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bay the began by saying that you show
the face of the writing of the safer to
the people who are standing on your
right
and on your left
and you turn it in front of you behind
you. to mit all the men, the women to
see the writing of the safer to bow and
to say.
Now
the
says before
is to do the hagba before. However, the
rama is about to say our men are to do
it after the kura. We saw yesterday from
the
reason why we say it after is because
people mistakenly think the mitzvah is
the hagba and the rias kiva instead of
the actual kura.
Now
the
we mentioned yesterday. Let's take a
look one more time.
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test
when you show the safer to the people
and you're standing on the right side of
the beimma
give me you should turn from the east
to the south.
So presumably that means the regular
magia he lifts up the safer tyra the
safer toyra's back is so to speak toward
the arin and he's turning from east to
south
that is turning to the right side
meaning he's turning to the right
which really means that he's showing the
people on the left first right if he's
turning to the right he's showing it to
to the people on the left side first. So
in other words, he's holding it. Let's
say if I'm the mag and let's say I'm
facing you, you're the misant I turn to
the
mis to the dim. That's the d the my
right my right hand is the dar. So that
means I'm turning it to the east. I'm
turning it to the south and I'm showing
the people who were originally on my
left side. So even though the says
um
that could be because the safer was
inverted outward like the
so therefore he's showing it to the
people on his right side which would be
to the south. However, when we turn to
the south, we're actually showing it to
the people. When we turn right, we're
showing it to the people in the on on
the original left side. Okay? That's how
the Mishna interprets the application of
the
um I'm sorry, that's that's how I'm
sorry. That's how I read the that's how
I read the um
the brings down from the
it's that you're not doing a complete
revolution, but you turn to the people
on the right and then the left. But the
says it's better not to do exactly what
it says in the but rather do
a complete revolution which means
I don't know how misra
is a complete revolution
misra is a complete revolution mis
is only 90Β°. Does he mean
450Β°?
What?
A complete revolution going in the in
the in the direction
but and further.
That's and that's what the did. the also
he went made a full revolution
and he turned a little bit to the right
meaning instead of 360 I don't know he
did 400Β° and then he went back that's
how the did hagba
I don't know what that means the did
hagba I would have that that must have
been an amazing site to see the doing
hagba
maybe it means
was I don't Okay.
Okay. Ver
continues.
You say before you take out the
then you say if there's a then you say
before
here we go in the Rama.
No, not yet. Back in the mitzvah. It's a
mitzvah.
Even if you were outside originally,
there's a mitzvah to enter the show. You
hear this? I don't You have to make sure
you read this carefully. As some people
might think the Mishu is saying at the
time to go out, there's a mitzvah to go
out. No, no, no. Just making clear the
mitzvah is to come in for the satire.
See that
maybe maybe other people have a
different ga in this but the words of
the to come in to the basic is to see
when they
take out and bring back the
because
with the multitude of people is the
glory of the
When the safer tora passes by, there's a
mitzvah to accompany it until the place
that they put it back. So in other
words, if the sav passes you by, you
should accompany it to the bimma. If the
satar passes by, you should accompany it
to the in the in the holy book of Ben of
author of
he talks about how thera the Torah is
the source of all blessing and therefore
when the safer comes out it is a great
okay it's a it's a
See the
it is good to see the letters until you
could read them. Meaning try to get up
close that you could read the letters of
the
writing
so a great light is drawn on a person.
Now when would that be for umashkin? It
would be during hagba to try. It's good.
It's a good It's a It's not required.
It's good to try to get close enough
that you could see it. I don't know. I I
even get within three inches. I can't I
can't see it. I don't know why, but
it's hard to read. In other words, good
to get close enough that you could read
the words. Um,
you can't say just because you see a
safer. You must see the You don't have
to read the You have to see the Now,
what about pointing? Yeah, what about
it?
Okay, let's move on right now. No, it's
not brought down in to point. The only
thing that's brought down is to bow.
Should you bow by hagba? Of course you
should. The says you should bow by hagba
towards the safer. The duru brings the
min is to point when um during the hagba
and to kiss the finger. I don't know who
how the the ders decided that that's the
minhug butki said in
it comes from
however you should not use your pinky
okay you should use your you know that
your pinky is used to clean out your
ears
says not to point to the safer tora the
zeres fits in the in the oen that's the
function of the zeras not to use it to
point to the so you say really yeah I
have a picture of
using the for pointing by hagba okay I I
own the picture you could own it too if
you buy art scrolls book the customs of
kvski
and I don't get any I don't get
royalties for that it's not I don't get
I do get royalties if I if you buy the
book cishua
that I do get royalties but not the book
Kyvski.
Anyway, says to point with the esbah the
now this is people get confused when you
pour point that fal it's considered
um not polite to point with your esba
look at fal that's fal when it comes to
the safer tora and therefore for fal if
you want to use your pinky you could use
your pinky for fal but for the safer
tora you use the
okay but oh
what doesn't turn to you. You shouldn't
save.
You're not allowed to save. Yes.
Correct.
Okay.
Not you shouldn't. You're not allowed
to.
That often happen. It often happens.
Correct. Right.
Yep. That's what the mission says.
By the way, that's another reason to get
up close to be able to save.
Fine.
The is to say
during
um
now when they take the
says the
should not be the one to take it out
someone else to give it to why it's more
Now what exactly is this?
Isn't it?
We learned that the mission says that
since
you could say
now there is a big discussion when
exactly should you say
the
which implies you take it out of the and
when the and when the safer is in the
hand of the person who did then you say
but not while it's in the likewise
that's what the mate says
and the sh of says you should start to
say it when you take it out but it
should be said when it's in the hand of
the the guy who did
however says that the lion of the zar is
by the way it's not in the zar but The
lion of this
which was probably written by the Ramban
says
which is that you should say it after
you take the out
but
they don't do it that way they they have
you say it and then they take it out but
according to it is more correct And
according to the m it's more correct to
take it out and then say it. The says
you could say it when the safer is still
in the
and in mach they say it before. Okay.
Ver.
Um now you say it bashabas
by the way the man of saying
is on chabas the ikar's man of b is it
was sort of enacted from mina let's see
if they bring this down
page three in the Back
you're now to be
the Beneskai says since this was as
uh it becomes like
okay right there.
Okay.
If you didn't say when it was being
taken out,
you're allowed to continue saying it
until they start leaning. Once they
start leaning, it sounds like you don't
say it anymore.
You need to lift up the safer three
times.
When you say
you lift it up
and
what if you hear the sra saying and
you're middle of uh I don't know a
different
you don't have to say it with them the
we learned earlier that
does not apply
However, rebel says the of the
you do have to stop
that is not this say for when you say
the lun he's
now I have never seen a lift up the
safer not by sh not by and not byl
but I think I'm going to have to start
doing it considering I you know about
this
this is the of lun that the owns this is
the personal copy of the of lun
it has signature in here so I'm very I'm
very sensitive to the of len any event
he says that if you don't pick up to say
for when you say
okay means raise it up slightly holding
it though like slightly raise it in your
home
yeah right I right that's probably what
it means I just I've never seen anybody
do that in um where do you live they do
that in they do that
but the rest of planet earth I haven't
seen
like to write this. I didn't know the
Oh, now why in the world when the kazin
is telling the godlu
he turns the other way you you tell me
you explain that one to me. He's talking
to the people. He's saying
so he then turns around and he turns his
back on the people.
Yeah, you come up you come up with a
good one for that
brought down
by you don't see the saying anything
about that.
No, I think Rabbi Ryman in his book has
that as one of his imponderables.
Where is the original source of that?
I don't know. Okay.
Okay. Back to the Rama.
Um, okay.
to to do this after
when you take it out.
every day
or only on
you should hold the in your right hand.
Why? We'll see.
When the
goes up, we say let's finish up the
Torah was given with the right hand of
Hashem
because it has 18 mentions of Hashem's
name and and the Torah was given with
the shame
We say
why?
Let's say you're middle of ash. Should
you interrupt, let's say by mus to say
mismar or msaravid? No.
Because it's not
also you're not
or
also
is even less status. Here's the
hierarchy. The hierarchy is
which and then
as you see
is not even mentioned in the
okay
then you say I don't I don't think we
say
it has 40 letters
Okay everyone, that's today's mission.
We're going to start right away.
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