn't do or you're stepping on
other people's toes and all the other
reasons and ultimately you followed
through and thousands of lives
later you're here to tell the tale.
That's in addition to all the other
fascinating components of your life.
your your your challenge with health a
few years ago, your fundraising stories
and tips and insights and your your
ability to connect with people. You have
that ability to connect with people. You
do. People see that you mean it. It's
coming from your heart and that comes
through in this book. They see how
genuine you are. You don't mind being
vulnerable. You don't mind being honest
because you know you're just people meet
you. Ellie Beer is Ellie Beer. There's
no facade when people meet you. I know
from when when I I was privileged to
meet you and I saw that right away and I
think that's what people are going to
see in this book and I hope people go
out and buy it just because it's going
to infuse them with that belief that
they can do what they put their mind and
heart to do. And on that note, any final
message? Well, last night I went for
dinner and I met the Berber family in a
restaurant here in New York. Uh, no do
I'm eating there and a little boy from
the Urb
family. He's maybe 8 years old. He told
me that he saved his sister's life
because of me. And they came to visit
the Unitedella Center a few years ago.
They donated an
ambicycle and they were there and I
taught the little boy when he was maybe
four. I taught him CPR, not CPR,
himless, how to save someone from
choking. And he was a kid, very smart
kid. And I have a doll that I teach it.
And and he said two years ago, his
sister choked from food. She was eating
and he saw her choke and no one knew
what to do. They called for Atella right
away. They called Atella. He ran over.
He was six years old. And he said, "I
did the himuk maneuver." Wow. And I did
it a few times like you taught me and I
saved her life. And he told us last
night. Really? Wow. That kid was
inspired by me by learning CPR. I hope
this will inspire a lot of people. And I
I recommend you buy this book for
yourself, but also buy it for all your
friends. Sure. Give it away for Pesa.
For a gift for Pes. Sure. It's a message
that's that's universal. Whoever reads
it is is going to be very very besides
that it's entertaining. It's pure
entertainment. But this it's funny, too.
We have a lot of fun. It's funny. You're
funny. Your is funny. The way you deal
with people and the way Ribn portrays it
in such a very human way. So, it's it's
it's really a great read and we hope
people read it. And Rebelli, thank you
for all you've done for
Claus. You've united people. You've
you've portrayed us in such a a positive
light. You've brought out the beauty of
Claus in a very unique way. You've been
there for so many people. I just offer
my humble braha. You should continue.
You should have the health and the
strength together with your wife, your
whole family to continue being there for
other people. Continue inspiring,
innovating until Mashiach comes. Should
continue. You want to I want to continue
after Mashia. After Mashiach also should
never stop. Thank you. Thank you again
for being here. Appreciate it. Thanks
for having me. Thank you.
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