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I thought I was an airport. We had
helicopters.
Woke up by night. I just couldn't
breathe. You go home and let the family
know that he's not coming home.
Fine restaurant.
How come I'm flat as a pancake at the
moment
in the studio
and the prominent faces I think in
Stanford we've been through a lot of
history in our community
mainly from 98
So freelander welcome to pushup [snorts]
and I'll let you introduce yourself and
tell us where you from what you a bit
about your background. So the woman is
because we are destined.
This could be one of the reason why I
carried on in life the way
you mentioned. [snorts]
>> So where were you from?
>> I was I was born my parents came from
they were my mother was in Ashitz. My
father was in Maten. They went after the
water.
Anyway, if move fast forward in 1957,
my mother wasn't feeling that good. She
needed a different environment. They
moved to England
and they moved to
Vhant is Tosh the Bism
Hopstein lived Mr. Hopstein hunters to
Toshas Madrish. They lived upstairs.
I was born in 1958,
August 1958.
And then a year later, my parents moved
to St Killers Road 42 Sillers Road.
So my father left.
Yeah.
[laughter]
>> Occasionally there's there you know
that. Okay.
>> Um, basically that's it. And um, that's
where I grew up. So, kill this road
number 42. I went to Fek.
I don't think there is a like that like
something special
>> what was
and it was the school the school for
people that started from the age of 3
years old upwards.
>> I was there from three
giving
you
it was a mixture a mixture of what's
named
these are one of the things I remember
because I thank to this day
>> you know what I mean especially in
uh on that basis that's why We know so
well today and he wouldn't go to Kimish
kinder club always nice smooth touch
and his rabbitson came to for the kinder
it was just amazing school absolutely
amazing whoever you ask anyone who
learned
[sighs]
>> I can't remember when took over I don't
know when when I think after he became
old and
>> interesting
But I was there till I was 11 years old
and from there I went to hinden
road
>> said to for two weeks didn't work out
>> okay
>> went to
so
and um it was fantastic I enjoyed every
bit of it
and so on. That time felman and Boka
were the heads of the school and Jeffrey
Davis was the headmaster
plus Mr. Warner. It was an amazing
school absolutely amazing
surprise.
[laughter]
>> Okay.
>> So I enjoyed it and from there I carried
on. I went to Manchester Shiva when I
was 13 years old which wasn't exactly
the right thing to do. My parents were
caterers. They were working day and
night. So it was very hard and uh sent
me off to yeshiva didn't work out. The
first man of 13 years old it's not that
easy but um
said it's not for you here. I've got
another
schlazing back. Yes. I said no thank
you. I grew up in schlazing. My father
was cooking. I used to sleep in
Schlazingers. I was uh you know
Schllesing Shiva by the way was in Green
Lanes. It was the most beautiful
complex. Unbelievably the place there
stunning place.
>> Um
>> no not in Fa
>> it's um
>> but you knew it's not for you and
>> I knew it's not. So I came back home and
my father said you know what let's try
Sandland yeshiva and I went to Sandland
for two years.
What an amazing Shiva. What an amazing
yeshiva as well. Whoever knows the
history of Sandre and yeshiva was there
for two years and then I went back to
Manchester for two years again.
>> It was okay. Yeah.
I I we spoke about it in the last
episode.
So I I can understand the difficulties
of going away.
It's
>> seems like journey.
>> Yeah journey. No question about it. But
um it worked out. It worked out. The
Rashiva, the man Rashiva was
something special.
>> Yeah. Moving forward,
>> the professional part of your life.
>> Right. So I started after my father put
me into a
a training school by a company called
Vogals. Bobby Vogle. It was jewelry.
That was my first trade. I became a
diamond engraver setter.
>> Okay. I used to set and engrave and I
think near enough a year training, year
and a half training
and uh I then went to work for a company
called PH wedding rings which was the
uncle
in
>> and I became one of the top setters and
it was I enjoyed it. It was not an easy
job but it was an enjoyable job and it
was a hard job because when you do all
the jewelries you have to make sure the
grains are right and the you know the
settings are right the stones
>> and I did that for a couple of years I
think
zagoname
those days used to be get the nice
well you didn't go by wage it went by
every stone that you set
>> and within two years like everything um
and they started undercutting the prices
to mish
wasn't worth to carry on. I gave up and
I went to work with my dad in the extos.
>> So your father is the exto.
>> Yeah, my father had a hotel first, the
Asian hotel and from the Asian hotel he
sold
hotel.
>> Yeah.
Hotel
Brunch was further down
just next to there was a hotel from
Brunchtown. [clears throat]
>> Yeah, exactly.
>> Okay. And my father's hotel at the time
was um where most of the casters were
from people who live in the elderly
people who are in Stanford today uh got
married either there or there was
another hotel next door that my father
used to cater or in Stoke Newton Town
Hall.
>> Oh
>> those were the halls at the time. Stoke
Newton Hecne Town Hall.
>> Mhm.
>> Um my father and Mrs. Gotenmo were
caterers. They were partners in in the
hotel and catering and can I know I
think there was I got how many families
how many families today from Stanford
got married there and
>> so sat together stores grocery
that's
uh he went into egg stores bought the
egg stores I was seven eight years old n
I think seven n years old he bought it
from a gentleman called Mr. Bloodstein
uh fried
and those days the extos was the exto
right when this gold oil
tank in the vent
the tap
there was a tanker that came to fill the
oil up
>> every two weeks weekly or two weeks
filled up thing and that's you know
there wasn't um hash
things and everything used to be but for
lost of mention
>> herring was out of wooden barrels.
Pickles were out of wooden barrels. We
had a cheese counter. We had a smoked
salmon counter with 10 different types
of smoked salmon
sliced. No, it was done on the spot.
There was no um
smoked salmon and
>> everything
cheese counter and there was chicken
[clears throat]
in the basket from the farm
>> the eggs in bags by the way not in the
same as
>> yeah
anyway so yeah and then from the ex
doors
my father passed way ex my brother took
over. It was given to my brother and his
wife and uh listen hard like like most
businesses you know things happen but at
the moment ext is where it is and
there's something new coming.
>> Yes we were very we were very big in
herring. My father was very
>> big.
But but he just gave us a big spoiler
here.
>> Still in the food line. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Looking for
>> in the food line.
>> Do some research.
>> Yeah.
Okay. So, so um moving on from the
>> not in the stores
>> when I was with my father with my with
my father.
wholesale business
wholesale wholesale business in um
acrylic items. I did very well. I used
to supply Harolds, Selfridges, these
sort of people, I did well. But after
after two years, one recession demos
out again. So
dishes or
>> beautiful dishes, stunning dishes out of
acrylic.
>> I used to import from uh America,
a company in America I dealt with. I did
very very well for two years and but
after two years it
>> you
know 2008 way before [snorts]
>> 1970s. 1970s.
>> The 1970s
>> you're saying you did very well at the
time and I think
like potentially like
or the nine
I was never let's call it I
>> how how how did you take it by the
recession when you lost everything? Um,
so I keep bouncing back, you know,
you want to sit around and and who you
blaming? You only blame yourself. It's
you got to go forward.
>> You straight away you want to the next
thing or
>> straight away.
>> Wow. Which was what?
>> Um, [snorts] I went after that I got I
remember I opened a party store in the
West End. had it for 10 years. I
remember
I did it more it was more for the go
market.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. And that was a 10 year success.
Then again
uh around I think it was just for was
millennium time. I had an inquiry from
Selfridges.
Would you like to do a concession for
two three weeks in think for the
millennium
>> which is what's a concession?
>> 2000. a concession is that you have an
apartment in in Selfridges.
>> You set up shop in the
>> I set up shop. It cost me a lot to set
up.
>> Yeah. But
>> and I'll I'll tell you what the whole
thing is. There was no butts. Basically,
I went to a family member of mine and I
asked him would you help me out here
join to do see what we can do. Um I I
can't put that sort of investment into
it. So we looked into it properly and he
said okay let's go forward. So, what do
you think we'll do? Whatever. Kids, I'll
cut the story short. Went in for two
weeks. They came to me. I had a store in
the West End, not far from uh Debenhams
and Self came to me. No other what's
said, would you like the concession? I
said, okay. And when I say millennium,
do you know what millennium is?
Millennium is a 2000.
>> To me personally, I think it was a bit
of a flop, but
>> okay. I invested
and [clears throat] I remember turning
over in two weeks
£300,000.
>> Wow. In those days
>> in sages. Now I remember they take a
commission a big cut of it as well.
At the end of the day
I came up with no profit.
>> I had to open the business with Shabas.
My [snorts] brother said to me, "Don't
do it." One of my brothers says,
of Shabas
>> because it had to be open sages and then
the boy who worked for me he fl
not do it and I went against him I did
it.
>> Wow.
>> So you didn't make any money?
>> No money at all.
>> But you didn't lose anything.
>> I was left with £10,000 worth of stock
which%
Facebook.
No,
business
because we to occupy if not he's going
to be in trouble.
[snorts] Easy journey. Yeah.
>> And and we didn't reach halfway yet.
>> By the way, in between that I was a
policeman for 5 years
>> while I was working at the extos.
>> I got to be careful what I'm saying.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Special constable.
>> Okay. told you Madasha Stan who was a
liazison officer at the time came and
said we need oil from the
>> famous the chief police chief police
came to send please we we need we were
having a lot of problems in Stanford at
the time most the worst thing was the
breakins daily breakins people used to
they used to come and just smash the
door open and just uh
>> so we went we did training for near
enough um I think near enough a year to
18 months maybe even we did every
Thursday we had to go to another station
we did training and then eventually we
joined
Even while we were training, we were
radiated.
>> So you say we
>> me and big ginger I call him Mr. Maya
Samson.
>> Yeah.
>> Who's my neighbor and he was a tough big
boy bigger than you?
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And uh
>> Oh, bigger than me.
>> I remember the times when we used to go
on raids. Um we said, "Ginger, you go in
front, please."
>> [laughter]
>> So, so joined by the Met actual police
officers and yes
big probably
>> we did Stanford mostly sometimes they
used to put out the area
they asked us to cover the stations
Newton the old Sto police station
>> no way no
arrested
we avoided it
>> no I'm not saying any further comments
on that
>> in those
police officer. But back to back to my
question
ups and down
and
mention
How did I get it through
things different? But you got to
remember one thing. I look back at where
did I come from? My parents are
survivors. They never went through. Now
we didn't go through worse what they
went through. Can I gave us everything
that we wanted? They made sure we had
clothes on us. We had everything. We we
were happy children.
You can't ask for more.
Everyone has ups and downs. Everyone has
ups and downs. We on this world.
There's a reason.
>> And that is what kept you going.
>> Sorry.
>> So that is what kept you going?
>> Sure. 100%.
>> We were very We were a very happy
family.
the
we were very happy family.
>> Look, the financial never broke you.
>> No,
>> just kept on.
>> I I've got to say another thing I think
because I went
certain people might disagree with this
but I went to Manchester Shiva.
>> Yeah.
in the free
and I think that was a big big thing for
all us whoever learned there whoever
actually learned there and was happy to
learn there
it's it's it gives you everything%
and 15 minutes.
>> Wow.
Okay, I think let's jump into the let's
finish up the journey because of the
couple of I think areas that we want to
explore explore more. So, we finished
with that party business in the city.
>> I finished it in the year 2000. When we
finished it was and I didn't really have
a job after that and um I got a call on
Pesak
from a gentleman I hired very nice
person by the name of Mk Moses whoever
remembers him
was uh Moses Travel two brothers Mkra
and Shi they were partners in the
Normandy hotel with the Shanto brothers
>> famous Normandy hotel in
>> Bas
and he called me up and he said Ari
Please help me out here.
Sort of nearly a riot going on at the
hotel
in the
I said
discuss it with my wife and I said to my
wife numeir do you want to go do you
want to go down or not? uh you know
second day she had already cooked
everything for second days of pes
>> said let's go let's see what we can do
>> we drove down
and I met up with the chef I went and
did a little tour in the kitchen
and
either he didn't know or they didn't
tell him I don't know what the story was
at the time so I said went up to the
chef and I say his name was Walter and I
said to him Walter are you willing to
work with me and listen to what I say?
Yes or no? He looked at me and he says,
"Yes, I'm desperate. Please help me
out."
>> I sat down with him. I took out an onion
and a garlic and I put it on the table.
I said, "This is your base of flavor."
>> He looked at me like
I said, "This is your base of flavor by
Jewish food." I said, "From this, you
can add whatever else you want to get
the balance." Cut the story short, he's
never looked back. Apparently, he's
still there today when they're open.
>> Oh, wow.
>> Yeah.
>> He was very good. I was on top of him.
We we work together very well. Mr.
Chef have their minds and they want what
they want.
>> So, I had to break through that and and
he learned a lot over the years. We
didn't look back for two enough nine
years the hotel was success successful
>> and you were based there all the time or
>> right so this this was one of the
problems I started for seven weeks after
pes every shabas I went down
>> mhm
>> I got paid very nicely for the shabosum
was just for the shabosim after the
seventh week I got a call from one of
the shanto brothers and he said we're on
the verge of closing the hotel down we
we don't want to can they made a loss on
it whatever we're on the verge of
closing it down would you like to take
it over. I always liked the challenge.
>> That's one of my things.
>> And I said, "Okay, fine. But we're
paying you so and so much." And so it
wasn't as good of a payment, but I had
no other job. I said, "You know what?"
And I had to be there the whole week.
Now, that was the hard part for me that
I had to bring drive down every
Wednesday to pick up the goods with the
van. Used to get up 4:00 in the morning,
>> drive down to London. We went to
Bulmouth. Both.
>> Wow.
>> And uh picked up all deliveries through
the day. Can arrived to London
and I went to pick up all the deliveries
and then I went to lie down for a few
hours and then at night
um picked up my wife and my son and we
drove back down to Bournemouth arriving
usually by midnight or 1:00 in the
morning on Friday morning. And I had to
unload the whole van myself. When I say
unload, there was a lot of stuff. I used
to bring the meat down on weekly basis,
the milk down, everything. So is
basically
>> the hustle and the bustles.
>> When I started in Normandy, I started
off food-wise, the kitchen. Eventually
within a year and a half later, you know
after two, I took over the management as
well.
Um, we had to see what the problem was.
There was a problem with the hotel and I
changed it around.
>> He asked many people who loved it and
enjoyed it. Um, I changed the bedrooms.
I changed the beds. I changed
everything. Eventually it all became
a place to come to. We we were busy
>> until 2008.
It was I had functions. I had weddings,
second weddings that I did there. had
the ra
of the sons
and I went walking with him and so on.
So yeah, so normally Bant as far as I'm
concerned the normally the time it
wasn't easy. It was a success and
it was hard because my wife was in
London. My family was in London and I
had a young boy which was hard growing
up. Father's not here, not there. So
that's another story on itself.
>> So they came down every
>> I picked them up
>> every Thursday night. I picked them up
and talking back I'm not shabas or
Sunday morning or if I found the lift
>> I drove bonus London on on like a daily
basis
>> sometimes even no once or twice a week I
didn't have to do it I was there all
week had to stay in the normally all
week and eventually I opened a little
deli for the kahill there as well it was
you know
>> the
summer deli was something that uh was
started by someone called
and cuz he was at the hotel as well
originally right in the beginning and
Then I took over and it became amazing.
>> Yeah.
>> And even when you left the
>> Norlanders
food but you knew then personally that
you have that part.
>> Yeah.
>> So when you left the Normandy you still
went into food again.
>> So we used to have a customer who come
to the Normandy by the name of Mrs. Ita
Simman. an absolutely great great person
what she's done for the killer and does
for the killer today with her family
still there's no words for that that
itself gave me
strength and ben and a minute to go
forward in life working at Sh me always
one day Ari you and your wife are coming
to Shville Square you're going to bring
the ambiance of the Normandy hotel to
Shville Square
>> and I did it for 5 years I came came I
moved from one day to the next. My wife,
myself and my commie chef, second chef
from Nundi brought him in. We took over
the kitchen from a company cater plus
who was they weren't happy with the food
kids
>> and u changed everything around from one
day to the next and the chef is still
there today.
the sue chef. Your s chef
>> as an Algerian chef
and I'd leave the mansion chford square
and
he's there. You know how many years
we're talking about? We're talking about
15 years.
>> Wow. So connected mention
>> yeah looks like it and square to me
everything had to be done right in a
certain it wasn't easy
>> we had people who eat a certain type of
food
there people food
>> yeah I learned something from Mrs.
Simmon.
First thing I did when I joined up
there, first you wanted me to come in
the kitchen. I came to the kitchen, took
over the kitchen. Then I became the
manager of the overall equipment,
bedrooms,
showers, the building basically any
faults, whatever. That's what I took
over I did for 5 years. So the food side
stayed with my wife and and uh the chef,
heist Mimo, very good boy.
And um the rest I took on there was
struggles, there was hard times,
everything. And I remember
one of the things I had to do is when
someone passed away in Shel Square,
there was such a thing called you have
to go to the council and get the green
the green form and all that sort of
stuff and she asked me to go
and get
>> the form
>> the form once. I went and I came back
and uh was handling him with the the
mess
and uh I went up to Mrs. Sam I said Mrs.
at her and I said to listen I don't
think I can do this this is she said
don't worry Harry you'll get used to it
and I got used to it
>> and it gave me such uh
and to go forward
looking at these people all sorts of
people where they were coming from I I
learned a lot from Shanful Square I to
be honest with you if I could today I
would still love to be at Shul Square
>> yeah all
It's not only an old age home
the killer where they go.
>> She also did affordable housing in Galat
today have got affordable housing
because of Mrs. Zimment
and Sha Square is a place where people
come.
They were looked after. We I used to
sing for them.
I'm flat as a pancake at the moment.
No, there's a whole story in Shanul
Square itself
which is one of the I'm sure one of the
reasons I'm still here today. I I have
many I have from the Normandy and I have
also from Jean Square stories which is
uh um can be spoken about but it's a bit
too long I think. So,
>> so
you're mentioning the voice.
>> When did you leave Shan Square and why?
>> I left Shan. Okay. So, after Shan Square
after 5 years, it became um like every
business
goes up and down. Shan Square when it's
busy, it's busy. But when rooms become
empty, they have to start looking at the
the pennies.
>> So, hours start getting cut and here and
there. Soon
is doing that and everything and it
became look I said I have to look for
something else and uh I had an
opportunity someone came to me says look
I've got a premises
um would you be interested do you want
to do it you own food place your own
what's his name
>> Delhi
>> I went to look at it and u that's the
start of Delhi 98
>> but you you wanted to call it something
else I think
>> I wanted to call it Ari's Delhi
>> was the problem
>> you work it
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
>> I can understand it.
>> Yeah.
Thank [snorts] you very much for your
service.
>> 100% 100%. But
>> yeah, you got to remember, listen, at
the end of the day, it's Kadasia
Stanford.
>> Yeah. Exactly. Don't want to. You didn't
want to give up on
>> my father. Look at my father always
supporter always been with the best
compared to
your problem.
many have tried. Yeah.
>> Right. And it sticks to
and you know
>> and if you want Kadasi to survive and
carry on, we have to support it in every
way.
>> That's a debate. But um so want them to
survive.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I understand as
well 100%.
>> So journey from Delhi [snorts] 98.
>> So you started with a smaller premises
and
>> I started a smaller premises
>> and uh there was ups and downs as well.
I was actually going to close it in I
opened it in 2014
and I was going to close it in 2017.
>> Wow.
>> It wasn't doing well and suddenly out of
the blue
out of the blue whatever happened it
sort of picked itself up and it carried
on and managed to survive and carry on
and until came to 20
actually in 2019 I had a heart attack. I
went to Montreal for a for a kasa and I
had a heart attack there and I had st
put in I got through that as well
and uh then in 2020 next door became
available
it was a
betting office a gambling what's his
name and uh I said to myself right um
I'll go for it actually let's go back
first was co
>> first was co March 2020 Yeah. Uh it was
about pumm time
few days after pumm
and
woke up by night I just couldn't breathe
and called ata
one of the members can't remember who it
was came I think pifco
and um said I have to go in
and
I went into hospital
and the last thing I remember is the my
nephew visiting me and um
while he visited me my last things that
I saw him fainting
>> he thought cuz he saw what was going on
in the hospital
how he got in I don't know he knew the
security guard I think
and that was
the mask on in Hamilton [clears throat]
and basically
that's when I got COVID
and I went into uh I was out for 11
days. I was on a ventilator for 11 days.
>> Wow.
>> And for that reason my voice is today
like this. It hasn't come back. I've
tried in mer various ways to get my
voice back. I've been on certain things
and but it hasn't worked. Hasn't come
through. I've been told by various
people come I can do it for you. I can
do it for you.
>> Your voice was important for you.
>> Sure. We went about for 20 years. I used
to have room to that was my place at the
time. We said the Tory
>> um our fifth exact mention was from Gdam
Dorton
the old days and yes yum I used to do
shakris there was a gentleman by the
name of Rabbi Kepla he did miss
and after he passed away I took over the
misf together with Rab Koski started
doing it whatever but
>> it's it's slightly better now and
everything but I I cannot sing I used to
sing a lot.
>> Mhm.
>> And so in the hospital co
>> Yeah. So then they transferred me from
um
Hamilton to the Royal London
>> just so aware of the situation but
>> when I got to the royal Royal London I
was sort of aware a bit and and I
thought I was an airport.
>> So we had helicopters against
>> but it was there's a helipad up on the
top but I was talking a lot of
gibberish.
I was shouting at the nurses. I remember
certain things because certain things I
couldn't do.
And then slowly but surely um I was put
into a ward with loads of other people.
Of course, they were all sort of like
closed off
>> and [snorts]
um
I saw things which
made me uh
it gave me more
a lot of
first of all I'd like to thank all the
nurses and talk. I was watching them.
>> They had the podcasting,
>> huh?
>> They had the podcast.
>> They had the podcast because I had the
podcast.
>> That's the truth.
>> Yeah.
>> And um
>> you felt that they did do their best.
>> They couldn't do more. I know I couldn't
do more. I I suffered with bed sores as
well.
>> And the first two days the nurse came to
deal with it. after that I didn't see
her for weeks and weeks but I suffered
on that as well. Um I went through a
very very hard time and I don't think I
can do it on here.
It's it's but one thing I will say is
the
two at members who came to see me on a
daily basis kept me going.
I allowed to mention the names. Sure.
>> All hats members are gavaldi did what
they do it. There's no question about
it. Any halprren and Greenberg came to
see me on a daily basis even on Shabas.
They bought Shabas for my wife.
Little container of children always.
>> Your wife was there.
>> No, I didn't see my By the way, didn't
see my family. I could not see my
family. No one had access to
>> for there wasn't. It was the hardest
part. Not they to me that they managed
to call the nurse. They had a contact
with the nurse and took
for the nurses. Do you know they they
didn't even have food.
>> I've been I've been a bit around then
because I had better culture.
>> I think I even visited him a few times
because I was a volunteer in Royal
London [snorts] if you remember.
>> So I wanted to get into the that unit.
The only way to do it is to get
that's why I got access.
>> I got I got twice from you. I think I
took
>> uh it was a Friday. I remember getting
the bedside meal nice hot soup. It was
very very good.
>> It's it's some interesting saying the
point that you didn't have contact. I I
I had access to role free one of the
hospitals I had official access and the
only thing I did was going around and
search it was like s room bodies and
simple updating the mothers and fathers
I have still people nowadays
multi-millionaires from he
thank you I still remember still
remember
your husband's
I'm trying to ask like [snorts] what did
you see?
>> What did I see there physically in the
hospital? But I
>> What went through your mind?
>> What went through my mind? I I was
hoping to survive and see my family,
you know, and then that that that was
>> But you saw your situation deteriorate.
>> Yes. It deteriorated.
I managed to say all the time. I was
I knew, listen, I'm in the Basher's
hands.
That's it.
>> And do you feel that when when you came
out, do you feel you reborn?
>> 100%. 100% I was a new in that b in that
in the min side
complete change complete change
>> mhm
>> cuz I remember I remember the the
feeling in stricand
[snorts]
was coming home it was like no one
believed it no everyone was like this is
a miracle I don't know how it happened
and
They told my nephew, "Mosesi, go home
and let the family know that he's not
coming home."
>> Wow.
>> And this one doctor, [clears throat]
I'm not giving up on him. And this
doctor came to see me two years later.
Wow.
>> Once I came out, came to the Delhi, he
walked in, he saw me, he started crying.
>> Wow.
>> He started crying. We sat down. We
hugged and he said to me, "Do you
remember Mr. What's the first thing you
asked for when you opened your eyes when
you
>> you asked do you remember
>> no I asked for freezing zero coke
[laughter] cuz I loved zero coke at the
time freezing zero coke and none of the
nurses wanted to look at me they said
he's not allowed to he's not allowed to
he went down bought me a small bottle
and he bought it up for me with a straw
[clears throat]
>> okay
I I Look
in any way. I deal with all the raun in
the nor as I'm saying 10 years at the
norm. It wasn't just looking after the
customers. There was a lot of we had
groups. We had uh raon we had
of Solomon to sit with him
sons. I made the most beautiful shabas.
It's you know
>> based on who's who's who's your you
believe the f of your you're neutral
>> I'm very neutral but I'm very close to
the sons today from
>> yeah for natana
>> oh
>> yeah I
>> you travel to him and you
>> I I travel I haven't been for a while
but I travel I'm close to the sound of
I'm very close to him as well
[clears throat]
>> you like I definitely like it.
I told you after
when [snorts] I was with
>> when he was in Yeah. So when when he was
in in in Normandy,
I had to go looking for him for a half
an hour cuz we got lost somewhere on the
beach. That's besides the point. I went
uh a little bit later, a few year later,
I went to to Edu. So I went Friday night
as we call tish hunting.
I don't know who he was. This is I came
down takes me behind the reb you know
the gate the door the little gate takes
me sits me down in the back there I was
alone no one else I'm sitting there
we're waiting for the reb come in the
reb came in
sits don up in the corner don David
>> finer bellzo
>> he looks he sees me sitting there and he
goes with his finger like that
>> I said [laughter] I have no idea Dear,
no idea. Anyway, I worked it out later.
Probably the Gaba knew me as well. And
the Gab
Volv is it VVI?
>> What's his name's father?
>> No,
>> France.
>> France. That's right. Franos.
>> I looked after him as well. They stayed
in while I was at Normandy. I'm saying
all these things come from the Normandy
that I looked after him. So I reckon
that's the reason they put me. The only
downfall was that I couldn't get out for
two and a half hours
[laughter]
stuck. Couldn't get out. That was it.
>> Then I continued to rave and so on
whatever.
Um but yeah so I'm saying the being 9
and a half years at the normally I had
this of meeting tons of people getting
close to them
and them giving me as well. we say about
co I wonder
that I'm back here and I'm able to speak
to you guys I suppose it could be shown
square as well the hundreds of people
that I looked after who are a h 100red
let me tell you while I was there in
shield hind mentions in
>> okay
>> I mean is a l I didn't just look after
them
>> I d for the om in shul square I come to
kashabas morning I used to come and sit
there and sing with them midweek weeks.
I used to sing with them. I used to go
in, entertain them lunchtime. They were
happy to see me.
>> Credit for them while I still around.
But a fighter,
you are a fighter.
>> Yeah, 100%. Hello. As long as you've got
it. As long as you got it, keep going.
>> You said about Delhi 98 going back that
you thought in 2017 that you're going to
have to close.
>> Close. Exactly. Then,
>> but you didn't give up.
>> I didn't give up. And then CO came and
then when I came out of CO I said right
I'm going for this place next door and
my kids my family said no you're not
doing it you you got co just now it is I
says no I'm going it and look today how
everyone is happy let's say you came out
your wife didn't want to have you in the
shop
and she officially
after he came out
was not given
there's a person who helped me out in
this by the way one first one is
>> second is therapy I needed therapy to
get back on my feet
there's a lady from gold is green
therapist
she kept kept me going. Without her, I
don't think I would have done it.
>> No.
>> She She and my my my wife.
>> Unbelievable.
>> Wow.
>> I'd I'd love to play football again, but
I I just can't. I still suffer today. By
the way, first of all, you should know
that I went in I went in with 100%
kidney kidney working. I came out with
20% 27% working. Today it is 24%. I have
to keep steady. I'm careful. You know,
people see me say, "Oh, you look
fantastic. Yes, I do.
We are all in the hunt.
>> Sometimes we don't see it.
>> Yeah, I understand people who get upset.
I understand people who get angry. But
at the end of the day, you're only angry
on yourself, no one else. You got to go
forward.
Gata,
it's only you yourself who can do
everything. If you want, you want to get
something done, it's you that has to get
it done, no one else.
>> So, D98 went from being a small shop
with this tiny counter.
12 seats.
>> 12 seats.
>> Green.
That's right. To the massive to the
massive.
I don't know.
is good. I I'll be honest with you,
>> I would have stuck with a small one.
>> 98.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Cuz people in Stanford don't go
out to eat so much. Young and a Thursday
night that they do it and
>> but midweek
>> husband and wife
together
>> but there's still a need for it. Is this
man?
>> I did it. I opened it. It's there.
>> We we spoke a few times already about
it. Maybe just u but I want to because
if someone wants to go with his wife.
Yeah. He wants something more dine fine
style. We spoke a few times about it. He
does
a dine fine restaurant. Separate entry.
Fine dining restaurant.
>> Proper fine dining. So I can do fine
dining. I put a nice white table cover
on. with cutlery and everything and I'll
get a waiter with a nice thing in it. So
I I don't know if people know, but I
think it's a good time to mention it. So
doesn't necessarily want to order from
the counter to do a delicious menu.
The sandwiches, fresh sandwiches, steak,
salads. Insane
fine dining
fine dining experience. I told him a few
times, let's do a few different things.
Steak is delicious.
Anyways,
the flour.
>> So, I can tell you what to We're looking
at that at the moment.
But it's very difficult
>> now. We need to do it.
>> Yeah. I'll explain to you the
know one thing.
Chicken salad is going to taste the same
soft inside the oil olive oil. You don't
got corn.
very consistency
>> consistency
I don't think I've seen
70 items correct me probably more
different type of options
the fact of the matter
was no
I'm going to say something now which you
might not agree you know.
>> Can I know how old am I?
>> Um 46.
>> Thank you very much.
But I'm in the late 60s.
>> You You look young.
>> And thank you very much. What's the
recipe to do what I'm doing at the
moment? Cuz I've been in Stamford Hill
all my life. [snorts] And I've always
said, unfortunately, you might not agree
with me on this. You don't have to put
it on.
>> We're putting
>> a sit down place in Stamford Hill will
never survive. And what I mean by
survive. I mean, yes, you'll take over
and this and that, but you're not going
to eat any great things. doesn't we in
Stanford defense to misad
husband or wife doesn't want to eat
outside with you know with them it's
it's it's a Thursday night vibe it's not
>> no I agree with you I agree with you I
>> I I've seen it I've seen from Mrs. Kh's
takeaway by the wayfeld
bought Mrs. Kh's uh takeaway was next to
the egg stores lady called Mrs. on and
my father was bidding for it for me. My
father wouldn't pay the extra £1,000.
>> So Schlmer got it and from there he did
>> extra thousand a lot those days.
>> From there yeah from that he opened
Uncle Schlomies. But look you see what
I'm trying to say is how many
restaurants have you had here in
Stanford or there is in Stanford today
>> you got a
you got Delhi 98.
>> Yeah but Delhi was host
>> take away Delhi is another story.
>> Every every corner of restaurants
>> that's what I'm trying to say to you.
see how
>> that's what I'm trying to say to you.
Sit down.
Unfortunately,
I'd love I'd love it to work. Hello. I I
like I said, I'm on the verge of trying
to try something.
>> I'm going to give the second part of the
coin. I'm going to say,
you've delivered an amazing product with
promises
to the next level.
So, [snorts]
Don't don't
>> I'm not putting you down in any way. In
any way
to change part of it part dining and the
problem is if I do that I have to start
putting up whole new things like
furniture- wise walls but I've also got
to look at the side that I make shaver
and shavers I need to have the whole
place open. So I've got a way up where
and where I'm going to
>> was just I was just throwing my tooth
two cents.
>> Yeah. No, no. Hello.
And like I said, I'm I'm I'm 67 years
old. I've been there. I've done it. I've
got the t-shirt.
I've been through the washing machine,
as they say in English.
>> And And you kept the tradition of your
parents to keep the family in the
business.
>> Yeah.
>> I get the feeling to feed men. Giving
people food people enjoy.
>> I love it.
>> I love it. My name is not Yesh for no
reason.
Sh. Father always gave everyone to eat.
I like to give to eat. I like to give
and I do give.
>> The boys The boys made the boys made a
whole thing out of it. I said I can't
stop it so easily. It's it's
a pleasure. It's been good to have you.
>> Thank you very much. Yes, I always ask
30 second message for anyone
30 second message. What will it be? I am
the message.
I am the message
is the only thing a person survives on.
It feels it feels a privilege to be able
to sit here with you after co and after
everything and I I feel like it's
genuine when you say the only thing that
kept you going. So I think
>> 100%
>> I think
but on that basis on that basis it's
it's very important
for you guys down.
>> Yeah.
>> Very important.
interviewed 67 years old.
Don't give me what's his name, but you
know, listen, like I said, I know what
I've been through the washing machine
and come on
>> stopping. Thank you for coming in and
thank you everyone for listening.
>> Thank you very much
>> and I'm sure we'll see you on the next
episode.