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Hello everyone and welcome back to
Inside Art Scroll where the books you
read and the people who write them come
to life. Today I am privileged to be
joined by Rabbi Aram Usher Makovski,
author of a fantastic new book titled
Living Kassid. Thank you, Rabbi
Makovski, for being here. It's my
pleasure to be here. It's a special for
me because we're good friends. So to see
my good friend put out a book and a book
that really I've followed the the
process from before it was even a book
when it was just an idea. Uh is a tre a
tremendous source of satisfaction. I
must say I'm pr I'm proud of what you
produced there because it's a fantastic
book. The book is a kadeshm and it's an
inspiration. It's going to inspire
people to do and to live. All right. I'm
I'm making believe I'm not on I'm not on
a video here. Am I allowed to praise
you? But uh you were you you were the
power behind this book because when you
gave me the first idea, put come on put
the stories in writing on put the sh in
writing. I was like an English book. It
didn't like really I didn't take it
serious. Right. But the more you kept on
telling me what a good idea it is, so
the more uh started make started
penetrating. So the the viewers may not
know that you are a mab or swarm. You've
written in Hebrew, but you started
giving shirim in English on the topic of
shirim that I heard and I was very very
taken by them. And whoever hasn't heard
them, they should take advantage and
listen to your your shim that you have
on because they're extremely inspiring.
They all have a story with a lesson and
I the reason why I pushed you to write
the book and thank you for the
opportunity that you gave me also to
write the forward to the book. I I felt
you know the book wouldn't have happened
without you. But I felt that this book I
I felt that needed this book because we
have books on many many different topics
and the topic of the way you teach it
the way you taught me was so penetrating
and so powerful I felt that you had to
share it and this book is is
magnificent. Okay. I I find one of the
things that one of the real fundamental
mistakes that people may people make and
I'm not saying I I probably made that
mistake too many years ago and that is
that when people say you got to do you
have to really do a lot of so a lot of
means you got to take chunks of time
away from yourself away from your family
and start giving up hours of like a solo
member or a big member or big
organizations and people like listen I
have a family to take care of I just you
know hashem put me in a situation now
that I just can't be spending hours
doing so really that is a fundamental
mistake like we've discussed many times
that's one of the opening things I say
in any sh I say onet that means the
pelleoy like you've heard from me before
and we've we've I've quoted I've quoted
the paleo dozens of times please please
share it with with the viewers okay the
pelleoyates that says that when it comes
before shashani
People are looking for they're like
looking high and low. So he says some
people will pay a lot of money to
do to open up is people pay a lot of
money. Some people will buy for a lot of
money because it's a school. Some people
pay money
for people are looking for in his days.
He says people paid money for sand to be
a sandic. It's unbelievable. It says one
second to give someone change of a coin
is greater than opening
the because it's a mitzvah in the of
that means if someone needs change and
the mitzvah of is whatever you would
want someone to do to you do it to
someone else. Right? So if you're
standing by a coffee machine that says
exact change only and you don't have
change of a dollar, right? So you
wouldn't want someone to change it for
you. to change someone else is a mitzvah
of greater than
opening. So like Pier is saying any type
of favor you do you're driving home from
work he gives someone a lift you just
did a mitz of any type of favor you do
so the opportunities are
endless and you bring in the book one of
the wonderful chapters where you bring a
story from Raf and I love that chapter
because it talks about how a yeshiva is
a repository of opportunities came to he
said I don't really get to do and
yeshiva he wanted to know if he could go
out of yeshiva I don't know if it was to
play music in an age old a a old age
home right and do in that fashion and
shak's response was you don't have to go
anywhere the is under your nose just
look around yourself and he talks about
uplifting fellow bahim some people are
down and out a yeshiva is a great
opportunity you're around people you
could do so much right so this is the
thing that you know like um you know
we're having a candid conversation here
But it's something every time I talk
about I cannot control myself from
saying over this Rambam this
earthshattering Rambam you know that
I've said this in many speeches and I
used to get phone calls where is this
Rambam so after that I like you know now
I always say where it is it's in Peric
Vimble chapter 6 law three that you can
look up the Rambam that the Rambam says
the ultimate way to be Mim fulfill the
mitz and the is to give someone a
compliment.
to uplift them. And the answer is
simple. The explanation of the ram is
because whatever you would like someone
to do to you, you do to someone else.
The greatest desire a person has is that
people think good of them. That's the
greatest desire what they have. So if
that's the greatest desire that you
have, so the greatest way to fulfill is
to compliment. So now let's go back. We
started before. Someone is busy. They
have no time. They're busy with their
family. They're in work from 9 to5. Then
they go home. How many times a day can
they fulfill the ultimate way of the
mitzvah of right? You compliment your
employee, you compliment your employer,
you compliment your co-orker, you tell
your wife, you're a great mother when
you come home, you tell your children,
you did such a nice job on your
homework, you did you just were sixes of
without going into any organization just
sitting in your house is
unbel of your friend and that's right.
So that's very similar to right it's
very very similar but it's just it's
building up giving friendship to people
and it's you really bring that out in
story after story how small acts of
kindness a nice
word a small gesture could really be
life-changing besides like you're saying
that you're being
mimitzvida I and I've said this over
when I I spoke in Bahram quite a few
times I always say over that example
example I say over that example if
there's a fellow across the base and you
pissed him a gum that he needed your act
is a mitzvah that's greater than if you
got and the bakram's eyes jump out of
their head they can't fathom it because
we're so programmed to think we have
like our priorities what's more
important what's more so I gave someone
change for a soda machine that's that's
on par with yeah that's on par with
something so exalted and I want to add
to what you just said. You just said
that if you pass a gar to your friend,
you're because you did a favor for him.
And if you tell your friend you said
a rajbah, that is the greatest.
The Rambam is saying that's the epitome
of is to compliment your friend. I mean,
it's almost like tragic. That's the
words we used in the book. That's almost
tragic to overlook that. Mhm. That means
you come home from at night, you tell
your wife, you are a great cook, you
keep a great house, you're a great
person, you fulfilled three times the
mitzvah of in the best way. And I love
that you brought up that example because
we, you know, we always say charity
begins at home. Begins at home also.
That's right. Can be manifest in your
house. People don't realize that there's
with your spouse and your children also.
Just because they're related to you
doesn't mean it's not a mitzvah when you
praise them or you make them feel good.
That's why your example is wonderful.
How many example how many times do we
squander the opportunity at home or or
in our classroom or in our work you know
work environment? It's wonderful and
about a husband and wife
especially a famous that he says that
the way a person is judged on their
behalf is the way they act to their
spouse. Mhm. Many years ago I said in
Kazak I said a speech on Shalis I very
much stressed this. So a person might
think but with your spouse but I mean
like I'm away the whole day she's at
home or she's away the whole day. We
come home we see a little bit a few
compliments that's that's the greatest
you could do for each other is to show
the person that you think highly of
them.
Now you you've become I'm going to call
you an ambassador of some sort in in
teaching. Where where did just share a
little background where did that come
from? Where did you grow up first of
all? So I I would say I would say two
things to that question. First I would
say you know my
parents always like to help anyone that
has a need like like you know what I'm
saying? My mother has a special thing of
trying to make for older singles. She
like and hard cases hard cases and she's
made she's made some real hard cases
that like you know and she and she also
likes to invite over I grew up like you
know this older whatever bakar this
older this come for a shabas suda and
from they always liked they always like
to help people my father mother together
they're always looking out to help
people that's one thing the second thing
I would say is I'll tell you something
interesting I got a phone call the other
week someone just is saying he lives in
a town or he lives to listens to the
daily do of and he's a bouva from
Florida and he's whatever he really
enjoys it fine how did you come from I
don't think I ever told you this
happened just last week he said you know
how I came from because someone gave me
an art
schoolsh and I started learning and I
started learning I felt the
the I felt it was speaking to me that's
really how I became from from learning
And he said now he has real estate. He
lives in Natana. He liked the water. He
used to live in Florida. So he lives by
Natana there, but he has real estate in
the United States, but he lives in Eras.
And so he called you because he heard
one of
the he says he listened to them in Italy
and he sent the podcast back to Florida
to people. He said, "I want you to know
that we're listening in Florida." That's
what he was calling me calling to tell
me. Fine.
But really I want to say something this
point that he got me thinking. He says
from learning I became from the more you
learn and gar you see how is a key from
learning the gar are all over the place.
What should you do to be safe from
Mashiach? You should toil
in people that have certain it says Ben
had clawless on them. What should you
do? Toil
entire always puts this together. You
have to toil and and it's one of the
things that you've commented on the of
the going on
both of that it's it's it's an
immersion. You have to you have to be
immersed in it. And this is one of the
things I come to say in fact I started
off the book in the introduction with
that is that told people that there's no
other way to be saved when every time
when sars are happening he says already
before in his time before World War II
he was saying that already it's the
onset of Mashia we're coming close to
the year 6000 he said already in his
time it was already the onset so said
that you're wasting your time going
around what could we do for protection
the gar
that the only protection from is being
immersed in and so that's what I bring
out that people could say that immerse
myself in you understand how to do that
how do you immerse yourself in if you
have a nine-to-five job and then when
you run home you have to run to your and
run to bring do homework with your kids
how could you be constantly toiling in
the answer is if you just drop five
compliments throughout the day and give
one person a lift. You just did massive
the whole day. It's just it's just a
mindset. It's a reprogramming. Just a
reprogramming in the in the book that we
write is that how can a person think to
compliment? How can they think once you
get it into your head? This is
a this will protect me
from so why should I not compliment? You
know, just I'll tell you something.
Today I ded in a minion and someone ded
a beautiful
hales and I was like bothered the guy
ded really nice and I didn't see anyone
complimenting. Mhm. I'm saying someone
ded a nice hal if someone will just
internalize it's a mitzvah to say I
enjoyed your ding. You're a
beautiful then it's if a person
internalizes that that it's a mitzvah.
Then why it doesn't cost anything
beautiful and it costs you nothing. It
cost you nothing and it's just and it's
the greatest and it's the greatest
protection. So
like it's a it's a that this hasn't been
brought out more. I'll be honest when I
when I went through the book when I went
through the manuscript before it was
published I kept saying to myself you're
you're not
being you're saying you're saying things
that are so obvious like you said before
open you're not reinventing the wheel.
You're just you're shining a light on
something that needed to be magnified in
a greater way and you do it
magnificently. Now, I know I noticed
before you skirted my question because I
know you don't like talking about
yourself, but I just want to hear for
our viewers a little background about
you. I know again I know you don't like
talking about yourself. I know you want
to talk about the book and you're about
you're all about spreading the message,
which we'll get back to, but just tell
us a little about yourself. Where where
did you grow up? Where did you learn?
Okay. So, um I I learned in actually I
learned in elementary school I
learned and I loved it. So, you grew up
in Flatbush? I grew up in Flapush and it
was was Gavaldic elementary years like
real fond memories. Then I went to
Terimima from then on starting ninth
grade of Orlando. I was privileged to
have as a rebby
through and then I went to her to learn
the brisk and then I u came back to then
I came to Lakewood and um that's my
background I say and I say for the lunch
and learn program I think as well in
Lakewood as well the lunch and learn
program is your topic always about no no
so the lunch and learn that's available
on Torah anytime that's it's nine out of
10 nine nine out of
on but um at the last three or four
minutes of this which is only 27 minutes
the whole share the last three four
minutes we usually say something in
something usually that's about now one
time I made a special series of four
which that CD which is also called which
is also called livingass very popular
right it was called living and that was
also called livingass and that that was
on um that that I made a special thing I
gave four shin And that series that
series of living is what really spurred
me to push you to write this book
because that and whoever didn't hear
those it's worth getting hold of. Is
there a way to get hold of them? I I
could if someone contacts me. Someone
contacts you. Those are really I'm not
exaggerating. They're life-changing.
First of all, your delivery is
magnificent. You have everything is
documented in Kazal and you have
fantastic stories which is which is
really what you do in this book. Right.
This book this book has really the
stories here bring each time we bring
the kazal to point we give a fascinating
story and most most of these stories are
not wellknown right you did a great job
we would call curating the stories walk
us through how do you go about
collecting stories I know as as someone
who tries to collect stories and tries
to write it's hard to find original
stories most stories by now everyone
seems to know them um some of them that
you write are firsthand so obviously
they're original uh what what's your
process of collecting stories to be on
message? Okay. Well, first of all, I
have to tell you that since I've been
speaking about and always mentioning
stories on in my even when I'm saying
the last few minutes is usually about so
the end of the sh I'm saying so I've
been always on the lookout for good
stories and and so when it came to this
thing of writing a book in other words a
bunch of the stories were already we're
going to make the podcast say the
stories I had these stories for years in
my memory that I'm like this story I
heard once on a thing. This I once heard
from the rabb years ago. This story
happened 20 something years ago. I
remember in Lakewood these things
because it was so precious to me. Every
story. So I've I've had them in me for
many years. A lot of them I didn't have
to search. A lot of them was now I'm
going to take a lot of these stories and
a lot of them are not well known. And
it's in it's interesting like this Ram
that we spoke before about a compliment
that it's not a well-known Ramdom. I've
said it over I almost would say hundreds
of times already and I remember like
when 911 happened people know where they
were when they heard about it right I
remember where I was driving when I I
heard Raat Salman say over from Gates
before we came to Lakewood when he said
over this Ramb I remember I was driving
in Baltimore I remember where I was
driving what an impression that it shook
me that the compliment is so basically
these stories
stories always made a very big
impression on me. So you're saying like
you started building up almost like a
treasure like a treasure trove without
writing them down. Uhhuh. I I just had
them, you know, they were these were
stories that I had with me that I, you
know, would you say that hearing that
Rambam was what sparked
your revolution, you know, would I that
was that it? I It's hard to say. I don't
know. I I I can't answer that. If it
sparked my my I can't say to speak about
it. I I I don't know. I can't answer an
honest answer to that. But I can say
that when I when it hit me that the
Rambam is saying that this is the
ultimate way to do it hit me on a new
like a ton of bricks. Sure. That the
greatest
is is available to like you know one of
my podcasts that I put out the topic was
how to be the greatest husband and the
whole thing was less than four minutes.
Like someone saying how could you do
that in less than four minutes? Well it
was the greatest is to compliment your
wife. Mhm. That that was this Ramom.
That's the greatest, right? Make your
wife feel appreciated. Stiple writes in
a letter that a husband or wife that
feels not appreciated by their spouse,
it's like,
you know, so that's a good question that
it definitely spurred me to a new degree
how is so accessible and so easy. Right.
Right. Right. And and and if people
would realize the power of compliments,
especially from people who are good at
what they're complimenting you
about, you know, for example, I think of
of two people, let's say Rabbi
Cron Zangut and Rabbi Spiro. Both of
them are very generous with compliments.
I know to me they always have a a nice
word to say and they're at the top of
their field. If people would realize
that in whatever position they're in,
they could really build people and and
spur them on to to further growth. It's
it's an I will add one thing that we're
talking about compliments that it's a
mitz and how especially how it builds
people up, but of course it's and we
explained that in the book a few times.
You have to have a good dose of also how
to say the compliment. A compliment
that's on mark, right? person doesn't
just think you're saying, "Oh, great,
great, great for everything." It has to
be done with it has to be genuine. Has
to be has to be right. It has to be
real. Has to be real. But everybody has
something real to compliment, right?
Everyone has something real. So like,
you know, if you're going to compliment
your wife on on the steak that was burnt
toast, so it's not real. It's silly.
That's silly. That's silly. But
everybody has good things. I I'm telling
you, people read this book, they're
going to walk away guaranteed. they're
going to look at their daily
interactions differently. There's no
other way about it. You read this book,
even a few chapters, and suddenly you
start thinking to yourself, hold on,
everything I do in my day from the
moment I wake up and meet the first
person and I wish them good morning till
I go to sleep at night, I'm going to
encounter so so many
opportunities. And um it's really
unbelievable. I sometimes enjoy telling
people like you know if I give a bakar a
hitch one or two bakham hitchings I once
gave like three bakham a hitch. I told
them you know that I'm doing three
mitzvah ISIS with this car ride three. I
said yeah and they said which mitzvah
they're like boy you got to get this
word out there to more drivers you know
so we could get some more hes looks at
it like that. Now you're not obligated
if to go out of your way if you're, you
know, your wife is waiting for you, your
children are waiting for you, you have a
so you're have obligations you have to
do. But if a person has this mindset, if
I go five blocks out of the way for
someone, I'm doing a mitzvah, it's like
I'm opening the I'm doing the mitzvah
like you know, it's no less than your
$250. Right. Right. Right. Right. Now
you're you're a you're a master of
stories. You have great stories. People
love stories. I don't want to put you on
the spot. I don't know if you could
think of what what what are one or two
of your favorite stories. So, you know,
it's a it's a thing. A lot of people ask
me that and I I I don't mind telling you
a story. I could sit there and tell a
lot of stories, but it's very hard for
me to say what's my favorite story.
Okay? I I I I knew that question was
going to be coming because I've been
asked it more than once. It's very hard
for me to say what's my favorite because
I feel there's so many different stories
that each one bring out the point in a
different way. They're each special.
They're each special. But I will tell
you something that I'll tell you
something interesting interesting that
what what I find about that we're
talking about building someone up,
right? How it's literally like
life-changing. You mentioned that story
with Raf Raf said a line that and it's
one of the times, you know, when I went
over with my editor in the book, we
didn't want to make too many things bold
because if you start making bold every
chapter, something bold. Let me let me
use that opportunity to thank the
editor, Mrs. Khan Obam. She did an
incredible job. She did an unbelievable
job. She took every written p she
exactly like I wrote in the
acknowledgements. She took every written
page and took that page and made into a
masterpiece. Hashem gave her such a
special talent and she uses it. She uses
it. She she was telling me that you know
the things that she uses the talent to
be. Oh, she did. She did a magnificent
job. So getting getting back. I'm sorry
I interrupted your story. Yeah. So, no.
So, so this story there's there's
there's a couple of different points,
but this I I I what I mentioned right
right before that was about making bold.
So, Mrs. Nestlebound didn't want I
should make bold too many things in the
book because she said it loses its
effect. Every chapter you have something
bold cried wolf right so he only did
bold three times. one is an introduction
this Rambam about the compliment that
that's the ultimate way to do the mitz
of now the second time Mrs. Nestleb was
very touched by something and she made
this bowl by herself and I don't have
permission but I will tell you something
just to show how she took to heart this
thing. She said this was so eyeopening
to her straight she discussed it with
her children and her son got together
and they actually took an action from
from this that is that is that you're
obligated to give to your relatives
first and it gives a list and the guy
holds that
it's first you have to get help out your
parents then your married children and
then your brothers and sisters which
means to say that if anybody has I
wasn't planning on going to the stucka
aspect it's only like one or two pieces
on this but you mentioned Mrs.
how she was taken by this. That means if
anyone has brothers or sisters that
can't pay their tuitions, you're
obligated to give first to help them pay
their of tuitions before you give to any
parliament meetings to any yeshivas to
any other great you know any other great
causes you got to help. So she was so
taken by this that she mentioned this to
her son and this and they got together
and they gave all their miser money to
help out one of their relatives that
needed that that had some kus. Wow. They
said and you yourself have shared with
me you know stories of people who have
picked up the phone called up a school
and right and there's a few there's a
few great stories there's a few great
stories in the book about this firsthand
stories that you know firstand stories
one of them you know now that we're
talking like a conversation one of the
things I I heard directly from the
school secretary which was my daughter
you know who got this phone call and the
person anonymously just to take take
care of the tuition burdens of siblings
of relives of of siblings of siblings
children and that's really the highest
this is this is the highest sodaka this
is that's the second time it was bolded
was on this that that she did okay the
third time I bolded I asked her
permission to bold one more time and she
gave me permission to bold one more
thing and that is this thing there's a
few a towards the end of the book I have
a few fascinating stories which here I
have to be very careful not giving out
these are all stories that I know really
firsthand basically from through this
through that friends of whatever I know
really stories but this thing like what
you said where you started mentioning
before the story was that Rafi Wolf he
was a very close mash so he was there
when came into and asked that the world
stands on three
things and I learned in
yeshiva I don't do so like you mentioned
before he wants to go play music he's a
talented musician he wants to go to to
an old age home and play some music.
So the really the way I the story how I
like to bring it out is and this is what
I wrote got upset because his point was
like this said I know what's going on in
yeshivas there are bim that are
depressed there are bakham that don't
feel part don't feel part of the click
they're having trouble to take five or
10 minutes out of your time of your
supper time and smoo with a baker that's
feeling out of it that is the
greatest not just making someone happy
playing a little music for them to take
a boy that's feels lost in a school lost
in a cliff. So the way I brought it out
in the book was it's like imagine
someone I'll tell you which line I made
bold in a minute. That's imagine
somebody is sitting in a they're sitting
like you know in a hospital and he's in
the ICU in intensive care and he says
you know I really want to go visit
someone sick. Maybe I should walk to the
pediatrician's office and visit someone
who has streped throat. Like, hello. You
want to go? You're in the
ICU. You want to visit a sick person,
you're in the ICU. I said, it's almost
like saying you would, this is this is
what I emboldened to a girl that doesn't
have friends on and that doesn't have
friends in school on a Sunday when all
her friends are going out and having a
great time. I wrote a real story about
this that girls that are going out
having a great time on Sundays and this
girl is sitting home feeling alone.
That's ICU level. This was I bolded that
long. This is ICU level. Greater than
going to a nursing home and playing
music is to give that girl friendship to
that could literally save her life.
That's a matter of life and death. So
this is something that's really there's
a lot of stories about this real
firsthand stories about girls who just
made it who took another girl in who
made it their business. And I'm not
going to tell you I preach this you know
I could without going into preach this
to a lot of people people that I that
are relatives of mine people that I know
whoever has a popular son or popular
daughter I give them this message tell
them they have an if they're popular in
school there's a lot of stories out
there in this book addressed to people
that are popular kids if Hashem gave you
that matana of being popular use it that
when the five girls or five boys want to
do something on a Sunday or do something
on a benaz man. You tell them, I'm
insisting that we take a we take along
this other girl also. And when you're
popular, you could carry that weight
because they want you. You're like the
life of the party. So they'll listen to
you. So that's your is to make sure they
don't get left out. There's a lot in
there. And in fact, I you know like I I
I it's also in there that gumar sometime
there's nothing stronger than a
garra. Everyone's aware that fell asleep
for 70 years. But what happened when he
woke up after 70 years since no one
recognized him? The
garist right Mrs. was saying this
Gamarra and Tinus like you know like it
was going into her head from editing it
right it's 23A she I remember it's 23A I
remember that Tinus
23A and he said he would rather die
because no one was giving him the
respect
anymore someone who we can't imagine but
since people were not giving him the
respect the covet we're not giving him
respect anymore he felt he'd rather die
that shows that Respect for a person is
a matter of life and death. It's not
like like I always tell the people this
mal I like to tell kids when I'm I'm
giving like when our girls when I spoke
I spoke this in Oros high school I sped
a speech in Orus high school and I I
spoke so powerful so passionate about
this that I said it was right before Yum
Kipper I said it was the day before
Kipper I said you want to make sure
you're going to have
a everyone sitting in this auditorium
make sure that now you're standing on
for a good year make sure think I'm
going to make sure when we do something
when we have a kan in a couple months
from now I'm going to make sure to
include those less popular girls. I'm
going to make sure if I'm in charge of
I'm going to make sure to bring them
with me on Sundays when we go out. I
said this will guarantee you a greater a
great year better than anything else you
can do
because if you have them back on
you this is what gets me the most
passionate about you know this. So going
back
to that said either either I'll die he
couldn't either and when he
says he says either I have a friend that
gives me
respect is respect or else I'd rather
die. This is exactly what the alteratka
used to say that if a person feels that
he's
worthless, his nish would depart from
his goof. He would drop dead because a
person who has no respect, feels no one
thinks good of him. They want to that's
why they're depressed laying in bed
because they're not getting any
friendship. So I like to tell this I
like to bring out when I speak to boys
to teenagers or boy or girls. I tell
them as follows. I say, imagine you're
standing on a street and it's pouring
rain and there's cars passing by and no
one's giving you a hitch. Now the person
gives you a hitch. They did a mitz of
you feel very bad that you didn't get a
hitch. Is it going to enter your mind
that if I have to walk in the rain, I'd
rather die?
No. Imagine a a wife who does can't get
supper ready one night. Is she gonna
feel like because I can't I don't have
supper ready I'd rather die. No. No
normal person will think like that. But
yet the gamur is saying and the is
amplifying it that if a person feels
that they have no friends they would
rather die. So this is the greatest this
is the ICU level to show them
friendship. And if one person this will
affect from the book it's worth it.
Listen, you you reframed the way people
look at and this is something that's
mentioned in the forward and then
mentioned throughout the book that you
don't have to be the head of a colossal
global organization like high lifeline
or and so on to do
genuine and and you you're helping the
individual is on not is not on a lower
level. It's that level of
supreme and
um what a book. What a book. You've done
a you've done an unbelievable job. It is
so gishmach to read. It is broken down
into what is it about 103 chapters,
right? And I would say it's 103 chapters
and I would say there's a couple hundred
stories because there are many chapters
that have many chapters that have
multiple stories. Multiple stories and
the chapters are short enough. I would
mention that it's perfect for a Rebia
teacher in a classroom if they need a
daily lesson. This book is tailor made
for that and it's very down to earth. So
I think it's great for and I and I will
go back again to what you said Miss
Nestlebound gets a lot of credit how she
had had the had the skill to make it
very easy to read. She's very
magnificent. She's a master at what she
does at making it very easy to read. I
would say for Rabonim for drussas it's
fantastic and really for any individuals
whether for Shabas table if people want
a a book that's light in terms of how it
reads but that's so filled
within and and quality reading this is
it it's very lightem it is light which I
think is a because you're writing about
a very substantive topic which somehow
you know a book could get dragged down
you're talking about a very it's very
important And that's why it's also
important that each piece is short,
right? Right. Because, you know, I would
try very hard to keep pieces short that
you can read each piece by itself,
right? So, you know, I would I would ask
you when volume two is coming out, even
though I know you're just catching
catching your breath on volume one. I
want to make a recommendation. I think
that uh I'm going to say this here
first. I think a youth version of this
book, whether for kids or for youth,
would be very popular. I don't know if
you thought about that yet. In fact, my
myin Rabbi Prinsky um who's a manal in
liquid for the younger grades liquid
right so I gave him one as a gift and he
called me up and says I have a you give
me so much material of stories that I
could do to young kids so so maybe that
is an idea so maybe that is an idea um
it's really wonderful thank you for the
time that you put into this book I would
call it a safer really I just don't want
to scare people off because it's a safer
but it's but it's but it's very easy
reading Right. That's what we were going
back and forth with Miss Nestlebam. We
didn't know should we call it story
number one, lesson number one, share
number one because it's a story that has
a lesson, right? So, we just left it
neither. We just numbered the way you
did it was was perfect. Yeah. And um you
should continue to be and I want to take
it up to me again to thank you because
bottom line is if you wouldn't have kept
on persisting, I'm telling you, you got
to put it in writing. You got to put it
in writing. You got to put it in
writing. That's what you know. Thank you
for that. Thank you for your yidas. I I
I I'll be honest. I just I sh from what
you did and and I felt that the world
needed it and the world is a better
place because of this book. I hope so.
Many people should benefit from it. You
should continue with your
wonderful and the tremendous that you
give to people. Amen. And I'll just add
on that um the same way you were makazic
me with this book, you should be mazic
many more authors. Amen. Thank you again
and thank you for coming down for this
conversation. My pleasure.
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