How the Alter Rebbe Revolutionized Our Understanding of the Physical World

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So we're up to we're up to page B in the contressi uh page B the last column the the paragraph starts you see so we learned the first two we started the this mimer that the rebba said 60 years ago Bosani 5722 or 1962 onat and the focus of this mimer this year which is based on the 12th chapter of the is the words of the words to explain the iter the treasure the divine treasure the secret hidden treasure that's never used for anything even for a regular war a territorial war you don't squander these treasures but nonetheless there comes a moment in history when all the treasures are given and they're given to the foot soldiers and to explain what that is in the niml by Hashem he explains he starts explaining what ciphers what was the point of the beginning of so we learned at length in the last year number two which was very fundamental concept to understand this mimer and fundamental to this the difference of and she yeah she is always a condensed targeted form of communication which is tailor made to the recipient and it's one in which the mashp the word shea is connected to the word mashia actually is consumed by the communication and it is one that he gives over to the macabul something substantial that goes into re the recipient and it becomes an independent self-contained thing. So even though it originates in the mashpa but it doesn't capture the essence the core of that which it comes from because its entire purpose is on the contrary to be suitable to the recipient as we explained at length that's what shea is in contrast you have the concept of which means light and the way he introduced it was by explaining the which in kabala whenever you Both opinions are true. Even in when you say it's even deeper. It's just different opinions emphasize different different aspects and from different angles and different dimensions. You have this view, you have that view. So even though it says mus doesn't mean it's like an absolute conflict, you know, where it's just a paradox that can't that can't connect. It just means it's two different angles, two different perspectives and they have to be brought together like which very often in his does that the convergence for example already in the second chapter of he makes reconciliation between the and usually kabala and philosophy were two different streams they didn't meet they were seen as very different and very opposite right the second chapter quotes and it works even in I'm just giving one example but this is frequent in so here too there was a big argument what does mean who is referring to the raho said the only one you could say about is Hashem himself who was a disciple of the ramach argues and he says no about Hashem himself you should use the words not he doesn't have a beginning not he doesn't have an end create creations can also be if Hashem wants something should be eternal it could be eternal doesn't have to have an end doesn't have to be limited to thousand years 2,000 years 90 years 5,000 years it could be oh that's something. I can be endless. I can be limitless. But I have a beginning. I have a source. Hashem. Hashem created me. So if you really want to bring out Hashem in words say and therefore of Italy that is not referring to the of rather it's something that ultimately emanates from him. It comes from him. He calls it rats. He calls it casser. He calls it. This is in my in Cabala. This is a very very very a very big sug here reconciles the two based on the Arizal already reconciles it explains and the introduces is how you have to understand and that was the main point that we brought out that what is he uses the mushel of light what's the of light of light is that it's not the source is being communicated to somebody else in a way that is custom made to the recipient and therefore a particle or a piece of it is brought to the other world. The concept of is that the source is communicated. The source is transmitted just like in physical when you have the light of the sun or you have the light of the moon or you have the light of the candle. What is light? That's a very difficult question to answer. It's a difficult question to answer because on one hand light is so real. It lets us see everything. But what is light? And the answer is light in its core. The alterb says is that which tells you that my existence is defined by the fact that I don't have an existence. My existence is here to show the source. That's what light is. Light allows me to see, to perceive, to experience, so to speak, that which the light is coming from, whether it's the sun or whatever the source of light is. What is light itself? It doesn't have a substance. It's egoless. And is egoless. And and that's true in science, in physics. And because of that, light is full of paradoxes. The speed of light is insane. It's 186,000 m per second. Light is a particle. Light is a wave. Light is filled with paradoxes that are not logical because since light is not defined. So therefore it could become a transmitter of the source and it transmits everything that's in the source. It communicates it. It expresses that which is the source. In other words, shea means I'm giving over something and you go away with something and it becomes yours. On one hand is not is nothingness. That's what it is is. Yeah. So if it's nothingness, so don't call it. It doesn't just say it's nothingness. But that's not what is not just nothingness. Is that Hashem allowed that the source should be able to be seen. So when there's a room with light, what does light do? Light doesn't say look at me. There's a chair. There's a table. Oh, by the way, there's also light. Light, what does light? Light just says there's a source. Look at the source. See the wall. See the sun. See the moon. See everything else in the room. See everything else but me. So light is meala the mccer. That's what is. Yeah. And in communication there's two ways of communicating. One is you're communicating shea and one is you're not condensing yourself to the mabel. It's just the muker is being revealed as is undiluted at all. There's no compromises. There's no mitigating it. There's no restrictions in it. There's no condensing it. There's no filters. It's the source as is being revealed. That's in its pristine level. That's more or less a summation of what we spoke about with more with more explanations. If you didn't hear it, it's to hear it because it's a deep concept. It's not uh it's not it's not so simple. You have to you have to digest it and and think about it. It was a good summary. Uh it was a good summary. Okay. the language which you described not the language so fast so suggested last week at the end of the sh that's the difference between electricity and light electricity that travels through cables is affected by the friction and by the tension and by the reaction and therefore as it travels it's diminished it's contracted where O is what do you call it? Frictionless conductor. Okay, this is an electrician and a light expert. I just realized when you make an event, you hire somebody for the lights, right? What's his expertise? His expertise is just to make sure that when the people see the speaker or see the or see the kala it should be able to see right that's the it's not something else it's whatever is it should be able to be seen in the most wholesome way shouldn't be too dark it shouldn't be too light shouldn't be that's the of on every level even in the most in the most simple sense in other words of is to point to somebody else there's light I could see you. I could see him. I could see her. I could see the source. That's the function of how does do that because the mitas of is that it doesn't have a mitas and that's the mitas of it. So if there wouldn't be a concept of light in there would everything would be but nothing would be perceived. It would be visav itself. I wouldn't be able to experience you. I wouldn't be able to perceive you. We don't distinguish between the two. I come into a room, you see me. You don't say, "Oh, he came into the room. Oh, I also see him." We don't see it as two separate things, but but it's really not the same thing. There's you. There's your and there's the fact that the could be seen. That's the of Soid is not a new thing is not the becoming something else, not morphing into it's that the should be able to be seen on one hand. It's not the essence. It's not that. In fact, it's very very remote from the essence because the essence should be seen. And we know if you don't have the right kale, you won't be able to see it. I told you most of the universe is invisible. Everything has light. Everything has but I don't see it. I don't have the caum. My my my retina, my eyes don't register that it exists. Most of the universe is invisible. We think we see the world, right? What we don't see is infinitely more than what we see. You can't even compare. 99.999% you see the world we don't you don't see anything you see based on that we have a world but it works because as long as there's a consensus we all think we see the world it works right just like we all think that this cup is blue and this is white and this carpet is red and this wall is brown if your eye would have a little bit of a different kale would be able to register different frequencies you would see different colors it's all the way we define it that's already the way the goes through different based on the kum. So this is already that is impacted by the vessels. So you you you have to you have to have the you have to have the kali for because in itself as we will see there's a lot a lot of madreas in but in its most pristine level the original what is it it's that the should be able to be misguished be able to receive as what as is. So on one hand it's completely not that it's not the essence it's that the essence is seeing on the other hand it's it's nothing else the whole the whole of is what's the it has no inion I have no agenda I have no in what is my inion is I have no in that is my inion and because of that the allows itself to become a conduit for that if it would have an in right if it would point this way if it would have an ego so it's Ed the way the is articulated in a particular shaf but because the of the mits of is that it has no mits that's the that's the real of so it transmits it transports every of the here is one step deeper that even that which can't go into because can't really be seen here's the here's the touch. Here's where the here's where it answers the big question of the ultimate relationship between ultimate truth and the world. Which one do you compromise on? Right? Do you say no identity? No identity. So our identity dissolves in infinity. That's the ultimate that's one of Hashem. Or the opposite ultimately let Hashem be who he is and we can't go there. We don't want to give up identity. So will only connect to and this question you understand this question I'm asking this question is the source of almost every I'm talking about realm rejecting the world embracing the world yes individuality no individuality gashm is no what it All boils down to the either you say give up on identity because it's too problematic. It's too problematic to deal with people and deal with yourself, right? Ultimate truth is to be found when you dissolve into nothingness. The more nothingness, the better it is, right? So you may go all the way up, but you're left with no eye. No mitsas. Or you go the opposite. I want mitsus. I can't neglect what sees. I can't neglect the world. But then I have to say, okay, Hashem, I understand that we can't have a connection with the real thing. We'll connect to that which is already filtered. The great I shouldn't say the great emphasis of the was complete fusion. That's that there's really complete fusion. Complete complete. Not because there's no tensions. That's why you have to go through the to get to the you have to go through the because you don't appreciate the tension right if you don't learn the two you don't understand the right the real brings together the it doesn't ignore the so you have to understand the extremes and then you understand the that's why when you're having an argument with somebody it shouldn't upset you it's a for the next time you have an argument with your spouse present company is excluded But those who may be may have so people get it means the relationship is not good. No, no, no. Every argument is a to the that's how you have to look at it. If it's if it's if it's a that's not based on insecurity and and trauma because the is this is uh this is important material is not bad as long as it opens you up to the and without the you couldn't get to the Yeah, that's good for a flight between us. Yeah, if it's a war, then it's not good. It's not good for a war. They say a joke. You know the joke there was there was an English teacher. He once asked his students, he would teach them English. He said, "What's the difference between an engagement and a battle?" So one of the students says one is before the one is after the So if it's that level, yeah, that's a big problem. The kagdi is if you want to reach the hashishi, you first have to go to the kagdi. That's why the gammor doesn't get doesn't get upset at you never seeing gur somebody gets upset that there's an argument. If the gamarra would get upset that there's an argument, they could close shop immediately, right? The first Mishna is already a three-way argument. Like they don't even they don't even start a Mishna in peace. One Mishna don't argue. There's no such a thing. right away whenish we have to argue just wait it's like you don't get into an argument in the room right you wait till after not but I once heard from the he said but what's the last Mishna what's the end of the whole that's how ends so the argument the beginning It ends with shalom because it's the there's the so that's a big in everything it's it's an approach to life. Yeah. How is it possible to reach this that we said between people but the filter and the the amount of frequencies and the level where's that center point to reach because it's infinite. The amount of filters is infinite. the amount of frequencies is implemented. How do you find and obtain that middle point right? Excellent. So every object emits and really as we know today in physics we light is what allows us to get to know the universe. That's pa fact light. How do we know the universe? Any part of the it's through light. Especially when you're dealing with outer space where I don't have any mamushes. can't analyze it in any other way. How do they know what it is? Through light. They measure the light, the speed, the frequencies, the wavelengths which we discussed last week. And from that you push it and know the material that it's coming from. Because light is essentially what is it? It's just the being revealed being present. It's showing up. What's showing up? Not the whole of is it's I'm not I'm not showing up. My source is showing up. So who am I? Oh, you got the wrong the moment you start asking me who I am. You're you're not you're not with there's no identity crisis in because never decided it needs an identity. Right? If you need an identity, you can have an identity crisis. If you help somebody become identity crisis, but how do you help somebody become huh? A lot of trusting. A lot of trusting. So the real word for is so is so the word is everywhere in Alba says this and that's going to be the in the next in the next piece because of the of you see when you have the light of the sun the sun allows itself to be seen the moon allows itself to be seen a candle allows itself to be seen and the light bulb allows itself to be seen and allows us to have light. They call it the electromagnetic fields, electromagnetic waves that are emitted, the photons that are shot out and this gives us light. But when you're talking about the essence, the essence of all essence doesn't have a description. So the very musk of being seen is a because what is atmos is that I can't say what it is. You can't say that. Rebashab says expression you can't say it exists. You can't even say it doesn't exist and you can't even say it exists because even existence when we think existence we think of it in terms of existence right it has substance it has a definition. Existence right away could be something that doesn't exist. It can be something that doesn't exist. Something exists but atmos beyond isness. The word isness it is that's already that's already uh that's already aish that's already aish you can't even define it as isness. So how can how can or can can can can project or can reveal is how do you reveal the lack of isness? This was the vert that that the real is that because of the B of because of the B of because is completely egoless so to speak and substanceless. So therefore has the capacity to project or I don't know project to reveal to reveal even that in the core in the source which by definition can't be seen why what's what's the havana in [Music] Because since the whole mitsus of the whole mitsus of is that its mitsus is not a mitz. So therefore it has the capacity not to get stuck even in the mitsus of soy can point to the truth of its source. Even that truth that transcends being seen through that's what he's going to explain. Now this is very dastistic. This is this is very abstract. What does this mean and what does it mean practically? So we'll see question answer. Okay good. So you're normal. So you're normal. Let's see inside. It will become clearer. You want to ask something? Okay. [Music] We'll explain this in That's why he said in the previous paragraph it is a why is a on one hand you say there's nothing to it he says meaning it's it's just a revelation there's no substance there there's no essence there on the other hand because of that in a way is you're giving me something right what are you selling I I don't have anything to sell. There's nothing there. When the sun sets, the is gone. What happened to you? Even when the teacher stops the finishes the class, if he's a good teacher, it stays with the students. They can even plagiarize it. They can make it their own. In fact, that's the right. You want to create leaders, people who who own it. That's the beauty of like I thought that would give a mush of reflection in the mirror. You stand in front of a mirror. Yeah. What's in the mirror? Oh wow. You're there. The moment you walk away, it's gone. What happened? Was such a nice, handsome, tall, mature guy, beautiful guy. The answer is there was nothing there. It was a reflection of you. There was nothing there. The moment you're there, as you're there, it's there. The moment you're not there, So on one hand what is that reflect what is it? It's nothing because it's nothing. It has everything because it's nothing. It has everything. There was a his name was Kessleman. So he was exiled to Siberia and uh so he went fab and he said he had twins. When he was exiled to Siberia, his wife gave birth to twins. One of them just passed away. It was two castlemen brothers in Kabad. One was killed in a car accident in the 80s. Two brother Velville Castleman and his brother. One passed away recently. HH Sha. Yeah. So they were I think born in Pesaya 1927 if I'm not mistaken. He was in Siberia. Huh? They say when the fab came back came out of jail. Yeah. On his way to Krama. It's one of the first things he asked how the twins are. Just came out of jail. So uh he was he was in Siberia and he had twins. So uh so they sent him a picture. They sent him a picture of the twins and it was a big simka for him. Three years later there was an upsh. So his wife cut some of the hair and she sent some here to Siberia. And he said that when he got to here, there was something so moving that even the picture didn't capture. Why? Because the picture is everything, but there's nothing there. How much do I have from you when I'm looking at your picture? You don't even know I'm looking at your picture. The here, you also don't know that I'm touching your hair here. But on the other hand, what what do you know about the person from here? That's Sheffa. She is a mus strand of it. So it's something real. Stays with you. Stays with you. The the the reflection in the mirror has everything. But the reason it has everything is because it has nothing. It's just your reflection. Because it's just your reflection. It's identityless. So there's no blockage. Because there's no blockage. So it could point it's it can point to everything in the that's the reason in this world has all the properties it has is because in mus it's obviously physical light is not the same like it's after myriads and endless levels but the fact that in this world is so insane and so strange and so amazing it's because in its it reflects So is it's a whole different mas than everything else. It doesn't lend itself to the regular rules of matter and everything eludes everybody but especially eludes uh eludes uh the the the physicists. So now let's see let's see the next step. Of course, a picture is not a good dogma because a picture is a picture. But a picture does bring out you look at a picture, right? You see everything and you see it accurately. But what is it? How much of the person is here? It's it's a good dma like just a mirror. These are good examples in a way. You have everything but it's just there's nothing here because there's nothing in therefore can have everything. who the of is so much it's means it's like the it's means it's almost like uh I don't want to say reflection because he had a you you made a protest last week with reflection which is good because reflection just means a reflection and that's not what it is allows there to be a reflection But uh itself but is like a replica of the huh is what what what is in the comes out in the in a revealed way. It brings the mer into a place where the moyer was not seeing where the mayer was not perceived. That's what light does. That's what light does always. It brings the mer into a new domain where the moyer was not present or the was not seeing. It could be present but not seen. That's what does. Okay. So now we get to the to to the to the is so deeply is so deep that through there could be creation. That's the statement. This is going to be explained. We come now to that famous letter of it begins with the words. Those of you who remember you know the longest and hardest chapter in Tanya is this 20th chapter. When did write this? You know when wrote this again wrote this a few days before his which was this week 1812 so mish in his last days he sat down and he penned the deepest m of it's certainly the most complicated m I can't say the deepest to say the deepest you have to you have to have a havana in that which is above my pay grade certainly but But certainly one of the most profound of the alterb it's a letter it's printed and in this mime the alterba revolutionized the concept of and as a result of that he revolutionized the whole world and as a result of that he revolutionized how we perceive the body and how we perceive the physical the material and when did he do this mish the last days before and this is going to bring out This is going to be a little bit difficult words, but he's going to explain the the creation of the world something from nothing comes from the from the containers of the tense just to translate what it means. We're not now getting into we'll just translate. Everything begins with but itself goes through so many processes. The oid I was describing was oid in its original. But then there's as it so to speak evolves and devolves. There's the pre symptom. There's the preimpum the way it has endless spheros. It's going to be next. There's the post symptom. There's the way it's at. There's the way it comes into there's the way it assumes 10 features called 10us that's already that has a picture so to speak right and that's the that comes into a vessel to a container what's a container container is something that captures the just like when earth comes to my eyes is a kali this is a kali and without the kali I have no access to the I it's Very nice. This I don't know about it. I can't see it. I don't know it. I don't register it. And that's why if there's an object that emits frequencies of and wavelengths of that my brain simply doesn't know what to do with cuz my brain also has its limits. Right. This is a 7 oz cup. It can deal with seven ounces of coffee. You could go to the Niagara Falls with this cup. Yeah. It's not I'm not a kay for it. You have to have the kayali. So spheris you have kaim each kali contains the if it contains it it limit it limits it it shrinks it it condenses it that's where the concept of comes in everything is containers says that the bri is from the malubish in these kum of tens is malubish is manifested the kav is a line a line where does the word come from again I'm just referencing here the result teaches that in there was aum in the we speaking about there was aum by the way in parenthesis I think I mentioned it last year one of the big basis of that liked so much if I could say that is because says there was a and that says inmos they can't beatum the word can't apply to atmos because the wordum which means to condense to limit to shrink to withdraw can only apply to something that can be revealed or concealed not. So the symptom wasn't what says it was the says it was the and even there says it wasn't it wasn't a real symptom it's a perceived and all all of this ties in together I know there's a lot of missing pieces and postsum theel says hashem created an empty space where the is not present and then he brings in a k a cal of this into the empty space and this k goes Caleb of and that's where the Bria comes from the and continues and here he uses the word which goes into the caum of tens which creates the world is it captures it transmits the what's the source Hashem who what is the the essence and the core of Hashem His comes from himself. His mitis comes from his own atmos. Those are key words. My mit is doesn't come from me. comes from my mommy from my tati and their mitsas comes from their mommy and tati. There's nothing that mits nothing. Not your existence and not your conditioning. Everything has an antecedent. The apple tree comes from the seed and the seed comes from an apple and the apple comes from a seed and the seed comes from an apple. Whether you're going to the chicken or the egg, there's going to be an antecedent. And you go back and back and back and back and back and back to the prebiotic soup, but there's going to be an anticedant. It's called a mucker, a source. And there's a reason for it says that's we know a thing can't create itself. If you weren't here, so how did you create yourself? Right? And if you were here, so where did that here come from? Where did that come from? You say the thing created itself. What do you mean it created itself? If it was here, it didn't have to create itself. So the question is, who created it? And how did that come? And if it had to create itself cuz it wasn't here, exactly how can you create yourself when the do you has to be created? So everything has a source, a reason, something to justify it. But there's one thing that you say atmos the essence it's not time it's not matter it's not space not spiritual not physical so that doesn't have a bation that doesn't have a beginning this used to be a big argument in science because Aristotle and other always said that God was always and the universe was always hashem is a kadma the universe is a kadma suddenly the 1920s they shifted to the concept of a big bang a big bang means the there was a beginning So it was still debated in the 1960s the scientists heard the sounds of the big bang they detected they detected the kilus. So today it's muskum kamat on everybody that beracious is a scientific fact. What caused the beginning? Oh this of course they're arguing but that there's a beracatious you can't argue anymore. There's a beginning. There's a beginning of a process you call the emergence of the from the big bang. Now the question is what what caused the big bang? Suddenly 15.3 billion years ago the prebiotic chull and got exhausted and said you know what I'm in the mood of exploding. Say there was too much pressure. How long was that pressure going on? Infinitely. And 15.3 billion years I decided that's it. It's too much. How long can you live with pressure? It exploded. And here we are, guys. Sata. Your ears, your nose, your DNA. Boom. Thank God for trauma, right? The big bang was traumatized. But the is that the words he's not an means he's not a result an offspring of an antecedent of a source of an that precedes him therefore and therefore only he has the capacity and the power to create something from absolutely from absolute nothingness. is and this that it creates doesn't have an doesn't have a source. What's the saying here? This is from the last things he wrote maybe the last. So explains the creation of something that doesn't feel that it has a source can only come from something that doesn't have a source. of because if would come from something that does have a source then that which is created would reflect that property. It would always be consciously aware that it's coming from somewhere because it comes from something that comes from somewhere. So it would have that property that sense I come from somewhere. But since we see by here by everything down here in our world that nobody feels that they have any cause, nobody feels that they have any sores. Nobody feels that they came from somewhere. Nobody feels that they have to justify anybody, anything. I don't have to justify anybody. And the Reb says, now he goes deeper. There are those creatures that want to remain blind. Their bias or whatever it is, they want to remain blind. Fine. But he says, "Let's go deep. Even those created beings that understand." And he says they understand it absolutely that what that it's obvious that they come from somewhere. They know they have a cause. They know they have a source. That's all maybe intellectual. But what's felt? What do I feel in my gut? every created existence in this world. What is nirgish? What is my sensation? My bodily sensation. Not my cerebral philosophical understanding. Not my spiritual intuition. The the most tangible intuitive feeling experience. What's the intuitive experience of life? I don't have a source. We could we could argue. We could debate. We could discuss. Who made the first cell? How did the big bang happen? You already lost the plot. Vay, you could walk around this planet and be an avowed atheist and win a Nobel Prize. A sheke. So what? So what? Fak you could be called the real thinker. You're not biased. So even if intellectually somebody sees it so clearly, it's clear. He says but in herish the intuition of our world is I don't owe anything to anybody. Yeah, you don't feel this way. Even a mother and father, I don't think anybody here doubts. Even though we once had a teacher in school who once complimented us and says, "You weren't born, you were hatched." But even if you were hatched, there's still an egg. But I don't think anybody sitting on this table doubts that you have a mother, you have a father, right? But do you feel it? What do I mean feel it? Of course, you feel your mother. to feel your father. But intuitively when I think of my existence, do I right away mommy? Unless you have a horrible relationship with your mother, then right away you feel mommy. But that's because it's not a good relationship. If it's a good relationship, I'm on my own. If somebody who the moment they experience I, they experience their mother, they go to the therapist, right? What happened to you? So that's the key words. What's felt by us is that it's what does and mean. Why do we call the bria yesesh and something from nothing? It's a strange thing. Why is Hashem called nothing? Isn't that disrespectful? It's like you'll tell your mother, you know, I was created from nothing equals mother. That's not nice. She worked very hard. Yeah. I mean when I lost in I carried it through. Yeah. That this is the definition of that is a seemingly independent existence. Exactly. Is something from a nonh So he says what's it? So he says, "You mind making another coffee with power of power of milk. Why is it called?" So he says is called Hashem is not a mitus. What does that mean? He's not a mitas. He's not a What's it mean? He's not a mitus. If you don't understand, you think he's saying he doesn't exist. So here you see how you have to understand means it's not a reality says here we understand mitus what's mitus mitsus means what I call a reality mitus is what's a mitsus in our world what's mitsus when I'm a baby if I can touch it if I can feel it I can taste it I can smell it I can see it can hear it. The five it's a mitz. I'm not going to argue that this table is a mitas. It's a mitz. The older you get, the more sophisticated you get, you understand that mitsas can also relate to things that you don't touch with your hands, things that you understand, things you feel. Is love a mitz? Aad love is a mitsus. And you get a little older and then maybe you start using telescopes and microscopes and suddenly Mitsus goes beyond what you could have imagined. But as far as you go, higher and higher and higher, Mitsus ends where? That which I can be typhus, that which I can grasp with my eyes, with my telescopes, with my microscopes, even with my imagination. Is this tangible? tangible on some level, physical, spiritual ashikts or the Reb once said that for a real But it's Mitsus. Why is Hashem called iron? Because it's something that I call nothing. I call it Why do I call it nothing? Cuz in my existence, it's nothing. It It's nothing. So I call it nothing. Yes. My is a is completely intangible. It's not something that my vocabulary embraces, sees, agrees, experiences. Why? Because the definition of abria down here is I don't have a source. In other words, my source is nothing. It doesn't exist. The real reason for it is because it's nothingness. It's not nitfas in that mitz. It's not nitas. Just like we know today that the less you can see something probably the more it exists, right? We all know what you see is usually very very weak. If you want a good example, the corona virus corona virus exists I think. No, I know not everybody agrees. I'm not talking about mass. I'm talking about the corona virus itself. Nobody ever saw it till the 1800s till the 1890s. It didn't exist. It was the poisoning of the wells. It was the devil. Bacteria, fungus, atoms, cells, DNA molecules. These things exist. They don't only exist. They are existence. You deny DNA, you're denying yourself. Electrons, they exist, but we don't see them. Because we don't see them, they exist. In other words, their existence is is real because the eye doesn't see them because it's a much more it's a more profound existence. You go deeper and deeper and deeper. The ultimate existence is ion completely ion because we don't have any caum to be typhosit. So what's the bottom line? It's called because in my it's not a mitus. when taught this to us once. So he said he had his interesting examples. Maybe he says somewhere he says I didn't see he said the boy you have to build a suka. Yeah. So he says I don't know if you ever built a suka but he gave a marshall. He says you have a hammer with a nail. Yeah. Yeah. He says, "Yeah, how you going to get him to build a suka with more enthusiasm? By taking a hammer and hitting him or by explaining to him the mitzvah of by explaining to him. So why don't you do it to the nail? Tell the nail." In the exist shear, you know, the nail never got the memo. The nail understands one language. What's the language a nail understands? That's why when they used to think that we're nails, there was only one language. Today, the children are not nails. Or as somebody once said, right? When somebody sees the whole world as nails, there's only one instrument to use, a hammer. And when somebody only has in his tool chest a hammer, everything appears as a nail. Is the male right? Absolutely. From his perspective, he's right. In other words, your are never got the memo. So you'll tell the nail, "No, I learn with you. You don't exist. Your doesn't exist." In the world of the This was not my in the world of the nail, your brilliance is ayah. If you're talking to a brilliant man, the hammer is you're going to force me with a hammer. That's not how you a brilliant persuade me here. What's Yesesh is the hammer is garnished. So everything changes. You understand? So why do we call Hashem? Because in my herish in my herish I I I'm sorry I don't see you. I don't hear you. I don't detect or experience you. I could think about it. I could be my intuitively I exist. That's what exists. Hashem's existence. It's not a herish. It's a havana. Doesra have an existence. Huh? Does have an existence? You're jumping ahead of yourself. Auton. Here's the problem. I'm confused. We're not talking about now. We're talking about the I'm talking about me. You don't even feel it with your parents. You know it that you have parents. But it's not my intuitive experience of life that I have a creator that I come from somewhere that I owe something to somebody that I have to justify it. I could explain it. I could I can argue about it. But I can't make it your intuitive experience from the perspective of yesesh. Some people develop their spiritual sensitivity. Huh? Yeah. We'll soon see. What do you want to ask? We're not talking about now. We're not talking about earth idea about the question rabbi asked does or exist. So in the morning creates darkness but he forms light. Yeah. So there must be something there about that because very good bria is higher than so why is bria darkness and you know the meaning of that we put we we touch our by we touch is holier. I would think light is a little better than darkness. The answer is what makes init is because it's condensed so you can experience it. When you go to ber it's dark. You know why it's dark? Cuz it's iron. That's what darkness is. It's too high. When it's too high it's dark. It's like I'll say you gave a shear and you left me in the dark. Why? You didn't bring it down. If you would have brought it down a lower notch, you would have left me in the light. You understand? Can you just repeat that? Sorry. No problem. You don't have to be sorry at all. I'm happy to repeat it if I only would remember what I said. Huh? Can go back to the recording. By the way, AI, what they're trying to produce is AI. We love AI. Yeah. Machine that will be completely independent. Yes. That will be completely Yes. We're trying to create the same yesesh that God created in artificial intelligence. The problem is as much as we're trying to create, huh, it's trying to achieve it. It's trying to achieve it. I They're trying still without success and they're they're not they're not they're not acknowledging that it's impossible because the entire success of the of the artificial intelligence is ultimately what I put into it. But the drive is to get Yeah, that's the drive. Because we want to go on vacation forever. Okay. Why should we work? We want Msiah. Artificial intelligence is just to be able to facilitate what the Raum says at the end of there's going to be a time there will be no hunger, no war, no jealousy, no competitiveness. How is that going to happen? Artificial intelligence. You're going to want to order pizza shabas. I don't know that after mashia you're going to eat carbs but there's going to be healthy pizza and you're going to want to order it shabas. Yeah. You're not going to call a pizza shop with a person. You're going to call the artificial intelligence. You're not even going to call. You're going to think. You're going to think and the neurons in your brain are going to transmit a message to artificial intelligence. You not have to eat it. You won't even have to eat it. It'll go through your brains. But then who needs pizza mit Shabas if you're not going to eat it? Tell me. We could stick for the let lettuce if we're not eating it. Yeah. Just to refine what you said. Yeah. The point be consist I mean to be consistent is the ultimate creation is things which are not be able to be seen and felt like the cosmos and the darkness which is beyond our Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why everything is perfect because it's greater is greater. Yeah, but so but now don't lose the punchline. Here's the big question. Here's the big question. When I create something, I can create something that I have inside of me on some level. I can imbue into the computer. human intelligence, program it, and then the computer does it much faster than I do. But ultimately, it's a reflection. It's a continuum of the creator. I give you something that I have and I can give it to you. Something I don't have, I can't give you. Here's the great question Alterb raises in his last letter. Our world, our physical world has a unique dimension. It doesn't feel it has a creator. Nowhere else is there this experience. In all the higher worlds, in all the spiritual realities, what makes something spiritual? It points to God. That's spiritual. It points to oneness. It points to BL. It points to cosmic unity. It points to transcendence. What makes something physical? I I am I. I don't need anybody. I don't come from anywhere. Now, we could debate for 90 years. If there's a creative, but the fact that you have to debate it means what? You could be a respected atheist and win the Nobel Prize. Why? Because it's not like the air that we breathe. You can argue. It could be a foolish argument, but it's an argument. Where did that come from? Where did this property in the world come from? Why does no other world have it? Comes dur says obviously our world has something that was given to it from the one source that doesn't have a source. The higher worlds manifest and reflect the divine energy. Divine energy has a source, Hashem. So therefore, all the worlds experience their source because they come from something that has a source. So the creation reflects that which created it which has a source. So they also feel they have a source. But this world says alter our world our physical existence looks at the creator and calls it ay meaning sorry I never heard of you it's nothing cuz in my world it's not mitsus my source is not a mitz where did that come from where did this lie come from where did we get it from so everybody says this is what makes us so bad now says no this is it this is the this is the truth because this world comes from and doesn't have a source is I used to so beaved this property into the that we feel we don't have a source that feeling of complete autonomy detachment independence which is the worst thing about our world. The yesesh the yesesh that was madesh in the last few days of his life that this experience of autonomy is really rooted in the ultimate reality in the ultimate truth which is taka autonomous and ta independent and has no strings attached and is completely self-contained because its very existence comes from its the every what what was always the lowest suddenly became huh that's why you can be so corrupted. That's why you could be what? Corrupted. Where? Oh, you're saying that's why the corruption of this world can be so scary, right? Huh? The corruption could be so scary. You're saying because it has Yeah. And if you don't turn it around, if you don't if you if you so you do one of two things. Either the corruption I should say it differently if you don't live with real shame. So one of two things happens. Either you have to get rid of the yesesh because it's too dangerous. You hear? Either you get rid of the y, you get rid of that, you want to kill the we call literally you take a hammer, boom. Why? Because this is the source of everything. The visited camp. So on the canteen there was a sign money is the root of all evil. Leave your evil here. Yeah. So we make a sign. Yes is the root of all evil. Leave your evil here and run away. I think he was canteen manager. He told me the story. I think he said gave a smile and he said the root of all evil said because inad from the yesesh. We don't we don't get turned off from the yesesh. You don't have to run away. You have to be mala because it's one of two extremes. Either you have to destroy the yesesh because you're a shamayim or you're a dangerous man. Yeah. You're a dangerous man. This happens constantly. This is what's happening this week in Israel. That's the You have so much power. That's what you mean. Yeah. You have so much power. You have so much control. You become the corruption knows no bounds. And you don't have to justify it to anybody. And why is it you use the deepest in the world to destroy yourself? What's the tick? The real tick is you just have to be meala. That the real yes is atsmos. In other words, the deepest BL can only be found in the deepest yeses. Now that's big. The deepest B, the deepest B which is tomos is you find because the yesesh is not bottled to atmos. The yesesh is atmos and that's the deepest bit. This ble where I'm bottled to the deepest bit. I'm not bottled too. I am the h. May. Oh, we'll soon see where it comes. Is the savior is the savior. This I'm about to myself to you which is which is big. There's a different b I become you. That's much deeper. You understand? Because there h ah the mitsus itself you're not escaping the mitsus the y is not but tomos the yeses is the opposite of b the says me me that is atmos but you have to reveal it if not if not it's it's it's ser it's serious stuff strip away the yesesh to get to the yeah you need b to go back to the yesesh cuz if you don't if you don't have BL. That's why this is the last letter of why say it 40 years earlier in you never have this V in Tanya. You don't have this. You have Muzim to it. He gets close to it. But the V itself is the last letter that he wrote before his asba was leaving this world. His ultimate words of to the was I'm leaving you in a good world and with that he saved the day. I'm leaving you in a world where the ultimate happens. That's why there's an expression from the and the would say this constantly especially in the later years that the issa is the or sometimes he would say The miti the yeseshra is what we call the ego of the created being is the real he if it's what makes that's the that's why our world has this property of autonomy of independence of detachment why do we feel so detached why do I feel so self-contained because I come from the source that's takutonomous that's not dependent on anything and that property he put in not not in that you don't have an Mahaba you go to ganed and there's no yeses it's over the game is over is that the point of yesterday's yeah that is invelt that's what you mean You go out of the world in the world. You don't have to escape the world. Grandchild, his granddaughter married the grandson of in the year tok 1807. Shabas, the wedding was Friday. So the was there the was there they had to go to the the door to go to outside was narrow so only one person could walk through was walking through. So turned to and he says you go first. I think he was older than Alanba. So he said, "No, no, you go first." Alterba said, "You and they got into an argument. You know who goes first?" And everyone came up with the reason why he should go first. At some point says, "Let's go through the wall." And when he said it, he meant it. responded we don't go through the wall the door has to expand there's another said it's the same was saying we don't have to walk through doors we can walk through walls we have to walk through doors why do walls exist because you think they exist right it's true way true the only reason walls exist is because you think they exist I promise you learn physics you'll see that walls and doors walls exist because you think they if you don't think they exist can't think they exist right if you they don't exist in other words it's all the way reality is condensed in a particular way the wall is a wall not because he didn't know the because We walk through doors. We don't walk through walls. itself is that's a whole different vert that's the freedman shared a story at the end of the week the the week the weekend f Thursday Friday shabas Sunday Monday was a you had the there and everybody was in his full glory so there's a lot of my we have the my look at is from that from that pushed a lot of said was in his full glory finished one of the he finished the it's not printed on because it was like but it was written by he finished end of the alien is a way to say it's a very deep story on the way home had a he was a coach he was around for like 30 years loved he loved him like a brother loved sobba turned to the almost like you know and he says you know it's like a father says what do he say about my kid what do you say you He tells his balagah, a simple Jew, but he got it. You know, he hung around 30 years. So she says of my what do he say about my says I am poin is wonders of wonders like you there's no so when we were in what did he mean so I don't know if I could analyze alter But what I think he meant was he was he was but was it says from is ble is the from is infinity is finitness. So what's arba? Abba is a fusion between blev and was you saw was something else is but but he says is not just somebody who's a reb is somebody who takes responsibility for the world takes responsibility for the world ab is the person who's responsible for history so so it's the of everything the highest the lowest Okay, we're getting carried away here in the mic. But what's the how did I get into all of this with the huh? Oh, the door. The door. So is where does the yeshas come from? The yesesh comes from atsmos. In the higher worlds, everything comes from atsmos. But in the higher worlds, atmos is not embodied in the creation. In in here, atmos is embodied in myas. It's embodied in my yeseshas. Oh wow. Okay. A few minutes. Now the ramifications of this are very very profound. I'm going to give you just one aspect of it in a suga that's very contemporary. I'm going to show you the ramifications and then I want to learn the last piece that brings it together. We all know that the isoid of a healthy life of a healthy life is attachment. In fact, today there's something very well known called attachment disorder. It's a disorder. You did not have healthy attachment in your formative years from with your primary caretaker. And that affects a person's whole life. Attachment means that when you were developing, you felt connected, you were safe, you felt safe, you felt secure, you felt seen, you felt soothed. The more attached you felt, the more detached you could become. The only way they could be is if he was once because if you never felt attachment, you're like insecure in this world. You don't know who you are. So it's very hard to trust people. So you have very serious attachment issues. You'll notice that people who have difficulties with attachment and that's very prevalent today. It's because there's an attachment disorder. I never had that security of vas. They never used to think like this in the secular world. used to think kids don't kiss them. Don't show them love. They wouldn't let parents stay in hospitals. Make them a man. Make him a man. Make him a man. If you want him to be a man, he has to first feel how much how much connection there is. This is very fundamental that always spoke about just a a simple example. Your 2-year-old, your three-year-old is playing with Lego tonight. You ran away, but he's playing with the Lego in the in the family room. It's my so you can have a family room. So he's playing with Lego and mommy is in the kitchen cutting a tomato and every 10 minutes yank mutel looks up and sees mommy is cutting tomato and avocado and he goes right back to the Lego and he's happy. Then mommy has an appointment she forgot and the appointment is just 20 minutes. It's across the street by the mak. So she thinks, right? Well, not mommy. Tati, he'll run out for 20 minutes. He'll come back. Mommy doesn't do that. Hopefully Tatiosa doesn't. But at least in the Marshall. And the next time Yanka picks up his eyes, Villa picks up her eyes and mommy's not there. She doesn't go back to the Lego. What does she do? She starts looking for mommy everywhere. And if mommy is not there, she panics. When mommy is there, she can go back to play the Lego. She feels attachment. she can go into her own world. When the attachment is not there, I'm lost. And there's four different responses to it. And they all come out later in life. Trauma, which is spoken a lot today, is all about I detach. I detach part of my brain from reality. I detach part of my body. It's too painful. You shut down different parts. What's the healing of it? The healing of it is attachment. We learned and we explained there that the source why Hashem allows there to be a Helen vehester a trauma is because it challenges a person to go beyond his stories and go into a beyond creation which from there comes all healing. Here we come into a deeper place and that is and that is and it's it's this may be very intense and We have to experience it. Why did Hashem allow trauma in the world? Why did Hashem allow a person to experience detachment in the world? And everybody does in one way or another. It's not just to run away from that and go back to attachment. It's ultimately to find in yourself theos to ultimately in that independence and detachment there could be a tremendous curse. That's the curse of Yesesh. Curse of Yesesh is not just ego. It's not just corruption. And it's deeper. You're alone. You're alone. That's that's tough. Real aloneeness is tough. But if you can find in your aloneeness that your aloneeness also has the so then your aloneeness doesn't destroy you. Your aloneeness allows you to become Hashem in this world and then you can already become attached as we'll see. So this has tremendous ramifications how we deal with loneliness. How we deal with that sense of separateness. There is a curse in separateness. Yes, that's yes. Yes is really separateness. It's not ego. Ego is the insecurity is what yes is. It's not ego. How do you heal it? Attachment relationships no connection trust. But you know how you really heal it? find you come from yourself. You know why you come from yourself? So just think of that and I don't know you could think. It's beyond it's it's it's not some it's it's beyond think. You got to you got to breathe it in. You got to experience it because the source of the detachment didn't come from thoughts. If it came from thoughts, it didn't come when you were 21 years old and you were philosophizing and you thought you were detached. It came from your gut. So has to also be in the gut. So now we come to the last step. Okay, the last step. I mean the last step in what we're discussing. have made the bri comes from atmos but how does it come out because if atmos created the world without anything else the world would be just atmos so there's a process what's the process the process is there's kaim this tense ca makes structures there's a cup there's a table there's a cell there's an atom there's identity there's structure we have a structured world we live in a world of Caleb because gives itself out in the carries the was created with the which is but it has to have measurements. It's finite. Everything is finite. How does that happen? It's not just atmos creates a world. Then the world is atmos the comes and the goes into and the fuses with the kirovas and through the kali creates a finite world of structure whether and every animal every insect every mammal every fish every reptile every bush shrub tree legume Plant, vegetable, blade of grass, blade of grass, flake of snow, droplet of rain, black hole, black hole, galaxy. You sit at my sh. Very good. You forgot atom. Cell has a functionality. It has a purpose. Why? That's kale. Atmos has the went into the kali. The kay creates but the that's straight from what he said. for its wa from ah that was created with why does he use the word boyfriend what does he mean it was created we don't see the in our world we don't seem in the in other words we call it We call it nothingness. Why? Cuz it's concealed. One second. But it is revealed. So we have a big issue was that the which made the bri said it's so said it's gilli. So captures atmos so to speak. It is atmos reveals atmos goes into the kali and the kali creates two things the world with finite measurements and the y which is atmos but says created the kayak why there's and kayak reveals them the source kayak is the energy the power I throw a football my kayak is in the football but my hand is already gone right the football has my kayak so kayak is always concealed so he says because the ways creates This world is asmus appears as which means as nothingness because it's not. So here you see what is not just that gives you a taste of no The because of the B of O possesses the atmos possesses O could create O which is GUI possesses the atmos that has No source. I the whole of is it has a source because of the of captures the it has no source that itself comes out in I the whole of is I reveal you I have a source that's if had a little yes because has no of yeses. So because of the B of who am I? I am nothing but the source. So who am I? There's no I. There's the source. So I reveal paradoxically that which I can't reveal. What can't I reveal? The fact that atmos has no source which I can't reveal because I do have a source. Is there a distinction between before the parents have this is all before theum after the is this is all preimpum. This is pristine. There's no caim. There's no filters. We're talking an original is a reflection not a reflection a revelation. You can't really distinguish between distinguish. What do we gain from this? So we gain from this iss relatable means. So transports into the world of isness. And from here begins all fusion with the secret of there's the ultimate between the ultimate truth and every of identity because once there's there's identity but but seems so far says is so deep that the which could come only from can also happen through captures the of that doesn't have a source and that's given over an in how can capture that has a source how do I give you the feeling of no source when I have a source you know why I can give you the feeling of autonomy even though I'm not autonomous I'm all Moyer because Moyer is autonomous and I'm but I'm not. I'm but that's what is telling you that I'm not and that itself is my mitsas and that's why I transport Moyer into the world of Mitsus by negating Mitsus and therefore elevating Mitsus. You hear you hear the vert the first is the whole of is if you want to tight up in a you know there's a lot of madreas and yeah so my brother Simmon told me that if you study the madregus of schlickis you'll see that every madrega of slickas is a madrego How deep is the connection? The deepest connection is mamish say but the is not the once said the fourth of say is that the is separate that's why I need a what's the you could do what I can't do you could go somewhere where I can't go so if the was not separate you lost the point the my is that it's not atmos if is atmos I don't need you you're taking me to a place that's not atmos is atmos is already a compromised reality. But because of the B of that's huh? Yeah. Okay. That's already so here that the happened from but it didn't just happen from there was went into and went into and from there came the bria and that's why we have the world the way we have it every aspect of the world you I could show you this part of the world this is kale this part of the world is this part of the world is atmos it's like layers the y of the world is atmos the trauma of the world is. It's the healing of the trauma. Huh? Reclaiming yourself. That's why the worst thing you can do to somebody is take away that nuda. You're taking away from them atmos. It's the ultimate manipulation and exploitation. Now, some people do a taka with innocence cuz if you're not a yesh, you're protected. So, okay. Yeah. So then it's tak you know there of there was such a you run away from yes but when you're doing it from a place of yes oh this is dangerous right that's what real exploitation is what's the real kavan a person has to know that their yesesh is their ultimate tikun but which yesesh the divine yesesh not my insecure ego. So this is the of this is the of that's why the rebba started not just that it tells you about it tells you atmos which is beyond moy and that's why the could be not just the could be the source of which is nothingness which is hen which is not how can be that which is not it is just like could be a wave and a particle And not in other words is not only is also what do you mean? It's ridiculous. No, because of the so when you look at you get an experience of it has no beginning even though does have a beginning and that's the of which comes from because gives you that's you define as as ability to be perceived. That's yeah, very good. Or it is that atmos allowed itself to be perceived. But it's a ste cuz if it's perceived, what type of atmos is it? Good answer. Good question. And the answer is you're right. That's why everybody said there's no such a thing. Forget it. You're dreaming. You're dreaming. Atmos perceive. Sorry. Let atmos be atmos and perceive your own stuff. What is if you touch there's no such thing as perceiving you could perceive the sun you could perceive certain things in his last letter says no the allows you to perceive that's what comes out how can it come out because of the complete of there's no blockage so the gil of captures is even that which can't come. There's no gilly of it. It's and and or has that too. So the ultimate tick is in independence in creativity not in um that's why you'll see there was such a focus on people maximizing their potentials. There were few things that the Reb could not tolerate as much as when he saw people squandering potentials. It was and you wondered why the big deal till 11:00 then you eat for an hour. Yeah. And then you learn a little bit. It's a good day. You go to the mikvah again. Your wife is they live their life. They didn't bother anybody. They no pansai schemes. They didn't hurt anybody. What's the big deal? The couldn't be I don't mean on a personal level. The Indian was put that even understood you have to throw a party with full potentials. Even only the could learn as our lesson from his party. Everybody reads the migill and they say I'm aug alcoholic addict kills his wife comes says why do I have to know a whole story that he was a mug alcoholic tell me one p so even the tipish understood you have to live life according to your potential was a ya growner label growner's brother so I used to fang with him so he told me that he had a friend that he learned with in yeshiva and it was basic the early years that sent out a note in the middle of the day. He didn't want to tell me whom he didn't want to tell me. He sent out a note as a a note to him. Three words of underlined three times. It's of utmost necessity that you start maximizing your not because you know the commencement speeches at graduations. You have to live that's usually given by billionaires who tell you don't be afraid to fail, right? You know those speeches, don't be afraid to fail. You know, he has $20 billion dollars in the bank. Don't be afraid to fail. It's not devart. It's nice to tell people it's it's one of the because if it's because is is missing the ultimate I mean I don't mean in the positive sense in the sense of knocking the yesesh. If this is your expression of identity, this is atmos could be so comfortable with identity because of its ble. When you're not really bottle, you're afraid of identity, right? When you're completely bottle, you're not afraid of anything. There's nothing a stit. I'm not afraid of I'm not afraid of individuality. I'm not afraid of people flexing their muscles. I'm not afraid of people having opinions. not afraid of people having emotions. I trust the yes because deep down it's atmos but it's notes. That's why it comes through. Atmos comes through. What if atmos wouldn't come through? What would the look like? No. So would it be better or worse? Huh? No. The higher worlds also come everything comes from atmos. There's no but in the higher worlds there's no yesesh. There's only so the higher worlds they they embody they embody. They don't embody that the word of that word. It's not and that goof comes through. Okay, we're going to take a break here and the next in the mimer is going to be next Wednesday night 9:00 in this house. We have here the boys of cameran. So, welcome. You understood a little bit of what we were talking about, huh? Okay, don't worry. I also didn't understand too much. So, don't feel too bad. Huh? I'll tell you the truth. This week wasn't it wasn't an easy week because of a lot that's going on, at least in my world. So uh mo many of my shim this week we're dealing with things that are not very comfortable to talk about because of what happened in Israel. So uh and I spoke a lot about it this week because of obvious reasons. So as I was coming here, I was thinking about how do I go from a world that is I hate to say it so dirty and so filthy and so corrupt into a world Yeah. where there's no uh there's no tipper of corruption not garnished it's all mish atmos so I remember the misa I was once by such a amazing story my brother Barak married a corf's father's father whose name was corv he passed away a few years ago he was 106 so I was once I went with my brother I once went to visit him shabas afternoon I think was a by the when they would say the shabas so Sunday the people reviewing the m would come in and they would say over the m in front of the and the reb would correct it by the rebi you didn't have the mic but the previous so I heard from it was the 1920s like around 1926 1925 the difficult years of communism and he was theer the kebab set a long m on shabas and Sunday he went in himself I I think he said he was still a baker to say over the whole mime in front of the and the reb would correct him. So he was saying the may in front of the Rebayat and the Reb is correcting and in the middle somebody walks into the room. I think he said it was the Reb's son-in-law. I think he said that and he tells the Aayats there's an important telephone call. Now they had in their house they had a telephone. This was in Len Grant. It was a telephone the 1920s but the telephone was in the kitchen. So the Reb had to go and he told the it's a telephone from Moscow for Moscow. This was something very urgent going on in Russia. And I think he said that about to travel to Moscow. It was a serious dilemma about Russian jury under the communists under Stalin. It's a Stalin's days and uh and uh and he's the middle of Khazar of the May and the M was talking about deep madus in the Lus and I think he said it was speaking about also Ganed. So the after taking the call he gets up and he's walking out of the room. He turns to Shia kurf. He says and he goes out takes the call. Theia waited. A few minutes later he comes back sits down and he says continue the so I understood that the is Yeah. You don't have to get in a spell. Sometimes you're called to go from you don't get stuck because you don't get entangled doesn't get entangled gets entangled. So and then you go back to your original place and if the health you can go back you don't have to stay too long over there.