Inside ArtScroll Season 2 Episode 1: What is the Zera Shimshon Phenomenon All About?

[Music] Hello everyone and welcome back to Inside Art Scroll where the books you read and the people who write them come to life. Today we are privileged to be joined by Rabin Yaman Pashkus who has become somewhat synonymous with the Zerosimchin which I'd love to get into. So let's start right there. How did you get involved in the learning and the spreading of the safer zerin? I got involved seven years ago. Uh I worked in a mortgage company and I had some free time and I received um information on organization called where they had like 300 unfortunate couple don't have children all kinds of snag them and they they gave for these people they they used to give out they give out pamphlets and they used send them to hotels. They they help them out. And Rab my partner is is Rabbi Zilberg. He does all the all the writing and the har people and they do all the all the things there. And his father Rabi Zilberg is a rashiva in Aloha in Israel. He happened to be at a wedding in Toronto. And um somewhere in his table said the var from the zeros and we never heard the shimsh and next to him was brief who actually printed uh the zerosion over the first time he printed over I don't know the English date but um it was printed uh originally was printed a year before he passed away that's about 240 30 years ago and he gave out a cipher on Piras which is called to shims that he gave out about 20 years before. Mhm. And re masher printed her over he happened to find a cipher he went to and there was a lot of there old and they brought her back here and he just printed it over just the way it was originally. It's very hard to read this everything you know I have the original print and he start telling about this shimshin and uh he went back to Israel and this rais unfortunately didn't have children for a couple of years and he had a partner there that didn't have children for 15 years and this fat is gulafer shimshin tell your friend that maybe you know we should publicize it we should try to get out to the world now when you say that's a schooler It's not you know that's that's what did he mean by that? What do you mean? Okay. I have to tell you you know I got a call from a lady in Lakewood and she asked me about the information about Shimshin. I told his he was aim you know every medish he didn't have a computer those days and everything he knew you know by heart you know med all the medium is just an unbelievable cipher and and I said so he says unfortunately he had one child and he didn't make it there was a ber and he said these are my children he called them and told the shimsh these are my children you think the author of the zer [Music] was in Italy and he says these are these are my children. So he only had one son in his lifetime. He says, "These are my children." And the swarm and he begs in the cipher. He says, "Please learn my cipher." And you know, and he's not just ga I'm promising you that you can have children, you have children, you have life, you can have and you have a house full of goods. And um so this lady called me up. He says, "My my husband doesn't want he doesn't like sigulas for him." I said, "It's not a sigilla cipher. a cipher that's you know we have to be that that learn it every day it's a matter of fact I learned years ago and the rabbi here told me that his father he set up on this year we would we want to print that so you know people knew not everybody knew about it but the the sons the He knew about it. Also, I'm I'm from Minkach. I I I come my my parents, my father and mother, I'm from the Proing family. They all were were born in Minkach. They came to America in 1938. My grandfather was Rabbi Muliger. My mother's mother, my father's father was blazkus. He was from the first two of the satbi. They lent him and his brother liel and um you know came to America. You know, my my my mother parents got married. Uh my father put on my mother put on a sh I went to see it. It was, you know, on to Shindala. That was what was that the 1942, right? The 42. So we going back to what we're saying. So um so they they didn't have children for for a while and his father said this is gula cipher cipher. So they they try to find it and they couldn't find it. The bottom line is you said we have to reprint it. we have to reprint the cyra and uh there's a in Williamsburg there's a rabel actually who he was in the kashabish now he has zmedish and he saw he happened to see the cipher reprinted then he was married also for seven years and he saw it says there that he went over to the kasharov he says look what it says you know what what do you think what do you think I should do he says I think you should reprint it and also take money from people don't have children. There was like four or five couples, his friends. I think each one gave $1,000 and uh they all got helped. He spent probably 50 $60,000 to interpret, you know, in the Zim, the old original one, everything is one piece. That's why you put them out. McCoy is you know me everything in his head. So, you know, they put him out. It was very big job. It took him a couple of years, but once they started working on it, they started doing it, they all got helped. And uh a matter of fact, there was another couple that didn't have children and they he didn't get money. He said, "I'm going to buy a box of food. I'm going to give it to the shoes." He also got help. So we, you know, that's how it started out with, you know, with children. But he says everything. I I had once a call from Lake says, "How about chulias?" He says he has a problem with chias. He doesn't say anything about chias. I says, "I don't know." He says, "A house full of goods." I don't think if you have the rational buy it's called a house full of goods. So uh I don't know what the end was but I'm sure he had chias afterwards. So basically that that's how we got involved and I I volunteered says why could I help you know you know I had some extra time. So, so that's how we got involved and we started reprinting the the and every year we make a suda make a suda there and it's going on for a couple years already and one year we we gave our for free we we gave we gave him cipher and we heard a couple couples got got help then and that safer was there on on No, we g we gave the total on are those the only two swarm that were and and it's one volume onto two volumes. Two volumes two volumes two volumes about 1,600 pages and a couple hundred pages. I'm pretty it's people ask me to interpret the English that's not so easy at pil English is I don't know if everybody play yeah I think there are but it's not not so easy but uh we're going to start taking our words from there you know. Mhm. Maybe arts schools do us. We'll see. We'll see what we do. That's what we're doing here. That's what we're going to get into. That's what we get into. So, basically, that's how we started out. You know, it's been seven years already. And um when we started doing this, I have a lot of requests English. I was born in America. You know, I English. I hate to say I graduated in the fifth grade because you know our times, you know, we wanted to learn but you know, we couldn't do it oursel in English. Where where did you grow up? In I grew up in Williamsburg. Williamsburg. I went I went close on Lee Avenue 131 Lee Avenue went to Shiva and then I went to uh there was no such thing as as Katana we went to Israel you know that time the rabbi moved to Israel to and then we went a year later so you went to yeshiva sounds was there for two and a half years at that time there was no phone calls and there was no it wasn't like that you come back for you come back you stood there for years and then then you came home so you came home at what age. Yeah, I came home was 17 years old. I went to me. I went to for three years. Reb was right. Of course. Sure. I never forget he used to say it was he was in the dark. He said, you know, usually he had something in front of him. So he had he had to know it by heart. He said, you know, it was interesting. You know, there was a old good days in Mish. We used to call it hotel. It was a yeshiva that that that you could do whatever you want. You learn, most people learn. It says in in the he says one of the reasons is because some people cannot learn under pressure. pressure you want. So there was they learned it was a very you know big a lot of file was there was a lot of going came out of the yeshiv you know was a before my uncle was a big but walpin you know all all these all these rish they learn in um going back to so basically you know we we going back Shimshin uh we started you know we started request you know to do it in English and so we met you know uh why did I go I heard he wrote an article 2007 he wrote an article in in in the described there was a big mis in Manchester a whole story with you know they gave up on him and he started for that was the story that that he wrote over there and himself didn't know that second time I met was 2014, seven years later and I got calls from people that had Yeshis because they started learning Zim from from his original his original article in 2007. Uh so then he re he revisit he put another article in Amadia revisited the shiman uh 2014. It took me two years to convince him to write a book but u just unbelievable. the first book he wrote uh probably sold 20,000 25,000 copies and people are reading the stories and we get compliments you know and to clarify that that first book he wrote and then a second subsequent book those books have from followed by a story that he some stories relate to and some are just from just to bring out the message to bring out the message bring out the message yeah and uh you know we we did it and we didn't we didn't believe that this is going to happen because once the book came out you know the phone call didn't start and people want to help but what else can we do and you know it's just just unbelievable now you know seven years later it's now 2021 tomorrow's the new year it says from from the from the that we could say a good year because rides we're going if they have a good year it's also so we could say you know it should be a new You know, you know the old American people, my mother sh was a new year. They I think they went to time square. There was, you know, the old Americans, you know, there was a any case you have a new year. So basically uh it became a first you know and people people are seeing is you know I told you before we could write a book just of we did we did give out uh we did a beer on and also on there is um in parishion the medish says that is a so he wrote a parish on every pik he wrote his own parishes we gave a whole cipher from that and the back we have even in the two volumes you also start out in you know with the Shia and basically this day we can't even write so much because a lot of you know but you know there's always interesting stories which we can talk about soon uh of interesting iss that we see from people learning you know people you know I can give us a shas I got a call from someone from lakewood they think the English one helps also the English one helps you know it's you know kadusha means it's it's holy words so uh I I said that the you I got a call. There was a girl as she was 25 years old in in Lakewood. She looking for a shik and nothing was moving and when when gave out his book uh on each parad she said I'm finishing the whole book. She finished the whole book and as soon as she finished it they talked to two weeks later she was engaged. So I know it helps. I mean Hashem gave the toy height of 70 languages. M 70 languages you know you know it's you know we're in America you know so that that's the it's the language we speak now many people who are not familiar with the author of the are surprised to hear that he lived quite a while ago he lived 240 years ago 240 years ago at the same time as same letters going back yeah same time what who are the some of the other contemporaries and I was going to ask you is there any correspondence between some correspondence I think is a bro there is some correspondence between him and all the yeah you said he was a god where did he live in Italian Italy in Italy and was he a rabbitic figure in Italy yeah he was a figure he wrote cheer you he did a lot from him you know do we know much more about his background and his history yeah it's it's it's all written up it's all written up in in the art school sitting up in our you know we gave out since then we just gave out a mir which was an explanation you on like our school we just took out the nish para too you know it's it's a big volume you know we are not our school so we can't afford to do the whole thing but we're working on it we're going to have eventually like shinish eventually we're going to have that also but we gave out we gave out migill was beautiful we did in Hebrew and we worked with them we gave them the dorra from from the shimsh and they did it in English and you know we're we gave out a till we took together from all form when we gave it a tumm and uh we gave it out the like I said and so we we're constantly doing now now somebody's making and he wants to give a for the ladies he's giving the and he wanted something said we'll do a bench so we got together you know all the so one of my mitz is next week and one of them is in it's interesting You know, we're talking about certain shears. There was a guy by the name of Josie Weinberg. I think he lives in Barack. He lives. He made a year and a half ago in in Long. And he called me up. He says, "I want to give for the men. I want to give the Shir with a beer and I want to give for the ladies a." So the man was blue on the for ladies. He made it white. He said, "Fine." Well, we printed made a special print, you know, in the front cover. where he put his name the and he gave it out by the and the kala has an uncle in Israel he came to the kass roof I don't remember his name he came to the kass and he he took he took the two swarm one for his wife one for him and he put in his telephone number into into the cipher he took it home and for somehow he must have a lot of sw put he put a couple of swore a box of two swarm in the storage I guess in Israel in the cell and a guy came there he thought it was you He saw for him in the basement whatever he thought it's he so he took the cipher the ash and he started learning every day twice a week whatever and he didn't have children for nine years within the year that he started learning the cipher he had a boy little boy after nine years and he called up this uncle that came from he thanked him very much for making heer his cipher that I got helped so the guy says to him there wasn't in Africa. It just happened. You took it. There wasn't. But Hashem has his ways of of of of making something happen. He put it in storage. He went to Kassan and we printed and he got it. But uh basically, you know, like you say, Saddic promises that uh and we see we see many sometimes it's it's it's fair, sometimes it takes a little longer. You know, it's like like all all other Yesh, you know, you say 40 years 40 days, you get helped. A lot of people say say I had one one of my daughters were about 27 and uh somebody told me from big makibble I should say 40 times she in one shot 40 times you know what that means for without any he can't go to the nothing it took me like four and a half five hours I did it for now I don't know if he's tell me to do it again I don't know I don't know if I could do it again but I'm trying to bring out it took another year and a half till she got engaged but sometimes you know this the thing is a minute. If you believe you see the right away, you know, you have to have a minute you pull you pull the but there's no clue this you know people 40 days you know you learn once twice a week there's no there's no there's no it all depends why do you think that the he wrote laid dormant for so many years that people didn't know about it it's an unbelievable thing he lived in the 1700s we're holding now tough and now it just seems like this movement is growing and growing. This project I should mention for our viewers is a is just the beginning. This is the first volume on fully elucidated meaning the our here at art school took the Hebrew text of the translating every single word with a commentary on him. very clear, very and a synopsis at the end of each section. Like you said before, everything is divided and this is just the first of what's projected to be a 10 volume project. Uh we're coming out now with this is just came out. Then we're coming out with Isra. It's going to be out in time for this cycle. Then we'll be jumping probably to Dvarim and eventually finish it over the next two years. But my question is why in your mind you're being you've been so involved. Why do you think that this phenomenon has kind of just sprouted now and this is a treasure trove of and insights from a god? What's what's the explanation? Well, it it says everything is a mas that comes time even you know you see people don't read in it and that that you read every day so it's basically there comes a time people need unfortunately you know I mean you know I get involved in that it's just unbelievable what's going out you know uh I get calls I I get a call from Mo Shaw's a boy from Washington he's 50 years old he said I can't take it anymore I didn't want to I don't ask personal questions but what do you do by 35? What you do by 40 by 45? Why why are you calling me when you're 50 years old? He said I just heard about the maybe you could help me. What can you do? I said you know listen you know I we'll learn for you. We have in in in we we have a coil every Thursday night. Rab Zberg's brother he says a shir every Thursday night from 8 to 9 and we we have over a million there and we mentioned we we say the whole tim every Thursday night which means we divide it the 15 people everybody says thank so it doesn't take too long and we mention names people that need you know we constantly you know that's unrelated to well we learn oh you learn then you say after but before we start to learn we mention that these people need and happens in you know he promises you learn with you know and it's constantly you know starting you know that we don't even know like I mentioned before Rabbi David Gulbaser less than a year he started I guess he heard about the shimshin and people got together let's let's try to do a shir and he has over a thousand listeners besides all the others at 4:00 daily sh daily for five 10 minutes he takes out a piece of and he says a story to it and every day it goes through their telephone system every day at 4:00 I get a 4:00 I call he says and it's it's very interesting. So you know the thing about that is you know they say why is why is what's different is you know you get up in the morning you know you go to you finish the day you go to m but in middle of the day you know 3 4:00 now is early you know you early you go you take out your time and and you that's is you know everything that so the same thing here in the middle of work you know you stop everything and you listen 10 minutes then you go back to work. So it's a big issue and you know every day you know you don't have to pick up the phone but I try to pick up phone you know as much as I could. Now if people out there want to find out information about the Yeah, we things like that. Is there a clearing house? Is there anyone who we have? We have a telephone line that we say a shir every day. There's a she for 5 10 minutes. There's a she giving in in Hebrew and English and and kesh you know. Uh so we there are we have we have a telephone line. It's a free line, you know. Call it's a local line. It goes to to to call in Israel. We have our own line for zer cuz I can tell you people definitely want information and we were joking before when we were walking around that people call art scroll asking for pashk do I reach by pashkas I want information so obviously people are trying to reach you know people call you all the time the day of the earth we're giving out now a safe yish it's in print it should be ready in about two weeks was a big de we give out we give out a gillion every week in a couple was six day of that this is your and we make a seed in Israel. the one of there's a loin uh it's called sorry sorry what if there if the yard sites an why do you make your suda every year on tubish we do two of them we do tashad is good that have children so they start out in tubishwat and then they do twice a year they do but tishad is the biggest one the biggest you know a couple hundred people come my birthday also very very good very good and um so we you know pe people people are constantly calling you know there's this you know going back to the question why I became a fer because people are seeing you that's how it is you know people see and everybody you know who does who doesn't need who doesn't need my I'm a sp whoever doesn't need you is for his friend whoever whoever knows that everything he has for everybody needs something we need we need we need my uncle we need everything we need children we need we need we need everything we need everything he needs everything and The first piece of the he says it says it be good for you in this world and he says it has to be good on this world to be good on the other world. If you don't have money if you don't have if you don't have you know you can't you can't do anything. So whatever we ask for is is because we want to learn everything it has to be good of course that you know that they had but we were not in that we need everything and then Hashem helps you know you know it's tough times it's unfortunately when the when the corona virus started the phone didn't stop ringing phone stop ringing for Yeshua or people Yeshua she is yeah what could I do what could I do I say pray for me um yeah but the interesting One of the veteran art scroll editors, yeah, a beloved editor is Mrs. Miriam Zon. She lives in Aritis and she writes a lot of the texts that we use for and books. And she had a line she said she wrote, "They came for the school and they stayed for the Tyra." It's a beautiful line because many people are attracted by the schoola like like you said people need Yeshua in all different realms parosa nakas shidim children etc and that's what I'm hearing now that this safer came out the zerosion elucidated from art scroll is that people are saying hold on the schoola is one thing but the tyra is beautiful so talk about that for a second the depth and the beauty and the kushim and of desert. the rashivists in Israel Abdon Seal and other rashs they said they started with this like he said and I told the questions that he that he asks and the answer that he says is just it's just unbelievable unbelievable unbelievable you know it was just and he says you know we start from top to bottom says you start eight days to one and and says you count one to top what's what's the and the says very similar but it's he says the says two two why why we have eight days one of the ways that the n was that they put in the full the full oil the question is what's was the first day so they put in they put in all the oil and every day only an eighth went down and another ter is that they they they put in a little and it burned the whole night went up so he said that's because the bash the bash says the nest was went down that's why you count down and the basil says no add up burn they burn for so it's simp answers it's just all the questions and then the answers people are so you know you know it's a skill but he says learn my he didn't say he didn't say that you know for learn I'm going to help you know you know you know we have no idea what means when we say in heaven we don't know we don't know what goes on there but one thing we know that you know people you see all the him and you know say to me light a candle you know and you know so it's and we see it should continue before he asked the question nobody knew about it the minki we come from mink he said he has the zerion from the muzz you know which passed away passed away what up to 80 you know 90 years ago he has the original cipher from the mink yeah I want see it yet because I I'm going to write it in. I want to see it. So, I have to get him my friends to take a picture. I don't know if I could do that, but uh I'll try to borrow. Does anyone have the original manuscript of the There's some there's a couple of copies here, but we have a copy of the original and the the original published published. Does anyone have the No, not people are asking. I have a lot of calls, where's the Kyver? Where's the KY? You know, they really don't know because what what happened is and the place they buried him, it was out of the city. But by the time the city grow grew and became middle of the city so they were they took away the whole place and they they took it somewhere else. So we don't know if they he has a mat if they bring them together in Italy in Italy we nobody knows no the people we know they did a lot of research nobody knows but it says the says you know you learn a cipher from that that is just like you go on the scene the says in in Shabas he says if you go you learn that cipher is just like you went just like you went down on the so you know he doesn't say anything come to my he says learn my and you see it you know you see you see it It's beautiful to you know we give a guy a gillian in Yiddish I was talking about how what happened by the side there there's a line called sham that ladies every day for a phone was that a phone line a phone line every day there's probably sometimes you you can listen how many people you can see there's about 200 ladies listening Monroe Williamsburg bor Israel and they say I told you they say tit them together then so basically at the day of the earth somebody somehow said that we're going to print decipher in Yiddish from 9:00 in the morning till like4 to 12 the phone did not stop ringing a whole day money in so that now we finally got to it then you know we we started working we give out a gillion every week in Yedish and English and Hebrew but the cipher is different the cipher you know so it's going to be finished you know and before we we we it comes out we're going to have to reprint it again the demand is so big you know even to me the somebody said to you know, I understand like it, but the Yiddish I don't have to think. I could say with the Shab I straight straight from there. I I don't have to repeat it. So basically, you know, and like we said, there's no there's still people that never heard of I get calls who what who is this? But I know with art with all these things hopefully, you know, uh some more people learn. And um I I I call my source, you know, says, you know, I want to buy all the stores have it already, you know, just I said, are you involved in that? I said I don't know about my name is there in the book in the front at least you're definitely helping be but you were telling me before that there are some fascinating stories that you know share a couple let me share a story I I got an email about three years ago four years ago so I never knew he says looking for which means he's looking for a partner to learn okay send him back in says call me up. I ask him why do we have zer? He says that um he put in in Google sigula for children and it came out sigula for children you know there was probably an article and they put so he wants he says he says I'm 45 my wife is 35 he wants to have children he has a problem I said okay every Thursday night I'll make a sh with you okay so he started learning every Thursday night we started learning 10 15 minutes depends you know I became because when you learn for yourself you don't understand the word but I learned Hebrew you have to interpret to English and you know I take out the medish I take out the gammor so it was it was a big job for me to to to look through all these things you had to prepare before you no I didn't prepare for what because I didn't learn so I just open up a side whatever whatever I saw where this gentleman live he lived in Manhattan he lived in Manhattan he's an accountant and um he said okay I learned every every every every uh Thursday night we we're going to make a sh a year passed and he says to me new what do we do now I said you know what we have to reprint the Hebrew one give us you know half the price you know because you know we we we give for free also but we we sell they sell the stores pay half you pay every month you send a check every month the last month that he sent a check he had a little boy I went to the Brit was in on in uptown Manhattan in the west where on the west side went and that's another year appears he says yeah he says new no new you know you know he has children he see that he said you know what do we do now said you know what we we're reprinting the to like I said to you before uh about 18 19 years before he he printed the to first the basically the way the way it's written that every mission Vana he says he's saying this over here and he's saying something else in a different gamor he tries to relate it together it's you see he was he was unbelievable is it is it written differently than des a little different a little different you know it's nice you know you have to use the head you know you know it's a uh we didn't explanation that yet you know we're working on the tour but eventually alco will get there also I'll get there no question about we'll get the we'll get there's a lot to do and I said you know we have to redo it and you know also pay me half every month he sent a check in came you know and wouldn't in between he had a boy and a girl he has now three children he has a family and um so we know you know of course he do other schoolers we know we're not saying you know everything helps everything helps when I was in yes alen my grandfather will there was there was three three there age 20 to the Bulligers and myself were first cousin double cousins. My grandfather said $6 those days. $6, $2 for each. He wrote down in English every penny helps. So So I'm trying to say everything helps. You know, you don't you don't know. You know, we we we see she is and you know and and health and you know you know we could talk parosas you know we have uh there was a a place that used that used to used to print zeros and happens to be my brother you know we used to give out color copies you know in the good days color copies couple we print every week in Israel about 15,000 copies we print and it goes in you know all that's for your organization that's oh yeah that's what we print yeah and we We in in Shalam in all the shoes they have a place there in gula where you pick it up but we have all these it go it goes all it goes all over and uh you know we do this and you know we're doing a lot of things people people you know are uh helping you know we couldn't do it ourselves but like I say you know money is not the issue money is not the issue people want to give and they see she is uh but so you know we we see stories of a lot of you know there was there was in in New Square there There was a group of older boys, you know, square older boy. If you're 19, you're a you're older boy. And basically there was the four book and one guy found about the school he had borrowed his friend like four book within two months became engaged. So that's that's the you know couple learn so the you know you know a lot of them tell you know try you know learn it's it's a limit. It's not something you know you know he's not asking you to fast. you know learn you know uh there's no limit I said there you will learn every day you know it's it's there's not nothing fixed you know he doesn't say how much you have to learn and you know how much money you have to give but what whatever you do is is is acceptable you know a cynic might ask and I hope you don't mind me asking this someone someone asked me this are you afraid when when you're when you're so to speak selling a schoola which I know you're not you're selling the the desire but the scholar is a major component people that's what people talk about. Mhm. Is there a fear that we're selling false hope? You know because everything there bunch of has this of what he does and when he does it and who gets blessed with which blessings in life and there's not no guarantee I know I understand the author of the should whatever that means but how do we present that to the public in a way that they shouldn't have false hope and understand that when we do things for a school at the end of the day is going to do what's best for us. So, how do you balance both? And I'm sure this is a question people ask. Yeah. So, basically what you say is that when you learn the cipher, you're not learning it for the school. You're learning because the Mab said, "Learn my cipher." I'm asking you, you know, he's begging you with 10 10 languages of of of that's what he says. Do me a favor. Do me learn my cipher and I'm going to try to help you. I'm you know, he says, "So, basically, you know, you learn to a lot." I mean, you know, if you come in the world to come, people don't realize what's what's going on there, you know. you know I didn't do this I didn't do that but you know you learn you help somebody else learn somebody else you know there was now a guy in flatbush that he's some kind of help and you know he says how could I help you know what could I print I says there was a lot of thing working on print but now what you can help is you know take a cipher you know and you know we'll give out 200 copies and we put in a sticker for his hope he has the raff but you know whatever you do you know whatever you do you don't you're not learning the cyber because you know he says you learn the cyber because he I asking to learn it and you you know pick up you know it's a you know we we have no idea what it means you know you learn my Toyota we see from all all the they say you know learn my Toyota say Toyota you know it's it's it's a hishmak learning you know it's especially hard piece once you understand it it's gishmak so you don't you don't it's not a school cipher it's just you learn the beautiful there you know if you like the good part of of the art school now is that they at first they have the original on top, right? So if you if you're understand exactly where look on the bottom. So that's that's very very good. Uh I I I there's a guy every every every you know I just bought here two copies. We have we have two copies of of the article English and Hebrew and there's more learners the more learners there. So every time two he buys two more two two more learners and there's a guy who packs his form there before we start learning. says please tell the people that now we should try to live without our school without our school. Try to live without our school. You know people get so used to it you know unfortunately you cannot live without the art school but you have to know how about you know you can't you can't your child and see with you need you need the original. So, uh, I'm still trying. I I I cheated. I looked into it. But now already I'm stuck someplace. I got to look at the article. You know, it's not that that I, you know, I learn a lot a lot in the article. But the truth of the matter is if you learn a lot and you learn it through and you have some questions and you open up the art school and get slid because I cannot learn art school because it's so much stuff over there and you get to you have to learn the you have to learn not. You saying that are you applying this to zeros as well? I don't know in general because people do say to zeros when you learn it without an art school translation. It's a hard it's hard. Yeah. But the good part is the good part of it is that you have on on top you know you can learn right on top which is a very good thing you can learn on top and you can learn. So the truth on on the on it's not a problem on top of but on the Goro if you want to remember you remember going show we could show the viewers really is beautiful so the readers could see if the camera is catching this but this is on top the desertion and then you have and then there's the elucid elucidation which is explanatory and then notes on bottom and then over here this is what I was talking about before every approach of There's a summary. It's written beautifully. Not long ago, we had a group of from Lakewood who came for Kaneka for Kaneka here. They got together. We gave them a tour of the binder and I asked a couple of them what are they working on? They told me they're working on this. It's a major major project. A huge number of working on it. So this is uh a tremendous undertaking and very exciting and uh and there's an increase in limit. That's definitely no question. No question. There was a rash in Lakewood probably three years ago and um he he had a couple of tal that didn't have children. He started making sheim and um I don't know how many got helped but a nice couple of couples got helped. He wrote us a letter. I I have his he said he wrote the story that I and people got into it and you should know they all he said a couple of you know they got helped and he says he signed him saying that it's that it's true. Mhm. People ask you know we hear stories you know we give out every every week and not every week has a story. So people said we need every week we need you know it brings a minute brings it I said I don't make up stories you know every story we have it has to be firsthand I cannot say one guy said that that I have to you know firsthand and you know we have to know who what the name you know we don't write the names but we have to know who who's this person so I said I make up stories you know we're not a money-m place you know if we have a story you put it in but uh you know we see every day every day we hear stories you know and posa and gaze this week somebody pulled up and um he he gave money and I started telling him you know this said don't you don't have to tell me I saw many issues you don't have to tell me anything I guess you know some people have to say anything but some people you have to explain you know going back to the day the day the said I mean I was on the phone the whole day you know because you had these these excuse me these and they tell you and you know one guy I mean it's it's hard to believe what's going on but it's unfortunately there's a lot a lot of problems out there you know but is is one of the biggest problems older boys and older girls and I'm not a but I try to match something I try to I try to do something but Hashem should help this he promises and uh you know I whenever I' I've personally many issues whenever there's something in the family I light I light a candle Imm works it works this is this what you're doing full time now. I learned the coil. I have full time. Where is that? What do you learn? I don't get paid, but I I sit there from daytime. You dree times a day. You know, it's right across the street. You know, you mentioned your she passed away three years ago. Yeah. Three years ago. Three years ago. And then then she helped me, you know, she she you know, she she used to learn. And she says, you know, where's where's she children and you know, she had a nice life. You know, she say, you know, we said we we don't ask any questions. You I'm sure that taking care of taking care of her in the other world. And then people ask me, did you ever dream of you ever dream? I said, I don't I see him live all day. I don't have to dream of him. I see him. I see him. I don't have to dream of him. But you know, it's it's it requires a lot of time and a lot of requests. People asking for pocket stars. I want to have I want to go in my tal every every day when I go someplace. I want to have a I said we have to guildian. You know I don't walk out. I have I have my pocket you know I always keep it. I'm coming to art school is you know this way if you have any time you're able to a little behind sometimes you know I most of the stories I write up and I send Israel and he he fixes it up. He makes it to read. I I write you know it and he he does some more research. It sounds like there's a lot more work to be done besides the art scroll volume. Maybe the art scroll should be put out as a gillion also for people to be able to read on the go. I guess one thing at a time. Yeah. One volume at a time. And now somebody's giving out a gillion from all the so the first one is every week he gives out takes out from there from the from the all the all the all the all the promise if you learn this. So it comes a separate new comes out. It's nice there's a lot to do and a lot to be done and the should continue really and like we said the main thing it's learning it's not you know that's we're learning we have that that you know new color you know without a computer without you know everything was in his head you know it was and so we thank you thank you for your efforts in building up the zeros phenomenon this volume right here and the whole set could very well not have come to fruition without your efforts together with Rabbi Seltzer a wonderful arts school writer Zilber Zilberg I don't know if there's anyone else you want to mention I mention because he really he really put in a lot of effort I mean you know $60,000 in this 31 years ago 31 years ago you know he put a lot of money a lot of effort and bam you know you know I took it over him but he still gets every every every set we sell we give Now we try, you know, now he's doing a maf he's doing, you know, and you know, if someone wants to look up a gum or whatever, you could see it right away. You know where it is. You know, there's still additions. You know, we're going to reprinted, right? I want to mention also the house family sponsored this volume and this is the zam edition of that's leish wolson which just passed out two weeks ago. Yeah, we got them in right away. So there are many many people stepping up to the plate who family they helped us out also they from Toronto. Yeah. people you know like I I I told you we start out as I was involved in in the closing I was I was on the board and people used my building you said and they you know where we're going to get money we don't get money you know uh the bought st I st them he bought a hospital they want a hospital there was years ago so they say how you build with money I can't tell you whenever I did something I did without money the same thing applies to this you know how you build with money we don't know but without money you know but people come people every she is you know there's so many things people want to give you know we just want to you know we have no time for so many things but you know we got to finish you know what we're doing and u there's always constantly more and more stuff like I say you know it's going to take you two years to finish whole thing probably yours also you know we just gave out a volume mir on every parachute we gave out two three we did you know with a p same you did it in English we did it in Hebrew but the demand is you know I want to see everything I want to see more I want to see more you know people People are demanding, you know, they think it comes ready and you put it in and it's not. You know, we have to go over it. A lot of work editing, you know, it's a lot a lot of work, a lot of work, a lot of work, a lot of money. Well, thank you for your efforts to be and the should give you continued to be people. And that's really you're bringing them, you're bringing them, you should be benched with. Thank you so much. And we look forward to having you back again. [Music]