I Wanted to Expose the Yanuka... Then I Witnessed a Miracle | Rabbi Harry Rozenberg

So you just came from Baka. >> Just came from Baka. Gamatria. Ganeden. Baka. >> Is it >> Grenaded? Yeah. >> Okay, cool. >> I live in I live I feel like in the you know the most garden of Eden place of Jerusalem. So yeah. >> You're so lucky. And I noticed this beautiful yamaka. Let's talk about that. What's on there? >> Yeah. Usually I wear a hat, but you saw the keepa and you said I could wear just wear the kipa. I said okay. It's a bubba the Bubbaali here on my Keipa. And the we were saying that the Babasali lived in Baka for a period of time. And I had run a breakfast club Minion Kohl in the Babasali Shul. And uh so I got very attached to the Babasali. Some of his students are still alive in Baka, 100-year-old guys. And I've learned a lot about the stories of the miracles he performed. And I got uh very into him. I mean, >> how many of his students are still there? >> There's not that many, but there's one synagogue down the block from where the Bubba's house is. The Bubbasali's house is still chained off. It's like an abandoned big house. No one goes in there. No one's There's like crazy stories of people who tried to go in there. It's still like an abandoned house chained off. And right down the block there's an old shoo where like 300y old guy looking guys are sharp. One of them is the balor. He's still laning from the Torah. And the other one's the Kazin. And there's three guys in there. And they were alive hanging out with the Babasali. So I got to like cross interrogate them asking stories of like what' you see is it true he poured from the bottle on unlimited Iraq would come out and then he would joke about it and driving around Israel with a car with no gas in it for a few weeks you know stuff like this you hear stories I had to validate them I spoke to the Basali's driver and I spoke to the guys he's seen it and I'm just I didn't believe in any of this stuff even after I heard about it all until I heard about the Anuka and saw that there's a guy alive that you could still witness someone doing these level uh miracle we call moftim, you know, balate in Hebrew. >> Let's get started everybody. >> That was intense. Sorry, that's not I'm an Ashkanazi guy. You know, we're talking about >> I can't wait to get into that. And by the way, PS, I am an uh an ord of the So, I do have a little bit of kabala in me. >> I mean, this is what we call zerayama. The people who are alive today are only alive because someone hundreds of years ago we callot created a scenario where their seed was guaranteed to be alive to greet the Messiah in in the end of days. So hopefully that's us. I am so excited. We are in the Israel podcast studio and we are welcoming Reb Harry Rosenberg. Welcome to the program. Welcome back everybody to the none of your business podcast with another amazing episode. But I'm your host, Michael Greenfield, and we are on a journey. And our journey is to get vulnerable and to grow and to have discussions that I feel like needs to be had and meeting people that just need to be met and speak about things that need to be spoken about. And we are sponsored, of course, by our company, Prime Source, all the wonderful with things that we're doing in the senior care community. We're consulting for them. We're helping them cut their costs. We're doing amazing things. And this is an arm of our marketing uh process. And we're so happy that you're all here with us. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for commenting and being a part of our beautiful, beautiful, uplifting discussion, which uh I believe we're going to be having today. And I tell people a lot, 99% of my life is a podcast. Just 1% of it is recorded. [laughter] So here's the 1%. Uh Reb Harry Rosenberg, it's so nice to have you here. I'm I feel so honored. I'm here in Eric Stroll in Israel and the first thing I did is came in here and met with you. So I appreciate the time that you're making for us. So thank I would say the opposite. You're going to make me blush, but yeah, the honor is mine. I've been a big fan of watching your content and getting inspired by all the stuff you do. So, for myself, it's the pleasure is mine. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. It means a lot to me. So, you just dropped a couple of bombs on me. Living next door to the Babasali ghost house that nobody can go to. Sounds like the Avramino caver that like, you know, nobody can go into and I'd love to get into that. uh your connection to the Yuka and all the amazing things that you're doing and the fact that you're an Ashkanazic Jew and uh you didn't believe in miracles. I was I was a very big skeptic on the stories that I heard about people performing miracles. I always thought could be an analogy or the hype or broken telephone or you know I'm a student I'm a descendant of the vil nagon so forget even theim and forget even the safhard I have my own school of thought that I was born into but obviously they said miracles about the vagon creating a golem and all these things that I see reality through tea and through science there's a big school of thought in Judaism that hashem runs the world in tea uh there's gamatrias about elohim in the word tea and that this God runs the world in tea that in the natural order. That's it. That's how I always thought. And then and then the Inuka came around and I and I was still skeptical and I then I said, "You know what? I'm going to expose the Inuka. If I ever get a chance, I'm going to tell everyone, you know, is well and then I saw one day the Inuka perform a miracle. It's like a famous story. I spoke to you about it. It's on the internet." I saw him perform a miracle and then my brain realized, okay, these cabalists are doing cabalistic manipulation of physical reality. It's a thing. It happens, you know, and and then my life changed. So, I'm all in now. >> Wow. Okay. So, we got to rewind a little bit. First of all, for those of you that don't know, Reb Harry, you are a spiritual guidance counselor. You are a medical healer. You are a leader of people in uh communities across the world. Actually, I met you in Miami uh by Rachel's place. Um, and uh, you know, we could talk about that for hours in terms of the beauty of what she's been doing in that community of Miami. And um, I'm going to start off with this. First of all, a tremendous thank you to you. Um, when people call me and ask me for information, uh, I like to do a lot of research and I like to seek the truth when it comes to finding things. And I had a friend of mine that called me and unfortunately he was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease and he asked me uh can you research the concept of healing through um I guess psychedelics or mushrooms is actually what he asked me for and I said where's this coming from and he he said to me and he was a little bit nervous about it he said actually my doctor recommended it and I was like wow this is interesting you know I'm in the healthc care space and I see a lot that happens within the space And I've heard about, you know, psychedelic healing. And I was curious about it because as far as I'm concerned, mainstream world, I don't know if I should say shouldn't touch it or just doesn't touch it. Um, but when it comes to someone who needs healing, it's something very interesting for me to learn about. And I started making some phone calls. And I for everything I do in life in general, I always ask for three people's advice. And uh it's just everything when it comes to raising my kids or making business decisions. I'll always go to three people who are experts in that field and I'll ask them a question and then listen to them and then you know with the I'll figure out what the right move is. So here I was and I made some phone calls and I'm like I need to figure out who this person can meet to go through a journey a medical healing journey. Uh he was feeling fatigue and imbalance and he was told by his doctor that mushrooms might help him. So I, you know, I met two people and I'm speaking to them and I wasn't so comfortable. And then somebody called me, mayor. Thank you, mayor. >> And he said, "Come to Rachel's place in Miami." And I came down there and I met you. And then I found out who you are and what you do. And we stayed up all night. It was one of the best nights I've ever had. And we didn't do anything other than talk. [laughter] We reached levels that most people need, you know, to ingest more than just words, but for us it was just the words. And it was such a great experience getting to know you and you're like, you know what, I might be able to help this person and you did and that person doesn't stop thanking me so I don't want to stop thanking you. And the concept of forget about mainstream which we'll get into a minute in a minute. I'd love to hear your take on you know mainstream you know medical um journeys or psychedelic uh you know healing. But here here I was looking for someone who's unfortunately has a disease and in order to there's no healing uh the disease itself potentially but there's healing throughout it where a person can actually live life and enjoy life and I came to you and you graciously offered your time and you went out to meet him in New York and when you did he his experience was phenomenal and when he was done he called me and he's like Michael I don't know what to tell I I I I'm balanced. My fatigue went away and I feel good about myself. So, thank you so much for introducing me to Reb Harry. So, I have to take a step back and ask you, who are you? You're an Ashkanazic Jew with this roots of Cabala now and understanding of miracles. Where did you come from? Where' you grow up? Let's start from the beginning. Who who's Tvi? Let's first get to know before we get to know Rabari and understand where did you grow up? Give me the version of who you are from the beginning. Take me from like your childhood, who your parents are, where they're from. If you don't mind, tell us a little bit about yourself. >> Okay. Yeah, I appreciate it. In general, I try to be a nobody. Like, I'm trying not to be noticed, but I end up on these podcasts having these conversations. >> Why is it that the nobbodyies work so hard to be a nobody? [laughter] >> It's so difficult. But, um, listen, we have we have a mission. We have to serve. So, uh, so yeah. So, in general, I'm uh born in Queens, New York. Well, I was born in Manhattan, but I was raised in Queens, Jamaica States, New York. I came from a conservative family, reformed conservative family. So, growing up, I was going to public school, but on the side, my parents would force me to go to Hebrew school, learn the olive bed. I remember swearing to my parents that I would never torture my kids in a million years by sending them to Hebrew school, and how much I hated it and resented it, and I would just skip it and just play with my friends, you know. So I have a upbringing of knowing the olive bed and knowing about Judaism but not having anything to do with it. Happens to be I went to a nursery school in Queens, Jamaica states, if anyone knows, a very religious neighborhood, a lot of Orthodox Jews over there. So I went to a nursery school there with a lot of Orthodox Jews. Then when it came time to go to kindergarten, they went to Holy Yeshiva. I went to public school. [sighs] It was must have been around fourth or so fifth grade. uh had a conversation with my father cuz we I was growing up around all these Jews and I was seeing I started to ask questions what's these strings hanging out of their clothing what's happening and my dad said this is not for us this whole thing you know and then a few months later it seemed my father read a book by Gerald Schroeder Genesis and the big bang or something and he saw the you know the conver the the aligning of the quantum world the quantum sciences and the Torah and the Cabala and my father said you know what I think this is for us and he said to me, I'm going to switch you to yeshiva. And at that point, I said, "No chance. I'm not interested. Please don't." He said, "Uh, this is it's it's happening." And I I didn't really have much of an option. And my father switched me to yeshiva. So then I was in uh Harura that was the only Yeshiva in Queens that would actually take me. We went to a few of them and they said, "Your kid's in fifth grade and doesn't know the olive bed. He can't just come into yeshiva. We don't have a program for baluva is what we would call it for people returning, repenting. he's got to go have a side program and tutors and this and catch up to grade level. It could take him a few years. And Harturro was the only school they made a special track for me, a special program just for me. And then they found two other kids who were public school who are willing to join. It was me and three two other kids. Half the day with a private rabbi on the side learning Torah. And then half the day I would join my class in English. And when I went to the Young Israel of Jamaica States for the first time in my life, I was so nervous. I was so scared. I didn't know anyone. I'm terrified. I don't know the songs. I don't know what's going on. And and all my friends from nursery school were all hanging out there and they all remembered me from nursery school. All these guys, they said, "Harry, is that you?" I said, "It's me." And they got these guys took me in like I was their best friend the whole time. And so that's what made the whole thing digestible for me is having a group of guys that from day one were your best friends. Like they missed me. It was the I want to start crying now. you know, uh, how emotional is for me to have such good friends [snorts] I am. I'm tearing up, you know, just how scary it is to come into a Jewish community like this. And, uh, you know, I played hockey with these guys and they were my best friends. And then in Horrah, eventually for sixth grade, they allowed me to be in the fourth grade Hebrew class. So, half the day I was with fourth graders, and all the fourth graders thought I was like left behind. I was a slow kid. So embarrassing. And they were inviting me to have sleepovers with them. And I'm like, I'm not hanging out with fourth graders. I'm I'm normal. I'm just And eventually by seventh grade, I was able to be with my grade in Hebrew. And I had a bar mitzvah that year. And I read from the Torah and I laned and I caught up after two and a half years to my grade level in Hebrew. And I hated it still. I was like, I'm not keeping Shabbat. I'm not doing I'm not doing kosher. I didn't do any of this stuff. And um but I went with the motion cuz I had such good friends. I was having such a good time playing hockey and hanging out and video games. And then it came time to high school. My father was quite religious at the time. He is uh he's left the young Israel and he started dvening by the of Jamaica states which is anyone knows a greatidic rabbi over there. Rabbi David Weinberger they call him the Turk Rav. His father was an admir in Europe real dynasty ofidis right here in the middle of Jamaica states. My father was a big of the Rav right now and I'm I'm surrounded by all this stuff and it meant nothing to me. And so my father sent me to uh DRS, which was an all boy school in the five towns. And it was great. I was on the hockey team. I had a few friends, but I started to get very depressed because every Saturday night, all my friends from the Hebrew Academy of the Five Towns are going out and partying, having a good time till 3:00, 4 in the morning, and Sunday they get to sleep late. I had to wake up for Sunday school and learn Talmud with these guys. And I was like, I'm [clears throat] such a loser. I can't do this. I felt like I was just being stifled and watching everyone else have fun. So, I got into a big depression. My father said, "Okay, you know, we'll switch you. We'll send you to MTA. We're not going to send you to Ha. Ha is not it's not a religious place. We're going to lose you." I said, "I'm going to send you to MTA." I went to MTA. And after 3 4 months, I was in the hockey team for a fun time. The same stuff. I said, "I'm I was losing my mind with the Sunday schools and and the and the all boys and getting home at 8:00 at night and then waking up the next morning. It was very depressing for me. wasn't a place for me. So, my father agreed to switch me to Hebrew Academy of the Five Towns to have to. And I just remember the first day of school, how much fun I had. And [laughter] I can't I'm not going to tell the stories on the podcast of the type of bad stuff that we were up to and having fun partying all day. But, uh, I had the best time of my life. And it really was a great experience. So, for two and a half years, I was in high school there. I did have a rebby there. There was they have to at the time was employing Rabbi Zman Mandel a big rabbi from the five towns. You could look online sanity through Seinfeld. He gives Shirim on YouTube. It's like the one of the greatest rabbies ever. He's a aid of the square rebi and and after high school, you know. So he was he changed my life for sure giving me over his Toras as a student. He let us space out in class, but whatever he said really set into our minds. And uh yeah, then I graduated from there, thank God, and I had a great time. And then I went to Nery Yakov in Israel which obviously was a place where you know all the bad guys from the tri-state in Florida and California consolidated and went to all the bad boys and somehow they changed so many people's lives. all these guys come out rush yes and rush kals and big tidim and my time in nyakov spending time in yeshiva I didn't take advantage of any of the rabbis or anything I partied for the year also we went to Amsterdam we snuck out of the country we were doing bad things half my friends got arrested um it was just crazy stuff but um yeah then I went back to America when everyone goes back to Shauna and I went to college to Queens College and even the partying was even crazier then. You know, we were just doing even crazier partying because everyone now had apartments, you know, kids who didn't go to Israel or in NYU. And for some reason, parents think it's okay to send your kid to NYU and get him an apartment in Manhattan. The things I saw from these the good kids from Haft, the kids who got the straight A's and the kids who are the good boys, their parents send them off to Ivy League college and let them get apartments. That's when they lose it all. God help them. And so there's the partying increases. these guys are now dating non-Jewish girls and hair and there's I I can't I don't want to say what I saw, but that is where I found God and that's where I found Hashem. And in the middle of a crazy party one time, I had my own spiritual experience, which statistically could happen to people when you're dibbled in psychedelics that you think could be recreational, but it ends up being a serious situation. I had my own experience where I saw through the vanity. I th saw through the shecker. I thought the falsehood of this lifestyle of hedonism and pleasure and all this stuff. I saw it's nothing. And I saw we have a nishama. We have a soul. My rabbis were right. And if I don't nourish my soul, there's no chance I'm going to ever chill. I'm not going to enjoy this planet if my soul is not being nourished. I said, "You know what, guys? I'm out of here." I left the party world. I went back to Israel. I went back to Yakov. Everyone's like, "Where'd you come from? Like, you were the worst kid ever. No one, no rabbi, like who got you? Like, which rabbi got you?" I was like, "None of these rabbis got me. Hashem got me." But the rabbis helped because they poured in all the information that subconsciously became activated. Then I then the story starts there. I spent six, seven years in a few different yeshivas just studying Torah morning and night just taking in all the Torah. And at that point I was like I can't believe I know olive bet. Like I can't believe I could read this stuff. I couldn't believe that I was so fortunate that I had a head start in this religion that I'm not starting from scratch at the age of 1920. And then that's why I went to Israel. I learned invat by Shalam byot for a few years in the summers. I was in Yakov and then I went back to America to Sharash was a shash bakar in Long Island for many years and uh changed my life. It was the safest thing ever. My Rabbi Rabb Zama Mandel says, "Sorry I'm talking so long, but Rabbi Zama Mandel says, "When you go crazy, you go to an insane asylum. When you go to a yeshiva, you're going to a sane asylum for sanity." So I was like, I'm looking at everyone around me. So insane. I'm like a 21 20 year old boy in a dormatory with other boys. And I'm like, this is the sest thing I could be doing right now. I'm protected. I'm safe. I'm in an environment of everyone's mentally well in their minds. And we're we have a mission. And uh so I was doing half day Queens College, half day Sharash. And then I started to lose my mind a little bit because in Queens College, first of all, your professors were some of them were total lunatics pitching some crazy agendas that I knew were insane. I knew the guy was insane. I'm like, my professor is not mentally well, and he's pitching his ideas to us. I said, this is not a good place for me to be downloading other people's theologies. And also, there was a lot of girls in the class wearing a modest things. And I'm like, I'm an yeshiva now. I'm trained uh to guard my eyes and guard my thoughts and that's a very difficult battle. It could take a guy years to just get inches into that battle and all of a sudden I'm sitting next to girls and there the fragrances and the looks everything. It could mess with a guy who's in yeshiva. I said I can't do this. And I researched I figured out there's one state university online that you can consolidate all your yeshiva credits. You can put them into a bundle, transfer it there and you could be at the finish line. you're one year away from graduating consolidating yeshiva credits. I said that's it. Going to state university. I did Sunni online. About 13 or 14 guys in the yeshiva saw what I was doing and they followed. They dropped out of Queens College. They dropped out of Brooklyn. They dropped out of Turo and they said, "You know what? I have three years left here, two years left here and then I'm following the TOL route. I'm going to be one year away and get a bachelor's degree and then I can go back to those Brooklyn Queens places for my masters when I'm ready to do And so that's how I started my first uh company about college accreditation and helping boys out. I I ended up uh getting a dean and putting together a company and getting a team together where I got my own accreditation. So those f 14 or so boys, I was selling them the credits they needed remaining credits to graduate. I started uh a company, thank God, which today I'm not involved in anymore. I had to exit. But seems that's in almost every yeshiva in Jerusalem helping guys get credits. Thousands and thousands and thousands of boys uh are able to avoid being on a secular campus and staying in yeshiva and getting their degrees. >> Wow. >> Yeah, there's a whole that was a whole rant. [laughter] >> Thank you. >> I just want to I just want to say thank you for um allowing me to be quiet [laughter] and just and and saying all that. And um I have I have a couple of questions. I'm I'm downloading what you're saying and you're saying so much and there's so much to learn from what you're saying and there's so much that I can dissect. You know, we don't have hours upon hours upon hours. So, um you know, I I want to talk about the things that interest me the most and that's why I'm just going to target into that if you don't mind. First of all, the fact that you got emotional about the boys that were in your yeshiva that made you feel at home. I also got a little bit emotional. And the reason why I got a little emotional is because I remembered the bullies. [sighs] I remembered the ones that threw garbage outside the bus window and threw stuff at me while I was walking home. I remember the ones that were just doing nasty things, taking glasses off people's faces and breaking them and then just like expecting the boy to just be completely normal. And that's why I appreciate so much the fact that you're giving credit and the emotions and the tears that you're, you know, exposing is really credit to every single boy and girl that says something nice to another boy and girl. And it doesn't stop there. It's something that goes on forever. As adults, we also experience major bullying. And we have an opportunity and I would say an obligation, you know, when we say smile to one another and say thank you and how are you? How was your day? These are kind of things that like are so important. The more we say hello to somebody, the more we're battling those that are bullying. So I'm curious, have you experienced that in your process? Was that something that you went through? Unfortunately, I've been on both sides of the bully spectrum [clears throat] because, you know, going to different camps and programs and experiences, guys are always trying to compete like a pack of wolves for who's the alpha male, who's and and especially when girls are in the mix, guys even crazier of trying to be that alpha male. So, at a young age, I've unfortunately been on both sides of the spectrum where I've done not nice things to people bullywise where I've had to now apologize and reconcile and realize like what I did. But I was also the kid who got really bullied. You know, I remember I was a Camp Hill kid going to sleep away camp at Camp Hill. And Camp Hill, I was a cool guy. I went one summer to Camp Lavi where all the other cool guys were. And I thought my coolness transfers over. I thought it was like it just I was cool there. I should be cool here. And then I realized there's a whole another group of alpha males who are threatened by another cool guy. They're like, "Oh, you can't just be a cool guy and come to this camp. We're going to bust your chops and make you realize that you're not cool cuz your coolness threatens our coolness." So, it's like there's no one coaching these kids. It's the wild west of a bunch of young guys trying to be the alpha male and uh and they don't see the damage that they do to someone else when they when they do things that embarrass them or or just put them down in public or etc. So, I did one summer in Camp Levy and I realized there's too many cool kids trying to compete for the crown. I'm going back to Camp Hill Pillow where I was already like I had a friend a group of friends and but I'm still traumatized till today of the the brutality of a kid feels when you feel like a loser when you feel like you don't have friends or you don't feel like you belong and other kids are doing something you want to be and you weren't invited. That feeling could I'm 40 years old. That happened when I was 12 or 13, 15, I don't remember. a kid. That stuff is brutal. So, I think that uh the rabbis and and the schools and everything really have to focus on programming that makes kids feel included. Is pairing the cool kids up with the non-cool kids, quote unquote, and I became a soccer coach for after high school. By the way, when I was in yeshiva, I got married. I was in the co- I didn't have too much financial support elsewhere. I had to work. So, I was doing a few odd jobs. I was the coach of varsity team of the Ha High School soccer team for a few years. And I made it my business that the you didn't make the team only if you were a good soccer player. You made the team too if you needed to be a part of a group of guys. I told the guys, you may not play in every game, but you're in you're on the team. You're on the bus. You're in the locker room with us. You're getting huddled. And I must have changed so many guys' lives who would not have made the team in any other school cuz they weren't fit for the team. But I saw that this guy needs to be on a team. And I saw how it changed their lives just being on a team. And for me, that's like that was my drug. I'm like, I'm getting high on including this kid in this team. That was for me a big deal because of that what helped heal my trauma of not being included as a kid. So, this is a huge topic of that the Jewish community must address. You know, I I'm I'm happy you're talking about it in that in that sense. Uh and the concept of having someone be part of the team. I just want our listeners to to know what I'm going through in my head right now. And what that is is that the bullying and the complimenting of joining a team meaning the opposite spectrum never stops. I'm talking about the workplace. I'm talking about in shul I'm talking about as part of organizations or serving on a board or just anything. And there's so much to it as an as an individual getting you know part of a community like you move into a new community and the first thing you're thinking is I hope I'll be accepted. I hope people will be nice to me. Right? you start a new job and it's the same concept all over again from when we were younger. So I guess you know let's finish this topic with this is what would be your thought what what is that final message in terms of connecting the dots between our younger self and our older self and what to look out for and something that we can you know recognize and work on as human beings. >> This really touches on the topic of the whole healing thing. I mean I'll just give one example. Um, you know, my job in the psychedelic world is not to be the guy to do something, let's say, illegal, so to say. I'm not necessarily the guy to buy the plants and give it to you and stuff, but I help you know what to do, where, what, you know, I I advise and consult. So, one time I was what we call, let's say, space holding for a man who did his own thing to procure and took the medicine. He just wanted someone to help him see the bigger picture as it was all happening for him. You know, uh, let's say a tour guide to taking you to a jungle. you have a guy who knows the jungle. This guy must have been an 80-year-old man who was an Iranian man doing with this stuff with the older guys is very dangerous. But but there's protocols and there's safety things and this guy's doing it and I'm just making sure he's safe and and there's places in the world where you're allowed to do this legally nonetheless, you know, Portugal and Mexico, Canada, but and 80-year-old guy never did anything like this in his life, you know, got married to a young woman when he was older and it was a forced arranged marriage and he rules the house with an iron fist. He comes from a place of my way or the highway and everything and this guy is taking the medicine in the middle. He starts hysterical crying. He says, "Oh my god, I can't believe I treated this person this way. I can't believe I acted this way." And and he said, "My ego." And for hours he was just in regret on how mean of a person he was his whole life to everyone else. And I saw a grown 80-year-old man crying, feeling his heart for the first time, feeling compassion, seeing the other person, seeing himself in the other person. And and so I'm saying, you know what? Some of these bullies out there have just a lot of tears waiting to come out. They want to cry. They need someone to hug them, someone to love them. They're feeling self-conscious about themselves or they were hurt by someone. So, they regulate themselves by passing that hurt on to someone else. So, yeah, the bullies need to heal. You [laughter] know, bullies need to heal. That's really what it comes down to. But if there was a bully, I would slip him like an anonymous note on his desk one time. Be like, "By the way, I see you're really a good guy deep down inside. You need someone's shoulders to cry on. here's a go see the shaman and heal a little. I'll sponsor it. Here's an anonymous emails to reach me. Something like that, you know, just reach out to guys. >> Wow. Okay. That's that's a great perspective. You know, let's let's get into this uh healing world of yours for a minute if if you will. So, you you you you said earlier also another thing I wanted to touch on is that when you were younger, you tried certain things, but then you went back to yeshiva. So, your your time in yeshiva, Sharash, Nyakov, that all those things, you weren't doing any of this stuff. >> Yeah. Personally, these things could be a oneanddone. You know, I had my I mean, I started this stuff when I was like 15 years old with my friends. We were going to Grateful Dead concerts and we're in the going to forest weekend festivals for four days at a time where bunch of yeshiva kids and then like surrounded by hippies from the 1960s and we're dancing to music festivals and going to fish concerts and Pink Floyd and stuff. So, we were recreationally all throughout high school, not just me and my friends. how many hundreds of kids in the Jewish tri-state area smoking cannabis and taking mushrooms and doing these things. It was like normal and was accepted. So, every single weekend it was whose house are we going to and what drugs are we going to do? This was just the way and it's all fun and games. But when I had that crazy psychedelic experience in college that really did change my life, I'm not shy about it. It's a interesting story. That was it for me. I didn't need to go back anytime after that. I was like, I'm terrified of that world. I'm like, whoa, my gosh, that's not a fun thing to do. That was terrifying. Like, who needs that, you know? So, once I had that moment of clarity, I'm still holding on to that. And I haven't shaved my beard since that day, 20 years. It unravels down to my kneecaps. And so, it stuck with me. So, I tell other people, I'm like, if you want to heal, you don't have to keep healing. You could do it once, heal, maybe two times, depending how much trauma you have, and then you're free. But when I was in yeshiva, I was surrounded by so many depressed boys, guys who were feeling suicidal thoughts, people who were secretly suffering. And I'm a compassionate guy. So I'm not like, let me, you know, let me get everyone into on tripping so they could feel a little spirituality in God. I'm like, everyone's mental health around me is really bad. And also I spoke to big rabbis gdole postkin people who decide law for the Jewish community and I explained to him about these psychedelics about what's going on that even [snorts] initiacia tree has a psychedelic chemical in it called DMT dimethylrypamine and I said rabbi if a guy who's feeling suicidal tries this stuff it can actually stop the suicidal thoughts in one session and for the rest of his life he could be a different person do I have a header do I have permission to recommend that this boy does this and Yes, a byproduct of these psychedelic experiences is spirituality. So the answer is a you cannot tell anyone to take mushrooms for spiritual experience. That's not what we're here for. That's not where spirituality comes from. Spirituality comes from learning Torah and serving Hashem. But for mental health and for piku nefish to save a guy's life 1,000% he should take these plant medicines if it can have an effect on his mental health on his health and his his wellness. You have 100% the green light to to tell boys to do this. So you got to be very clear with guys in the space because people misunderstand me all the time and think I promote psychedelics for spirituality. Let's do a comesit and eat mushrooms and feel God. No, that's not what we're doing. You don't want to wake up tomorrow morning and you want to leave planet earth. Yeah, this could be for you. And how many guys I encountered into yeshiva, maybe thousands of people I've helped uh over the last 20 years find the healer, find the place to go do, consult, advise for free, not a business, just giving my general advice, making sure I was always staying in the lanes of legality because obviously as a Jew, you have to respect the laws of the land and trying my best to respect that. and uh just trying to be on the right side of history, knowing that yeah, I could get in trouble. Something could go wrong. But this is the right side of history. You know, the war on drugs that was financed by the pharmaceutical industry and alcohol and the tobacco industries, this was a corruption of of uh power. And so, let's break it down for All right. So, I'm glad you're defining it for me because as you were saying, you know, oh, you know, we chose which house to go to uh over the weekend and what drugs to do. I was thinking like this is not a normal thing. This is something that where I would imagine most of your friends didn't make it. Like you know I right >> we buried a lot of guys. I buried a lot of guys. People die. People die. A lot of Jewish kids. Well, in the Jewish world today, how many kids are overdosing from oxycottton every week? Jewish kids are dying at a rapid rate now. It's a it's an epidemic. We got a situation. I don't know if epidemic is the right word, but it is serious situation. I buried so many friends and still friends today who are in rehabs, in and out of rehabs. I was like one of the few survivors of the whole thing. >> Right. Right. So that that's good for clarification purposes in terms of >> this is not just in Ha. This is in every high school. Every yeshiva's got these group of guys doing this stuff now. >> Yeah. So this is not something that we're saying that um was normal. This is something that was unfortunate. But you you found something within it that helped you and then from there you use that as a tool is what I'm what I'm understanding. >> Yeah. Because what you what people start to do is you start we don't you there's no drug awareness at that age. So when you're doing this drug or that drug, you don't notice a difference. You just think they're both recreational. Turns out some drugs are recreational and some drugs could lead you to what's called ego death where you shatter all perceptions that you have of reality and your whole you get reworked. So let's say for example, I'm not going to say necessarily what drugs we were doing, but let's say if a guy is doing cocaine or heroin or something, god forbid, these are deadly drugs that you can die from withdrawal symptoms. So you could do it once and then you can't stop and then you could die if you try to stop. It's that crazy. And then you will think that mushrooms is in the same category of recreational party drugs. So then the kids take the mushrooms and then boom they have a spiritual experience. So that is very common amongst people taking mushrooms as a party tool and then end up not partying for the rest of their life. >> Got it. So to clarify, so your your mission I guess uh of what you're doing and your understanding and your experience and your intelligence is on the healing process of dealing with psychedelics. And in terms of people who are hurting tremendously, who have no other outlet, right? Like someone like look I was I started off this discussion someone who had has Parkinson's who's like oh my god the doctors are saying there's nothing you can do comes to someone like you and then suddenly finds some sort of healing through that process which is phenomenal this this this idea. So uh let's just clarify this for a couple of minutes if you don't mind. Tell me about the world of psychedelics. Explain it to me. What is the difference between one and the other and how does it work? And have you done Iawaska? Is that different? And I I we've had someone on the podcast earlier that has done uh has experienced these types of things, but you know, I'd like to utilize this time and having someone that's a industry expert and explaining to us a little bit about what it is, the dangers of it, and understanding that it should and only be used for healing, which is what I understand. So, uh, if you don't mind, if you can explain. I um I don't know if I'm fortunate or not fortunate, but I've tried every plant and drug chemical out there almost. >> I'm fortunate that you did it. [laughter] >> I'll be the guinea pig for Claus. I you know they say about Afrainu when he came to the Torah is like there wasn't one for form of idol worship. He didn't try or do he did it all. >> Okay. So Abraham could do it Harriet. I know that's what happened to me. I don't know what to tell you. So I tried it all. So I I really can speak in depth about the science of each experience and what the dangers and all this stuff. I've done tremendous amount of studies, but it really all comes down to psychedelics in general is neuroplasticity, which is the hyperactivation of your frontal cortex of your brain where you're mostly storing your traumas. So I'll give an example. If when you're a little kid, let's say a dog bites you, god forbid, and you have this trauma from this dog and dogs in general. So now when you're a teenager or a grown man and you hear a dog bark, your brain recalls that trauma and says danger. And this could be the nicest, sweetest dog in the world, but you're going to view that same dog as the dangerous dog that once bit you cuz you've now packaged all dogs as dangerous. That's how trauma works. And really trauma is your best friend. It's here to protect you because your brain doesn't know what you see or what's going on. It just knows what to store as dangerous and not dangerous. So some people have different traumas where they associate like let's say god forbid a bad rabbi did something bad to a kid when the kid was younger. The kid now looks at all rabbis as bad this one rabbi ruined rabbis for him. That's just trauma work. So there's a place in our neurological network in the front part of our brain where those memories are stored to act as the guard to regulate all of our emotions. So when you take psychedelics, what happens is neuroplasticity, it hyperactivates that place where it's stored. And you can now choose, do I want to keep this guard or can I release it? Can I release stuff? So people in psychedelic space realize they have a lot of baggage that they're holding on to in this part of their brain they don't need. It doesn't serve them. And like Drano, like a clogged sink, it could just kind of flush it away. So 10 years of therapy to get someone out of this bad loop that they're in can actually leave the person in a five or four hour session of experiencing neuroplasticity from the plant medicine. So the whole process is very scientific. So someone says does it work? Can it work and cannot work? I said does Drano work in a clogged sink like sinks are meant to be deloged. So too trauma is meant to be processed and eliminated. >> No. One can say though our brains can't be compared to a clogged toilet. Right? The neurological network could to say if you have pathways in your brain where your emotions are flying on and then you have a memory from fourth grade stuck in there. Yeah. You got to clog neurological network cuz this bully ruined your experience on planet Earth. You got to unclog that. >> Okay. All right. I I understand it better because I've seen thousands of people unclog their pains and traumas. I see how smooth of a process it could be to release. I've never seen >> Quick question. I'm sorry. and >> by all means. >> Any negative effects that you've seen from people that you have gone through these healing processes with? >> I think just the protocol in general is if someone's like schizophrenic or bipolar or super heavy mental health conditions, this may not be for them. This definitely I mean I've seen it work for those type of guys, but that's like where you say like I'm I don't know if this is a good idea and you don't want to be the guy to green light that. But outside of that, there's like a 98 99% success rate of people alleviating their traumas. Maybe you're not going to alleviate your traumas, but you're not going to go worse. People who the 1% who could go crazy from this type of stuff, you may have been bipolar, schizophrenic in the first place, and this wasn't for you. >> Got it. All right. So, let's go back to the uh the world of psychedelics. So, can I can understand neuroplasty? >> Neuroplasticity. >> Neuroplasticity. And that includes what? Give me the types of things that that includes. Mushrooms. mushrooms will do that to you. There's uh DMT, dimethylryptotamine, which is called the businessman's trip. If you smoke it, it lasts 10 or 15 minutes, and it's way more profound and intense than a 6 or 7 hour mushroom journey. Uh that's why people, it's like the ego death experience for a lot of people. Um people use it as like an epipen. It's in a vapor pen. You could smoke it like a ecigarette. And if someone's having suicidal thoughts or in the process of trying to kill themselves and they take that or inhale that that whole process will be stopped and on pause situation deescalated instantaneously. The experience starts immediately on inhalation ends 10 to 15 minutes later happens to be this chemical DMT dimethylrypamine is the main chemical of the iawaska brew. So in this chemical from the aiichin from the acacia tree that we could pull from acacia is the main chemical in South America that is used you could pull it from other plants is used in Iawasa. So you can't consume or eat DMT but if you mix it with an MAO inhibitor which blocks the thing that blocks you from eating the DMT from working. It allows you to make it into a tea and consume it and then it turns it from a 10-hour experience into a seven, eight hour long journey where you're gonna from a 10-minute experience. >> Yeah. From a sorry, from a 10-minute uh inhalation experience to now you've made it into a tea. That's going to be a seven-hour journey where you're going to go through heaven and hell and you're going to purge and you're going to see demons and you're going to see and you're going to heal from whatever you got to heal from. And it could be for someone the most terrifying healing experience, but for someone who's healed, it'll be 7 hours of just bliss. You're like, "Okay, like I've surrendered and I love this planet. I feel great." So once you're there, like you don't need to keep doing this stuff. There's people who are religiously doing their once a month. That's not the way it was meant to be really. It was meant to be one and done. You have the experience. You get humbled. Now go live, suffer on this planet. Enjoy the suffering on this planet. What a perspective. All right. So you have DMT, the use of DMT within Iawasa. You have mushrooms, >> right? >> What else you got >> now? We got uh like I would say the crown jewel of all psychedelics, which is like if you want to do it, it's like 13 to $15,000 and it's like two days of crazy journey, but you don't do that unless you really need it. It's called IBOG or IO. That's what Donald Trump just announced he's going to legalize standing next to Joe Rogan a few weeks ago. This is going to change mental health in America forever because it's the only psychedelic that can get you off of heroin, opiates, oxycottton, or cocaine instantaneously the same day without withdrawal symptoms. Meaning, if I want to get off Oxycottton, that could be a multi-year process. You got to go onto these other pills to to wean you off. And if you hard stop, you could die. You could be very sick. You could lose your mind. So, you can't just get off of alcohol. You can't get off of cocaine. You can't get off of all these things. Even if you have a mushroom trip, you could heal a little bit. You your body is going to kill you if you don't keep taking the drugs. The ibogga, the ibo, one plant that comes from a tree from a region of the gab the gabone of Africa that they fight wars over just to get access to this tree. So expensive and so rare is the one thing that can hard stop all these things and you can come home the next week a new person like nothing ever happened. >> A oneweek rehab. >> Yeah. Less than >> less than that either. You're saying Trump I don't know about this Trump thing that you just mentioned. >> Donald Trump just had a press conference with Joe Rogan, saying to Joe Rogan and RFK and they were talking about IBOGA and how they're used to doing clinical trials in Texas on soldiers. Uh big problem with soldiers especially in the IDF in America is you get injured in battle. You go to the hospital and then they put you on opiates for your pain uh relief. Now you're better, you've healed, but you can't get off the opiates. The soldiers get on drugs. They end up on the streets. The wives divorced them. It's happening in the IDF and the US Army. And so in Texas now, there's big generals and big big US Army generals who are using IBOGA to get their soldiers off of the opiates. And they got it got to Donald Trump. And Donald Trump's like, "This is the greatest thing ever. I'm going to legalize it. I'm going to streamline the legalization of it." This just happened like two weeks ago or something. >> Very interesting. And I do want to talk about the uh the IDF and things that are happening in Israel and the trauma and curious about your thoughts about that, but let's continue. So, what else is there? So now I understand there's the DMT, there's the mushrooms, there's the DMT used in the Iawaska. Yeah. And there's the >> IOG. >> The IBOGA. Yeah. >> IOA. What else is there in this world? >> You have other things like let's call it like peyote uh which comes from the cactuses of uh they have them by Mexico and there's also in Israel they have these peyote cactuses growing all over. Um and that's like a people make a tea out of it and that's another journey also. But these are like would call like fringe psychedelics. they're not as user friendly and more socially acceptable as these type of mushrooms, the DMT, etc. But then you have other things that are like laboratory made psychedelics which don't come from the earth like MDMA which was like the the clean version of like an ecstasy pill. Um, MDMA hyperactivates parts of your brain that increase your serotonin and your joy and you could feel so happy and so joyous and so much love that it heals you cuz now you're in a state of compassion and you can see the yourself and the other person and feel someone else's pain and stuff. So, I don't really promote this stuff because they MDMA could have side effects of depression and stuff, but it's healed so many people, synthetic uh chemical laboratory drugs. And now there's also ketamine, which is a legal drug, which is is not really a a healing drug or plant, but it does incredible things to alleviate people's mental health issues. And it's legal, and you could do it in Israel legally. You could do it in America legally. They send ketamine to your house in America legally, and you could do it. And it's like, so if you're the type of person who doesn't want to do something illegal, you don't want to do mushrooms, you're scared of it, this, go speak to your psychologist about some ketamine therapy if you don't want to live and you don't want to be on planet Earth cuz it's legal and very user friendly and only lasts 45 or so minutes, but eventually it's not going to do the full job. It'll alleviate a lot of symptoms and it gives you a neuroplasticity. And then there's got to be 10,000 other psychedelic chemicals that are made in laboratories like uh you know different versions of MDMA, MM 3 MMC, 2 MMC, 1 MMC. There is so many different receptors in our brain that you can trigger to have a psychedelic experience. But a lot of these other ones are not tested. They have clinical trials that have not been done. Some of them provide nausea and they make you puke. And there's a there's a whole world that hasn't been >> I I think we rounded up the main ones which is interesting. What's your thoughts on cannabis? Cannabis is uh what from my understanding first of all Arya Kaplan I think we don't have a anymore in any of the young Israel or any of the shs because in the plant the verse in the Torah when it speaks about the anointing oil the shaman hamishka the anointing oil that they would use in the temple it was had uh 250 grams I believe of canabosum in it of this Hebrew word canabosum and Arya Kaplan says in aish this could be the root of where the word cannabis comes from and he puts a picture of the hemp plant in his commentary of the kamish and he said, "Yeah, it was in the shem and Hamishka and obviously we found cannabis residue on an altar from a first temple period altar in the in Israel, an Israelite altar. This was the news archaeological discovery. It was tested. They found cannabis resin. We do know that all the rebes, theic rebes had these things called llas, like a pipe that they would smoke after Shabbat and and go to the upper realms and do missions. And I'm not saying they were smoking cannabis because that would be could be a stretch. But I'm saying the concept of inhalation of plants and the consumption of plants in our Torah and the writings of the sages for thousands of years is the elephant in the room for myself. I would call it a kipa noa like uh what's like called a kipa. It's like a dangerous place. It's a dark place where you can get stuck in in the physical mundane world. But the concept kipa noa means it's a neutral space kipa which it could make you in stuck in the physical world but it could be used for spiritual elevation. It means you can take it both ways. So when I tell yeshiva guys because the biggest problem I saw in yeshiva is guys it's like I'm either learning Torah or I'm cannabis. And so if I'm doing cannabis I'm off the derek. I'm out of yeshiva. I'm with the bad boys. I'm doing drugs and I can't learn Tora. If I'm learning Torah, I can't do cannabis. I said, that's not necessarily the battle. The battle is if you're doing cannabis, you still have to be a sadic. You still have to learn Torah. You still have to be br to guard your covenant. You have to guard your eyes. If you're smoking cannabis and you're not guarding your eyes and your covenant, you're in big trouble. You're going to get stuck in the physical world. You're going to turn into an animal and you're going to get lost in the sauce and you could lose your mind. But if you're going to the mikvah and you're a holy Jew and you're learning Torah and you're keeping all of God's laws and you smoke a little cannabis cuz that's your medicine and your doctor prescribed it and you have a pharmacy and it's legal now and everything, let the guy enjoy planet Earth. He's not going to get to heaven and have any problems or any issues. He was a sadic. He was a good guy. So I said the cannabis could be used just like I look at guys who are take coffee. They're no different than the cannabis users for me. I said you guys are drug addicts. You're grinding a plant and you're consuming it and your mood is dependent on it and it's in your upper and and it gets you going. That's just a legal version of cocaine where someone legalized because they make a lot of money. You look at gut. Got is a version of a plant that's way stronger than caffeine which is like a cocaine level high. But the yeshivas in Yemen were chewing gut for thousands of years. You look at the guys, the old men with beards and pas learning tal, they're chewing gut because that's their plant. Find your plant. That's okay. That's not the issue to to sin as an excuse cuz now you have this plant to chill you out. Don't put those two together. So I helped a lot of guys in yeshiva deal with the mental health issues of like I'm this or that. It's not black or white. You could balmtov teaches you serve God from where you are. If you're a a smoker and that's your thing, I'm not here to stop you. I'm here to tell you you could serve God from that place and then grow. Get out of the get out of the smoking when they heal. You don't need it for your mental health. But for guys who are suffering mental health, there's no exc there's no reason not to have a medicine that could hurt that help you. >> I'm very happy that we went through this because when I met with you and spoke to people about it, people have this uh misconception of just oh you know psychedelic healing is a spiritual journey or it's just a journey. It's meant for people who are suffering who have looked for ideas of how to help them and this is an alternative to uh you know a medicine drug that you would take. So, I mean, come on. If you know the people whose lives got messed up from getting prescribed Xanaxes and and Adderall in the Jewish community, how many people are on Xanax and Adderall and real drugs? You're talking about cannabis. That's a plant medicine. Talk to the people who are on Wellbutrin and their SSRI medications and all these things. These people are fried. And I don't want to be the mean guy to like make you feel bad about it, but yeah, you're numb. You don't feel life anymore. You're going through earth as a ghost and and that's better than you suffering. But guess what? There's better medicines that are not for-profit ventures that got you stuck on someone's drug. Those are the drugs. The >> Speaking of non forprofits, so tell me about the most you've been paid for these types of journeys. I want to hear like the people that flew you in or the people that said, "Oh, I need this and let's bring you in. You know, I have a challenge and I want to like what kind of uh what kind of exposure have you had to that life?" >> No, I appreciate it. First and foremost, thank God I never needed to make money from this space because I was doing my own thing in the for-profit world of online college credits and consulting in the college. >> Which by the way, thank you on behalf of every college student, you know, for that creation. And what's the name of that bigger company that >> when I started the company it was called theological research institute and then uh I rebranded it theological research institute online which is an acronym for TRIO and then once I got involved in like public psychedelic stuff I realized I can't be advising kids about college and also being the guy to talk about psychedelics. It's a very bad look and bad for the company. I chose healing was my path of passion and I sold the company uh when co was around and online colleges were big >> and that's still around. It's called >> uh it's bigger trio. >> Yeah. Yeah. Times bigger than when I was running it. >> Yeah. So that's a really it's a helpful thing I think because in my opinion and in my experience um college is a really important in other words uh statistically you want to be successful in life right you you have a high school diploma you'll be more successful than without one. If you have a college diploma, you'll be more successful without than with that one. Definitely, if you want to go for a master's and you want to just take that shortcut and get away from all those, you know, challenges of going to school, this degree is also a very smart way to do it. The only thing is I just want to mention that college does do a couple of things and that is number one is it creates a network for you of life. So people that go to yeshiva university or ner stroll I'm talking about Toro or really good schools for people to go to um you know it gives you a real good network that is a lifelong thing which my my always thoughts are for people who ask me about colleges you know if if you can get into those schools and you appreciate that network and it can help you tremendously. number one and number two is uh it also gives you that concept of waking up in the morning taking a test studying for a test and just being persistent and being consistent and I think that college does give you that groundwork. So if you can have that ability financially and you know it helps you with your network and of who you know and it helps you with the the idea of growth. I think college is a really good thing. Uh it's just my opinion and then you know if you want to skip it to go to a masters and you don't need that it's definitely helpful. So thank you for that and I just want to mention >> yeah I I agree with you fully. I mean listen the why you and tour are great places but it's a luxury for people. Not everyone has multiple years and that amount of money that they could invest. Some people have to support their families and get jobs and move on with life very fast. So there's a certain group of people where it's good to bypass a multi-year process to get to where they want to go. And they do have the network in yeshiva. So there's no black or white here. There's a big gray area of what's best for you and let your rabbi consultant advise you on the matter. It >> doesn't only have to be a rabbi. It could be a >> mentor. Yeah. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, 100%. So, so I appreciate that part of your journey. So, and that and that you exited to go to this world. So, you you must have gone through experiences of people that said, "Get in here. I'm flying you in." And >> right. So, now in this >> So, tell me a little bit about just give me one just give me one story. Tell me one story. >> I did. Um, you know, and obviously when you get flown out from Israel, you're going to go to somewhere where this stuff is legal and there's no law issues and stuff because we're dealing with big community leaders and big rabbis in the Jewish community who are overseeing cases of some of their congregants who are the hardest cases ever. And then they bring in shamans and it's crazy stuff behind the scenes. But, uh, I did do a multi-year program with the SNAidic community. Uh, obviously I'll never say any names or which families, but big dynasty families who are supporting things behind the scenes for all of Clusel and they're the ones who get the cases of which boys have the worst traumas, the couples are going to get divorced. I I don't want to embarrass our people now and talk about what the big issues are. It's hard for me to do that. I get to see the dirt behind the scenes, you know, and it's so painful. Um but yeah, they fly you out there and I I gratefully I sponsor and I support an orphanage basically in in Jerusalem. How many kids get kicked out of their houses in the community for going off the Derek for not being religious and girls end up on the streets prostituting themselves on drugs and kids are no families on this, you know. So there's so many people that I'm in my network where I'm like, "All right, I have to be a conduit to help them." So that's why I started a nonforprofit. I said, "Listen, I don't need to make money on this. I'm not getting involved with issues with the IRS. You guys want to help support my work and make it easier. I don't have to pay for it. That's how I make money by not spending my money on helping other people. You guys could help there. So, there was a period of time where I was able to channel funds between the people from the community to the kids that they ended up kicking out of the community like reparations like help these guys get their lives together. They're healed. They're on a new track. But you can't kick a kid out of your house. It doesn't work that way. So, thank God I've I've been a bridge between lots of money and lots of people who need the money. But >> beautiful. I I I thank you for that. And um so, so we're not going to get into too much of the details on that because, you know, I I understand it's a privacy issues and it's not it's more than none of anyone's business. It's just like it's a private thing. So, and that's okay. I'll respect that tremendously. I want to go back to something else that you said and I and and um I'm really enjoying this conversation because I'm learning so much and uh it's it's a topic that's just talked about a lot and people have misconceptions of it tremendously. Another topic that is something that I hear about a lot especially in Israel and uh you know and my background is Cabala and the topic of mysticism and the topic of miracles. And you said it in the beginning of our conversation you you mentioned yourself. you said, "Oh, I wasn't a believer. I didn't, you know, you know, I was trying to like, you know, basically find the challenges within it and expose the truth that it's not true." And then you met the yuka and you have to explain it to me because I I have to tell you, I don't know what the yuka is. I don't know what it means. Just explain it to me from the beginning. What is a yanuka? What does it even mean? Who is the yuka today? Um, how did you meet this person? And what does he mean for Claw Israel? >> Right. From my understanding, the word yinuka really is a term used back in the times of the Talmud for like a child prodigy. I think like the the etmology could be the word yik, which is like you're breastfeeding, like you're nourishing from the source is like when you have a baby there, the baby's yonik. So the yuka is referred to as a child prodigy. There was a yuka in the zohor I believe also. And the concept really comes down to it says in the Talmud in the Gomorrah that there's a Moses or Mosher Rabenu in every generation uh Mosha Bhul and in every generation of since the time of Moses supposedly Israel is gifted a Moses who from the age of eight or nine years old has mastered the Torah and could perform miracles and wonders and they're the shepherd of Israel. In some generations we don't get to know about that Moses. They're hidden. In some generations, we find out about them and we exile them and excommunicate them like we did to the Ram Khal. The Ram Khal got excommunicated because at the age of 17 or 18, he was learning with angels, giving Shirim, revealing secrets to the Cabala. And the Jewish people had suffered tremendous trauma from Sha Titzvi from a false messiah. We said, you know, uh to the Ram Khal, you're out of here. Your books are being burnt and you can't live in the Jewish community. We've exiled our Messiah in each in some generations. Some generations we don't know about them. The Yuka today has a tremendous following. The core of his following was since he was 11 years old. He was revealing secrets of the Torah at a very young age. You know, now he's in his late 30s and he's mastered the Torah. I was just at the Yanukas had a bris for his new child last week, two weeks ago. The deis was filled with 80-year-old, 90-year-old great rabbis, greatest rabbis alive today. Each one comes down and kisses the Inuka's hand and then like bows down. I said, "Has anyone seen this in hundreds of years where you have a 37y old guy leading the the rabbis of the generation as the greatest sage, the greatest cabalists, the rabbi that all the former cabalists dropped off their manuscripts to to say, "Here you have the writings of the Arizal. You have the writings of this rabbi. You hold on to the manuscripts. All the manuscripts are in the Yuka's hands right now." So, we have this gift that was given to us. And like I said, I was very skeptical of the whole thing. And uh I heard about the Inuka. Some guy was doing some mushroom journey once and the whole journey keeps talking about the Inuka. I said, I don't know what the guy's talking about, but if I go to Israel and I'm worthy to run into the Inuka, I'll get a bra and I'll tell you what I think myself. And then two weeks later, I'm in Israel for the holiday of Shivuote, which is one year before I saw him do a miracle on the holiday of Shivot. and we can get into and I'm by the Silwan mikvah with my son where you can go down the IDF opens up a path to the Arab village where King David's pool is. You can dip in the mikvah. I'm going down there and I see a rabbi with like a hundred guys walking around him up towards the hill and I'm coming down. I say to him, "Who's this rabbi?" He says, "That's the Yanuka." I go, "Wow, perfect timing." And as he's coming by me, everyone's pushing to get to the r and it's not possible. I just stop and I'm like looking at the rabbi, nodding my head, what's going on here? And the rabbi stops right next to me and stares at me. And [snorts] it's like an awkward silence. He's not saying anything. I'm not saying. He's just looking at me. He's nodding his head. I'm nodding my head. And I don't know what to say. So I yell out at the top of my lungs. There's a big crowd there. I say, "Let me tell everyone a story." I say, "Just two weeks ago, I was in Miami giving some to some guys, some some some strength to some guys who were suffering and needed some spiritual boosting or whatnot. And the guy couldn't stop talking about the Inuka the whole time. So I said I should be worthy to run into the Anuka to get a braha and and that's it. And here we are two weeks later. I ran into you. I said I just spoke about it and and the Anuka laughed so hard at the story and he gave me the biggest nicest warmest braha. Gave my son a braha and he kept going and he said oh he said come see me. I want to talk to you. And he kept going. All night that night people were coming over me and my son saying the is not giving bra tonight. He's not giving blessings. He's not talking to anyone. He's like in his own world. He stopped for you to talk to you and give you blessing. Who are you? What's your story? Why'd you get a blessing? I couldn't even tell you what's going on. I don't know. I went to go see the Inuka later that week. He and he's got like a he's like a whatever. The guy pulls the strings. He can like coordinate things. Like as I walk in, one of the big donors that I know for helping save Jewish kids that I work with, he walks in the same time like he flew in from America for the meeting. Yuka summoned us both. I don't know how he did it. And we're talking, we have a great relationship and I said, "Wow, that's a cool rabbi, you know." And one year later on in the Kaga Shabuote, I run into the Anuka, the same place, the same time. It was just like strange. I said, "Wow, this this is like my rebi. We have a thing." And then later that night as I was leaving the old city, I took a secret shortcut with my son and his friends. And this is a famous story. I'm not going to get into the whole story, but there was a gate that the church has every year open that you could take a secret shortcut to and it was locked and it was bolted on three places. And I said to my son and his friends, we have to turn around. We lost the way we have to go 15 minutes. Turn around and again I see the Anuka walking towards us with 100 guys around. And I go, Rebe, it's me again. This is we have a thing now. We run into each other. I try to smoo and the gobby start punching and kicking me, his protectors, because you can't just stop the rabbi when you want. There's 100 100 people at any given time trying to stop him for blessings and he's got an agenda. And they said the rabbi is late for morning prayer for nakama for the rising of the sun. He's got to run. He's got to go. I say ra I'm sorry rabbi but the gate here is locked. We got to go around. And the yuka says it's going to open for us. I thought to myself the rabbi is nuts. [laughter] We go to the gate. His guys are trying to push it trying to climb over. Nothing happening. Then all of a sudden Yuka says quiet. And he does the longest what's the longest awkward silence of my life. 5 6 minutes he's like shuckling shaking back and forth in front of the gate like in the meditation. And I'm thinking to myself this is my chance to expose him. I says he something something shady is going to happen now and I'm Hashem put me in a place to be the key witness to expose him cuz my job is to protect Cla Israel from charlatans. This guy after 5 6 minutes he touches the gate with his finger and poof it popped open like with a strong wind like the gate opened the Anuka kept walking like nothing happened maybe 10 guys followed him the whole group of people stood there in a state of shock everyone's legs were shaking I saw people their faces turned ghost white cuz we couldn't close the gate now from the open side because the bolts were all still locked three bolts sticking up on the other side the gate wouldn't close from the other side so in front front of our eyes. Metal melted right through metal right in front of my eyes. And all of a sudden, all the stories I heard about the the Babisali and the Aizel opening up locked gates in Israel with their mind. When they came to open up old shoos and mikvah and stuff, there was locks. They would open up with their minds. There stories like this. I didn't believe one of them. I said, "No, those stories are true. And this guy's the real deal." And so at that moment, I said, "I'm going to follow this rabbi." I bought his fararm. I translated his works to English on YouTube. I raised money to translate his major works to English. It's going to be in in bookstores all throughout the Jewish world soon. And then I have a very secret special relationship with the Anuka where he calls me and the sons the key witnesses to the story. It's online me telling the story next to him. I've helped the Inuka do a lot of other secret things I can't talk about. Secret journeys into the old city to find secret. I don't want to get all into it. It's crazy stuff. Give me one example. What do you mean? Like something in the old city? What are you what are you looking for? >> First of all, the King David's tomb is there. Yuka is very connected to where King David's buried and I'm very connected to the diaspora of Shiva today and the archaeological stuff of identifying where King David's body is and all these matters. So, that's like a whole interesting. >> Didn't they just have a recent discovery? >> Uh, I don't know how much is public or not because there's some things that can't be spoken about yet, but there was the discovery of the chamber where King David's buried with first temple marble that was found. um and under under the tomb area which is I can't get into it too much yet because there's some there's a lot of eyes on the church is fighting in the Vatican the diaspora Shiva bought back the land from the Vatican recently there's a lot of heavy stuff but um I mean I'm scared of some of these stories like I've told some of these stories before and people like Harry you shouldn't tell these stories like you know they tell people tell me not to tell them I'm a little scared to be honest >> I get what you're saying cuz in In a way, if you expose it to the opposite side, then they have now recorded things that they can go after. So, you know what? Let's talk about it again in a year from now. Yeah. >> And let's see like where how far >> the things involving the pope and the pope's death and mystical rectifications and being awake at 3:00 in the morning to do go to certain places, say certain things and me seeing what happens in the world like 10 minutes later after it's like whoa. So, I've looked into like what powers these guys have. I mean the con and the unuke is not the first what and the powers are not exclusive to him but the concept of like to revive the dead or to kill someone with the name of God these were powers we see in the Tanakh that people were able to do Alicia brought a guy back from the dead in the Tanakh you know Moses was able to kill someone with the name of God these things weren't exclusive to one men guys like the villagon of the Mahar were making golems they were creating humans that had life form not not necessarily souls there these magical power guys. There wasidic rebies who would poof themselves into tvat moi shabbat to do a prayer and then come back to where they were from. I didn't believe any of these things. But after learning enough with the inuka and seeing the manuscripts and the scrolls and what was orally passed down and so this is a real world the cabalist and and I learned a lot because one time the there was this program called the the share fund. I don't know if you heard of it. It's an amazing program where some philanthropists got together like all these great rabbis, you know, the Rabbi Jacobson's and the Rabbi Mosha Weinberger from the five towns. And I couldn't even name all these great rabbis who were influencing Clas. So he got them all into a group to film their content and produce it and to share their stuff with the world on a professional level. And he brought like 30 rabbis out to Erit Israel. He flew them out, bought the tickets and the hotels and everything to show them and do a tour. And they spoke at different cities around Israel. And they had one night where they wanted the Yanuka to come give the rabbis a shir. And there must have been a big misunderstanding because the way they spoke to the Inuka's Gabbai and the Inuka, the Yuka is not going anywhere to speak to nobody for no price. No matter what, he's not a payto-play rabbi. You can't pay him anything in the world to get him out of his what he's doing right now. He's in his lane. He doesn't want your money. He doesn't want anything, no favors. You don't owe anyone anything. And which is great cuz some rabbis out there are pay to play. You want some time, you cut the check. Okay? you know, and rightfully so, cuz that rabbi has got to support a lot of other people in the orphanage. His time is money. I'm not judging nobody. So, nonetheless, I helped uh broker the situation where the Yanuka will make an exception because he did owe me and someone else a favor and it was very uncomfortable. He came out to these guys and they did make a small nice donation the Yuka didn't need nonetheless. And so, now we're in a scenario of the 30 greatest rabbis in a room and the Inuka is there and he brings his keyboard. He's a master of music. He's on Spotify. Go to Spotify and check out the Inuka. It's the most healing music in the world >> that he created. >> He makes Yeah, he makes He makes the best music ever. I asked the Anuka, I said, "How'd you learn music? Did you take piano lessons as a young age and said he said, "No, I was walking one home from yeshiva when I was 15 years old and I heard someone playing piano." And I looked up and I said, "Wow, that's beautiful. I feel like you can connect to Hashem with music." And he went that day and he got an old used keyboard from somewhere and he said he did his bodus for about two hours and he mastered music in two hours of meditation. And he plays like Beethoven or Mozart. Now he's And he makes his own instruments and his own sounds using synthesizers. It's the coolest stuff in >> Can I see this >> on on Spotify? >> I don't know. I want to see it. I want >> Yeah. You got to go to his laboratory. He's got sound stuff. >> Can you take me? >> I It's not so simple just to book his time and get in like >> Well, we need to try. >> We could try. We I've gone in there and I've sat in the room for hours and >> so he comes in. He has his keyboard. >> He's He brings the keyboard with him to the rabbis. So first he gives a speech for an hour and then he plays music at the end and everyone sings and he pulls rahim compassion from the heavens but for the hour he gave a speech I had a feeling that it would be like something most people didn't understand but I'm not judging anyone but I brought my own camera and I brought my own mic and I put the mic next I brought my camera because and I'm grateful I did it because what he said that night wasn't released publicly and no one has access what he said to the 30 greatest rabbis and after he's finished I said I don't think I understand a word of what he said. This is way over my head. I have to now pay a translator to listen to this and transcribe what he said so I could see the English of what he was saying. And I speak fluent Hebrew and I could read Safar. I was in yeshiva for many years, but he speaks so fast and so gentle and says such heavy stuff. You need to study what he says. [snorts] So then I ended up putting it on YouTube so anyone could watch that she or now with the English subtitles. I did the hishadlist effort to make it a reality. And one of the things he said in this year changed my life. It was so profound. He said to these 30 big rabbis who talk incredibly deep stuff. He said, "Listen, do you think that the Balmtov learned Cabala from the writings of the Ariza? The Ariza was before the Bashmtov, the greatest cabalist of his generation. Obviously, the Bashmtov was a master of Kabala. Do you think the balmtov got his cabala from learning books from the Arizone? No, that's not where you get cabala from. You can't get cabala from learning something from a book. Only one way you're going to get cabala is if you get it revealed to you by Elijah the prophet or an angel or a malik or mid, one of these terms where a metaphysical reality downloads this information to you and you get it. Then you get chosen to be a cabalist. The other cabalist of the generation will recognize it's you. You will then get initiated into the secret school of Cabala. You get manuscripts. And he said there's two types of bait medish. There's two types of synagogues. There's the synagogue for the people of Israel. And then there's secret synagogues only for the cabalists. When you go in those rooms, it's filled with candles and mirrors. And only the cabalists know where they are and only they go in and out of those rooms. Lo and behold, the Babisali Shu and Baka. Anyone can go visit this on Shimon Shaloshas Street. There's the Banesset. And behind the banesset is a secret bay kesset, a separate one for cabala where the where the babasali would sit and do and learn with angels. And I saw with my own eyes, you can go see the the secret one behind it. And then the yuka says to these guys, if you're a rabbi and you're talking about partsim and zeronin and aba, these zohor terminologies and you didn't learn with Elijah the prophet, you may not know what you're talking about. you're saying words and you're you understand what the book says and you could say over what the book says but you don't have an idea of what that's really about. So for me I was like I'm off the hook cuz I never understood that stuff. When the guy's talking about ABA and partim and the Zohar I'm like I get it but I don't get it and I felt like something was wrong with me and I'm just like oh [laughter] I'm normal. >> You validated >> I don't get it. I don't need to be the cabalist doing the hard work and rectifying spiritual. Those are those guys. I get to be a regular Jew and learn and have a ma and suffer and feel good and ups and downs. For me, that's how I serve God. So, I felt like a whole weight was off my shoulder of like I don't understand what that was talking about. I could learn and some people do. Some people say to me, Harry, I'm learning safer, the book that Abraham may have wrote. It could be from Adam. How to create golems and create worlds. I don't understand what these books are talking about. And I thought something was wrong with me. The Inuka said, "No." So, I recommend everyone go to my YouTube channel. Um, Rabbi Harry Rosenberg. I've translated a lot of the works of the unuk on it. But there's one video called Secrets of the Cabala, and it's the video of the Yuka reveals who were the cabalists in every generation. He names the names, who was the students, what miracles people were performing, how they were performing the miracles. and and Zo and behold so I have a great understanding of what we can't understand of Cabala outside of that >> you know what I appreciate that and and that's a great perspective in general because growing up I've seen cabalists and I've seen some work that they've done and I've seen people who pay to play so to speak and I've seen people using their strengths and their abilities to read people and see things um you know and and use it for other reasons so I I appreciate the fact that understanding that we don't understand it is as much as I want to understand it right now. >> I mean there's practical cabala and then there's like like theoretical so like applying the cabala we don't know but but the ramal teaches us cababalistically of how hashem works and we could master that you can master a theoretical cabala and that's great stuff >> and and look you know I I have a deep appreciation for this in general because you know my mother is a you from I've met my grandfather who was friends with and these are Torah scholar people and these are people that weren't kabala type but they were Torah uh uh leaders and uh just understanding that that's something I can you know hold on to and understand and this this part of the world it's nice to know that it's there and and it's important to know that it's there but personally I stay away from it um but I do keep an eye on it so to speak so which is really nice u thank you for that I you know we're going to have to wrap up soon so I you know and I appreciate this conversation so much and I can do this for hours [laughter] with you um you know I'm going to have uh you know one more question for you which is you know what your hopes are for the future and what's next for you I know that there's something that you're working on on a property and what we like to call upstate Israel. Um I'd like to hear about that. But first, any questions for me before we wrap up? >> No, I mean my question is how do they make guys like you so good where you I always say I'm telling my friends about you said he knows how to ask the right questions. He knows how to help people. He just knows. I'm like I haven't met many people like you so I don't want to you know I'm not here to lift your spirits up too high but I don't know how they make guys like you. We need more guys like you and Clai Israel who >> I'm not going to say too many stories. I've seen you step in and you've helped me. You've you help people. >> They don't make them like you. So, God bless you, >> Harry. I really appreciate it. So, uh thank you. So, there's no question on that. >> I don't have any confidence. I'm I'm like in a wonder, not a question. I'm like, how I appreciate how they get these guys? >> Honestly, I just >> Do you know more of guys like you? Do you have a friendship circle of you guys? Like, who is this? You know, I I think that you and I share that sentiment that we hang out with people, good people, positive energy, people that are looking to help each other and people who are instead of doom scrolling, uh, you know, uh, through life, we are dooming and we're we're going into the world of just like how can we spend our time dealing with other things and and and you know that internalizes every every time I'm dealing with something external, it always internalizes for me. So, >> you're scrolling. You're scrolling for >> I'm juice scrolling, baby. Exactly. That's what it is. That's the that's the words that I was looking for. Um and and it's honestly it's it's about listening and um I've learned to one of the thing that this podcast has done for me and tremendous and I have such uh you know such thanks for our production team and our people and you know all the guests that have been on and the fact that Prime Source is able to sponsor this and uh really be part of this uh entire journey is that ability to listen and in the beginning I always had so much to say and even while you're talking there's always so much I want to say but then I learned to just park it away and then just listen more and I I think that's something that um has helped me tremendously in my life. So, what are your hopes for the future? Tell me about what's happening in in this little moshave that you have that you call ganeden. And I'd like to know what it is and why you calling it that. And you know, what are your hopes? >> I appreciate it. I mean, when I had this uh spiritual experience back in college, we were talking about I had a vision of like got to go to Israel and get farmland. this voice in my head was like telling me go to Israel, get land. I had a vision of what the land would look like. And that's when my friend saw me that was like, "Guys," right after that journey, I said, "Guys, I'm out of here. I'm going to Israel. I'm getting a farm." Everyone said, "What happened to Harry? You were the leader of the party scene. You had everything going for you. You have a whole empire here of having fun. Where are you going?" I said, "I'm gone. I'm going to get a farm." I go to yeshiva and for a few years in yeshiva, I'm talking about getting a farm and everyone thought I was crazy. He's like, "Harry, what are you talking about?" That's all I would talk about. Getting a farmland in Israel. I don't know why. There's something going to happen. And then um I was invas learning Torah. I was learning a safer written byel all about the end of days and what's going to happen and the Jews returning to Israel and we have to get farmlands and get land. And I said, "Wow, it was really my book." And then he gives a piece of advice how to guarantee to get farmland in Erit Israel. A guarantee. I said, "Here we go. this is it because I didn't know what to do. How you going to get a farm? I don't know. And he says that God wants us to move to Israel and get farmlands more than we want to. I mean the shashuka, the desire on God for us to return is greater than our desire to even return. He says you just have to know how to tap into that and you'll get filled up. First problem is people think that you get blessed yourself doesn't come on you. It comes on your handiwork. What are you going to do with your hands? Like what your hands create is what gets the blessings. So the rabbi said first and foremost you need to have a cle a vessel that could receive the blessing. You're not going to get the braha but a vessel you create will. First of all make a vessel. Secondly do it with a group of friends who have unconditional love for each other. What we call a rev. You have to have a group of friends with unconditional love for each other that be involved in this creation of this vessel. and it has to have kavana that it should be for the sake of settling the land of Israel. So I said I'm going right back to America. I'm going to get my group of friends together. We're going to create a vessel and we're going to get a farmland. And that's what happened. And uh we ended up making a beer company that we called at the time Lost Tribes Beverage was a group of friends. We got these recipes from the Ethiopians and the Benam Manasha that from the lost tribes of Israel who came back to Israel and we started a company and we're serving it in the five towns, you know, at little events and parties making it in our bathtubs. And one time we were at a Matisyahu concert sponsoring in the five towns, sponsoring the kegs of our Ethiopian honey wine and uh just trying to get the word out there, make a vessel, make a company, raise value, buy land, I don't know. [snorts] and the caterer at the event. So, it was a kosher pesak Ethiopian honey wine we had. He said, "This is a great beer. I run the Waldorf Histori in Orlando. Why don't I book you guys to serve your beer there?" I said, "Listen, I'll bring five or six cases for free. You give me and my wife a room there for vacation for free and we'll have a trade and I'll serve the beer and everything." Next thing you know, I'm there with my five, six cases of my honey wine, serving the beer to everyone. And one guy kept coming back tasting and saying, "This is the best beer ever. This is a good beer." And it turned out to be a mega major Jewish uh real estate tycoon guy. And he said, "Don't talk to anyone. I want to give you money for this. I want to help you out." And this guy helped us launch the company with some money. We were now in 70 accounts in New York City. We were in uh dive bars and 7-Elevens. We were huge. Yeah. It was a big >> How did that lead to the property though? >> Uhhuh. Because we were just trying to create like a perceived value. I mean, now at the time there were some partners and friends in this where they were like, "This is nothing to do with the farm, Harry. this is a business we're going to make money. So the company later did end up splitting where like there became like a regular business around. >> Got it. So that business is continuing but the farm that you had left. >> So the value that I was able to create in this I was able to leverage eventually my position in the company that had value for someone to put up money for me to buy a farm in Israel. >> Beautiful. >> Um so it was like a clean exchange. I walked away leveraged. >> What's special about this farm in Israel? >> Right. So um like first of all the blessing of rough tactile came true that the advice he gave guaranteed it worked. I was like let me see if God's real and um the [snorts] land is in a valley where in according to the Talmud in Aravven Rakkesh says I think he says there's a where the garden of Eden's located. If the garden of Eden's in Iraq or if it's in um Israel if the garden of Eden's in Babylon it's by the hanging gardens. If the garden of Eden is in Israel, its entrance is in the Bonan Valley. Now, that's where our land is. We didn't end up on this land uh on purpose. I I found other lands. We got kicked off of those lands. I ended up having like a 10boy lost boy army living. I flew out all these drug addicts from America to to be the soldiers living on the land. I had did a hockey tournament to raise the money for them. I had a group of lost boys on different farmlands trying to work it out. So, not enough time now. With the divine intervention, we ended up in the Bonan Valley where the Garden of Eden could be located. This valley historically for the last 2,000 years was the most undesirable land in Israel. It was swamps and marshes. You can get malaria walking through it. It's the hottest, nastiest part of Israel. When the Jews came here in the 40s and 50s, they started to irrigate the lands and treat the water. And now it's called Hamayanote, the valley of springs. Over a thousand natural crystal clearar springs in this region of the most beautiful water you've ever seen in your life. I hope to take you to one of them tomorrow. It's called the Sakna. Anyone on there, Google right now, type in the word snna. S A C H N E H. You'll never see water like this in your life. I don't care if you go to Jamaica or or Hawaii. You're not going to see water this tropical and beautiful. And over here, I believe, is the location where the Garden of Eden was. The most beautiful place in the world. Our farm is a 10-minute horse ride from it. And uh the vision that we have for this farm is to create I mean there's a few visions obviously but to create a place of wellness first and foremost where you can host people for healing legally. I started a fund called the Trippy.vc. It's a psychedelic venture capital fund. We invested in legal infrastructure in Israel to make these chemicals in bioreactor laboratories in the Hebrew University. So one day the chemicals will be legal. We'll have soldiers from the IDF. There's tens of thousands of soldiers on a waiting list right now. um they're getting access to psychedelic medicine abroad outside of Israel which is saving many soldiers lives. So it's really open up a wellness space in the garden of Eden where we're back getting Edenic consciousness quote unquote as we'll call it. But also my goal is to build a village in a where people who don't have enough money could still live in Erit Israel and work exchange like a kibbut hybridizing with capitalism. Like yeah you could have your startup and have your company but electricity clean water goats and chickens that should be pulled stuff that we share. Like no one should come here stressed that they can't go to the supermarket. You know how many guys can't check out Friday afternoon at the supermarket. I get text messages. I'm online, Harry. I need an emergency 50 sent to me. I'm like, salute. Got you. Like, that's scary. I'll figure out to get you 50 bucks. That stuff breaks my heart. So, I want to buy more land. Let people be sharecroppers again. Live in tiny homes. >> Let's go. I'm ready to be a part of this. So, I'm going to go with you. And and this circles back to what we said earlier about the IDF and Israel and all the challenges and trauma that are coming. Having places like this is a wonderful idea and I fully support what you're doing and I can't wait to be a part of it and Rob Harry >> this has been I mean talk about my journey talk about your this journey that we're sharing with everybody it it's it was eyeopening uh and and learning about um the healing process and the trauma that goes on in the world and the fact that this is available for people that have no alternative and are looking for something and I think that is the premise of this conversation and understanding that um this is an area of expertise that you have and you've had such an amazing amazing up and down and left and right and [laughter] round and round and here we are and I just want to tell you this has been amazing and I really appreciate it. And um finally the last question I would ask you is who would you recommend on the podcast? one of those things that I do. So, if you had to pick somebody, uh, you know, I know that, you know, your my cousin was a next door neighbor of yours, so I want to give you a hint. Maybe that's somebody you can pick. But, you know, who would you pick as a guest that would be, uh, someone that we can grow with and get vulnerable with? >> Oh, man, that's a great question. I mean, I would pick the guy, but I don't know if he'll come on because he's um in his own world of spirituality and he's studying and he's not interested in this. >> Who's that? Who are you thinking of? So, one of my study partners, Amari Starttomire, is a basketball player, uh was a basketball player. He's going to the NBA Hall of Fame and he is one of my role models. I look up to him because uh I've been studying with him since he was on the Knicks when I was Yeshiva Bakar Sharash. He was my study partner and I never took a dime from him, a dollar from him. Everyone always assumed that I was getting paid by the wealthiest NBA player. He got a hund00 million contract and they assumed that I'm in it just, you know, this is where I get money from. He's I'm his rat. There's a lot of guys who are learning with NBA players and they get big checks. Like when I went out to bagels of the Mari and it was a $10 bill. He puts five in, I put five in. He didn't pay for my not even at a steak restaurant. He never paid for the bill. >> Okay, maybe he won't come on. But can we at least go congratulate him on the next? >> I think he'll come up. I think he'll come because he's launching now a new a new product. He's launching an online course on the lost tribes of Israel. >> Okay, so call him up. He's an American now. I don't want to actually. Yeah, I don't want to bother him, but I would I'll make the shik between you guys. >> See if he'll come on. And for me, he's a role model because when we were on the Nicks hanging out, I saw the temptations that were up he was up against and the Yates or the evil inclination that he broke to rise in spirituality to go to the mikvah and not go out with the guys to the clubs where there was a hundred young ladies waiting for him to come and give him the he was breaking his now he learns Torah all day. I said, "It's easy for guys like us to do what we do because you know what? There's not a 100 girls chasing after us and people aren't inviting me and stuff." >> Yeah. Speak for yourself. >> I know. I I'm a funny looking guy. I'm like, I don't even have the opportunity to do bad things if I wanted to. I don't have this my my just to have a role model like that to see someone who >> So, I'll make the I'll make the suggestion. >> All right. I'm excited. I'm excited. And it it'll probably be here in Israel, I'm imagining. Right. >> He's in Miami right now. It's >> Oh, he's in He lives in Miami >> cuz his kids are out there and he's one of the best fathers in the world. He goes to the baseball games every week. He's the coach. >> Wow. All right. So, you you go to Miami? >> I go to Miami once or twice a month out there doing help with like a startup congregation. Um, >> we could talk about that for a second. >> I we can't talk about it too much because they're dealing with permits. >> Okay, Rachel. All right, we'll leave it at that. >> Greater. And then this person also who helps, everyone who knows knows uh she's very generous. She helps lots of organizations and there's certain organizations where like people help just so they can get their name announced on stage and everything. And when she helped, a big help. They they went at dinner to celebrate our help. She said, "You're not allowed to say my name. You don't mention my name. I don't want any awards. I'm an anonymous." >> Okay, Rachel, we won't mention your name. Just want to say thank you for everything you're doing. >> This person is so special. I have to protect their >> I have to say I look forward to uh doing these things with you guys and working on these projects together. And >> for sure, >> I'm so excited. And thank you for all of our listeners, all our subscribers, all our comments. We welcome it all. Thank you to the Prime Source production team. This has been amazing. What a discussion. It's a wrap. >> Wow. >> Let's go [laughter] Harry. [music]