How The (anti) Missionary Rabbi Ended Up Living In Indonesia - Rabbi Tovia Singer PART 2

hi this is D olowski and welcome to the Robert olowski show it's my privilege now to present to you the second part of my interview with Rabbi tuvia singer um the first half of it received a tremendous response and I'm sure the second half will as well um the sponsor for this second part of the interview is sponsored under anonymously with deepest to rebowski for the he provides through this podcast Hashem should give you continued health kak and the ability to beaz his people well I can do that as long as I have good people like you sponsoring the show so if there's anybody else out there who's been thinking about sponsoring we can use your help for coming to the end of our sponsors so uhem good people like you are going to continue if you enjoy what we do here to keep it going and uh don't forget to like share subscribe and comment and uh now the second part of my interview most Christians I have found don't know anything about Christianity I know more about Christianity than they do and that's kind of sad I mean like I'm talking about the just the beliefs and the and the foundations the E the ones that are easiest to get out of Christianity the ones who are more knowledgeable and I I will share something that I'm sure you know though we've not had any conversation you have met GM people who are genuine convers of Jewish faith and almost all of them that you know are former Christians and what is intriguing about them is if you go back and ask them they'll tell you that not only were we Christians but we were really from really very religious Christians Evangelical Christians the more they know n black on the show oh he's a sweetie point and he studied he was Mish right so it's in so I'll tell you so the the cons Christian religion also has their liberal denominations okay that know very little but as it turns out the people who convert to Judaism and are coming 95% coming from the e from Christianity are coming from the most from Christians who are the most knowledgeable Christians a minister he was a minister he was a right he was a theologian he was absolutely so he so therefore it's not coming from let's let's say Hillary Clinton okay so Hillary Clinton is a Christian she's a Christian but she's a a liberal Christian very liberal right that's not the kind of people that convert to Judaism it can happen but rub vast majority of D coming from the most knowledgeable Christians most serious Christians who are taking god seriously and therefore when they hear these objections they go one second I I need to hear more by us is the opposite who are the kids that are lost to the ranks of Jews for Jesus it's Punk ha it's Jews who know nothing about the faith they've been asked to abandon it's it's not B Yeshiva who sat and learned with us it could happen look there is one in a million you have unfortunate cases in history you had even the chief Rabbi of Rome after the Holocaust who wanted his job back his name was zi Israel zi and he when he came back cuz he hid out in the Vatican and after the war he came back and said I want my job back as and they beat him up on the street because he didn't save the Jews of Italy of Rome he let they the gapo took them away then he ran back to the Vatican got baptized imagine that imagine the have the Holocaust so onethird of clol is murdered and then a year later the chief Rabbi of Rome converts to Christianity and taking on the name of Pi the 12 it's mindblowing imagine the agony the clra was enduring that we have that so of course you have these anomalies in history of these very dark people even in the Pablo Christian Pablo Christian wasn't a RV he was a Jew in France uh Pablo Christian was a Jew in Spain who converted to Christianity but he became a kite first as did Nicholas Don these are very these are really really bad people that are um you know the were the you know there were some dark figures in history that come from look the people who the guy who started the Reconstructionist movement you know knew how to learn You Know M Captain was not an Amah hearts and whatever it was you know the that's just it's these are look in truth if you look at tanak the truth is that in the ancient world the non the Pagan religions were much more successful than Christianity in the time of Elijah the prophet only 7,000 Jews didn't bow only 7,000 Jews were from the Jews were worshiping B like crazy righto own are from Jew he could have been Messiah was the greatest davidic King that ever lived says beish no one ever before after him be he had a son that was worshiping now he his son does TR Masha repents look at whose father a was a nightmare nightmare he died younger 36 he ruled for 16 years so it doesn't work that way as it turns out Christianity of all the false religions that attack our faith is the least successful with from Jews because it stipulates it's based on tanak and therefore they get caught if you don't make that claim then you can get away with it but Christianity is very vulnerable it's the easiest religion um to expose and show that it's false because of the the claims so you see these missionaries and you say I'm I'm going to dedicate myself to fighting them oh for sure so you start collecting literature not fighting loving them I I don't mean loving in some weird way like I love you contesting disputing them yeah but you have to be very careful because you you don't want to hurt someone's feelings you have to be very careful with your words I first of all do not attack them I answer their questions my show on YouTube as an example is all calling live shows and what I do is I respond to the questions that they ask you have to be very careful to play the black piece using chess as a metaphor responding to their objections rather than introducing your own you don't go to Christian say this is why I think you shouldn't be a Christian really offensive just rather say please tell me the reason you think I should be a Christian what's the most persuasive reason and respond to that don't you don't you don't if you if you don't like somebody you don't want to learn from them correct so you want to make sure you don't become a person they don't like and no one wants to be just told you have to know how to talk to a Christian you have to know what's meaningful and you know you know my rebi taught me years ago Hashem gave gave you two ears and one mouth try to maintain that ratio learn how to listen so when I'm sitting with a Christian I let them talk I say just tell me what what's what is the and I'm listening for the anomaly I don't interrupt him every single thing that he says that I disagree with I don't point out I wait for that point that canich and I'm sure you do the same thing as well with your T in that when someone comes to you with a problem I never interrupt people what's that I never interrupt [Laughter] people so you have to learn it it takes time you don't want to offend people because you offend someone like you and I would not want to learn Linguistics from no Shamsky even though he's a genius in linguistics why because we don't like him personally you don't want to become an unlikable person I'm not fing I think I'm a nice guy so and I also because I understand Christianity and I understand how they got themselves in that much trouble so therefore it doesn't bother me because I understand how they got themselves in this much trouble I want understand the process you make the decision that this is what you're going to do how do you go about it well you the first lecture how would someone become you know To You singer well what would he do oh today it's easier than ever in the old days I had it easy in a way because there was no internet so therefore in order for me to help a Christian I had to speak to the Christian I had to sit down one but you didn't know what they believed in and where it came from the resp they make it easy it's not like the Drews that their religion is some big secret on the contrary the missionaries are very happy to share with you all the reasons why they believe what they believe and then what do you do with that study it carefully you do your research you have to understand what it is they believe you have to have a lot of patience you have to know what is it they believe and why do they believe it why is it compelling what is how is their brain processing this information cuz people tell me they go back and forth and they're not listen so you have to on the level I'm doing it at you have to really listen what is it that you believe and why do you find this compelling and then what you have to do is unpack it in a way that they can understand you don't want to attack CU people can't handle that rather you want to slowly go okay let's just examine the evidence what did you do well I read through the Christian Bible very very carefully and I read you know commentar commentaries on the Christian Raymond Brown would be very important I a lot of people won't do that but he's probably the greatest um New Testament scholar in the english- speaking world in the latter half of the 20th century so his work this is not for everybody but his work I'm just I'm so M Messiah very critical you have I watch a lot of TV and I use that reference you have to understand a few Raji you have to understand the scholarship but I I will tell you this it's very transparent what's going this is not hard okay you don't have to sit and study ainus for this this is really the Christian Bible is very simple it's very naked it's very what's happening is very transparent it's October 7th and you're taking notes of steers and things yeah what what yes all everything and all the above I write you're learning a bean yes and I'm writing books on it it's very netive no but you're still in high school right how you doing this no but I if I go to Thea guy back then and say okay I want you to go battle Christianity no the first thing is you meet a Christian the Christian brings up some verse in Isaiah right so you go back to the verse in Isaiah and you look it up you know when we in yes and we come and we're learning and the g is quoting a how many of us actually got up from the and pulled out of yes didn't happen too often now it's not a joke now when Paul quotes in chapter 9: 27 in Romans is quoting Isaiah 10:22 so it's very important to know Isaiah chapter 10 now as it turns out Isaiah 10 is M delicious because it's about the story of and the destruction of the 10 Northern tribes and the more than 40 cities in yudu and that there be a Remnant that will be preserved it's very gorgeous it's very powerful it's one of the greatest miracle that occurred since the um since the Exodus was when the Assyrian Empire Army was destroyed was wiped out on on PES on PES Jews went to sleep inim thinking they were they were finished they imagine they did that they ate from the p and went to sleep and they woke on the morning and there was no horses and they looked over the wall and there was 185,000 dead soldiers this is the great nothing like that ever happened since since Mountain Ty there's nothing like that so therefore that was a traumatic event but it was why didn't Kio sing Shir people he didn't say the one says that's why he was the Messiah but why didn't he he was the greatest King that ever lived he was Second Kings 18 verse four says there was no one before him or after that was as great as so why didn't he say she so people give 500 reasons for it and every I don't know why people don't get this it's so transparent that there was the biggest Calamity at that time too and the Calamity was that the that the whole claur was ripped out everything more than 40 cities in Yehuda were destroyed everything but was destroyed and all the whole North was destroyed so there was a tremendous trauma I I'll tell you something personal thought I had I I know I you you know April 13th the Iranians sent over 200 drones and missiles and Rocket ballistic and I watched it with my eyes I didn't go into the room I watch it I don't know why but I watch it and I could see the these things because I knew what was happening right now I ask you a question we celebrated and went wow that was amazing of course of course but did we really um this is a very intimate moment right now want you listen did we really thank Hashem to the degree that would be logical just logical there's nothing esoteric about the answer is really not mean we went wow this AR miracle and we went on with our day why didn't we sing Shir to the level 185 whatever was missiles and drones and ballistic missiles aimed would wiped us out and we really we should should have been say Hal why didn't we because we was so damaged from October 7th that and with the war is still going on right and they NE hostages now who is sitting bivia in Gaza right now and therefore we can't be sh because we're in so much pain we're totally traumatized so people have understand that's what's going on in times of you know Ki there was a great Mir hundreds of missiles aimed at little air to sh and the Jews of course we were thankful but there was no Shir why no sheir October 7th and we're still in the middle of the war and every day neb who you and I wake up in the morning we go online to the news and we see neb face and we fairly we we we just hope we don't recognize the name of the person you know it's it's very sad so we we are all traumatize you and I will never be the people we were on October 6th last year and therefore it's hard to say sh when there's so much pain going on that's so you prepared pic by pusk you'd go to them they'd say something to you you'd look it up you get a response then you'd come back and then they give you another one I feel like was more to than that no no no initially it is but then you start to you have to study it look it up you need to know you got to know everything look this is all I do it's not like I I mean I've heard you on these on these on these programs and you're just rattling off so much and like I say even in the course of this conversation how many from Jews have heard of a aquinus you know mean how many from Jews you know could list the the various you know priests and ministers and historical figures it means there was a lot more that went into this than just ah you said shot Isaiah 6 oh but I've got a Cas because I looked at them before I over here and it doesn't say that okay what about Isaiah 20 oh I'll be right back I go back I look it up oh good but I can give you this stair what happens if you drank Isaiah what happens if you sh when I when I walk the streets of Yim yes is rolling in my mind and 95% what he wrote was poetry right so you can interpret anywh you want no it's not that it's not it's just I'm saying when they go and they take something right right it's very vulnerable right right but I I'm dizzy with it because he's using a word why did he say it like that why is he using this Lush and and no one no one used The KES the way he did there was no parallel to Isaiah terms of the L unbelievable why did he use this only fantastic it's so I give you examples I mean say it's the end of Isaiah Isaiah is very angry people who are keeping Mitzvah but they're really not connected so Isaiah says he says you know all your Mitzvah are like are so it really says they're like menstrual rigs that's what it says now usually translated filthy rigs but it really says it's menstrual rigs why is he such a m weird language why and it's like not a nice thing to talk about but what he's saying is something fantastic what's menstruation it means that a woman drops an egg and she the egg was never fertilized right so Isaiah saying you don't you get it we could have had a baby together if only you would have not only kept shabas but you would have cared for the Widow for the orphan for the weakest members of society we would had a baby and neb we have something else we have a period and that's what so Isaiah is using language so powerful how does it knock you over how could you not be shocked by that so therefore when I hear a anyone say something about yesaiah and it's a fa is so good you you eradicated what it actually says it it shocks you but you have to be completely into no it has you have to eat it and drink it's really quite very gorgeous very delicious so that's what you you said I'm going to go and dedicate myself to Navi you have to and the person who did it is the and I I say this to every viewer if you're going to try without the barbano you're going to fail you will un that's right more than Mal more than no Mal came later and he's copying not that he's copying he will start something that no one else did so there's no one like the barell born in 1437 in Portugal he dies in Italy cuz he goes in the garish the point is know most people would not know that I just thought I'd throw that out as an example he wrote his than just reading he wrote his whole Parish in 1581 on for 1481 on the NM multivolume in 6 weeks there was no mind like the Abel theel is the only if you want to think of how you know he wrote in six weeks we know he writes it down exactly he what happened was he was born in Portugal in 1437 he was going home he was the head of Finance he was the head of Treasury in Portugal right he he is told the Christians admired him they looked up to him like crazy he's on his way home in a carriage going home at night and the Christians come over him they loved him they speak about him in the highest way no one else like him and they said Rabbi you have to leave is a new king and he's looking to kill you okay he turns the carriage around and he crosses over into Spain and the time he enters into Spain until Fern and Isabella discover who's in their midst he had a little interim period of time it was really coming up to the winter and it was during that time where he finally had a moment to sit down and that's when he writes his Parish on the Nim they then hire him to be the Finance to do the same thing in Spain which he does for 11 years from 1481 to 1492 they tell him in 1492 he fighting he was a multi-billionaire I'm willing to pay you off that don't do this garish he he had saved many Jewish he's a multi-billionaire genius of there's no parallel to it you'd have to go to the rambam to have that kind of mind because he was a Maverick of every he do no one ever did so he then is hired in 149 too he's running now for Spain their finances and they he's offered at the end of the game he's he he offers them billions they won't accept it because of a Jew who converted the Christianity stops them named toam and then they say to who a Jew to toam was a Jew h a Jew Mish yeah and Tok convinc he he when he heard that the arabo was offering they needed the money cuz Columbus was setting sales on August 12th of 1492 he was Jewish too now we know he was Jewish we always suspect it now we know he Jewish but the point was he's going so and this Jew who converted the Christianity goes in he throws a cross on the ground he says you're going to sell out Christ for 30 pieces of silver the way judas's Carri it did and he walks out and they they he's M anything but by your blood you live and therefore we had great people of Kyo is born in Spain but as a little child he comes here you have other Giants coming who happen to meet in and the is written because you have an intersection of all people that because of left then barel said they offered him they say stay in Spain stay in Spain keep a minion with you you don't have to con anything keep everything you have and keep a minion and stay and he says if my people go I'm going with them and he goes taly and in Italy he that's where he spends his life and everything else you read that was written by barel was written in Italy and it was nifter in 1508 he him Min no no once he was he was a very very wealthy man and then he devoted his life to ra Tooney with and yeah they allowed him to it they they it's very interesting so the Christian Scholars the high level Scholars do quote Rashi and radak but they quote them in a way that's not pleasant whatever they'll quote it but the barbanel look called the philosopher or the great doctor they they speak of the barbanel is something totally different to them he was theel my friends I just say thisel did something that no one ever did before and that is he comes to any para any Su and he says we have problems and we have a whole series of problems and let me present some questions and you're go wow I never thought of that and I never thought of that and he presents five or 10 questions and he says let me give you the solution and what he does he solves it with one equation and it solves every issue and oh now I got it no one had ever done that that's why if you want to go through tanak particularly Isaiah with rash you're not going to have a there's no one today on this planet who's an expert in Nim that does not rely on the barell period end now there are subsequent Giants who use the same type of teaching but prior to that if you go to theak go to rashi rashi takes two words and says okay it means this and this but what why am I told the story what does this story have to do with anything what what what what is going on here why did he do how did how did it come to do this is a Storyteller meaning he says you need to look at the big picture there's nothing like it just like when the rambam when he wrote ra does that though yes the ramban incidentally wrote his Parish right he's wordy but doesn't use this style but right he's more wordy and lays it up no he'll start off with this is what we learned from this AB he didn't get but V this is unprecedented to do this on this level his also very important to read his introductions his introductions it's like why do we need we after all and we have why do I need that his introduction to sa is very critical the key is he's unique and we all if you listen to anybody on Oni it's always a barbanel without a barbanel you're not going to understand that we all rely on him completely and he's a j that just no one just like no one wrote All of like the r did and he was a young guy he was in nothing how old was he he was in his 20s he wrote he and here's the smartest person that ever lived possibly the smartest guy who ever lived smart and he is able to write in not just Hebrew but the easiest simplest Hebrew that anywhere going same because that was the point of the mission T it was something that how is that even humanly possible I mean you and I I have visited University where I've lectured and I've seen blat gur without rashan Tes because they're older than Rashi and I've seen that at Cambridge University P they showed they have and that means Rashi was looking at a CL right oful and that's all you had was gar it's so it seems to be a superhuman feat to have done what he did of nor lber uses M the Torah as a proof of God right he says no human could have written this and he's writing he's he's not he's not writing only you know what time and what and how what just call the thing and what make he's writing onon it's like it's just not it's not possible for no soel is in that world it's interesting he wrote in his in his what's that in his last in Testament last will Testament that every Jew should learn and they should learn the guide to the perplexed every Jew should do that should learn T and should read the guide tolex so he of course the rambam for him was giant he argued on the rambam because he was a Reon the was the end of the he had a ofon I always said he was bar was the end that means after bar was n he he died on shabas his sin is in Venice he was visiting his son in Venice and he was nter I think he was on chabas and that's where it's seen to the day and he he was just completely right so he's the end 1508 he's nifter and that's the end of the reim and then we do have a luminary who emerges and that's the Von who simply is just but that's 200 years later 200 years later but he's arguing on R which was unheard of that means and people recognize that he was just did not belong to arodor but the Abel was it so you have basically the the bookshelf like the beginning of theim is basically Rashi and the end of theim is theel and theel basically in terms of his intellectual understanding and his ability to communicate and organize information you know what did Rashi do during the Crusades with a chicken feather so it's basically you come to the end of a TFA a personality emerges that basically is a throwback to the very beginning so yeah there's nothing like the B okay so you learn tanak you read New Testament now what do you do you go out there but I'm talking people are contacting you my my son is involved in in Christianity I mean before we started someone was talking to about their own child was involved in Christianity you know someone's involved in Christianity I know somebody who's involved in Christianity I'm always families are always contacting me or Christians are contacting me are you yeah of course now there's a difference today there are millions of people who watch me on YouTube millions of people okay and as a result of that I have I have like 20,000 right right right so yeah the thousands of people but you have people you think now will hit your whole now you're going to be a big hit so so the point is that now it's different you means you and I do not have to do public speaking as much as we used to cuz we can put out a program like this and people can watch it all over the world I've never spoken to an audience of 20,000 people you know I I spoke to a few thousand Etc but never in in person 20,000 it's well when you're speaking to a thousand people at a banquet you know that you have to basically entertain and you have to basically keep things very concise you can't go into depth because you know you're holding a crowd but when I never do anyway so it makes it easier for me when you're on air we could like we're doing now can really take it apart right well that's what they say like you to take someone like Joe Rogan who keeps you there for three hours you know what I mean and and just keeps asking and asking and asking you know you can go into a much he make a wonderful J yeah would I he would because he asks questions he's willing he has a lot of yeah and you you need to be able to ask those very critical questions right I if you know him tell him I'm available I always always talk to him about go to I always he's plotting he he can't get over you you ever been on Joe Rogan no no you've been on any of these big podcasts and things I'm on pod I'm interviewed I mean I'm on another interview oh my yeah I'm on another interview a little in a in in a little while tonight I'm surprised Ben Shapiro never had you on but I don't fit into his world his world is very different that is a I I guess having someone in not Christianity would be he does religion he's on priests and ministers and the large I don't know this but a very but I I don't I never had this conversation with him a very significant number of his viewers are conservative evangelicals so he understands that it's very his partner who both co-owns um um daily wire is an evangelic Christian Jer boring right and he has neb he has one he has one guy who's on very nice fellow conservative grew up totally irreligious who converted to Christianity so he has one guy he has another guy who's Catholic on who's married to a Jewish girl really yeah but she converted to Catholicism so you know you have it's so the whole world the whole world that he's enveloped in are Evangelical Christians and he's doing what he does but it's different what I do I'm here to help so you confronting missionaries where did they go from there then where where's your journey you're you're out there speaking to missionaries you're responding to them but I'm writing books on the side you know wrote a number of books on the topic and then I then people say Rabbi explain to me Isaiah 53 so I explain to them I said this is crazy you know Isaiah 53 is is is 12 passages right it's it's a whole thing what's happening there you know who's speaking who's talking about if you don't know it's poetry it's the fourth of four servants I heard this guy in California Jews with Jesus guy he says the Jews have come out with an Isaiah where they left out chapter 53 oh the lies you know it just made it up right it just Punk it's the Christians that left out everything but Isaiah 79 and 53 that means all these Christians you go to a Christian say tell me what it says in Isaiah 52 tell me what says in Isaiah 54 they have no clue they have to look at it so let ask a question I have a sh for you isaiah3 you knew you knew bah 54 you don't have no clue you have to look it up we build know half twice a year on on that woman who is Barren and who's hated and so and Hashem promises her that no weapon call is that no weapon formed against you will succeed this is like the waters a no to me that's why I read it twice twice a year so it's really gorgeous so no it's just the opposite they're projecting themselves onto us we are learning all of Isaiah they da only learn certain passages ripped out of context and therefore of course it could look Crystal as a point you made earlier when literature is poetic it's very vulnerable very susceptible conversely an example I gave on here yesterday in a different interview I said if a text is not poetic you don't have to read it in context as an example if I'm walking in the forest of Indonesia and I see a Bima and I don't know if it's a ker b or not so all I have to open up is the 11th chapter of The Book of Leviticus which it tells me how to recognize an animal that's to that's clean right all the animals that I to their cutting they have fo Fe Stay With Me the show has to be you know I have ad you know that but the point is that the point is that Leviticus 11 could be read out of context and You' be able to identify if a marine animal is a coat which doesn't require so you're fishing you catch a fish I want to know is this fish I can eat it or not eat it you open SC yeah right exactly I have fins and scales so it it has fins and scales so it's CL we know from the oral T that it has if it has scales it also has fins fine so I know I could kill it any way I want to and EMB bril it and cook it they how to kill an animal so they need live Deuteronomy 12:21 where it says you have to kill anal man I've shown you and then you have to go to and so on and getting rid of the blood fine so my point is that Leviticus 11 you can read out of context cuz it's only of whater animal Isaiah the3 is the fourth of Fourth servant songs that will launched already in Isaiah 41:8 and9 so you have to know that what the servant songs are about you have no Isaiah 4189 and 4311 44121 454 48 20 493 in order to know Isaiah 53 sure okay that's what I was going to say by the way I know I take it away from you I'm taking away the Limelight from you cuz I H you to get a few customers and subscribers I I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to get to okay so now you're writing books you're doing this where do you go from there oh then then a very doctor in Dallas says to me Rabbi come to Dallas I'll fly you out every week and give a lecture at the Jewish Community Center of Dallas now Dallas right responding to all the things that means can do lelic in yeah it's like borrow park for Evangelical so so he so I said how many weeks do we that I'm not sure exactly but let's do every week so I I think it was maybe every Tuesday night I would fly in at that time it was I don't want to say which CH line but rhy was rental so I whatever it was I flew into there and I did a thing and the place is packed you you couldn't stand no three quarters were gam from All Over Texas K the first was Jews and a lot of Christians but then you because they wanted to argue with you because they wanted many of them want to argue with me and there are many many and in today that were there that came to show me why I'm wrong at those lectures I gave in the90s and they converted to I don't know how many the I'm not going to say the Ben no movement started at that series of programs but it did I mean no I'm not saying it did but it really that like was and it was really an amazing thing cuz what I did was my thought was I'm going to record it he knew you from the books but I thought I need to record it cassette tapes at the time and now when someone came over says I want to know is 3 I said here's a cassette tape that cost 10 cents you know they get a blanket make it and they'll go read it and they would do it and they would do Chu so that's what it was and then everyone figured out the business model aspect of this it wasn't I wasn't trying to but there was nothing like it no one had ever done that before so I organized the information a way that people can understand going from the who's speaking who's speaking about you got to expl how do you work out a lesson plan when you don't know how many weeks this is going to go on it's from The Experience that's why I'm lucky because there was I I said at the early part of our interview that I'm really lucky why because when I saw there's no internet why does that help me because I had to actually sit with a Christian right I actually talk to them and I had to listen to the Christian you understand and therefore I understood how their minds worked because I actually had to hear what it is they believe in you how manys I was in battle I was Battle it's years I'm always years you whatever it is you're always developing new IDE look you're developing new ideas in Insight with all your self-deprecation you're always developing your mind and new insights every day so I'm always now of course because my memory went just remembering it again I know that 90% of the questions you are asked number one you've been asked already once and number two and number two is you have five different answers to any of them and when you ask the question you have to size up you have to shots up your audience who you speaking to which answer you're going to give for this question based on the person who listen so you don't have one answer you can hit it from any direction that took me years to learn how to do because I would always say things that would offend people and now I only do it sometimes okay but I had to like figure out how to present this in a way because I would give answers that were technically correct but used to not make people what do you also do I I'm just going I what you also do is after you answer a question let's say 20 years ago you answer the question but then you go home and say you know I could have added from this right and and then you then go perfect it you say you know what I could have answered I could have added something more I didn't say something I could have said I said something it really maybe is distracting so you're always refining and refining until you have it and they have not just one answer but you have 10 answers or 20 answers and you have to decide based on who my audience is what's the predicament we're in of which answer they're all true but which way are we going to attack this so that's who you are so when years and years are developing and you're always learning the learning curve never stops you're always developing new ways and we are both I am sure always think ideas in yahadus that were that bothered us when we were younger and now we're oh now I understand what Rashi meant when I was a kid in and reash I said what so what's so he's saying I saying four words I don't even know what he's talking about it's seemed like what are you talk and then we come back to the Rashi 25 years later go wow man so that's what happens you're always developing and and tire is no end see one thing I want to say one thing to you yes okay the one thing about the New Testament is it's very easy the gospels are very easy to read but there's no second level there's no I don't like sequels you know where guy gets married and has a baby you know I was like you know I like the originals you're impossible so the point is the Christian not have any lower levels it's just that's it bang smack in t hav there's no end to it there end depth depth lower deep deep hotter more and more delicious so now I'm going to keep coming back to this now now you're giving this class once a week in Dallas right where does it go from there it all is growing I mean I'm doing public speaking again there's no YouTube yet YouTube all over the world now how did that happen people say I want to hear you speak no they people hear my video then they speak and it's videos back then so people watch that had vhs's and they had my videos the people what they film it they put it I don't know people word gets out I mean when did you become like toia singer that everyone knew who this is the guy to go to know it's not like I have a lot of competition there are very few people in the world that do what I do at this level yeah so it was you know just people wanted to learn it happen to be intriguing it it also is intriguing because there's really a there's something dark going on here this is not this is like this good and evil here no one heard this Clarion call except you nobody else that's a question that's a Cas for the rest of the world I don't understand why more people aren't if you're the only one doing something it's really a cash on you and I'm trying to figure out how it some I'm looking the transformation right now you are world famous you have thousands of videos everybody knows who you are everybody knows what you do where did that go from learning in the mirror to this it wasn't from giving a class once a week in Dallas no no no it's it's it's listening to them trying to understand there was something I wonder the so there was always something perplexing to me so I'm always learning I'm studying is very deep and I'm trying to be why do would you believe in this see as a religious kid I'm you know from kid I'm going why would you believe something so there's no there nothing like this in tanak nothing so but but there these are intelligent people just describe the trajectory to me where did you go how did this happen it it's on my own I had no one to go to there was no one so they that was good because it meant that I didn't have to work with preconceived notions I had to forge it on my own how many years did this take till they were flying you all around the world to speak about this I don't know it didn't take long cuz right away I had a lecture here then they heard oh he was a big hit I'm going to have him there and then it goes on from there but it's um you're not F I did not you were still living in America no one to right there was no one to learn from really there were other guys there it's not I wasn't the only person were the people who were attacking this issue but we had nothing we had a book written by a carite 200 years ago who argued against Christianity but he was really arguing against Roman Catholicism was not really relevant so you really had to work it out on your own are kaplan's book yeah but his book was written for NCS wires so it's very rudimentary I but it's very rud and it's fine IAP wrote that safer as a prophylactic as a barrier to prevent C from becoming Christians cuz Jew happen the same time but it's not written on the scholarly level that we're going deal with it's great it's great for young men and women to learn to go through fine but not if you're going to get someone out of Christianity it just doesn't that's for someone to prevent them from getting involved at this level and I told you the people who are coming to me and to you who are not Jewish who want to be M these are the most sophisticated out there these are you know as I said these are not the liberal Christians you know this is not you know Rudy Giuliani is a Christian but he's kind of a I don't really know but you know he's probably a a liberal Catholic you know whatever you know he's a having you know nice man and uh you know these are fundamentalists you know these are serious serious Guys these are not these are hucke guys you know at some point you leave uh America leave who America um yeah yeah come to Israel actually go to Israel first now I I heard that you were in Indonesia yeah for 5 years what is that what is that it's the fourth largest country in the that I cannot wrap my head around how do you I understand you go from New York to Israel well who stops over in Indonesia on the way it's not even on the way go all the way past down over there it's the weird the the E it's a country of 177,000 islands so jakata is the capital um I know it's the only what happens very simply is a story that's impossible to imag imagine so the guy who's the head of the Christian getting a license to build a church his son had a fear of going outdors his son watches me on YouTube this the guy's the head of all Christian churches Protestant Christian churches in Indonesia his son has a fear of the outdoors who his son is watching me on YouTube and he becomes a Ben no and then tells his father you got to watch this guy on YouTube and his father watches it and he becomes a b and he says we have all these Jews here in Indonesia who became Christians Rabbi he he contacts an organization in Indonesia which helps the Jewish not that many Jews in Indonesia I'm making up the number 10,000 I don't know that but it's a country's almost 20,000 watch my podcast there you go whatever it is okay so the he offers Christians and Jews who became Christians if you want to come to the on the papa Jaya which is the capital of Papa which is geographically the largest island like size of Alaska and study with Rabbi singer for a few days I'll pay for your flight I'll pay for your hotel and he said to me would you do it the organization said would you do it I said I just won the lottery I'm going to go to a place where hasn't had a r since World War II and have hundreds and hundreds of Jews who became Christians for reasons that are beyond the scope of this conversation and I can help them and at the end of a few days they they took a vote and they voted they don't believe in Jesus and then they asked me could you stay on this Rabbi and I knew there were many many Jews in Indonesia is there any from infrastructure very little no there was nothing a minion koser we we had a minion the kosher food you can get except meat you can't but you can fly in from Singapore Singapore is only an hour and 20 minute flight from Jakarta you have um go for din Bangkok is 2 and a half hours away um you have Manila which is 2 and a half hours away you know but and you go to the supermarkets and they all all the you know every you find all stuff with the OU it's not not complicated you just had to bring you know every time I'd go to Singapore where I would lecture so I would fill up a suitcase with frozen meat and chick when they had prepared me of you know 50 pounds of it into a suitcase and it's an hour flight and I take it off and I would just hope when I'm entering Indonesia they don't ask me what's your new suitcase and sometimes they did and I had to explain to them that it's I'm on a special diet and that's why I have 30 chickens in my suitcase but and believe it or not I said it's what is the special diet you're on so I would say to them it's like halus it's like Halal but for Jews it's called and I had guys who go on Wikipedia oh Halal for Jews that's what I would say because it's a Muslim country it's the largest Muslim country in the world so I say it's Hal of Jews and they Mish respected it it's the only country I ever lived in where I never experienced anti-semitism and on the contrary they really respected me they treated me really like royalty and when I said to them this is Hal for Jews they they respected it was not a problem how long were you there five years to the day I I years Indonesia to the day that it just it was coincidence but it happens to me that I left on May 2 25st um 5 and A2 years ago or 6 years ago whatever that is so why'd you leave oh so what happened was is I debated a Christian here in Israel at the end of 2018 I debated a Christian to King Solomon Hotel so you were there like recently wasn't that long ago right right right that's I came I made aliia in 2019 the point was when I did a debate at in the King Solomon Hotel the debate is on YouTube right there were maybe a thousand people in the audience and after the debate many people came over to me with their friends in toes saying my friends a Christian help them out and I realized I I knew there was a big problem here in Israel so like I just didn't know it was stage four and for those who don't know there is no stage five so I I realized that whoa I don't think I'm getting any more Jews in the church out of the church in Indonesia anyone who is going to get out is out as far as I could see and here in Israel it's a nightmare it's a completely unique nightmare so it was very clear to me at that stage so that debate was in November 2018 and when I went back I realized that I had to be here in her TR and it happened to be that I had to sign a new lease if I was going to stay another year and I told the owner of the place that we had I said this is going to be the last year and that was it and anyone take your place what no so when you told them you were leaving there are there are Ben Noah groups there there's a from Jews there there are many of them made Aliah no one took your a position there's no position even to be a r there it's it's not it's not I don't know exactly there is in Bali to some degree there is something going on you know the Muslims like me because they theologically hate Christianity the syrius Muslims can't stand Christianity theologically more than Judaism oh no no they love they admire Judaism when Muslims say we respect you what you believe they're not lying to you they're not they're not trying to um they they really when they're not trying to kill you no no no we need to segregate that Islam has a deep respect for Judaism they they really respect our religion the Quran says a lot of bad things about it's true it's all true but it depends which suras they are it's too compli to go into but there's certain suras that are written in the early part of Muhammad's life uh and those are the meccan seers that are not that which are not there are some sers that are written towards the end of his life when he's in Medina and they the Jews really are pushing me so there the point is the Quran is not nearly remotely as anti-semitic as the New Testament is everyone's got to get it through their head okay there's a lot of there are Hadith in particular that means sort of their oral tradition that have terribly anti-semitic statements that's true it's it really is there like you see a Jew Stone will scream out as a Jew hiy Mighty come kill him it's it's there but it's you can't compare it to the anti-semite ISM of the New Testament you can compare yes and as it's not the same yes does Truth at the end as you know you have any dealing with Muslims in Israel yes but it's all positive that means they they like me they they because they use they use my apologetics to defend Islam it's the same apologetics they know that Judaism worships one true God and will reject by car's atonement we hate the Trinity and remember Islam did go to war with the Christian world for seven years the longest war ever fought in human history was one that began in 709 710 and ended in 1492 and the Muslims ultimately lost that war but so Muslims have an aversion to Christianity and they respect the Ted the the belief of the Jew of the absolute Unity of God and and also that we we appeal to God's mercy to forgive our sins not for some guy dying for our sins that stupid nonsense disgusting so therefore that we are complete absolute monist that there's no God but the true God as it says in the chapter 9:6 there is no one else besides Hashem e Isaiah 46:9 there's nothing else there's one and there's nothing else this very critical because why is one God so important why so I get is it a number issue if there's one God it tells us about his character because if there's one God one God Alone why did he need this world therefore he must have created this world out of an act of love he didn't need this world now now that the world's people ask me kha but God takes pleasure and he's happy because once he created us in His image so now we now we have partnership with God and he really is invested in us but before the world was created it was him alone there was nothing so therefore his Oneness tells us about his character that he's complete love and the whole world was created out a complete act of kindness and therefore ah that kind of a god I want to have a c with and to actually have the vacas with not just to worship him and to be revolted by Adry but to actually have the vacas with Hashem is one of 633 Commandments now I'll tell you the one thing we didn't do what's that because when I told people uh that you were going to be on the show they said well he's going to tell us what to respond when a missionary speaks to us that's the only thing we didn't do on this show we talked about a lot of cont the only thing is listen to the question so the wait the question should be though though if a person wants to arm themselves if they're faced with a missionary which of your videos should they listen to It's a mistake you have to know your stuff and it's a gar and Sanhedrin these cards if the missionary says this see those cards it can't don't everyone has to stop you have to know what you're doing it's just like if you didn't go fight in a war you had the guy an M16 you get kill killed in a second you don't you don't know you're not allowed to do that you can't you have to know how to answer an opers you have to understand it and if not do not talk to missionaries you don't know what you're doing if you don't know what you're doing and you're from Jew think say I spoke to a rabbi because every what Jew is a rabbi suddenly and the rabbi couldn't have do not engage unless you know if you study the material I've made it easy for people to access and you know your stuff so then you could talk do not engage people don't do anything I mean I wouldn't go on atheist channels which I do and I'm challenged by atheist on television on my YouTube channel but you have to know what the arguments are you can't go into it and figure it out with someone you have to would you confronted you got to be able to say something I can just say to you we have a problem we started off this interview by saying there is a problem that we have rais a generation that's largely unfamiliar with the What's called the L prophets which is a misnomer we we to call them n is only 500 years old it's incorrect but in any case we we came to use that term but it's very if you don't know tanak and you're going to answer a missionary you you're going to be very in a lot of trouble very very quickly because they're going to P pull a PK and you have no idea and some of these P are easy you know Zechariah 12 is the only chapter in the book of Zechariah it's very easy to understand Zachariah is the only book to which Rashi wrote a hakum an introduction to I've everything he wrote he only wrote a hak an introduction to the book of zakar and he says I don't a don't have a m a tradition for Zaria and therefore I'm going to explain to you based on the best of my understanding how humble he was and he said you should know that it's a a book that's filled with stumo it's filled with hidden things because Zar opens with eight Visions it's not very hard to understand but you have to understand what's going on what is Yeshua being brought up in front by Satan in front of God you know you know this well what's going on here with all the Manas and all this thing there visions that are complicated it's not easy book but there's one chapter and that's the M chapter that's the end of the Zechariah 12 the 12th chapter is very easy to understand from beginning to end bing bang and that's all mhia and the order it's going to happen all that there m all of that the mean the tremendous I shouldn't use that term the trauma the last moment of trauma that so the Jews have to return to the land land of Israel before the Messiah comes contrary to what you hear in May the has to be a Jewish State before the Messiah comes the nation must be liberated before mhia comes then Nations come to war against the Jews over be on that I will destroy all the nation that come against Jim and then we have the trauma that he beat but people are going to get killed at the very very end it's going to be a horrible event and people are going to mourn of it's be a national event that people are going to start mourning interesting it says that men and women will mourn apart says says that's you see you see if in a time of a in time of mourning men and women can't sit together says it turns out what was going on right before October 7th was issue in Tel it's mindblowing and the only now really goes back but said the source and the in says when is this going to happen when is this gonna occur it's gonna happen on and the says therefore the ha that we recite on sukus shabas sukus is Ezekiel 3839 which is the only chapters on gagu that the word gug comes from Ezekiel 38 it's mindblowing so when I say to them October 7th was that there has to create a Unity among the Jewish because we're fighting each other over idiotic things fighting each other we need this unity and we live by our blood this is all there and that's what's happening right now so people that's how you can have anti-zionist religious Jews because they do not know na you don't know how come this RAB it don't work that way when it comes to mesiah you have to have Nim I don't care how big the rabbi is that to be openly ask the question why did we need three in the Persian Empire than building the second why so the gor says the reason why is that you you could because because you could M could come then but what happened because the Jews didn't they didn't come back from bille so therefore didn't but you could have had a base of English and if you going to build the base Min you can't build the base without so therefore it doesn't matter what any Rabbi says it only only matters what the Novi says they have to have noi without noi you can't move that's all so I would just ask I I this was my experience I was at a I was at a a program doesn't matter where and what but these three Jewish girls with their Catholic friend comes over to me and she they say she wants to ask you a question and she says why doesn't why don't Jews believe in Jesus and I said don't ask me this question don't ask me this question you're a nice Catholic girl go to church you know no no no I really want to know I I said you really don't want to know just trust me keep a happy life you're in high school you know so a friend Jewish friend said no no we want to know too so I I I have none of the experience that you have but you know in a place so I said God says I'm always going to be your God you'll always be my people if you go to the farest places I'll bring you back no matter how bad you are I'll bring you back no matter what you do I'll bring you back I will never break this Covenant ever ever and if somebody comes along and shows you signs and wonders and tells you to break the Covenant kill him now that was a really poor thing to write if he was planning on sending his only son with another message he should have said stand by for further announcements you know or you know put an expiration date but why would you say if someone comes and tries to change this that you should kill him she said thank you very much and uh her friends told me in the morning she was up all night crying she said the priest said no Jew can answer this question so that's all I got how's it how does it play in Poria you know what I would do is I would say what does tanak say about does sense what I yeah it does it does you're not impressed at all see the lack of impression re is that that tanak is very clear par a Deuteronomy 133 that in fact if a prophet a dream dream comes shows you signs and wonders but then he says follow God your father didn't know you keep the mitah he said do not listen to prophet of dream dreams and the t is saying that the guy Mish is doing Miracles and telling the future it still sounds like Jesus no no no no and then but then the K is so God says don't follow him I didn't send him but then the question so why did you let him do Miracles that's the next POS he says I'm only testing you to see if you love me I people going this is weird what do you mean testing like what God nothing better do his life there's there's a very big problem in the ancient world we our n our leaders were performing misus right Ian excuse me Miracles so Miracles going on Bas of English the first Bas of English there was a fire in the shape of a lion that was there all the time okay so the problem was we needed Free Will so because the Jews the N were performing Miracles like Alish Andi if the non-jews those who were could not perform Miracle we would lose our so at a time when the Jews are doing Miracles that means then the Pagan Idols idolators had to be doing Miracles too because you would have no free will now what happens we're not going to go into it theal pray to God to end the T what happens then is God has to dial down the kadus and the Tom at the same time because if he would only dial down the desire I deserve but didn't dial down that's what we needed to sit after that we need to sit her before that because now we're not and so n had to come to an end then why did the really have to come to an end because what was happening is we were losing the signal in fact Zari is not speaking to God really Angels always speak to Zar so by time we get to that lasta the last last Prophets The Signal was coming Daniel was speaking to to Angels right right how come Moses Wasing Daniel because this is the end end end so the signals going down the great assembly had said we need to end this so ifem turns down the TAA this lust for which we can't even understand he also has to tile down the kadha why because there else there'll be no Free Will and before you I place life n good evil Deuteronomy 30 so therefore because today the idol worshippers can't do Miracles so we don't do Miracles either ah it's a miracle but there's a way out the Jews have the best pilots in the world the best f-16s in the world and the best tanks in the world with such Geniuses just and it's a perm story The porm the Esther story is this book that lacks the name of God right and that that one book why because the story of puim could be attributed to Good Fortune and Serendipity it happens to be that would not be the first or the last king in history that killed his own wife Many Many Kings had a habit they killed his own wife you could a queen couldn't get a life insurance policy it just happens to be I'm sure that Esther was a knockout I'm sure she was absolutely gorgeous and M was a m he had to speak many languages he can have interpreters in in azdin so he happen to be at the right place at the right time with they pling of assassination he overhears it and he that means the whole story could be attributed to Good Luck sometimes you throw a penny up enough times eventually it'll come up ah heads enough times you get lucky people go on on thing the whole thing was K ke unlike M where we had a a a mountain over our head except here you'll be dead here we really had a way out and said this was all just we got lucky so Hashem is really hiding behind all the characters in this event and that's why tells that when M comes what are Jews going to be studying only the five books of Moses and safe for Esther what's going on now we understand cuz the G is going to happen in Esther Way meaning we could attribute all the things that we say is M Miracle but we can say well they have anti-missile missile systems the Jews are smart they go to whitesman intitute and the go who attacks are too fizzy eating Falafel with turbin on their heads so the Jews who are smart be the GU God has nothing to do there's a way out there's an escape atch because if there no Escape atch then you can't say I love you you only I love you only is pregnant with meaning if I have the opportunity the real opportunity to say I hate you and reject you so that's why the Christians today are not doing real Miracles all the stuff you see is all chicanery and the Miracles that are happening to us you are really can be explained through Serendipity we got lucky the only thing is eventually when the you know if someone would go into a casino and throw Dice and it just keeps on coming up you know to eventually they'll say there's something wrong with the dice and that's what the Jews are obviously the deck is loaded you know but you got to figure out but there's a way out I'm giving you a way out if that's why people say why doesn't God just come to me why does an angel appear to me that'll be the worst thing you lose your right you lose in the second that'll be a nightmare unless the G were having Angels running around then it's not cuz everybody's doing it but now they're not so we're not follow it has to be balanced 21% I oxygen 78% nitrogen and 1% Trace gases a perfect mixture so that both plants and humans and and gorillas could all live happily together it's a perfect system toia I know you have another interview and I cannot thank you enough for giving us all this time I'm going to end with one last question when did you lose youra my you never slip you always say Isaiah Jeremiah zaharia you have it all down like it just rattles off instantly you never want sing you went to the mirr how is it that you can't that you managed to ex excise from your vocabulary all of the all the you knowa terms that from people use because I'm talking to people who wouldn't understand it you know I'm talking to people it is yeah but it's amazing cuz I I go back and forth you know right so it happens to me like I gave a share in Muny this past year here to a very from Community it was on I think July 4th I think was it July 4th whatever it was a big American holiday by time in July 4th so they you know they don't want to they so they so the place was packed with in mon in forche and it was very gmak for me to speak but I was using the Yeshiva language with them wow you could go back and forth yeah of course that's my home that's always home you know you know and you know Leviticus you know so I I'm doing this for long long time but it's always Gish it's always you know I'm talking to you from we in a from part of isim you know we're not sitting in Cairo having a conversation so we we're talking and we're not in London no you didn't slip once I don't I'm not a slippery man W it cool k no slipping alow all right unbelievable ladies and gentlemen uh this uh uh this uh this finishes this uh introductory podcast because we have to have every singer back again to go into more detail but this is at least is a fine introduction to those of you who have never heard of him go back onto your rock now and then I'll introduce you uh you know we'll talk about Rebel yosu rinberg uh if you haven't heard about them either in any event um that's it for this week if you want to find out more about the show you can go to my website row.com and you can uh you can send an email sign up for one of our online shm and if you want to get in 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