How to make money trading jewish art and collectibles

Hey guys, welcome to Clappy and Frank. Um, besides being podcasters, me and Clappy are art Judeaica dealers. I'm more art. He's more manuscripts, letters, GD, right? >> Judeica Sparum. We are silver artifacts. >> And also today we have our producer, part-time producer, my brother Frank. >> Non-paid. paid. Maybe we should start paying him. I don't know. >> Yeah. >> And today he's going to be a guest co-host since sort of we're being interviewed since we're the the collector experts. Since we do this for doing this for 10 years. >> I've been doing it a little bit shy of seven years. >> So probably more. No, >> you're probably doing it 11 12 years. >> Yeah. I started as a collector. Then I started I actually sold my first painting a few weeks before my wedding. I need some money. So, I bought this painting. It was musicians and I paid I'm going to say $1,200 from a dealer. And then I flipped it for $2,800. >> Not bad. >> All within a year of a pretty unknown name artist. And then I saw that return and then many bunch of years later during my startup um journey I was always like my side business became my main business and it's always my main side business. Clap how did you get into it? I said the story many times during COVID. I was working for B&H Photo and I was working from home and we had another child, thank God. And I knew that I was not going to be able to continue working from my noisy apartment and I came to 770 and I was telling people I put on my towels and phone and I was telling people that I must find an office for I worked Sundays that I must find an actually maybe it was Mondays. I told somebody I must find an office by Sunday because Monday morning I need to be in a real quiet office and we could not it was during co I couldn't work from the city uh the headquarters and you overheard the conversation within two minutes I took off my towels and phone I said I'll dive in later went to Weinstein's made copies of your at the time you had a um a brick and mortar gallery on Kingston Avenue >> I still have a brick and mortar but not in Kingston. >> Oh yeah you have one on um >> Lincoln. Yeah. Lincoln. Um, so I went we went we made copies of >> So you didn't say the whole story. I offered you to come into the gallery to work from the gallery. >> You worked from the gallery, right? Right. And then you said if customer if a customer comes just told them to write down their name and number on a paper because mostly people come on the weekend. So and I'm going to be Monday through Friday. Make a long story short that was a really good arrangement. And after weeks of not paying any attention to the art on the walls, during my lunch break one day, I walked around the gallery and I saw two paintings from a very famous artist and I'm like, "Oh my god, is that like originals?" >> Which artist? >> Henda Lieberman. >> Hend Liberman. >> And I'm looking at it and I'm I messaged my brother, my brother Mayor. I'm like, "Marcus, like don't you have like friends that are into his art?" And he introduced me to a friend. Made the deal. Long story. Within a few minutes was wrapped up. Guy lived in a far away state. I would didn't know how shipping and insurance and ding whatever. I took the keys to my leased car, paid a friend $1,000, drive it to the guy's house, deliver it, got paid on the spot. And that first art deal I ever did was about a month and a half salary I was making at the time working for a nineto company. >> How much did you make? >> I think I made a little bit over $5,000. >> So, >> and your salary was what, a,000 a week? >> Uh, whatever. after taxes, after everything, after insurance, deductibles, it was like, you know, I wasn't making that much money. So, that's when I got the first taste of making real money, um, not getting clocked in by the hour. And with all the businesses that I'm in over the last seven years, I will say that I do always rely on Jadeica art and collectibles to pay my bills >> more than the podcast, >> more than everything. >> Also, something funny is that when my brother basically first saw Clappy, my brother had another partner who kept saying, "Oh my god, he's going to steal our business. Steal our business." And it shows you that like everyone you could you could basically have two different avenues like my brother was saying my brother is more he'll come to your house he'll let's say get the perfect painting let's say I'll work with interior designers whatever that is and then clappies is more in the collectible side like you were saying everyone can have their own spot and like they've got along so well together sitting here together every day >> there's absolutely no competition first of all I'm very spiritual and very religious so Hashem gives parnasa you could open up the biggest door next to your your than your competition and you'll both flourish and you'll both make tons of money. But I would say that working with u Maiishi and Ellie, you know, his partner used to be his partner in art. Um I think they're both doing their own thing today. By getting me into the business, we all make much more money because I've been brokering deals with both of them on a very regular basis. Many times my she gets a deal and Mishi is like, "You want to quickly buy it off me?" I'm still sitting on I'm still sitting on some of the stuff. But when I laid out the money for the stuff that he sold me, either I flipped it right away or I'm sitting on it for when somebody wants it. There's certain artists and there's certain items in the collectible Judeica business. It's like bullion. It has a value. If you don't have the customer today, you'll have the customer in 3 months and 5 months and 8 months, but when you sell it, you're going to make money. Same way people that own property, you know, you buy a heavy uh you buy a property for $21 million. If you need the money tomorrow for that $21 million to invest in a nursing home or some other business, you're not going to buy that property. But if you get a good deal for 21 million, obviously you're going to sit on it for 2, three, four years until you sell it. I see in the housing market, people are like things are crazy quick. People are buying properties in certain areas and flipping them within 60 days. You know, when I lay out a lot of money for a Judeica piece, my wife's like, "DID YOU SELL IT YET? Did you sell it yet?" She's asking me like every day she thinks like in 15 minutes later you sell it. You know, it's not milk in a grocery store. You buy it for three, you sell it for $3.50. Obviously, they have to sell it within 5 to 710 days as expiration dates. Judeaic on collectibles, it needs to be the right person at the right time. >> So on that on that topic, I always like to tell people there's in art and you probably tell us about Judeaica. There are really three tiers in art. The first tier is I would say on the cheap end or the low end is either prints, which I know you're very against, or unknown artist or non-branded artist. You just want to put some paintings on your wall and you do not expect it to uh have any upside. Do not expect the value to go up. You just need a cover on your wall. You should know what you're getting into. >> Okay. So, let me go through um >> Hold on. Let me just get the second third then you can fight. >> Yeah. >> The second one. >> Hold on a second. >> Maybe start. Prince, >> you know what? Let's start like this. >> Prince at the bottom. >> Prints are at the bottom. >> Oil's in the middle. Now, oil with a non-brand could potentially have some hold its value. It does much better, outperforms prints, but it'll cost you more money. And then there's the blue chip art. Blue chip art is Warhol, Picasso, Zman, Kleman, Hender Liberman, Isakultz, Haltz. >> Even a lot of the uh Muchnicks today, he's alive and well. A lot of his stuff is going for big bucks, you know, >> like what? How much? >> 10 to $125,000 even. >> Much? >> Yeah. >> Original. >> Original. Like he has like paintings that are like 7 8 ft long going across the wall. People's entire >> people are asking. >> There's there's real money involved. >> You need to explain. Much still alive. >> I said he's alive and well till 120. >> Yeah. So all the other ones are not cults just died. His stuff is going like a Polish name. cults. Okay. >> You know, his stuff is going between 5,000 because he has non-Jeica small pieces, 5,000 just of an instrument or a tiny little flower, 4x5 or 5x6. And some of his big Judeica pieces are going into the hundred $150,000 range regularly. So, those are major investment pieces in the Jewish market. >> I would say that uh when I say blue chip art means you could liquidate it right away, just like a piece of real estate, you know, you could always liquidate it at a certain price. >> This is the underscore at a certain price. That means if you have a really good Judeaica Haltz, you know, you can get 100 to 150 grand, you're not going to get it overnight, but if you have a $15,000 piece that's of a Jewish theme, a small watercolor, you could probably sell it within like a few days um for a lot more money than you paid for it. >> So, I'm going to do a quick rundown of the list. So, Yuck Holtz is Alma Kleim and Hendle Lieberman Hooie. >> Huie is hot. Yeah, she her stuff's going She passed away like five years ago, >> right? Malvitzer on the lower end. >> Malvitzer is still alive. >> Yeah, correct. But I don't think he's painting much lately. >> No, not too much. Did I miss any other Jewish artists? Blue Chip. Ruben Rubin. >> Ruben Rubin. Yeah. >> Is it Dora Calfman? >> Is it Calfman? We forgot to mention the Rolls-Royce. Calfman's are like 1 to 500,000. >> Yeah, but I sold a Calfman for 30. >> But what was non Judeaic? >> Nonjudeic. So, it's very it's very tricky with Jewish art. I don't know in the non-Jewish I don't know how the war holes or the Picassos and all that mones because a lot of them go for like hundreds of millions literally. Um, in the Jewish market, the same artist that could sell for a quarter million could have pieces going for five, six thousand. If it's not like like Zman Climin, a 50 by60 Jewish piece could be like 200 grand, 100 grand depending on what type of uh what it was, if it was like, you know, which scene and what size. But, um, a little like sketch sketch non-assidic piece could be four or five grand. So, it's very tricky. You have to really know. >> It's not trick. Let's make it unticky. >> Yeah. A Judeica artist's value is when they paint Judeica, right? >> If they don't, if the famous Judeica artist is not paying Judeica, it sells 5 cents on the on the dollar. >> Some like nature scene basically. It's not going to be worth sold climate I've sold many climate nature scenes. They're going for like 10 10% of the of the 10 cents on the dollar. >> I would say even five cents, but >> I've done I've done a few good 10- cents on the dollar ones. But the really depends because in art also size when you're in the blue chip world size matters a lot. So big pieces sell for more. >> Yeah. >> Now here it gets a little weird. If it's too big then the value goes down again because there's less customers for mega pieces. >> Right. >> So you really need that sweet spot where it's big enough um big enough >> climbing 38x 42 was a popular size for the JGA pieces. A good 38x 42idic scene climbing is cash in the bank. >> Um, which I'm thinking other artists we missed. There's that Judea blue chip. >> Barakin. >> Okay. Rafael Rafaeli also very tricky. Very tricky. Raphael. >> So that's unticky. >> 800 to 25,000, you know. But the same artist signed 800 to 25,000 is tricky. >> So T Rafael is another blue chip. I would say T. Raphael is the most affordable of all the blue chip artists. >> Yeah. >> Now, also I think he has more supply. So supply and demand makes a big difference. So if you're looking at that space, if you want to get So let me say this. If you want to get into the game of collecting Jewish art where Clappy's going to first further talk about and all that world, which I know not much about, I would recommend spending a,000 2,000 on its Rafael. Apparently, he was before I got into business was very expensive and now it's it crashed and now it's just coming up slowly slowly slowly and you could spend a th000 2,000 and I would also advise to get pieces that you like for two reasons. number one that you like it so you can hang it up on your wall and number two if you like it most likely more people like it because the more people like it the bigger the demand is because more people want your painting therefore the value go >> what what's amazing about art and I tell this to my customers all the time I was selling I sell a lot of um Judeica pieces I sell a lot of reba paintings reba paintings oil original paintings between$1 and $5,000 I must have sold >> regardless of the artist >> regard I've sold two or three of the same artists over over and over and over again. And I had this multi-millionaire calls me up. He lives in Pomona, like a $3,000 Rebbit painting. And he's like, "I'm going to buy it. Just just explain me why it's worth $3,000." I said, "Let me ask you a question. You told me already you're you're you're a designer showed me you're putting it at the landing of your steps when you go down your steps from the second or third floor uh coming into your dining room. You told me where you're posting it. So, you're going to be going up and down that flight of steps a couple of times a day." He says, "Yeah." I said, "So, you're going to be seeing it like thousands and thousands of times a year." He's like, "Yeah." I said, "So, $3,000? We know you have the money. We know you're going to enjoy it." Like, "You ever go out to fancy restaurants with your family?" He's like, "All the time we drive into the city at night, whatever." I'm like, "You spend 500 to a,000 bucks." I'm like, he's like, "Yeah." I was like, "So, you spent $500 to $1,000. An hour later, there's no zer. There's no remembrance. The money's gone forever." Flushed. Literally flushed. I said, "But $3,000 for a gorgeous piece of art that you love, that you're gonna see thousands of times a year." I said, "That's where you have a question." He says, "Ship it over." By the way, now you see how I clap. He's one of the best sales people. Did you hear that pitch? Yeah. Look at that. You can sell anything. $3,000 piece of art. Which maybe some people watching like, "Oh my god, it's worth nothing. What's art? It's all fake. It's all BS." But it's it's at it basically it's like watches technically. Like, you know, Rolex makes a certain amount of watches, right? someone most people are into watches, right? So, let's say a Rolex or a cheaper watch. It's supply and demand, right? They make a certain amount. That's why most of the artists that we're talking about are worth a lot of money are dead already because they can't make any more paintings. >> And that's why art is better than watches because the artist is dead. Rolex every year makes more and more watches. >> About a million watches a year. That's what they say. That's what they say. About a million. >> Um, so today I was in Shaw and the guy next to me says, "What watch are you wearing?" And I always tell people I have the best watch in the world for under $1,000. TO the Tisso PRX. It's automatic. I have for three years. Not even a single scratch. I love it. Whatever. So I asked him, "Where's your watch?" And he shows me a $6 watch he got at Walmart and it already had like water in the screen. He's like, "No, the first few months it was okay, whatever." It was like seven bucks, whatever. So I say, he's like, "I used to be into watches." I said, "What happened?" He said, "In co he bought a thous $20,000 watch." I said, "What'd you do?" He said, "I have to buy kitchen cabinets a few months ago." >> And what'd he sell that? >> He saw a little bit less. He said he took a little he took a little bit of he said he got at the high end co but he was able to flip it and buy kitchen cabinets so whatever you know he's wearing his cabinets today. >> No I think some people buy art to show off probably like in their house. Hey came into this they need to talk about something so they talk about the painting for a half hour and me you're like hey where's my meal bro and you know some people are wearing their Rolex like to show it off and chill or it's all >> but she mentioned and I'm gonna I'm gonna say it I'm going to I'm going to explain it a little bit more. There's a lot of top artists. I I I could make a list of like 20. We could put it into the show notes probably. There's a lot of top artists that masle it's all masle. It's all luck that never took off. So Andy Warhol and Mark Rothkco, their stuff is selling for like 50, 80, $100 million, you know, uh Likenstein, like all these famous guys, but there were a lot of good artists that lived in the same times in the early 1900s, the 30s, the 40s and 50s that they never took off and they focused majorly on Jewish art. You could buy their stuff on eBay literally between $100 and $1,200. You can get gorgeous pieces of art. And when you buy these pieces, number one, you're getting originals. We we have this conversation a lot, Mosi and I. There's something about an original. An original is an original. Now, signed lithographs is beautiful. You know, a lithograph could look really good. It's a high a high stencileled original lithograph. There's also synagograph. >> Example is a Haltz lithographs going on eBay for 200 bucks, >> right? So a lithograph is where they printed they signed it and they numbered it. So it's also a limited amount. You know a warhole or a Picasso signed lithograph numbered could be worth also hundreds of thousands. I'm sure there's already been lithographs that went for millions because it's all so limited. Now, for the point of having beautiful art in your house, if you cannot afford the 200 grand to get the original, and you get a gorgeous signed lithograph for even $500 to $1,000, and you're going to appreciate it, and you're going to pass by it every day, and it's going to hang in your house, and it's going to make your house feel beautiful. I still think it's a good investment, but I just have a leaning towards originals. Now, just to educate people that are watching the show, there's the original. Original is an original. There's only one in the world's an original. Um although there are artists that made multiple series of that >> only and there's only one clabby I'm just letting you know. >> Yeah. So there's an original painting it's signed by the artist that's one piece. Then there's today they have them called jic. So they make an oil canvas. They like print it on a machine that it looks like an oil. It's like oil paint pigments on a canvas. They stretch it. You frame it. And sometimes what the artist does is she or he will put strokes of paint on it to give it a more original look. >> So basically a real picture and they just put a little paint on it. >> They put a little paint on it. In Israel, Israeli galleries, I'm warning the entire world. I know relatives. I have friends. They go to Israeli galleries. They meet the artist. They fall in love with them. They spend four, five, six, 10, 20,000 and they think they're getting an original. It's not an original. The artist sold the original for Blutgelt big bucks. It's in somebody's house in Wisconsin or Melbourne, Australia or Sydney or I don't know where it is. You have something they took a brush and they threw around some things and they signed it and it's not an original. What do they call it? What do they call these? Mix media. They give a fancy embellish. It's not real. I mean it's real. >> So that's why you go with Clappy and Frank. You won't have these stories. >> I'm not say I'm not putting >> Come on. You see these guys here every week, you know. >> No, what I'm saying is be careful when you meet an Israeli artist in a gallery or an American artist or whoever they are, you know, no pointing fingers. Even if they're in the five towns, make sure they are selling you an original. By all means, buy a mixed medium, but know that the value is not there. I want to say another tiers in art. I would say the first thing is a drawing is usually the cheapest. Um, a watercolor is the next step up. The next step after that is a uh pastel and after that is acrylic/ oil. So in terms of value in each artist usually that's another like I would say a chart to know what terms of value. >> Correct. So acrylic and oils in again for me they look very similar. Sometimes I have to ask the artist if it was acrylic paint or it was an oil based paint but they're on a canvas. They look the same. They're signed. They look amazing. They'll last the the test of time hundreds of years. Watercolor is usually water-based paints. Those are on paper. Oil and oil and acrylics are on canvas. And drawings are usually on paper as well, obviously. And the most valuable, again, there's always exceptions to the rule, the most valuable is always going to be oil/acrylic on canvas. >> So, I want owning a gallery for many years, one thing I didn't notice when you say there, you mentioned before masle and success of an artist. So, I'm going to disagree with you that because I had a gallery with a lot of walk-in traffic and everyone who walked into the gallery who knew nothing about art all gravitated to the same exact artist every single time. They knew nothing about art and they intuitively gravitated to Hakult Kleimman. Uh, in terms of I would say more current artist, Zarnitzki and people >> I've sold some Zarnitzkis. Zarnitzki is like 4 to 12,000. >> Yeah. even cheaper. But the point is that people intuitively know what they like as well as you walk into any store or restaurant, right? Everyone knows, oh, this place is beautiful. So there's a certain intuitiveness that successful artists create and have also creativity, relat relatability. Zlan was very relatable. Um, so when people are relatable and creative, I mean, he's a famous >> Can you explain like what's what makes a good picture? What do you mean relatable creative? Like if someone comes in there and says, "Hey, like what is it right?" Like a a straightup picture is a picture, right? >> Okay. >> So, how >> chocolate and vanilla are delicious. 99% of people like chocolate and vanilla. So, if an ice cream store opens up and doesn't have chocolate and vanilla, maybe don't even open up the gate that day. There are people that like avocado ice cream and pineapple ice cream and lemon mering ice cream, but if you don't have chocolate and vanilla, you're going to go out of business. Bishi, I agree with you. A lot of times you go into an art into a gallery and there's the wild crazy weird paintings and you all know what wild crazy and weird paintings are. Stop pretending you don't know. You all know the people that have like piercings all over their face and tattoos and you know all that stuff. They're it's like strange looking. So you know it is a guy wearing a suit and tie. It's normal looking. So everybody's so politically correct. >> No, but a good picture. >> So a good picture is a guy a hash of a looking yid holding the low of an S- rig with his wife standing on the side and three children around. People are gravitating towards that. You have that from any artist, it's going to sell. >> Okay. So, I'll tell you, I did actually help my brother pick sometimes artists. What I what I knew was selling really really well is a good story in a first shot. I don't know. I mean, it be hard to explain it's art, but I'll explain to the best of my ability is if you see the picture and it takes you just one boom, it hits you right away. Does that make any sense? >> A guy in Crown Heights tells me he has a painting. Um, who's that guy? Who's it a Glock? It's Glock. It's a Glock painting. Um, and he wants to sell it because he wants to buy a different painting. Very common. Trading, buying. By the way, it's it's basically if you have a good painting, it is bullion. You could trade, you could buy, you could sell. >> You get bored of it. It's in your house for two years. >> And it's a picture. It's a Gluck painting of a guy holding a shaka mayor Sharm guy holding an Esther again looking at it. You know the piece. >> So >> I sold it. >> You You sold it the first time. I sold it the second time. So, the guy that's the guy that's buying the guy that's selling it to me tells me, "By the way, it's such a good like chocolate vanilla painting. It's such a good painting that it's on Gluck's business card." Now, most people don't have business cards anymore. So, I I messaged Gluck, "Is it true that that painting is your business card?" So, he sends me back a picture a few minutes later of his business card. So, I sold it to a famous celebrity and he bought it. Whatever. Barv, everybody made money. And I told him, "It's on the guy, how do I know it's one of his best paintings? It's on his business card." So that picture is basically it's it's super relatable. My brother was saying super relatable because everyone shops again and then but it's so intense. You >> remember the picture, right? >> Yeah, I know the picture. >> We just we just raised the price on the painting probably an extra $10,000. >> This is so what's happening is >> now he's going to print another business card. >> So So we were I was just asking my brother what makes a picture really really popular. So he was trying to explain basically it's it's an intense moment and it's also stands out moment. It's not an everyday moment. It's not like shopping for shabas, right? It's the Ess moment and he's like super super focused on that Esser and it's like it's that you know did >> 100%. >> Yeah. So when people ask like oh what makes a good picture it's these stand out moments but again any other artist I know Glock actually went to his house I have a few of his paintings any other artist Glock is actually we're g we're promoting there we go but he's a great guy um super from he's actually when the paintings he has relatable >> extreme relatable >> he's honest >> yeah he he really so he sits and learns and he paints he's amazing you can see it through his paintings what he's what I think he's amazing at doing he he brings you to that moment like I have a schma painting he brings you to that if that makes any sense. Um again if it's too too artsy what I think generally music art and food is if it's too too artsy people most people don't get it like I tell I have friends who are musicians right now who um or are trying to get into one man band every day he's practicing his practicing his music all day. I'm like, "Bro, 99% of people don't know how you sound." The other guy sounds. He's like, "So, he keeps practicing. They have to go out do marketing." And I see actually someone recently started making really big oneman band in Crown Heights. Um, I don't want to diss anyone else. So, I'll tell you this. He's amazing at dealing with people, right? And you're dealing with a you're having a wedding. Everyone has weddings or baritas. The musician starts freaking out or like, "Oh, my son can't sing. My nephew can't sing." Like, that's the only thing they really care about. They don't care if you played a nice chord. I don't think 99% of people actually know the difference in your chords, right? They do remember that the keyboard guy lost it when his grandson sang totally off tune and shouted on the mic. But that's what they paid $2,000 for. That's what they want to hear, right? >> $5,000 for the not to shout on the mic. And how did you handle it? You know what I'm saying? So, back to what I was saying. >> Relatability. >> So, if if you like, for example, on Kry's restaurant, this is Izzy's buff and bun obviously are the best sponsor. We have a butcher which they you guys it's amazing. Um, if it's too too fancy, in my opinion, most people are not going to relate to it. It's too creative. You have to be a little bit creative, but not too creative. >> You know what I'm saying? It's the same thing with art. If it gets too crazy, I'm sure there's people who understand that much better than I do who are like, "Oh, I understand this painting, this, and that." >> Right? Some people do, I think. Um, at least I hope they do. If not, what are they buying? But, um, you know what I'm saying? You have to be relatable, but not too relatable, too. You know what I'm saying? So, so something like Mark Rothkco, they sell for like they sell for like $100 million. All it is is like a a red box and like a blue box and he would put like tarpentine to like dim the colors and windows of the world commissioned him. >> It's exception to the rule. >> Yeah. For millions of dollars. That's exception to the rule. But there's a famous story about like Rothbart's >> um um Rothart Rothco. Rothco Mark Rothkco. There's a story of that like un one of the Pennsylvania um museums had a Rothco on display. It was like a 50 or 80 or$100 million Rothco with like boxes, you know, his famous boxes and colors. And if you go to these museums, the security guards are like in every popular exhibit. They'll be like a security guard and they're like very professional. They have like shiny shoes which are very probably very uncomfortable and they wear like a black suit and they just have their earpieces and it's like you need after what happened in the Louv where they stole like billions of dollars and you need good security. So I guess that's why a lot of these um museums and galleries charge money to come in. They have to pay for security and insurance etc etc. And there's like one maybe rental >> I think they own these things. >> Well, so train of thought. So she's interrupting. They're looking at the Roth News. >> These two ladies are these two ladies are looking at this Roth code that's going on auction like for like $100 million. And one of them and one of them mumbles to the other one, I could probably do this. And the security guard says, but he actually did it. Nice. >> So, like a lot of it are people think that they could be artsy, they could do it, but they actually put themselves out there. They create these drawings, they market it, they get picked up by galleries. I really believe that an artist's success is how much they brand themselves and market themselves. And I'll tell you why. Every couple of days, my phone buzzes and this lady's like, "My daughter is the most amazing artist I've ever you Oh my god, you have to see it." And they sent me the coloring book, the Kev Ra and the Kaiso. They went for four art lessons for $63 somewhere in UIT or in Scarsdale. And they went to Michaels and they bought a $50 36x48 and they did the gold and the shimmer of silver and then they fleckled it a little bit and there's a little patch of grass coming out of the Kaiso and they tell me do you know how many hours my daughter put into this? $110,000 is he? We're not letting it go. And all I'm thinking is Hashem, could she lose my number? Now my inbox. I need more memory on my phone every time. So I've sold dozens of Kaiso for decent money. But know your place. Know your place. If I took four art lessons, I could probably make that Kaiso. Okay? So stick to nursing. Stick to medicine. become a pharmacist. Do title insurance, property and casualty insurance, life insurance. Anybody that goes into art, >> are you discouraging people to give it a shot? >> No. Go into art as a hobby. If somebody thinks their daughter's going to learn how to paint Kais and Kevarles and now they're going to support their husband and Kyle over 20 years, drop the dream now. >> Drop the dream. >> It's an exception to the rule. >> To make money in art, it's called starving artists for a reason. You're not going to become And if you do become rich and you prove me wrong, God bless you and I'll probably be selling your art. Don't go into this to make a lot of money. >> Yeah. And also also I think a big thing like you always hear people say like, "Oh, the guy just splashed some paint on it and it's 20 grand." First of all, it's again it's applying demand. I don't care if the guy splash paint. When Rolex puts out a watch for $200,000, >> it's the same exact thing. >> Yeah. It's three It's $3 of stainless steel. Exactly. And to tr you have these people in China copying the Rolex for $20. So all those people saying, "Oh, just splash paint. Big deal." First of all, a lot of that stuff is is modern. It's very cool. Just cuz you don't get it doesn't mean it's not cool. And some of them might just because the guy has a big name, that's it. It's like if a very famous singer sings a song, maybe it that's what you're paying for. It's supply and demand like any business, right? It's the same exact thing. So I wanted like people always say, "Oh, you got Splash Paint." Okay, that's what he's worth. That's splash paint. And he signed it and that's what the value is. Right. So, art is primarily supply and demand. If you walk into a fancy gallery in Chelsea, Manhattan, you're paying for the brand of the gallery that they invested and the relationships they have with the media and they have a beautiful gallery paying hundred million gazillion dollars of money in rent and they're known and they're sending out fancy thick cataloges. >> I get those fancy cataloges. >> And they're paying their Instagram creators and content. There's so much money going involved. However, the head of the gallery ends up becoming a curator. They just pick. They think this artist is worth put pouring x amount gazillion dollars into. Therefore, they take 50% whatever the number is. But they say okay this artist for for many reasons the personality the creativity a lot of artists have trauma could talk to that I know one of my biggest artists I would say the most successful artist we ever launched lady was divorced remarried is real like the whole story even Joel Glock he's not a regular guy he slept in 770 kipper night one night he decided he wants to come to cry nights for yum kipper he lives in Monroe or near Monroe >> he he drove he drove a recently. Now he's doing our full time. >> He drove trucks. I'm saying you need someone with >> Yeah. No. So my brother's saying such a good point. So y luck again who I bought him early. I knew I thought he would keep going, but he's alive. So he keeps making a lot. So they could talk on the fact of supply and demand if he's going to do too many, too little. You also want to know that when you're buying. Um but it's so and like I think I would actually me and my brother we talk about a lot. It's like things people who are successful it's super super super deep. It's not like someone wakes up, oh my god, I need to make money. Uh, most people I know who, thank God, are successful. There money. I know people who don't have money say, "Oh yeah, they do it for the money." They could say that all they want. It's extremely extremely deep. So, here's why. To to be successful, like they're saying Joel Glock, right? He slept in 770 VM night. He drives a truck, drive a bus. It's they at least all the people I know who are successful and again my family went to pes hotels we went to KMR I went to bunches they all have the same most of them have the same exact things extreme trauma and extreme abandonment issues abandonment issues in my I see it with everyone that's successful so abandonment issue basically is it could be your parents are amazing right so I'm sure your parents are great your parents I kind of know they're amazing my parents are great um well my my mother should come with the podcast back to the point. Um, abandonment issues is basically means you could have amazing parents, but let's say you're like overly sensitive, right? So, you're not going to be fully like watched, taken care of. So, what happens is you end up abandoned issues because you end up um being you end up being feeling secure, safe with just not knowing what's going to be in the future. Take for example, Clappy. Clappy used to work for B&H getting paid what, $6 an hour after taxes, after going there and everything, right? So then he p he was just enough to pay his babysitter, right? >> He was babysitting B&H. I don't know. >> My housekeeper was basically walking out with my salary. It was like and then I had to re me on day art deals all day long. Every lunch break, every time I had a coffee break, I was trying to flip a deal. >> Only coffee break or while you're working >> whatever. It was just it was wild stuff. >> So take someone like Clap. He was working at B&H, which I'm sure everyone works at B&H. Please don't take offense. We pl Clap. He had a great time. He told me to eat Kogal, Chow. It was great food there. There was someone on Charlotte to out a vending machine. >> Out of the vending machine. So you take someone like Clappy it's extremely scary. All right. Tell it to everyone. Imagine going from a salary job where you were playing a cleaning lady. Imagine come clean. Your wife would have killed you. >> Yeah. It was very it was a big after 14 years. It was a big leap of faith to to leave. Mh. She forced me to leave my job. No question about it. He take full credit. >> Wow. My brother my brother help a lot. >> Can I tell you the story? But let's right after. So I want to get on this point. So take someone like Clappy. So I'm sure his parents are amazing, but there's probably some abandonment things somewhere there. Again, we don't tell everyone the whole world this, but anyone successful has to have this. Like we grew up, we had a doctor in Flappers, Dr. Swimmer. We used to ask him, he's like, "Oh, make sure your kids have the most germs as possible." So when they get older, they can handle anything. That was his thing. You know, you have some you're like, "Oh, Clappy is not I'm about Clappy uncal secret for Clappy does not like germs." Okay. But basically, so it's the same thing with real life. So, um, Clappy coming to the real world was extremely scary. I'm sure. I mean, how have you imagine you have family, kids, tuitions? It's crazy. How does someone just go and say, "Oh my god, I'm I'm dropping everything." And maybe a guy will buy my real estate or Amazon or a loan, >> anything, right? It's crazy scary. So, >> anyone that's successful has abandonment issues I've ever seen. >> It means that they they ate glass for many years. can handle eating garbage >> not. Yeah. So they could >> they could handle on the unexpected >> the unknown. So everything when you're starting a business when Clappy even started this podcast probably for everyone to know out there they did this they were they anyway was chill all day together like hey let's make a podcast now everyone started listening they're like oh my god it's so many views. I think that >> you do you know that just we're coming up on our one year anniversary at the end of the summer. People don't understand. We were bleeding money week after week. No sponsors in the beginning, paying high-end studios hundreds of dollars an hour, paying people. >> I'm not done the point. One second. So, basically, the unknown is everything. So, when you're younger, you have unknowns. So, what happens when you get older? >> So, if you survive the unknowns as you're younger, you could survive the unknown. >> Exactly. Those are exact words. My brother said it. So, when you're younger, you have unknowns, right? So, if your parents are too good, the guys that come to want, hey, can I can I work with you? I want to do sales and the guy has really good parents. I'm like I don't think it'll be good. >> I don't tell them that. >> People that have a good healthy upbringing, a lot of money, they're not gonna work hard. >> No, they don't have to have any. They gota be They're not It's just they they only know like, okay, they got their hundreds on their test, they came on time, and their life is great, right? They're not going to go and they're not going to take any hits. It's just the way life works, right? So, you take it, for example, you guys love talking about the cash advance industry. Um, so let's talk about the cash advance people, right? Most of them, if you ever meet them, they have all have high high abandonment issues. Now, I'm not saying some of them are smart, some not so smart. And they they they can every day they're I don't know if you ever go to their offices, they are calling 1,000 calls a day. >> 300 calls a day. >> 300 calls a day. And they love it. They got I do 320 calls you like they you know that's their they love that. They love it because what what I was trying to explain people who do sales, >> they love an uncomfortable in the unknown. >> Yeah. They love the unknown. They love the unknown. It's not and they need it. Also, what people don't forget is then I even if I say they're not doing for the money, I know everyone's like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, you're in dreaming." You can say whatever you want. I I know all I know a lot of people thank God do who are successful. They need that intensity. I don't know if you guys know Clappy or my brother. Clappy needs the intensity. He gets bored for a second. He's like, "LET ME CALL THIS PERSON." You know, there's nothing happen. We're like chilling in the car. Clappy's call. My brother needs intensity. He's going doing his TikTok or viral. It's it's not again they're not here for the money. I know obviously they have advertising their sponsors, but they love what they do and and I think people feel that through the show. Also, people asking why why I think your brother so and Clappy does so well. There's no agendas here. They tell you whatever they feel. Maybe a little too much. They interrupt a little too much, but they're always working on the interruption since day one. So far, I don't know. You guys could decide in the comments if they're doing well on that. But again, back to the >> So, back to the artists. Successful artists. successful artists, they all have abandonment, some trauma, they could handle because even if you're really, really talented, you're going to strike out a million times. And a regular healthy person coming from regular background, hopefully you'll make your 100 $100,000 a year, you'll work very hard, you come on time, you get your paycheck, and that's it. To like someone like Yel Gluck, who I think we all love based on this conversation, it's like he made I'm sure a million mistakes. Like you said, he slept in 770 kipper night. >> His art got a lot better over time also. >> Oh yeah. So he listens to criticism. I went to his house. I said, "Hey, maybe do something like this." So I think that's a bit that's the point I wanted to make. Yeah. >> So successful artist is not someone who went to art classes four times in it. But it's a real story. >> Correct. >> If you have your mother making you lunch in a ziplockc bag every day, you're probably not going to be successful artist. >> Clip clip. 100% agree. >> You know, it's like the guys in Kyle, I love it. The guys in Carol the first year every time I see them with their ziplo they have their cut up vegetables I'm like oh my gosh bro and a year later like excuse me it's really I love that it's like they know that you're taking care of it beautiful no it's nice that first year and car wife takes care have the cut up vegetables and everything's great year later the guys are like oh my gosh but you know it's but if it's too much of that >> life hits them >> yeah life hits them a little bit later >> so I want to clav let's give us a few tips for artists to be successful hopefully They have some trauma and abandonment issues. What's the next step? A artist wants to be successful. >> Like I tell people in social media, consistency, consistency, consistency. Number one, major major major major self-promotion. You have to be at shows. You have to be at Schmala Malcas with your easels. You have to be at places. I sold a very expensive rebbit painting. Very expensive rebbit painting where it's funny. There's a couple probably a few hundred maybe even in the thousands that have the lith the copy of that painting of that painting right and the original and the artist's brother the artist's brother was at a big kangan in Razag a few years ago he paid his brother to stand there all night with that painting he's like my brother wants to sell the original he needs the money maybe a family sim and he stood there the entire night and every time I came into the hallway I looked at it and I fell in love with it and I called one of my rich clients and I'm like why don't you buy it and he's like ah Anyways, I sold it. I sold it. And I was thinking to myself, you have to be out there. First of all, says not sitting in your house and expecting people to knock on your door. Nobody is knocking on your door and asking to buy your paintings. >> Unless you're clappy. >> You have to be out there. You always tell me. You would always tell me, "You want to make money? Why are you home on a Sunday? Go to go with a van. I'll lend you my van. Go take a whole bunch of paintings and stand outside a young Israel on a Sunday morning. Guys are coming for shakers, for breakfast, for sharim. Stand outside, go to events. I can't tell you how many times I went to shows and art fairs and events and I stood there and I paid a friend $200 to help me load up a rented car and go there and I sold nothing. But you know what? I would keep going. You know why? Because a few months later, I would sell some random paintings and I'm like, "You know what? I was at the event, people spoke to me, I posted pictures. You have to talk to talk and walk the walk. You have to be at events. Artists have to go to events. Art the year. She makes two year. You make two year now. Now it's once a year. Art fears. You have to be there. People are looking to see who's there. Posting on Facebook. Facebook's a little outdated. Facebook, Instagram. And when you're not selling anything and you're constantly spamming, it it hits your self-esteem. So people start off on a high and then they just stop posting. And then people say, "Oh, they don't do art anymore." >> And you have people at my brother's fair who people just feel bad for. I'll buy your art. >> You know, you'll price well enough. >> She charged me my charged me 200 bucks for a table. >> I once I was there and I sat there the entire day. The entire entire birthday. >> Yeah. I sat there the entire day. Nobody bought anything, but you know, smooing, having a good time, whatever. And I'm about to pack up. A lady on Union Street sees this. I found this Russian artist on in Brighton Beach would make charcoal drawings of the Reba, the freed, the alterba, whatever. And I would sell them for four or five, six hundred bucks and whatever. I would frame it nicely. I would make a couple hundred bucks. I'd sold a bunch of them and sometimes he was hit or miss. He would charge me a certain amount. Some of them weren't good. You have to like throw it. It was it was a playing the lottery, but you know, I buy mega, you know, you buy a lottery ticket. So over here you pay, you invest, you know, and he one time made me an Alterba one in red. So I brought it to the gallery and I paid a few hundred for the framing and the matting cuz charcoal has to go behind glass. Just words from PE. You buy something, >> right? Otherwise, get rubbed out. >> Get you have to charcoal has to go behind glass. Now, when you go to a gallery, you know, you go to cheap galleries, they charge 50 bucks. No, cuz it's not it's going to be glass that's not UV glass. It's going to have glare. So, every time you look at it, you're going to get you have to put sunglasses on. So, whatever. I put UV glass. I did red matting to match the red of the altar or whatever. She saw it. I was packing up. She paid me on the spot. So, I made back all my money plus profit the last two minutes of the fear. So what I'm saying is you have to be out there. You have to be out there. Artists that promote themselves all day every day. >> But eventually they should get the hint if if no one's interested. >> Again, I believe most people will be successful if they stick to it. All the guys in real estate, they all say the same story. The first year they made no money. They made no money. The second year they made a little bit of money. The third year they started, you know, pivoting. They started going up. They all have the same story. If you go into real estate, then you think >> there's innate talent in art if you don't have it and you're doing shows all day night. >> But if you don't promote yourself and you're not out there and you're never even going to give yourself a fair chance, you have to give yourself a fair chance to survive in business. >> Now, obviously the people that we promote their businesses do really well. >> So, my friend at Pure Aloe, if you don't mind passing me a bottle of Pure Aloe, Pure Aloe is the most delicious drink in the world. Comes in many, many flavors. It's available in all fine kosher grocery stores with a hamisher. Everybody knows that aloe vera is the most healthy thing Hashem gave in the world. People use it for all types of medicational um for sunscreen, for sunburns. It's very very good for the body. 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Everything's local. >> Local source American Angus beef. You can't compete to anything in South America. >> When you're going to any other supermarket, we won't name them. I um they're getting it from like Argentina. I don't know how it's made. It's all local. It's fresh. It's real with the club steak. >> By the way, the beef jerky, it comes in like a bunch of flavors. My son took boxes of these to camp. Boxes of these. All natural, no preservatives. I mean, this is the finest stuff, tons of protein. >> Um, almost no sugar, and it's natural ingredients. The stuff is delicious. >> Your son doesn't take any tradition soups. Just be sure. >> No, he's not. He's not into that stuff. He's not He's very healthy. >> Wow. >> He's very healthy. We raised him well. I don't know. I mean, if he ra, you know, he's very healthy. >> Delicious. >> No abandonment issues. >> By the way, the price the price on this >> if your son is eating beef jerky for the summer. I don't know. 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So, the men are working hard in the city. The wives, the noshams are in the bungalow colonies. They're making breakfast, lunch, and dinner. They're giving the kids fresh air. Now, some people have no money. Barakam, they're blessed in other ways. They're in a broken down colony. I asked one guy if his bungalow is winterized. He tell me, "My bungalow is not summarized." He said, "This thing wouldn't pass code in any in any third world country. It wouldn't pass code." >> But he's sitting there. So no, it's a mic to there's people are going to the bungalow colonies for hundreds of years and even if it's not so fancy the women want to get a change of scenery. The children want to get fresh air, run around. I took my kids to my parents house upstate. They have a house there upstate. All of a sudden they're running around. They're on the swing set. They're in the grass. They're getting fresh air. Now a lot of people don't care for the Bungavville colonies because they live in Muny. They live in Pomona. They're on a half acre. They're on an acre. They live in Lakewood. They live in Jackson. They're in their twoacre property with their with their huge and you whatever. In Brooklyn, people in Delansancy Street and Myrtle and Tomkins Avenue are in a sixth floor section 8 apartment 104 degrees. They have to go upstate to the country. >> They can afford it. >> No. Even if they can't a broken down bungalow colony that's not even winterized or sun. >> So, >> what about like putting a tent up? Would you would you >> What I'm saying is that people like to generalize things, make them so simple. It's not so simple. Even people 100 years ago went to the Bangalore colonies. It's fresh air, change of scenery. The men are working hard. Now, a lot of people are saying that the men, they come to the colonies, they fresh by kadushim, THEY GET DRUNK. THEY'RE DOING IT IN THE CITY A WHOLE YEAR. >> THEY'RE GETTING DRUNK and having a good time in Chabas. WE DON'T WE DON'T condone that. Chabas is a time for the family. Men should not be eating meals before they come to show Friday night. They should not be consuming alcohol. They should be there for their kids. Kadushim are out of control. Kadushim are out of control. There's a lot of women don't make chant anymore. >> Yeah. >> They don't make challenge anymore because the guys eat a five course meal in ch. They come home, they're stuffed and drunk. That's a problem in the summer and in the winter. End it. Eat a little coug, a little ch little herring, whatever. No alcohol, maybe a little little. Go home, spend Shabbat's meal with your families. And the women should put their feet down. Say, if you're not home by two o'clock, don't come home at all. Have a good day. >> No food for you. >> Go. No food the whole week. >> Bring back go to the lake and catch your own fish. You know, >> we took on the scooters. Scooters are all disappearing. >> We took on You took on >> Yeah. We're next campaign is that men have to be home shopping. >> Probably like the summer cuz they people can't do the scooters in the bungalow. >> Yeah. They all banned it all the thing on the on the the dirt. They >> They banned it. A lot of bungalow counties banned anything electric. >> Well, is it mostly dirt roads in Bungle or they have some cement? It all depend all back to that. How fancy is the calendar? >> Do you think you think the woman should get golf carts every Does every woman need to golf their own golf cart in the bungalow or what's your opinion on that? >> The golf carts. >> See the woman need everyone needs to Everyone needs >> golf carts are for sure a lot safer than the electric scooters. >> But who has 20 grand for a golf cart? >> I think Will said he has a he could do >> wheels has golf carts for people. >> He has a place up state that does golf carts. >> Okay. So if you want to feel rich and fancy wheels to lease guys they have a golf cart for you. My guess is that golf carts are like >> the biggest like like better than a Rolex, better than better than like a private helicopter. If you drive around your colony in a fancy golf cart, >> like you like like mic. >> You're like king. >> Like the king. >> It's like in camp benches with the kids hanging on the >> Yeah. In camp the head counselors, they only get the job for the golf cart. Did you ever see that? They'll walk they wouldn't walk two feet from the one side of the basket to the other one on a full. You ever see I I'm like I was a camper. I'm like, "Oh my god, that's so cool." The walkie-talkie in the golf cart. You can't get better. >> Walkiealkie and a golf cart. >> It's like the highest level >> office in I was that counselor. I like a day cam. So like I made sure like no walkie-talkie on the side. Like I can't I'm >> You have a whistle? >> No whistle. >> Clap. person has 10 grand to spend in collectibles. Okay, you talk about collectibles, tell them how they should spend it and really that you believe that could go up in value in 5 10 20 years. So, first of all, I'm going to talk about all right where someone should spend 10 grand. So I want to say something handwritten of GD is holy GD is I find in my five six seven years doing this because the first year or two was just paintings and I got into a lot of kaviads and artifacts of sadikim artifacts that a sadic wore a shirt that the had a walking stick of a bell all that stuff it needs to have very very very very good documentation but today in the last hundred years if you have like a a picture or a video of them using it is one level of certification but a a a letter signed by the tadics mashurus or almana or family members that documents and especially if that's from a very trustworthy person hate to say this is like more hakum and less hakadam% >> but like big rebs that have very very big followings like something from the satba rau kadesh if something from sat something that an artifact that he wore for or hand letters that he signed or wrote. Well, stuff that he wrote or signed you could I could document in a I could I could authenticate in a second. That stuff is like bullion. It's like cash in the bank. That goes for a lot of money. >> How much I >> stuff from the sareba to that he used the wrote in >> that documented everything could be $100,000. I mean crazy six digits. I just realized if you want to be guys you want to like sell like really high artifacts like Clappy saying you get Gdolan of the week you know the GD weeks they have in like the Torah times Hamodia you keep doing week pictures of yourself you just have to send it in by it could be anybody with a white beard like the up hat and then you be like marketing yourself like okay you want this it's only $500 I'm going up just letting you guys know if you want to make money yeah living >> letters letters pisc responses that are signed and dated on the stationary of a gule is worth more money than if it was written on a piece of paper. If you have fax paper, 9 by 11 piece of paper and a gull wrote a chuva and he signed his name and date. That's great. But if it's on his stationary, much more money before the war, European gdylum before the war are worth a lot more money than like Israeli chief rabbis Ashkenazi far. >> Who's the most expensive god? Because because a lot of the European sadly hashem were in the 3 weeks time and morning a lot of them were killed in the war. So there's very limited amounts. A lot of our chief rabbis who lived in Israel, there's thousands thousands of responses on their stationary with their let's go back to worth a lot clappy to invest in Judea with you obviously. Where should they spend 10 grand today? >> Artifacts of GD with good documentation. >> Give like a sample supply and then buy that 10 grand. >> So I'm going to go lower than 10 grand. I sold >> you have total 10 grand extra lying around. You want something from something from a very popular reba Smer Bells G S Bells G >> Labavich major major major market now I sold many stuff that belong like mostly like books signatures letters stuff from the labavatureba the previous rebba the rebab is a lot less available double-sided pages from the third kabad rebba major major major money. You have to make sure it comes from a good source. Very very important. You have to buy from reliable people. You never want to be involved with something that might not come from a good source. >> Look no further right here. >> Look no further. You have 10 back to you have 10 grand. What should you buy right now? Buy a letter for two grand. Let's break it down. So give them >> again. >> No, just break it down. So give with estimate numbers. >> An artifact of a gudle. You look at auction records, you could find a second, you could find something good like for who? >> Example, >> a becker from a Reb that's very popular that recently passed away that sold at auction multiple times. You buy it from a collector. It all has letters of certification pictures. You can get it at a good deal, a cash deal, I don't know, >> 5 10 grand all the time. >> Artifact artifacts from spend 10 grand today. You should buy one >> artifact of a gold that they actually use. artifact of a gun that he actually used with good paperwork, pictures, documentation, >> signed letters from that gule. >> How much is a letter from the Reba right now? >> A letter from the Labavich Rebba, there's anywhere between like $1,500 and $10,000. >> What makes >> If it was written like between the year his father-in-law passed away and the year he became Reba, written on um um not the traditional stationary, but like mach is stationary. If he added a few lines in handwriting, a lot of times the Reba just signed his name, but sometimes he would add a few lines. If there's more caviad, the more money it's worth. Um, it could be letter Rashana letters that the Reb wrote like in 1944, 4545,46. Not on a stationary, just a real card like a Hallmark card. >> Do you have anything from our bureau from Satmer? Like what do you have from that? >> Depends on the day what I have. There's no given day. Um it's SR rig box that belong to a sadic audending on the saddic you know it could be worth a lot of money. Um >> what's the coolest thing you ever >> give an example you could get into this market for such affordable prices. I sell books that Rabbi Yosef Maran commonly known as Maran books that he wrote inscriptions for bar mitzvah for weddings beautiful letters of braha signed a couple hundred dollars they sell like hot cakes stuff from chief rabbis you know >> old dead people >> no even if they're alive >> you sold any alive stuff >> yeah I sold stuff from living people chief rabbis of Israel a couple hundred dollars ma yao I mean now now he's not alive but I'm saying stuff from chief rabbis that are still alive um so Mayor Lao is he alive >> by the way Get your assigned stuff from Clappy right now while he's alive. >> Is by the way, not only not only not only Sadikin but prime ministers of Israel. >> Clappy, how much is your cup? >> Bengorian. Bengurian. I sold books that Benorian signed. Um um um um a lot of manaken bean a lot of manaken collectors. Um golden mayier books signed by her. I sold limited edition books from Benorian leather case books. Yeah, I sell everything. You know, I sell Tiana and by the way are buying sats are buying ti stuff. They're hiding it in bookcases all the time. >> Clabby, are you selling one of your what? Are you selling your hat? >> How much are you Could you We need to do a signing for Clappy. >> I never selling Are you selling a regular shirt here again or no? >> Probably. >> So you could sign the boxes. >> Sign the boxes for extra $10. I'm serious. >> Guys, we need to hear in the comments below. How much would you pay for Clappy's shirt he wears in the show? >> Wow, that's a good idea. >> How much is that, guys? So sign it. The clappy signs much >> documentation. >> Documentation. You saw it on the show. By the way, a living a celebrity ride here when he's you don't need the kiddish cup. He had a shirt. By the way, he cares more about our shirt than the kid. >> Not yet. You are. >> I don't add to that stuff. >> What does that mean? >> I don't know. Most of the time you get hold. You get a birthday message request. What do you do? >> Depends on the person. We need the most charge for a birthday message. >> I I don't remember ever charging for a birthday message. I don't believe I ever charged for a birthday message. >> Charging. >> No. >> It's Clappy here, guys. wishing you a happy. >> I think you're on Cameo. You used to be on Cameo. >> I don't even know if it's an active account >> with me with the first >> So books. One second. We're getting >> everything he did. He was went on cameo. >> No, but before I was the picture you told everyone knows that. >> Yeah, we spoke about that. Rabbasha Feinstein, one of the biggest sadikim gadihadur that passed away in the mid mid I think 86 maybe 1986 85 86 um he used to commonly give dbras his books he wrote on as far he wrote on halaka or he wrote on gamra um Igris Mosha is um dris mo is on garam um he used to give a lot of kalas a signed inscription if he knew the signed letter and with his signature I saw them all the time 600 to a,000 bucks >> for one signed book. >> One sign, but he used to write a brahitz sometimes. Um, yeah, those sell. >> So, it's cool to have for $600, you could just anyone comes to us, I could tell them all about your signing. >> Yeah. Arab science from him. Um, I'm getting a I'm getting a sid today signed by Kanye who was considered like the biggest sadic and Landau and one other signature. I'm about to pick it up today. Um, >> what does it sell for? What are you asking? asking in the mid 90s maybe you know >> also this is something from a sadic it's very very holy >> yeah and he wrote a bra on it >> you have stories from the rabbit dollars where this crazy sells all the time >> how much are rabbit dollar >> I sell rabbit dollars about $770 anything I sell documented times dates family letters of authentication >> I was saying also there's stories of people have rebbit dollars very special stories not just like a little >> I have a FedEx envelope I need to drop it off on the way out today the guy's getting it for his mother's 80th birthday you know rebbit dollar that handed out the date the with coins, >> dimes, nickels. >> Yeah, dimes, nickels. >> So, I'm going to back to I'm going to throw the question back at me. $10,000. If you have $10,000 right now to invest in blue chip Jewish art, I would tell you to get a clault watercolor drawing or get you a Zman climbing drawing watercolor or a Hendle Liverman. Maybe get an oil smaller one. What else you get for under 10,000 Raphael? >> Talking about climbing, Mishi, you you'll definitely get good commission. I have 23 climbing. Uh is that water cover pastels? >> It's something. >> I got 23 climbing Hagada pieces. You can reach out to us. We have some nice climbins for you. >> Clap. What was the most you've seen one of your clients flip something they bought from you? And how much money did they make? >> Crazy money. Give >> money specific examples if you don't mind. Um I I think it was a Schwarz a ML Schwarz. We never spoke about ML Schwarz. He was popular Schwarz whatever >> bought a Mikl Schwarz for like >> the guy bought it for like5 or $5,600 >> original >> original sold for like 18 grand a few months later like like chick. Now again, you know, people say they bought properties for a million and they sold it for 10 million, you know, because they were building the Barlay Center of Flash. Again, I'm not here to I'm not telling anybody that they're going to buy something from me and become rich overnight. But something that you enjoy and appreciate whether it's something from GD and and and or letters you know you could hold on you know the salazer the salazar was like the salazar one of the biggest puskin >> saw a beautiful handwritten letter pass by my desk a beautiful handwritten letter he was writing to this billionaire in America >> yeah the monkreb who was also a huge pisik not necessarily is a reb also like a big bucky and haka pisik people were like arguing with me like which one of the sar rabbis could and better. I was like, "You guys making a joke? You're talking about sadikim." Rebas are like for braas and Yeshua and to give. If you want to ask like if your fork fell into a chicken soup and it was you know you don't call your reb like you're arguing who could learn better sadik rebas are not here to discuss who could learn gamar better but the salazar happened to have been a huge pisk and he was a reb. So, I had for sale a couple of months ago a letter he wrote, beautiful letter he wrote, um, asking for like a rich American guy or a rich guy in Europe to help him pay for one of his his his single he only had one child child's wedding like a really personal deepfelt letter etc etc whatever and it was signed not only by him but by signed by like the Russakal and the another r in the community it was just it was so historical >> I don't know I was trying >> I saw some >> but no but but the thing is it was in my house for a few weeks until it sold And I literally like everybody that came to my house, I was passing it around. There was in a in a plastic sleeve. It was like you were holding such a famous Jewish piece of history. I saw a guy by climbing for $3,000 10 years ago. >> Um he ended up selling it for 23,000 10 years later. It then sold after for $80,000 within a 10ear span. >> Yeah. >> Was paid the guy bought it for three and it sold for 80,000. >> Okay. So my my crazy climbing a lot of the climbings I was involved in brokering. Um a lot of the times I don't have it. I just make the shik and then like whatever I get paid a little commission so it could be a big deal and I get a few dollars whatever. >> So more than a few >> no whatever. So I had a crazy story. A guy owned the painting and a guy wanted to buy it and I had to work on the buyer and seller for a very very long time. They ended up doing the deal for $160,000. I got my couple of bucks, whatever it was, my my commission. Another Jade dealer, art dealer, you know, we're all friends. We're I don't know what people think, but we all get along in this industry. We're all best friends. >> Yes. >> Okay. Guy tells me, he's like, he's like, Clappy, you don't understand. He's like, a couple of years ago. When he says a couple years ago, it could have been 1996. He's like, I sweat tears and blood to sell it. And he tells me the doctor he sold it to, whatever. Like it's all like legit stuff. He says $11,000. >> He sold it for 11,00060 >> 10 years, 20 years later. How long later? >> Let's say let's say 20 years later, 25 years later, >> how much percent is that? >> 11 to 160. >> 10,000. What percent is that? >> I don't know. A lot. >> I heard someone uh my friend Ellie likes to say that the Rockefellers say that their best investment they ever made in ROI in terms of upside was art from all their investments. real estate, this that the the world of collectibles is crazy. I the the Daytona the Daytona Paul Newman like I think that's the world record of a watch that sold for like 2030 million a famous um Rolex watch but watches selling now for like a million dollars or like an everyday event. People always send me links of Cardier, Bonhams, um all these famous Phillips, all these auction houses where people are so into collectibles. There's unfathomable amounts of wealth today. So to have another cool house or a cool boat or a cool car, you're one of many. But a unique piece of art >> or a unique piece of art or a unique watch that's a oneofone collection and the value is there. >> So if someone's looking to buy a besides from dealers, what other sources could someone buy things? And how do they know the value? Let's talk about that. How does someone know what the value is? Is there any way they could >> There's almost no there's almost no secrets anymore. everything. Like I sold a I sold a Moxer set. A Moxer set. I sold a Moxer set on uh Thursday for around $4,000. This Moxer set has sold at auction many times in the last few years. You can check up the auction records. >> What type of Moxer? >> It was a It was a Venice Moxer Sharbas. I'm throw whatever it was. Whatever. 1701 to 1705 or whatever. It's sold many times in the last few years, anywhere between like $1,500 and $5,000. Um, depending on the condition, depending on how many volumes, because a lot of times it's printed in very, very large volumes years ago, and then people break it down. The main thing with you really have to know what you're doing, but it's easy to look it up. For example, people call me every day, how much is a safer worth, vari 1900s. You have to pay, you couldn't pay me to take it. So what is a year that really cuts off? >> It's not. It's not. It's okay. So the shin stuff that are like 500 years old, 400 years old, usually have value. >> How much? >> Anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand. And then there's stuff that could go for 50, 80, 100,000, 20, 30,000. But if you find stuff that were commonly printed in cities in Poland, Russia, Ukraine, cheap makurim, sedurum, tahillims, kamashim, tanak, 1800s, 1900s, 99% of the time there's zero value. Literally 5, 10, 15, 20, $100. And even if it's worth a $100, you'll find me auction records. Don't call me about it because no, I can't because stuff that was commonly printed 1800s, 1900s, Poland, Makarim, Kamushim, Chris, zero value. You're going to show me records 50, 80, 100, 150. I can't deal with it because I don't have the time. When I have when I get pictures, I have to get the item. I have to take pictures. I have to crop it. I need to put my stamp on it. I need to write up a description. And then people are going to call me and bargain. And I know it's normal that somebody's going to bargain with me. So, if it's a $2,000 item and I'm making a few a few hundred bucks, I could deal with >> a good website to check uh auction records. You recommend? >> I don't want to sit here and talk about one auction house over the other auction house. You put it into Google chat GPT. It will show you all the auction records. Auction records are not are not so good always because a lot of the times in an auction, people are very very very hot. They wanted it and then it's it's very dangerous. By the way, I've bought a lot of stuff at auction. It's very dangerous. That means I know I want a certain thing at auction and I put in a 300 and then it goes 350 and then after 500 it goes up 50 or 100 bucks a click. Remember when you buy at auction you're paying 25 to 28% hammer fee and um shipping and all that stuff. A lot of processing fees. So auction records you know whatever when people don't buy at auction they right away cut out 30%. They right away cut out all the numbers. So you're going to have to give it at a much better price. But also when people should sell through people like me versus an auction house for a very very simple reason. Auction house is taking fees from everybody. And a a mocker that could sell for has many auction records of 4,000 that's starting it let's say at at 800 or a,000. You know if it's something happens that day and people are not following the auction and it sells for $1,600 and I could have sold it let's say at 3,400 no auction. You just lost tons of money by not selling it through somebody. Again there's a time and place for everything. Auction rack auction houses are also very good because I've seen Sedurum like from Kim Kim Kfki a sitter of his that he used in letter Letter letterman that famous Sha Benrock sold last year for like 100 or 105,000 and it was really I don't know if it would have sold for that much money at not auction. So some stuff are much safer to sell through somebody like me. Some stuff will do better at auction. >> What are the risk? >> I might open up an auction house one day but whatever. >> What are the risks? I think you should. What are the risks of something getting burnt in auction? What does that what does that mean? Could you explain when someone lists something there's a risk that >> so if you put something at auction that you think is going to sell for $30,000 based on five other auction records that went between 26 and 34 you think you're going to get 30 you can't start the auction at 30 because I've always found that when they start the auction records at a very very high starting price a lot of stuff don't sell a very very famous auction house who I've done tons of business with the guy and I'm not going to say his name you'll realize why in a minute had an auction a couple of weeks ago and it didn't do well. I looked at the auction, I forgot about it. You know what happens? I don't set my calendar. I looked back and I would say like 30 40% of the lots were passed. Passed means that they put uh let's say a certain price, a minimum bid to start and it didn't sell. Now, the worst thing about if you have an item that's a one of one, let's say you have a halt, a big halt to oil and you think it could go for 130,000, but you don't want to get burned forever. You don't want to sell it to a guy like Moshi or me or whatever or Ellie, whatever. sell it for let's say 50 60 and they'll sell it for let's say 70 you say I'll put it at auction and I'll start it at 70 or 80 whatever and then people say you know that's a little bit high and nobody bids on it now it's a past lot anytime somebody Googles it for the rest of their life it's an unsold lot you permanently damaged your piece that it has an old sold auction record >> we talk about the handle that went to auction >> you know recently a handle went to auction and had a a high reserve which means that it wouldn't sell unless it hits a certain number. That's the way we said it. >> Oh, so that one had a very interesting story >> cuz I know they got offers from >> It had like a $95,000 minimum. No, but the reserve was 135. Okay, so I People don't understand this and nobody probably nine nine and a half out of 10 people don't know this. >> There's a minimum. Okay, so when you go to an auction and a painting says 17,000 start, that means if you don't pay 17,000, you don't get nothing. No, it's not starting till 17,000. Most auctions just say 17,000. That means if you're the only bid at 17,000, you get it. Plus tax in New York City, 8.875%. Plus 28% hammer fee or 25. Some auction houses are 25, some are 28 plus shipping. I don't know. Maybe sometimes they'll give you free shipping, but they usually charge shipping, funny enough. >> Charge everything. >> Yeah. Shipping. So that's what you're paying for. Now, sometimes in gray or orange, it will say reserve. It will say starting bid 80, reserve 100. That means if it goes between anywhere between 80 and 100, the buyer could tell the auction house, I changed my mind and I'm not selling it. So, you won the bid at 80, but it didn't get to the reserve of 100 and you do not get it. So, there was a Liberman that had a um um I think it was 95 starting reserve 125. If I'm off by 5,000, it's somewhere in that ballpark and it didn't make the reserve. Um I had cash off cash. It had people that were ready to buy it at around that price >> somewhere around the hundred. I don't know, the deal fell apart over like 10 grand, whatever it was. >> The point is that the guy selling it thought if you put it on auction, it would do better. >> Um, and because you put on auction, he messed up the dealer because it didn't sell. Did it meet the reserve? >> I don't know the buyer. The auction house is very reputable. Again, I don't know the seller. The auction house is a very reputable, very reputable guy. I I'm not here to put him down. I'm just saying it's not auction. There are risks. There are risks. There are risks with putting something at auction. However, however, there are people that literally made incredible amounts of profit by going the auction route. Correct? >> You just got to do your research and do your due diligence and ask third party people that are not buyers. >> So, I would say based on that Liberman's story is the auction house doesn't set the price. The seller does. The seller lists it with the auction house. >> A good auction house will help the customer. >> I've seen I've seen full I've seen people that have estates >> 50, 60, 80 lots. good are my friends that own auction houses. They they they did good marketing. They notified the right people to do the right hype. They chose the right dates. Like if it's a kabat auction, they chose or gimlvat. If it's a sat marba stuff, they'll choose the satb's yard site as an of the sarb is a liberation from the holocaust of kislave. You do sat stuff. You choose baba stuff. his yard site showing above his yard site I think is like yal Thomas if I'm off by a date you don't have to correct me in the notes you could that's why it's free whatever um you know selling it at the right time advertising it in the right places setting it at the right price fear because basically something from a big savic that sold for 10,000 you started at five I find that if you started at 9 nobody will bid you start it at five you take that risk of 3 four grand and then it will go to 10 12 14 15 you got to set the price a little bit lower >> cuz psychologically people click bid they feel like they own it already. >> Yeah. You need you need that to jump in and start the bidding and then it goes up. If there's no bids it's like nobody wants to take that, you know, leap of faith. >> Yeah. >> Wow. Really cool. So yeah, that's the idea the downside and the potential upside of listing it on auction. Um what was are we allowed to see the biggest deal you ever did clap? I don't want to talk about >> the biggest deals are usually the deals that I don't make that much money so I don't care about them. >> You know I don't know with you a lot of these big deals like these hundred 2004 million dollar deals. It's not your it's not your painting. It's that guy's painting that by painting. They give you a little broker fee for making the shik happen you know but you just sell consistently the thousand items the 2,000 the >> like selling Apple stock. You're not going to make that much. You're going to make a lot more in like the >> buying eBay Facebook marketplace. You ever you ever done that? I've had very good experiences buying on eBay. Very good experiences. You find some random like climb had very few lithographs that he signed. You like they pop up on auction $3 $400. I've had a very good experience. A lady sold me a climbing lithograph signed very very good piece, very not popular. Um and it actually came and the glass was broken and I messaged her and she's like, "Could you just go to a local gallery, fix it, and I'll pay you every penny." And she refunded me like within minutes. She was actually bothering me. I was waiting for the gallery to give me a price and like she was messaging me every day, Izzy, could I pay you already? I want you to be happy. Whatever. I had very good experience on eBay. I've got stuff on eBay. Then there were issues with the listing and they you you got I got refunded. Like very I had very good experiences on eBay. >> People think like Amazon took over eBay. eBay is a very very very strong company >> for collectibles. >> Somebody told me that eBay does billions and billions of dollars a year on car parts. That means if you let's say your mirror of your car breaks or you need spark pl I don't I don't think about cars. I get new brand new cars every three years. Um you know I'll have wheels to always take care of my cars. But people that have used cars didn't you just recently have a good experience and you need to buy you go you go to your car you go to a mechanic that you trust. You tell them give me a list of all the parts. You go on eBay car parts whatever it is. Very well priced. >> Especially have a older car like mine. Mine's a 2015. I need a window. Uh I'm a window a mirror. And >> guys, we're looking for a sponsor for a new car. Please comments below. We also if they want to sponsor more than welcome. >> But what's recently knowing an artist and its market very well recently aklak cult sold a big one of the kaisel sold I think for around 30 35k which is surprise. >> But the problem with the kaisle was it had them big >> it's ramy flag in the background. Oh the mask. So even though it was a huge halt, it was a great piece, everything had it, but that mouse made the value go down. >> Recently, I tried to sell a friend of mine. >> So therefore, knowing the artist and the market is so you have the right artist, if you don't know the right piece and you don't know the market response, >> it could kill you. >> M I asked you a few weeks ago for a painting a certain size to fit the guy in his kitchen. Yeah. And he loved one and he backed out of the deal. I didn't tell you. He backed out of the deal because it had a big Israeli flag in the background. He's the guyy's a stickle tin but he said today he didn't want an Israeli flag in his house. >> You you buy estates? Yes. Tell people >> So many lawyers, law firms call me since I've been doing this over 10 years and I come and buy out estates >> and uh we come make offers even if there's furniture and there's other stuff and I sub out all the all the deals. We buy out the whole entire state. >> Yeah, I know that cuz my brother like fly to Florida for like four hours. I'm literally his wife's like he needs he needs him back. >> But um a lot of quick trips. Clap. Could you give us the top GDM that sell right now have the most value? So, >> so I sold a single volume of >> Don't say any items. Give us the top 10 that sell for the most money. >> Cast anything with anything associated with the Bishay of Castra Mosha. He became very very very popular the last 1015 years. He was always a major. The Crown Heights had the karister mikvah the reb used to use in Crown Heights 50 70 years 50 60 70 years ago. Nobody heard of him. Um your bishay anything with his signature anything with that's that he touched or held like I I've never sold any but I know they go for crazy money. It's a popular request stuff from the anything related with is very popular and was um theim um he was killed in the war. Um you know very popular um stuff from um um the Gerarebus the Imis uh again stuff from the Alterba the Alterba um anything the Balata major money rao title bomb the SB that lived through the war a major money stuff from Bab the old is major go for a lot of money >> so all the big right big yeah go for the Balmp like forget about it. the Renaire like oh my god like crazy like major major money the lo later later like right now Kanye stuff from him is very popular the stipler um um the uh the um who else um people that lived in Aritus um nowadays you know fairly priced but more affordable which ones are going more or less >> okay the against. >> Okay. So, first of all, first of all, the first print of the Tanya, okay, >> first print of the Tanya um the auction records is tough nunv is $300,000. >> $300,000. A guy I I held a copy in my hand. I spent two days trying to sell it recently. It could be it's still available. >> Um I know the buyer my my buyer was trying to buy it and I know the seller very well. >> Um this particular one has like a lot the last four pages are mostly fasile. That means the last four pages were like um mostly missing. So there's a little piece of it left. So professional people that work with artifacts were able to make the last four pages again to look like it. The shot is like 90% not there anymore. The first page. Okay. Most important thing with all sperm, even a $100 safer or a million dollar safer or a half a million dollar safer. The most important part of a safer arguably between 50 and 80% of the value is the SH block, the title page. If the charlot is missing, it's usually I don't want to deal with it anymore. I don't want to deal. There's farm stores that will. It's not my specialty. >> Even the the what's the famous bombberg shas? >> Bombberg shots shas villas. >> Hold on. Bombber sh without the the the charlot. >> I want to get involved. I want to get involved. >> Those sell for what? $10 million. >> I DON'T KNOW. I want to get involved. >> Bombber sh is worth 10 million. >> Okay, so another another thing I want to say something. Slavita. Slavita. Slavita is like the Cadillac like a Slavita safer because it's the the Slavita stuff are all very good money. I'll explain you something about Slavita. I have Slavita sperm that I sold for $1,000 and then the Slavita um um shots if you had a full shots could be worth a half a million, $800,000, a million. >> It's in the 70s. The Slavita is very very very prestigious. They printed really good paper and they were very very famous brothers, the Shrapira brothers. They were sadikim. They were very very special people. When they printed the Tanya, the first Tanya was Slavito. They put the the metal plates in the mikvah. >> Wow. >> They were miserish. They got beaten by the Russian government. They were imprisoned at some point in their life. The yarmaka fell off. They beat them up because they grabbed a yamaka. Very, very special holy people. anything printed by Slavita um worth usually worth decent money like but and a certain like Ashkanaz versus that there's very few prints of hills items that were used a lot are worth the most money because used a lot they get ripped so to get ava or that's in condition very pop very good now if you have a complete shas from savva You're paying double, triple the money. Why? Because you have to go to every Judea's farm deal and follow every auction for the next 50 years till you're going to put together a shas if you get a full shas. But if you get a random volume, a random volume of shas, it's not in half decent condition, it could be 1500, 2,000, 3,000. If you get like a mitzia, the yeshivas, the ones that the zik, I don't know if any >> the zikin. Oh, sad nazikin. Oh, you can see my amiratas. You can see my amaratas over there. No, whatever. Yeshivas that got used the most. Those are worth a lot more money because most of them are not in good condition anymore. They're all ripped up or they were put in Sheamus. >> But a mas that you know, I don't know, a random I don't know that nobody ever used. Hurryas I don't know that nobody ever used in mint condition could be worth only like very little money because it's not popular. >> Bombberg 10 million. I don't know the numbers, >> right? I mean, it could be in the millions of >> what does the museum in Crown Heights have like everyone who comes to >> the Reb's library. Just a common >> tell people about it. >> Just a common misconception. The Labavich Reb's library is mostly booksum 99%. The artifacts that they have, I'm going to guess is 95% labavbas artifacts, but most of it is. And they say it's from the top three or four Judeaic libraries in the world. There are like the theological seminary, the reform movement in Cincinnati, yeshiva university, >> and there's a few other popular the >> Where is that in? It's next to 770. >> The labre library is next door. It's attached at 770. >> I believe it's free to >> anyone could just go. >> I think it's free maybe by maybe after certain hours. Maybe if you want to like be guaranteed if you're bringing >> the most expensive stuff, right? Slavita is is like is like the blue chip, you know. Slavita in good condition, good shot. You're always be it's always worth money depending on how rare it is. Auction records, if it's a full set, if it's a half a set of that print, how many they printed 300 years ago. >> DP camps. >> DP camps are very tricky. D I this is from blood, sweat, and tears doing this for many years. DP camps and Shanghai because the yeshivas and mir and a lot of people escaped to um to Shanghai, China during the war. I find that stuff that were printed right after the war in DP camps and in Shanghai are very similar in priced. A lot of DP camp and Shanghai stuff are worth between $50 and $200 or safer. However, there are very rare exceptions where there was a very very short small print um and it was printed by a certain god or some of these gadur were in the DP camps or they were in Shanghai and they used that safer they stamped it with their personal stamps. They wrote in all about they wrote footnotes all of a sudden that $80 safer commonly printed safer could be worth thousands because it has all their footnotes. It all depends. Would you recommend someone running around to all the old shs in America or Europe and trying to find old books or it's been done already? >> First of all, I believe they've all been scavenged. They've all been taken. Um, also you have to sleep at night. You have to have a conscience. If you go >> No, obviously making a deal with the sh >> making a deals with the shaw. A lot of these deals are not really proper deals. Um, and also if a shaw's sitting on a thousand dollar Mishna volume and are you really giving them $1,000 or you're saying nobody here learns from it, I'll give them an arts girl for $22 and I did them a favor >> swap. >> I don't recommend anybody doing anything that's not a,000% legal. Anytime you sell anything, make sure you collect your state sales tax. Make sure you send it properly. If it's an item that does not qualify for media mail, only send things kosher. uh ensure everything everything I recommend everybody should be done according to and they do it according to state laws federal laws when you're bringing things across countries make sure you have customs brokers the last thing you ever want to do is something that's not a thousand% legal hicely and um legally you have to make sure you cut cross all your tees dot all your eyes >> any more questions >> um >> that's a no >> no All right, he has all the answers. >> Um, >> so is that it clap? If someone wants to reach you to buy, >> somebody wants to reach me to buy or sell. I have an email that I never check. Really easy atgmail.com. >> You could talk about the bungalow as clap you want to talk about. >> Again, my email is srycgmail.com. Um, >> and if you want to buy any artist, >> the best thing is is 9174426603. Just ask me to subscribe or text me or WhatsApp me and ask me to add me and I you can see my WhatsApp statuses. A lot of the times I post stuff that are for sale. How did I beat you my >> email me at mochefrankgmail.com m o r a n ki gmail and you could reach if you want to sell in the state more and more in the art space and if you want to sponsor obviously reach out to us we still have some sponsor slots right lobby >> table's getting crowded but we're if we believe in your brand strongly and we have a way of incorporating you into our show we'll be happy to take you on >> and we believe you're going to pass then it definitely helps >> and the most important is that pure or aloe actually now are selling in a lot more stores. So it's yeah >> this is not just that you're not putting your Adam or Ammy which people are not reading maybe on Chavez they're forgetting the rest >> we've been very fortunate to be involved with corporate sponsors that we strongly believe in their products and we enjoy their products. >> Are we allowed to say the secret that we actually help our sponsors get business? Are we allowed to say that Clappy on the show? Off the record on >> say it. Besides advertising, >> somebody advertises with me like and I meet people that are need that product, I'm going to be like, you can't you want >> Let's be honest here. Yesterday, we were calling stores to carry Pure Aloe. We're working with distributors. With all our products, we get a lot more involved. >> We called two distributors of Pure Alo and asked them why they told one of my stores that they're out of a certain flavor when the owner says that he has skits and pallets full of them. And we put the warehouse manager on the phone with the distributor to make sure that they're getting all their pallets picked up. We take our corporate sponsors very seriously. >> We're part we joined. We're kind of part >> I'm a brand ambassador. I don't have sponsor brand ambassadors. >> There we go. So that's hopefully you learned a lot from this episode about how to buy Judeaica, how to buy Jewish art. If you have any more questions, you could uh reach out to any of us on email or text. And that's it, right? >> Yeah. Have a happy, safe summer. Stay off electric scooters and enjoy the bungalow comments. >> Tell people about the bung. You wanted to see some bungalows before. >> You already did. I'm done with the bungalow. >> Done with the bungalow. >> Also, if you have any suggestions of guests, feel free to email us. And because we're always looking high and low, we like to thank our co-host. Guest, what's the word? Guest host. >> Guest hostim Frank for doing a great job. One of the most eligible bachelors in the world. >> Thank you. >> Now, I just But he was on our first, I don't know, five, 10 shows. Yeah, >> he was in the background. >> He was in the background directing and producing >> and some of those are the greatest hits. >> Yes. And definitely when he's here, we definitely fill in questions that I don't think of or ideas. Usually he's in the back waving a iPad or >> I do know you had such a great voice. Your family made a CM terror for your brother on the show and you were on the truck singing and jumping. You made such a great atmosphere. >> Thank you. >> He needs a backup singer at a wedding. You could I think we How much do singers get at weddings? Any two to five grand a while back? >> One second. What a singer. >> How much do you charge? >> I used to I stopped doing it. >> Why? You wouldn't do it now? >> Now he's a big tech, 1800. You wouldn't do it >> now. He's a big tech mobile. He doesn't have >> No, I run a software company now. So basically, in short, >> so you wouldn't sing at a wedding for 1,800 bucks >> because you have to be in the mood. You >> wanted to You take a couple of shots of this bakan. You'll be you'll be in the mood. Mix it with the aloe. >> You have to you you also I want it to be good. You you know, you have to be >> You recorded a few singles, which >> I do. Yeah. In my free time, we're starting to record an album possibly. Let's see how, you know, hopefully it could come to solve them. >> No, but my full-time is I run a tech company. Basically, in short, I have a rental car software. We're small companies that want to be or small mid-size companies. We give them insurance, um, payments, tolls, all that. So, basically, we're we we have a bunch of companies around America that use our system. So, >> white label. >> It's basically people out growing Turo. You have 50, 100, or a few hundred cars. We basically white label your whole thing. >> What's your company called? >> Softcar. Soft. >> Tech.com. Put put in the links. >> In the links. Yeah. >> And also I like to thank my brother for all his amazing introductions, you know, to my business. Appreciate that. Obviously. >> Um, and >> I used to call my brother after every show for feedback. Lately, it's been a little >> He's so confident. He has everyone on the street like, "Oh my god, Mike, you have the best show in the world." >> So, I used to call every I used to call him after every show. Lately, I don't know. It's been a little slacking. >> No, this this show is perfect. Obviously, every single comment the same exact thing. Oh, you guys interrupted much. Guys, this is their natural state. So, you kind of want to You want them natural, but you also want to shut them down. They I'm telling you one thing. They always try not to interrupt each interrupt each other. They're doing their best. I can promise you. They talk about it like off camera. Well, how do we interrupt less? So, keep commenting it. And also, >> I call it live editing. So, >> live editing. Also, another thing is people who are making Clappy crazy and chill, wherever it is, please stop. It's getting to his head. Okay? Please. He he comes and tells Mishy, "This guy's calling me." He says that he called the travel company. He found a cheaper one. He found the cheaper one and the guy in the next bungalow. I'm like, and my guy's telling him like, "Lappy, just relax, bro. These guys are just boring. >> Do not pick up unknown callers." That's it. >> It's the same people. It's the same people commenting on C alive and world are calling him. So we keep trying to tell him >> co easy easy with co the commentator the people in the comment section are calling him non-stop and he doesn't know who to take serious so we're trying to filter that out for him it's a learn a work in progress >> but um I we tried telling him they just want to talk to him he doesn't doesn't realize that he doesn't realize just want to talk to him so they complain about the ads and he's he takes it personal also we really take the ads personal like you were saying which is amazing >> but yeah >> all right thank you so much my thank you so Tune in next week. Like and subscribe.