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Hello everyone and welcome back to
Inside Art Scroll where the books you
read and the people who write them come
to life. We are joined today by Rabbi
Israel Besser, author of the brand new
Nishmas, Soul of Creation, a wonderful
new book published by Art Scroll. And
Rabbi Besser is known as a biographer
par excalance. You have many
best-selling books. This book seems on
the surface anyway to be somewhat
different from the books that you've
authored till now. tell us how it is or
isn't and why you decided to devote such
time and effort to putting out a book on
one solitary.
All right, thank you so much. First of
all, thank you for having me. It's
always a pleasure to smoo with you and
to be here. You're asking two different
questions. So the the first question of
how is it different the biographies that
you write people read them about people
sadikim regular people that they see and
it lifts them up and it brings out a
certain wakes up certain things in them.
they respond a certain way. So it's kind
of building from the bottom up. Uh a
safer when you're working with a Torah
work and a a timeless traditional like
Nishmas that goes back to it's not a
biography. You're not telling anybody's
story, but you're essentially doing the
same thing is that you're trying to take
the real world of and make it alive and
make it relevant to you and show you
your connection to this and why this is
really yours. So it's not that different
at all because you're using the English
language, the same the written word as a
means of taking something holy and
trying to make it uh something that
could connect with you, digestible,
palatable, something that comes alive to
you. With Nishmas in particular, it
wasn't as hard as one would think. And
to answer your second question of why
now, the credit really goes to the to
the good people here with Das Law and
his staff at Art School. He felt um they
were very much attuned as you know to to
the needs and to the thirst of the
people and and there's so many works of
of everybody's learning the daf and
there's so many coming out entire and
biographies of course but he was saying
there's a thirst to connect to the sham
to connect to hashem oneonone in a way
that we haven't seen or he hasn't seen
in years past and taking out one part of
the sitter he thought would be a good
example or a good way or a good means of
being able to to communicate what people
are feeling And what's feel better than
nishas nishmas is a a national treasure
it not only on shabas when when it's
it's the high point who really d and I
can't say that I experience nishmas
moments every single shabas but when
you're having a good shabas and you're
actually on time and you have a little
you said like a mech it comes to nishmas
there's almost a pause in nishmas and
lately nishmas has become a phenomenon
it it's across the world people it's
really I shouldn't say the word lately
because it's really a schooler that goes
to use this as a means people are going
through a difficult circumstance and
people are going through a difficult
situation legal medical
otherwise commit to saying nishmas
either or with their spouse or with
their children when they come out of it
and they've seen wonders so it's a it's
the right time for it now many people
know of nishmas as being associated the
recital of nishmas as a school or as a
being associated with
bachki and I was told that who were to
get some kind of correspondence from
Kanyevski with regard to the twila could
you talk about that yeah so we had a
very very special experience and
opportunity this week uh there's a
rebbiton there's a woman in great neck
Mrs. Charlene Amanov who's uh she has a
very big following and she calls it her
Nishmat army. She has women who she of
varying levels of observance and she has
brought them the gift of neshmas and if
you look at the words of nishmas and I
hope this comes through through in the
book in the safa it's a and a thanks at
once it's everything every line over
there is asking and thanking and asking
again and thanking again it's really the
essence the crux of what it means to
have an active connection with the so
she told me that she had been inspired
by rabbit kaneski she was one and I
remember myself being in in the house's
and repi giving out these cards that she
had printed to people and telling them
to say nishma. So I wanted to learn more
about where the schooler came from. So I
sent him the questions to a friend of
mine a friend of ours told him shy
groucher who's been biased by house and
I asked him what do you find out for me?
And he says, "Find I'll ask the RV
myself." See, could you write up the
questions? I wrote them in Kadesh and he
went over to with these questions very
emotional and one by one he answered and
he answered the questions. Well, they're
all written in the introduction to the
book. Where does the schooler come? He
said, first of all, it's just
unbelievable. Uh they asked, "Why does
Nishmas work as a schooler? Where does
that come from? Who says?" So he says,
"It's a sarah means it's reason. It's
logic." Now we know you you heard this
in yeshiva I'm sure that people said
that a of the rash the rash as my heart
tells me is more than a to me that who
whose mind is purified and refined by 90
years of intense Torah learning says
it's a it's logical to me that saying
nishmas should bring an abundance of
shafa of blessing that's more powerful
than 50 mas which we know he's capable
of but then he said it's brought down
from kadvas but he said it's something
he received as a child from his the from
the stifler that saying nishmas when a
person commits to saying nishmas after
undergoing a challenging time should
work. We asked him if it's for men and
women because you know I knew from Mrs.
Ammongh that her army is is primarily a
female army of people saying nishmas. He
said very much it's for men and women as
well. It's equally effective and it has
the same potency. We asked when's the
right time of day to say it. So he said
after that was interesting to me. I
thought that was a finish. after right
day midday not midnight the second half
of the day is the right time to say did
he talk about saying it in with a minion
without a minion but the the good Jews
of Jerusalem who who live menhagim
that's there's a minion every night by
the tree you've seen it at night there's
good who are there screaming at every
night they go close to their a lot of
them come with their spouses so that
they could join together with them and
say it and they they've been doing this
for years so you embark on this project
to write really a commentary. It's not
you're not just translating nishmas or
elucidating it. It's a commentary that
brings out the beauty of the words
through stories through insights. Where
does one start? I know you said there
are a lot of sparum on but where do you
start and what was your goal ultimately?
What was the underlying message that you
want someone who reads this to walk away
with? I I think the the goal was not to
overwhelm them. It's not we're not here
to say or to ask ask questions for you
to say over. It's not it's not that kind
of work. It's a work I would call it um
I I would hope it's poetic and emotional
and engaging enough that you feel alive
and you realize that this is a life
after when you're saying the
words. So that was a little tricky. We
had to figure
out
or when you're saying those words, we're
just going we're just going to try to
take you into the depth of those words
and let you feel what you're saying.
There's not a lot of what you'd call lot
a lot of back and forth. There is a lot
of stories and insights into the choice
of words by the we read a little bit in
in the the origins of
nishmas are unclear who wrote it. There
are different and we brought that in
different in the introduction of course
but it was written by by Malim and
whoever wrote those words there's some
of it is in the other places and whoever
put it together was doing so with some
sort of so we tried our best to let you
feel what they what they were trying to
convey. Is there one part of Nishmas
that maybe prior to working on this you
had a kind of a superficial
understanding and then you came across a
vert or a story that brought it to a
whole new level. Yeah. Actually that's
something that that every week since you
know I don't say it every day yet I say
it
shabas it goes on. So there's a whether
words we have no king other than you
right um the
words and then another thing is there
are those who say I think the says this
um
that when things are really difficult
that's when you most sense
that so it's specifically part of the
trait
is those are the words that are framing
the next When things are really
difficult, that's when we have a new
understanding. And I know and anybody
and everybody has been through difficult
times in their life. Protect us knows
the sense of feeling completely alone.
And there's really nobody you could turn
to if it's medical, if it's legal, if
it's educational, if it's financial, and
all the people who you thought could
help you aren't there. And for the first
time, you feel like I only have you. So
that was an epiphany to me. Now, we're
still basking in the glow. I think you
would be proud to say we're still
basking in the glow of the Rabbi Tran
book which was your beautiful creation.
Uh but on the way in here to this
conversation, you commented that this
new book changed you. Now we know that
the Rabbi Tran book also changed you,
changed me, changed a lot of us. How did
this change you differently?
Um, I think that you you say nishmas
with a little bit of cavana and you
realize the the
precision and the complexity of every
single detail of you you don't look at a
sunset the same or I left Montreal this
morning go snowing. You don't look at a
snowflake the same. You you realize you
start to see things a little deeper. the
blinders are off a little bit and and
you you're able to to perceive what's
really going on in creation and your
role in creation because the branch who
made all that put you in this world and
he made you with the same precision. His
artistry is not, you know, only reserved
for Niagara Falls. It's it's also you
and you start to see a little bit from
these words. If you take the a moment to
contemplate what they mean and what
they're saying, you start to see things
a little deeper, a little more and and
things don't bother you as much because
it's it's a little bit of practice. this
a little bit of a muna and it's an
overriding sense of thanks, of
gratitude, of of knowing that he's in
the driver's seat. Now, it's quite
prevalent now this thank you Hashem
movement. We see bumper stickers songs.
Many people would scoff at it on a
certain level as being superficial.
It's, you know, it's a bumper sticker.
Would you say that because that's what
Nishmas really is. It's thank you Hashem
for everything on every level. Would you
say that this kind of brings depth to
that movement? And I'm not knocking it.
I'm just for sure. Look, there's
definitely an overlap and they they
definitely segue one into the other.
Um I I want to tell you a story if it's
okay. He once told me, you're a very
musical person. Maybe you know he made
up a song and the words of the
songs. I don't know if it ever achieved
internationally or if it ever became but
it's a very beautiful song. David sang
it, other sang it. I think it was on his
son Avi produced an album and I think
MBD sings it on the I think so. I think
so if I'm not
mist was very sick. She was in the
hospital in Manhattan and he went to
spend hours with her in the hospital.
She was doning I think at Park Synagogue
I don't remember which one of the shs
close to the hospital in
Manhattan and it it was a very
challenging time in his life. His wife
wasn't well. She was a young woman and
their prognosis was not good. And he
said he was saying, he was dabbing. And
he got to the
words and he started to sing himself and
he was and he was saying it and he
couldn't get past it because everything
came down
to and you could do anything and there's
only you and those two thoughts were
carrying him. And he said the words
again and again and again. He said he
said it so many times the niggan came
out and he was singing it to himself
under his talis. He sang it for so long
that when they called him up for an
aliyah, he was still in the middle of
nishmasma laning. He's a guy. He's a
ply. He's not a person who's just prone
to emotion. It's not that type. He's a
cerebral person. But he connected with
the words in such a powerful way. And he
told me that at that moment everything
was all right. His wife was sick.
Ultimately she passed away but
everything was good. Going back to to
thank you Hashem that that story that
that's nishmas to me. It's the whole
nishmas really. It's all a
song. Thank you. Hashem, is saying that
it's a affirmation maybe is the word for
it that you're in control of everything
and empowers a lot of people. A lot of
people are only able to get through the
day by having that bumper sticker or
hashtag or mug or whatever it is. Of
course, it's not cheap. Of course, it's
real because it comes from the the very
core of a year's awareness that maybe
you had a fender bender and maybe you're
going to be late for your next
appointment because of it because you
have to and maybe there's traffic and
maybe the weather's not good and your
flight was canceled. There's a lot of
things that go wrong in everybody's day
if you're able to live with thank
you. You're always going to be happy. So
the jumping up and down thank you Hashem
is really saying sometimes things are
better, sometimes things are worse, but
there is this acknowledgement at the
core that it's all from you and we're
okay. We're very excited to welcome this
new volume. I believe that this will be
a springboard for people to appreciate
the entirety of Davening. Sometimes
people are overwhelmed. You look at the
halalucas, they're all songs and they're
all ods and expressions of thanks. But
we get overwhelmed when you look at at
the gift for me to be able to take few
months and just focus on this. And I can
imagine that anybody who does this with
any will find the same. We appreciate
the gift that you've given us opening
our eyes to the beauty of thank for
giving me the opportunity to do it. We
look forward to many other such volumes
enhancing our speak. Thank you. Thank
you.
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