How Rebbi Akiva Nullified Kalba Savua's Neder - Daf Hashavua Iyun Sugya Kesuvos 63a

okay good afternoon everyone sh um today I want to speak about the uh subject of Raba being May the ofar says on going on toar says was the shepherd ofas saua and kabas sau's daughter uh noticed admirable qualities in Rab AKA that he was modest that he was he had great qualities and she says if you go to the Yeshiva um will you marry me if I agree to marry you will you go to the Yeshiva he agreed so he married her privately and she sent him to Yeshiva so the father heard and he kicked uh her out of the house and he made an ed that he will not be benefit them from his possessions so he spent 12 years in the academy when he came back he had 12,000 students and he overheard the old man saying how long are you going to be like a living Al so rabika took that uh so she said that well if he would listen to me he would go back for another 12 years soika took that as permission and he in fact went back he comes back with 24,000 students and uh the bottom line is Kaba was having regrets he wanted to be made for the so he heard a great man was coming so he comes to says did you have in mind that the nether would uh should be even if your son-in-law would be a gab rabba and said no not at all I wouldn't have made the nether even if he would have learned one peric even One Hal SOA revealed himself I am he aaba fell on his face and kissed Raba and he gave him half of his money so if you have if you're able to look at it asks is not a valid PES for meaning something that is a future consequence which was unforeseen at the time of the nether is not a valid nether oh if you would have known that this would have happened what what do you mean if you would have been a navi if you would have been a navi I mean uh what do you mean if you would have known that this would have happened of course that's not a way to be to make a PES in a someone made a NE there you know um if you but if you would have known if that this new that this new eventuality would have occurred that's not a valid PES what the's theal normal cases you know the person thought they would be able to to withstand it the person says I'm not going to eat for two days you know if you would have known that you could not withstand two days you wouldn't have done it nothing new happened not a new eventuality you it's just you thought you could hack it and and it turned out you can't but if something occurred that changed in scenario that's not a valid uh PES so what do you mean if you would have known that your son-in-law turned into rev AA but that's not a valid way to be P it's not a Valen so so uh interesting um uh interesting that so gives an amazing answer says here it's not considered since he went to the house of the rebi it is usual it is normal that if you go to learn you become a great person so was saying this is not a new eventuality nothing new arose nothing new came up he went to the Yeshiva he had already gone to the Yeshiva it's normal that if somebody goes to Yeshiva he becomes an Adam now obviously it's not always otherwise kab would have made an or probably it's not Ro otherwise would not have uh made a net there d means that's the path the path of why do you why does a person go to Yeshiva they go to become now it might not be common but that's what you're going for that's the D the D is you're not there to learn one word you're not there to be uh regular the D the the path of Yeshiva is to become an ad so that's not a new eventuality that's tus we we learned the tus when we were learning this I sent you in the the in asks this question also and he gives a little bit of a different answer Dan asks I think that which we say over here his father heard and he was not there on the ne that he was able to be for him if you would have known that that your son-in-law is a rabbi would you have made the so the how could you make such an opening we learned later on so the r anwers as follows different than not that different than not that it's the D to become an ad but rather here it's different Raba on condition that he became AER he married her he didn't marry her on condition he's going to be a great Rabbi he married her on condition he would be AER and for that all that's required is that you learn one peric and one different than says it's the to be thean says he have to beam because because would not have made the had he learned even one peric or one and learning one peric and one is definitely the D that's definitely that's definitely uh common and therefore um therefore it it is not noad So based on this answer the sh addresses another question if you look on the second sheet of your that sh discusses that what about the fact aside from the fact that RAB was being what about the fact that was let me you know re rebi K is the one who stood to gain by kab being off after all he's the rich father-in-law and he was uh made a NE not to benefit his daughter so since stood gain he's how is he allowed to be M the yeah good question so the says so he quotes the the Taz brings r that R didn't M the himself but he brought others with him but according to what thean says that it says the not P even if you have others with you if you're one of the bden it should not work because of so it's like being so you have to say that RAB AKA allowed gave to hisim that they could uh M the ne now this is the answer I wanted to share with you the shes in the he answers that based on and the that the of how is R able to be M than but and answers that it's not noad because it's the D that if you go to learn that you become an ad and the ran explains more because since he didn't even make it if the P if his son-in-law would have learned one per or one so it's very to learn one per one is something that's not common so says sham quoting the Y the of is also not a question why is why isone why can't they be M because we're afraid that if they have a personal bias they may not look into the matter well that's only that you need great and investigation to be so then you not well but over here that but over here where the PES is black and white you don't need great analysis the p is if he would have become an ad you would not have made the ne and it's not a because he was in the Yeshiva so basically the same reason why it's not NAD it's not a problem that he's n because n is only an issue when the PES is not black and white but here the p is black and white so is not an issue okay so the sh is using this of to answer not only why it's not but it's also not an issue of the fact that rain so he's okay have a wonderful day thank you he