If One Hand Touches the Other In Middle of the Netila - Mishna Berura DH Siman 162 Seif 3-4

Okay, good morning everyone. We are continuing Shab. We're learning. Last uh time we got together, we learned the of that technically you should rub your hands together at during the Natila. Th this was uh in cif gimmel. Let's see the end of sgiml. Sifgiml saidgiml said like this if you wash part of your hand then you wash the rest of it. Your hand was t the way it was. There's no halfway washing. However, but if your the first part of your hand was a little bit wet, then it means as follows. We learned last time that there's no such thing as purifying part of your hand. It's either all or nothing. So if you pour on part of your hand, nothing happens and therefore it's not going to help to then pour on the second part of the hand. The mish said the reason is because it's not the dak to wash it that way. That's not the to do so that way. However, says the that's only the first washing of your hand. But then you the you could do mas. Now um however we also learned that if the f let's say you washed half of the hand you wash just you know the front the top part of the fingers so that doesn't do anything and then you wash the next part of the fingers also nothing is accomplished but if the first part of the hand is still wet while you're washing the second part of the hand then it is effective as if it's the first part of the hand is then it would be then it would be um it would be effective. Okay. Okay. Now let's see the right. If this that if the first part of the hand is still wet, you don't have to wash again. In other words, you could count the washing of the first half and with the second half that's only however you have to wash the whole hand at once. Not ink in one pouring. Ah so now now we come to a new hak this den that you can't wash half of a hand at a time is only without a pause in between but if you wash let's say the first part of the hand and then you immediately wash the second part of the hand that would be effective even two pourings as long as you don't wait in between at all it's like one pouring Therefore, handpass. If you wash from something called a hand, this is the on the bottom it says a small jug, a small barrel that could be carried in the hand with a spigot that the opening is narrow. Open it and close it. So that the water should be considered like it's coming from the force of a man through this short amount of time. It's not called a let's basically like this. Let's say you have a big uh a big container, these big Gatorade canisters and uh it has a spigot and it's not going to help just to open the spigot and now the water comes out because only the first rush will be considered like kayakra but once the water continuously flows that's no longer kayakra. So what's needed is you have to open it and close it, open it and close it, open it and close it. But in that case the first opening is only washing the first part of your hand. The second opening is washing the second part of your hand. But now you got a problem because you can't do the answer is that amount of heaps is not considered a he that's considered seamless enough that it's all one and the two washings are if you have another better not to use this better not to use a thing where you're just opening the spigot and closing the spigot. opening the spigot, closing the spigot. That better not to use it. Or sometimes you have like on an ern where you press the top just some tova. Don't use an urn for that's not a good idea. But let's say you have cold water in the earn and it's one of these compressor, you know, one of these pumps, which by the way is mish asking for trouble. It should last you at least one chabas. You know that they should work at least one shabas. But let's say you're ready on shabas 2. And the way it's going to work, you're pressing it. You're pressing it. So the first press you get, you know, the first part of your hand, the second part of the hand. So then it would work, but it's not it's not. Now this is all the first washing of the hand. But the second washing of remember the second washing is not to be matar your hands it's to get off the tummy water. So then why wouldn't you be able to do a half a nutil at a time? You see to create you can't do a half aila to remove. So you could remove the first part of the and then remove the second part of the even though you dried part of the hand completely. You could now add on the second half. these waters. They're not coming for only to purify the first waters. Let's say you poured water on one hand and then you rub it on the other hand. So now the hand that was cleaned is now coming into contact with the hand that was tame the is not effective even if after that you pour on both hands. Why? Because the water that you poured on hand one became tame. And when you rubbed it on the second hand, the second hand became only water that became from that hand. Not water that became tame from a different hand. So like this you pour water on your right hand. Okay. Your right hand is pure. The water on it is tame. You then rub the left hand on it. What has happened? What has happened is the water became tummy on your right hand. And your second hand now has on it may from the first hand. So when you pour more water on the first hand, you get off the tame water on the first hand. But there's no way to be matah your second hand cuz now your second hand has on it tame water from a different hand. There's no process of being matah water from a different hand. Only tame water only water that became tummy from that hand itself could become tahar t a hand that became t from a different t water from a different hand cannot become tahar. Let's see the we're talking about you only poured the first waters namely part of the on one hand and you rubbed it on the second hand that's not washed why you thought you figured why do I need to pour water on the second hand. I'll just use the moisture on the first hand to clean the sec second hand. Okay. The same would be if you rubbed it on the second hand to somehow remove the sweat or the dirt. What does it not help for? It's not that we're worried hand two is mame hand one. No, there's no no big deal. Hand one became tahar. There's tame water on hand one. The fact that you touch it with the tame hand, who cares? The the hand is tahar. The water is tame anyway. And you'll remove it. So there's no >> the hand tummy now from touching second hand >> cuz the hand is tahar from doing the tim there's the tame water on hand one does not become more tame. >> Yeah, but the hand does fine. But you're introducing external tuma to that hand. >> Who says that a tame hand by touching a tar hand makes that hand t? We never found that a t hand makes tame a tahar hand. The hands are just because one t hand touches a tahar hand. We have not found that a tame hand could be a tame a hand. What? So what is the issue then? The issue seems like no I I'm sorry. You're right. Hand one is does become but we'll see later. We'll see later why hand one becomes tame. We have not encountered the process of that. But the Mish is adding hand one will become tummy. So what is the we're talking about? We're talking about the hand. The first waters are became at the hands to hand twos is worse in the receives now than had you never washed in the first place. water that came on your hand. Even if you poured many of water again on a different hand until you dry it first as we're going to explain. Let's do one more. So when you rub it your hand two. So now the mish adds well meni was saying hand one is this comes from the and the if you want to come with us to the let us know now. We're going Sunday and we still need a minion. And you'll have to dry hand to since it received. Oh, we're now talking about hand one. Hand one is tummy. You'll have to dry it because The water, listen to this. It's a little different than we were saying. The water on hand one, the tuma water on hand one doesn't make hand one t, right? You washed and hand one. The hand became tahar and the water is t. But the water on hand one now received tuma through hand two. And now hand one's tuma water uh will not become tahar because it received tuma from a different hand. Okay, we're going to hold it right here in middle of the this. We'll continue tomorrow. >> Recording stopped. Okay, don't go in.