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Hello everyone and welcome back to
inside art scroll where the books you
read and the people who write them come
to life. Today it's a unique privilege
to be sitting with Rabbi
Shai close Talmud of the Godor
Revski. We're sitting here just several
weeks after
Rev's. So it's a privilege to speak to
you but it's also difficult because it's
hard to put into words exactly what
you're feeling. Tell us what is it
that's going through your mind. Your
became such an important part of your
life. You spent literally years at 23
bench. Tell the world what's shy feeling
today. So first of all when I flew m
Shabas leaving Israel I had a min that
every single time before I fly I'm going
to to theb to get a I think that 40 50
times one time told me not to fly and of
course after I saw that was a miracle
but just going on a plane and not
passing I went to the grave. I went to
the grave. I say to him, but not getting
the bra and
smile. It was hard. It was hard. You
know, it's it's you it's a feeling that
you lost everything you had. Wasn't just
of
course was our
father. Was our
doctor was our lawyer. every single
thing, every single question, whatever
we needed, whatever we had, we went to
and didn't speak a lot. He didn't it was
a word, two words, a smile. Yes. No.
Bua, but that that was that was our
life. And it's very very
hard. It's not easy. But coming here and
even not believing that I'm the new
safer on the it says zatal but for sure
that's
the of continuing and and doing what the
told us to do and that was important for
him to be
for day and night because I always told
people and everybody's asking me on the
plane and wherever I
I I told I'm telling everybody could
have locked his door being in his house
learning day and night every
single mo every single charity whenever
they came to and they used to ask him
for a where they're going
to always used to
write they should let me learn and
everything on that on that note let me
ask you the last time we had a
conversation
We did an interview. We reminisced a
little about the history of how you got
involved and you became a Benias by God
which is quite unique. How many years is
it since you first went? So the first
time was 18 years ago. 18 18 years ago
and when we started or with art school
right then that was the the secret key
to get in of course
with you with tremendous persistence and
even a little you went to's house you
started hanging out there somehow you
became a bambias many people probably
wonder or ask you you know it's very
nice that you want to have a kesh but
where do you get the audacity to just
sit there with him. There's a picture
that went around after the of you
sitting with on Kipper I think a few
hours before Colid both of you were
wearing your your your K and you're
saying to Him and people probably wonder
to themselves who who has the sit at the
table or God. What would you say to
those people? So I'll tell you a ma that
I had there was a person that had a
problem in his business and he called me
that he needs a he needs a from the so I
went to the first time and I said that's
the situation what should he take upon
himself that he should
have so said he should learn shass I
went back to that guy learn shass is was
hard and And I went two days later and
I'm asking the same question, the same
name. I called the guy. The guy says,
"Listen, me to learn chass not going to
happen. But I have a we'll take aim and
theim will learn the sh and they'll get
the they'll give the guy the he's going
to pay it and the is going to give him
the so I went back and I told her says
learn I
said if the guy takes aim and he pays
them money will he get
no I
said and
says there's
no if you want if you have things work
out you're going to get there you're
going to get there and that was one
story but
always he didn't
say but you saw in every single day
every single morning when he woke up
after when I used to come once 1 1:00 at
night, 2:00 a.m. every
single
step. So that's what we saw. And I think
and I believe that seeing it and being
there and trying and pushing that that
was the that was the
power and and I wanted it was it was it
wasn't easy. Did anyone mind that you
were kind of there all day every day?
You know, did you ever get any push back
from Let's Let's not go into this, but
it wasn't easy. It wasn't
easy.
And it's Did ever say make comments to
you that you know, you hear all the
time?
No, you used to say a
lot
and like kind of things that okay, you
asked enough today. Uhhuh. But in a nice
way, you would tell me. But but it was
it was it was a special special feeling.
It was a special kesher and it's it's
the biggest I ever had to be there day
and night special the last days and and
and purim
every it was it was it was special after
the you know thousands maybe I don't
know how many videos went out of doing
this saying that many of them featured
you you asking the ro different
questions but perhaps the most poignant
video that people were very moved by is
a famous video of and rebbitson saying
answering a to each other. There was
such a unique dynamic in their
marriage. Tell us about that. What what
did you learn from
and about the relationship between
husband and wife? Obviously they they
were each malim in their own way but
what did you see that you could share
with us? It was it was so first of all I
didn't see much because in that years
when the rabbitson was with the ro I had
very very small period of time being
there but what I heard and also the ro a
few times spoke it was it was it was she
the rabbitson was matel herself her life
for the ro and it doesn't matter I
remember the rebbitson having tremendous
pain tremendous pain even the last yum
kipper
her last kipper tremendous pain and like
she didn't let the rov feel any single
thing that she knew if he'll know it's
going to bother him. It's gonna it's
gonna make him it's going to make him
feel I don't know if he's going to stop
learning
but it's not just the learning. It was
the she was she came from a house of
revel and that was her whole life to be
vat herself to the ro with no no
nothing. She didn't go to weddings
because the ro needs to to eat. She
didn't go to her friends. Whatever the
ro needed she was there. and and
and that's how that's how close they
were and how special this house that
with all the pain with all the learning
everything they gave
this I'm not going to call it love or
something but they gave the the the the
tremendous amount of of of
of and just giving and giving and giving
and you He stood out the other way
around also. It was well publicized that
would never start eating until the
rabbitson came. Yeah. Right. That was
that because he showed a tremendous
amount of tremendous amount coveret for
her. The tremendous amount of coveret
and you know they always say you want to
have cover it starts in the house. You
know outside it's very very easy. But
inside the
house inside when they were there that
was something
you cannot find it today. You know it's
now after you started becoming a bambi
in Raim's house the last decade or so
really didn't speak that much right he
was he was very frugal in his words and
yet together with art scroll to put out
safer to safer to safer from
toim and now the newest safer is on and
many people may be wondering Ripshai
where in the world are you getting are
you getting all this material from from
a god who was sitting and learning the
whole day where did you manage to
collect all this material from so first
of all
there's tremendous amount of letters
that hasn't every single subject in the
Torah wrote letters to other people he
used to write letters people used to ask
him every single person he used to
answer and every single letter can be 10
questions 20 questions two questions and
All the letters are saved. So, but he
these are letters that he answered to
people. Answer to people. So, someone
made a copy of them before he mailed
them. No, the he Yeah. They used to send
the copies, but the original letters the
family has. Well, the original letter of
the family is help and there's a lot a
lot a lot of materials. Every single
letter is saved. So besides this, his
son Rabbi that was with him 11 years in
the house day after day and didn't leave
him. He has all the letters and all the
materials and we took this and basically
we put it
into he gave us materials. He he's the
one who every single s that comes out
every single story he goes through it.
He knows everything does and also you
have hundreds of stories literally
hundreds of stories and that's doesn't
end it doesn't end. And that's coming
from your tukshaw primarily a lot of
them also anacles that are helping us.
There's a few anacles that help us to
put out all the sorim bringing more
materials. We have people that used to
eat their chabases that the ros used to
say stories. Yeah. During the suda Yeah.
during the suda. So we got a lot of
things from there. So we have a lot and
we're just warming up. You're just
warming up. You're saying there's still
a lot more to come from from There's so
many. There's so many. Wow. Wow. So here
we finished this forum for Shabas is
getting ready right now and this safer
which just came out was really supposed
to come out anyway anyway before the
butitz had right away he said I have to
give for the I have to give and it
really really gave not only for the for
the son for the it really gave for
people having the sitter and I used
with
him every day but especially in the 40
days
of until you saw what is there's a lot
of things to say about but mo with his
finger in the word after word he didn't
dong he didn't you didn't see his hands
flying in the air you didn't see
something you know I didn't see crying
when he was a lot of drama yeah
But was so important. Now, it's
interesting. I pointed out last time
these that you're putting out with art
school in English is brand new material
that was never put out in Kadesh. Right.
A few of the things was putting out like
the we took
from the vorts that are but a lot of the
things are new. Let's say this is this
is new material. It's not a translated
safer. No. Which is unbelievable. Why
why would you think to go to the English
demographic before you would publish a
safer in Kadesh? I first of first of
all we took so many things if it's
the and the comments the emails and the
amount of people that are enjoying it
and a person is sitting in America and
he wants to get close to 23 it's hard to
get close so people feeling by learning
stuff and hearing the stories and
listening to the stories and all these
things together and having a nice
vort I felt that it's very very
important. It's interesting you
mentioned how everyone felt close to
everyone. It's an amazing thing.
Everyone everyone right after the people
started sending around pictures of
themselves with they posted on different
platforms. Every person started posting
and originally it bothered me a little
bit. Here you have
the and all a person cares about is that
he once went to 10 years ago with his
brim up and that's the picture he's
posting. So it rubbed me the wrong way
but only for a minute because I quickly
realized that that was the way that
people were associating with every
single person felt the connection to it
was an unbelievable thing. I I don't I
don't recall such a thing where every
single person felt I was bye I got a I
got a picture from you know you for you
it's mish like family because you lived
there but everyone really felt that
right everybody felt you're saying an
amazing thing I had the same thoughts in
the beginning right after like even
before shabas people started to post
pictures but that's
exactly ripe gave
love to other people's I'm not talking
just about Raboni Rashi Shivas Rash I'm
speaking about the people from the army
the people from more in people that came
with that communities a guy that flew
with me in all and he saw me with a
safer he's not sure and he has a
daughter that's not feeling good who's
this what's this can you please take me
and you take him and the guy starts to
be closer to Shabas closer to mitzvah
and and that's
from two words that told him two words
and he told him what to do say to him
how many pro one perh knew he saw what
should I tell this guy how should I tell
this and you just felt love gave people
love and it's not and even when he
didn't speak when people just came into
the room they felt right they felt they
felt this kind it's interesting because
initi even the non
non communities had a tremendous forim
they all respected it was like a very
very unique shabas when the body was in
his room in the room I'm very very close
to bi natanyao and he came there he came
there he said I have I need this this
praa and he comes there and he is only
talking about the one time that he came
to he remembers every single single
detail and it's not only him it's every
single person that ever came to you
cannot forget the the the the moment the
excitement the kesher the smile the love
that was that was you know I'm telling
the whole world it's such an interesting
thing that I'm speaking to you now for
uh quite a few minutes and we're talking
about the masid had we're talking about
the goador who knew but I keep hearing
from you about his and his so I'm
telling everybody
in the same level it cannot be different
that was I'm not talking about every
single matching today everything is
matching they're get raising for
buildings and they're doing campaigning
there's no campaign and that's a guy
that's working in this campaign and
telling me there's no campaign in the
world that didn't start in's house a
word what's going to be this one who's
going to help whoever's going to donate
it a
parasa every single didn't go and ran
and you know sneeze you have to learn if
you're not going to
learn he didn't do this things he sat in
his house he spoke in his bar mitzvah
and in his wedding he he didn't speak
right he didn't speak he sat down a word
a letter and that's That's it. The
Gansum
was it starts here and it ends here and
there's nothing to change. You know how
many times people tried even in COVID
when there was the hardest questions
doctors are sitting in the room doctors
and you know I'm s standing on the side
of course they wanted to throw me out of
the room I stand I said I'm not moving
okay and you see them explaining to this
thing or the vaccination vaccine came
everything and and decides
and z the final word done you cannot
move him you cannot not move him
whatever decided people wonder and I
think it's a legitimate question to ask
for us to try to understand
was mka from maza mka go right mamish mk
he didn't he and heav wanted it that way
there are many stories that say that he
tried to forget he d he said I'm I'm
ding he said it a few times I'm dvening
that I should have in my mind only tora
nothing else merely the
alma not street names nothing else
nothing else. So the people ask how did
someone
like have the ability to so effectively
guide cla on very very complicated
matter. He came, they explained the
politics. They came, they explained the
time saw, you know, his Gmorra is open.
He's giving an answer and it's finished.
It's done. It's there's nothing to talk
about. So where So where did that come
from?
whatever said came out
of says there's there's a famous there's
a famous letter eight years ago that
someone's asking how come a person is
coming now for a person doesn't have
children this one have grow your beard
this one on wine this one
givea every single say tell him learn
kushim every single person gets a
different answer so he wrote
called whatever comes out of my mouth is
from above. He wrote it that doesn't
matter. He writes about this also.
He writes when you come to sometimes you
see this one gets this answer. He says
it depends how much you have. When you
come to ask the god between me and you,
everybody knows when a person stands
himself with a sitter and he has a pure
amuna told me a few times it's it's
important it's not even a question went
but but when a person has that the
sitter he's ding now and he is answering
so he sees a
Yeshua a strange question and I hope
it's appropriate to
ask was selfaware here. Did he know that
the whole world revolved around him?
That looked to him? Did he Did he know
that? You're asking the question. I
don't know if somebody knows the answer.
Mhm. I don't know if somebody knows the
answer, but probably the real answer is
no.
He just he knew that people were coming
every day. People were coming. He went
to places 20,000. You know the last
event people are s he's sitting and
learning 10 20,000 people are and he's
sitting and learning that's what he has
in his life nothing
else before he went they told him
there's a few times they told him
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rebah we're taking you here there you
know so they explained to him it's going
to give a
big like they in that moment when he was
sitting in a big hall with 20,000
I don't really know if he what he felt
that time but he didn't he just he just
wanted to he just wanted to learn just
wanted to learn just wanted to learn now
you've heard many many stories you've
written many stories what what's the
story that you've heard of late
especially now you're probably being
bombarded with material people calling
you what's a story that jumps out in
your mind that's like unique everyone
knows the grasshopper story we know I
know Every story, every story is unique.
Every story is
special. Every single thing is is is the
the $2 story, you know. No. What's that?
So that the grandson told me that used
to have
and around 22 years ago, it got stolen.
Everything got stolen. The whole money
got stolen. And him and the rabbit, they
really didn't know what's the reason.
But said, "There's a reason. things
don't happen. Stop. There's no such a
thing, you know. Something happened. So
then he figured out that his
sister's sister had a whole Koopa with
money and she had her a $2
bill and a $2 bill and Raine gave
it. Rhine took the $2 and gave it. He
didn't think he said she needed money,
not a $2 bill. In that time, probably
the $2 bill wasn't. And he said that the
whole reason the whole reason that all
his money all his money got stolen and
there was a lot of money was zucker
money's money he said only because the
story. So what happened? The $2 bill was
not his to give. No he took it from his
sister. After that he went back. He went
back. He found the $2 bill. He went to
the mishbah. He gave it to them on the
shiva. The person came with that $2 bill
to show them. Here's the $2 bill that
gave back. And that was the whole reason
that he said that the money was stolen.
That the money was stolen. Wow. You see
what a person, you know, every day we're
having stories, the car, we're in a
traffic. This one, we missed a flight.
We're busy. The bank is not giving us
the loan. We're not getting this. You
know, every thing that was that was his
life. Thousands of stories. Everything
is with a reason. Everything is not
coming st there's no things. You have to
think, we have to know. We have to
figure it out. And we have to and that
was the really the underlying theme of
all his chu was that there's a reason
that things happen and if you're
something on yourself,
right? and the co every single time
there was something if there was attacks
bomb attacks if it was co he always used
to give a letter what's the what we we
have to be mis we have to be right and
gave to people you know I I told
somebody that he asked me what was the
biggest thing told a person to take upon
himself I says it's not it's not a right
question because gave every single
person an different answer and every
single person saw what what He needs to
have the and not only this never told a
person to do more than one thing. He
said the person take take upon yourself
10 and do it. Just do it every single
day. Every single
day every single person I have loan I
have loans. I have debts says I have
also I owe I owe I owe. What is
me? Every single
day saw and he told people take it and
go with it. And there's there's there's
no nothing
hard. If you'll do it, you'll be there's
nothing nothing hard. And that was that
was that was the gave the gave people
not only the of the or he gave people
hope. He he wanted people to change.
Even when he told people long sleeves or
have a shirt without a sign or a few
things that you know
sometimes but the most the real reason
you we have to change we can we people
come al you know kabalis not to be the
same person rash keeper the whole musian
but said you're not if you're a person
that's saying every single day now one
per you're not the same person so you'll
have a yeshua That was from my eyes.
Again, maybe there's other reasons, but
that's what I saw. That's what I saw.
2023 Rajam became the address perhaps
the most famous address in what's going
to what's going to happen now with now
we still have a net minion every day
every day in the house. Every day a
net's minion and people are coming there
to see the house. The
it's like a museum. I mean, is it same
thing? Everything is the same, you know,
and people could just walk in and look
around.
Basically, there's no times yet. Shakras
is open. Whoever will come to Shakas
will get in and there all the there is
is everything is there is not leaving.
It's it's a moes. It's it's staying
there and we're continuing what the RA
told us about the and which is what what
did he tell you about the that we should
we should publish as chu in the right
way. We're doing it in Hebrew. We have a
whole that we open it's
called that his son and his grandson
Yanke are running it now and continuing
continuing it and we're having a lot of
chas from the and every single subject
if it's
in if it's in and a lot of the stuff
we're taking also to the English
material we have aim that are sitting
and learning in it and it's going to be
a very very big thing and we're doing
all this from the house and
whatever told me including his famous
kucas that the rabbit used to do already
from the scipler and he got it and gave
it to his
son that the twice a year before pes to
help the families the with giving them
food and giving them what they needed
because always cared and he wanted
people to have what they needed even if
it's a smile and even if it's uh if it's
if if it's real food or any single thing
they needed. So the house is going to we
have to continue it. You know, it's not
like you're saying everybody felt so
close. Everybody everybody felt that
that and they felt a connection for
sure. A question. Now the last the last
18 years every single time you had a
Shila a question on anything you you had
an address to go to. Address. Not only
me, every single person. I used to get
30 40 emails a day, right? For every
single a business, there's a stock to
sell the stock, not to sell a stock.
There's a guy who needs to pay now $2
million or if not, they're throwing him
to give it or not to give it. Did ever
tell you, I don't know. Or did he always
have an answer? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. First
of all, if he didn't want to give an
answer, he didn't give an answer. So he
used to say bua bua bua but I didn't
give up you know I sat there and it was
hard for me to come to people especially
when there was really really hard
questions really hard without an answer
so I was begging the ro and the most
important thing is not only the begging
and getting the answer after a person
gets the yeshua I used to have to go
back to the I got it from my
father my
father he told me it's not my father's
close to and he told me that a few when
he goes back to that sadik and there was
a few sadikim I'm not going to mention
his name they stood up for my father so
they asked my father I asked what's
going on he says your father only
doesn't only come to ask sh ask shilis
and that's also where there's a good
news so we have to stand up for him you
sometimes we don't so you would go back
to and tell him there was a yeshua you
always told me what did he say?
He used to smile and say it. But uh even
a human being sat and learned I'm sure
when he heard it when a person didn't
have children for six years or a person
didn't have a sh for 10 years and they
got the Yeshua I don't even have a sick
that it made him feel good. Had a
tremendous sense of humor apparently.
Tremendous. Tremendous. Tremendous. It's
unbelievable because he
was but he had that kite all the time
but he was able to all the time all the
time all the time every single time I
used to ask him especially if it was
questions or when I asked him that I
want more children. So I told
him, so he
said only I says I I said I
have so he says you're going to have two
girls now and and a boy like he used to
he used to he used to enjoy he used to
speak it was hard it wasn't easy I'm not
saying it was easy but when you want
something and you you're pushing
and you have and I don't have a sick
that it's hard like you said and I I I I
still don't believe it, you know, and
especially you're coming to art school
and seeing the zatal it's it's it's hard
to see it. It's hard to believe in it. I
don't know what's going to be without
the seal, right? Without the wine,
right?
being their nates and seeing the row of
malik finishing the whole tora and it's
not just being in this I saw him
learning every day if it's
rasher times that you know people are
busy
and I'm sure with all this that is
watching us from above and he's looking
at us and and he's praying for us and
and if We're going to continue
publishing and doing the sid now and the
sid for shabas and more and more and
more. That's going to be for sure the
biggest biggest thing for him cuz that's
what he wanted. That was his his his
whole life is for him. How many wrote
with
122 really 122 122
my started with writing when I when I
came first time when he told me we spoke
about it. Yeah. He told me sit and learn
but write what you're learning. He told
me write and he wrote and he wrote and
he wrote for him and he wrote letters
for people and it was that was his life.
So we we need to continue it. We have to
continue it. The people people want
people want to to have the cash. So you
keep releasing and I'm sure that there
are people banging down your doors to
sponsor the who wouldn't want this to
sponsor a safer of how do you decide
what do you do what's the process so
first of all banging at the doors is now
when we started the first time I took
loans really we couldn't find and I
would never forget it that I went to and
I told him we're doing now and we're
working and the what's going to be. So
he told me like you
said we're working a month two months
Gdalia calls me new the safer what's
with the dedicator says we have to find
him I'm working on it let's see what's
going to
be and really two three weeks before the
safer is coming out I didn't know what
to do so I said I'll go to America for
one day my father got me some meetings
and I said I'm going to go go find the
sponsor so I'm flying I'm going to I go
to
the I
said they'll have a but I need the
money. Can you give me an should I grow
a beard what whatever the R tells me
I'll do. I'll finish. So the Rab looks
at me and he tells
me don't
push. I go to the airport and I sit in
my chair with this with the kisad and
start working out. somebody's sitting
next to me and we didn't even take off
and the guy took the sponsorship really
and since
then it's really really I feel it and I
see it and there's a lot of people who
want to dedicate it but I see that every
single and every single dedicator
there's a story every single dedicator
and now I believe that the dedicators
that are going to have this is people
that is now next to he is sending them
so Now it's not going to be hard to know
who's the one
but I saw tremendously just on this I
can write a book just on this.
So I rip I must tell you I think that
people are very grateful to you for two
things. First of all, you said
before and you showed people that if you
really want to have a kesher with a god
and you spoke about your history last
time how you you know you were the last
guy in the world who should have had a
sh at 23 bomb you a regular kid you
growing up but you decided this is what
I want and look how much you gained from
it but to magnify that out of that
relationship grew so
manyeshum that you're putting out.
You're
perpetuating legacy. You're keeping it
going and for that is very grateful.
So we thank you. It's it's special and
it's a it's there's no co there's
there's nothing. It's it's it's
pure and a lot a lot of dav with tears.
is that the rough should be
a for
you art school did
did amazing things especially the last
year for the kanyi families people know
1% but what he did and the whole family
of art school I don't even have a suffic
that this is standing and like I told
you we're just warming up it's going to
continue and we're going to vis do more
and more and more things. Amen. Thank
you. Thank you so much.
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