How best to hear the Megila – using a megilla or chumash reading along or listening

In today's sh we will be as Hashem concentrate on the and the pertaining to the listener to the one who listens to the migillah and we'll try to cover the that are and some of the that are even The seg I'm sorry the says you have to read the whole and then there's another two one is you have to either read the migillo listen to the migill has to be the whole entire migill and besides it being the whole migilla it also has to Which means won't be this from this what the would have stopped here you would say that both of the are which means s you have to listen to the whole entire obviously if you miss part of it you're not and when you listen to the migillo you have to hear the migill the has to be reading the whole migill from from inside If part of it was written outside read outside you're not that would be the to read the whole and all of the reading has to be however the continues on the says this then of reading the whole migill inside is only to have the whole megilla inside if your migill that you have is missing some words or even if the migill is not missing words but when he was reading said some of the words outside is the so we have over here clearly two one is a that's and one is only to listen to the whole entire every single word is even which means if somebody misses you're not however to hear the whole entire whether if the it's missing in his migillo or whether if it's dear but part of the migillo when he was reading he just spaced out he was saying it outside you are it's not but it's those are the two denim Since we see clearly that you have to read the whole entire migilla says to that if the missed one word even one word you're not even if one word one word was missing you missed one word it's The mission over there is speaking about the balra. What's about if the balra said every word but you didn't hear every word? In other words, read the whole entire migill but the that's being he missed a word. So that covers that as well. says the listening to the has to hear listen to every single word if the if the one who's reading the the one listening to the missed even one word is so you're not if you miss one word, you're not which the definition of not being is you listen to the migill, you come home, you that you missed one word or you knew you missed one word, you're not and you have to hear me again. you're not. Now the when you say you're not means that you have to of course you listen over to the you have to make a again however the over here in the sim a little further the brings that there areas that hold that only when the only time that uh missing a word is when it changes the let's say the pig lo also the um you miss the so if you miss the it means so it changes the whole such a word you have to say over to migill but what happens if let's say a word that was missed didn't make such a big difference in other words you can understand it without it also um smonish harmon over So therefore says the even though if you miss a word no matter what word it is from the migill you have to listen over to the whole entire migill you're not you're not the migill however even though you're not ya to make another bra that would depend to make another braha would depend if it's a word that changes the Indian or not if it's a word that changes the Indian then when you listen over to the migilli even have to make a bra. If it doesn't change the then you don't have to make then uh you have to listen over. You don't have to make another braha over the word by itself. >> What' you say? >> You most definitely could. We'll get to that in a minute if you miss a word and how to you know make enough to do it the right way. But we're talking about over here that either he didn't but he remembered afterwards clearly that he missed the word. So what do you do now? Now to say the word after you finish the megal that's so what you missed >> right we'll get to that and go back and we're going to we'll get to that in a minute how you know how to make up when you miss a word but so now we're handling the vial that he missed a word completely he he missed a word and he finished the whole entire migilla what do you do now you have to read over the migilla depending if you if you missed a word that changes the Indian then you have to listen when you listen over when you read it over you have to make Since each word is and if you miss a word you're not says the reason why do we say the everybody says the shab since the is saying it very fast to be able to do it in he says ef to be able to hear every single word. So like this everybody says it like this you're covered like this you're covered. You have every single word and even if you when the says it you miss the word you have it. So everybody should say the whole the whole all the for sure. Why does say it over afterwards? The says it after we say it the says it over. So if that we have the the the when he hold when he speaks about the we all say so why do we say it and then the says it is supposed to hear the whole and if you're going to say a and you're saying it from you're going to be but it's not. So therefore the says it over should say it over afterwards also we say to be able to make sure at least if we miss a word then afterwards says it hopefully you'll hear every single word and you'll be if not at least you have the of the four says it over. So like this you have it. It's read from inside speaking about the of hearing every single word the says that when the says he should make sure to say the right to the right of the kids. In other words, he's a bunch of the aces. So technically you could say the first he says is first he says is make sure to say the vase inside a lot of times you know you're with your the is focusing on his breath to make sure that he gets it all in. So the vase is obviously the vase and you just go with the kids. So you say just the you say by heart but even furthermore he says is make sure to say the right the the ace that goes to that kid. That means let's say on the the top one he's the and then the ace. Since we see that to have every single word if you say some words outside everything should be inside is the primagum says I'll read it a person should have to followth I don't sell mcgillis so I'm not uh I'm not trying to to push but the the primag says a person should have a miller yi Why? So he says it's not possible to hear every single word. So like this when you follow in a migill and you heard that you missed the word at least when you missed that word you can make it up yourself in your migill and immediately you'll have the whole entire migill. However, if somebody doesn't have a mill, you should make sure to follow with because that much you want at least. If you're not going to follow and you don't know you missed a word or if you missed the word, you don't know which word to make up. So please follow. So you missed the word you have brings the at least hold because if you miss a word you'll be able to make up the word. another primadment in a different place when you bang and it's so noisy and the continues on so you miss a word or two before if you miss a word I'll you'll be able to make up those few words you'll be able to make up so we have so far to hear the whole entire is even to here that is only and we see that it's better to have a so like this if you miss a word you'll be able to you'll be able to follow and say that word from a migill so you'll have the of saying it inside however if you to do so you don't miss the words completely however there's a possibility for two reasons in some cases that it's better to follow with a kish rather than to follow with a migillah a kasher or migill better following a kish firstly I'm sorry not two reasons one reason the milah to be able to the there's a myo following from ash and the reason for that is is because the we mentioned before says that if you read a word that changes the Indian which means let's say it says hama instead of no you read hama which changes it changes the definition if you read the word you didn't miss the word but you read the word in a way that it changes the definition of the word you're not ya you're not yo even if you didn't miss the word you just read it differently if you're listening from a with a c following along with a kasher migill and you miss a word and then you say the word yourself in the migill if you're going to say the word not properly not the right pronounce you're not pronouncing it right and it changes the in the word you're not going to be so I ask you what's better to say from and at least the words could have the words or if you're going to read you have a beautiful migilla which you taka should have. You have a beautiful mgilla but the word that you missed was a word when you said it you didn't say it exactly the way it's supposed to be read in a case where it changes the definition of the word you're not going to be even so what comes out is an upside of using a kish rather than a migill there is however an iter Okay. There is a however to get a migilla and put an audis. Yeah. You ever saw such a thing Morty? to put in audis you put in and if you miss a word you have using best but even though using a mill could cause you an issue of reading the word not properly so I never saw such a thing and the truth is it's not done because the says that it's only good if you're spending money getting a migill the test says the if you have audi and the reason for that is because the said hold that it's possible so the says so then really it's not such a partn I'm not sure which you should do means of and then of reading it from a mill with makudis. They're both which one's a bigger maybe >> run the risk of saying it wrong and not even knowing you said it wrong. >> You're right. So for that case of running the risk of reading it wrong and not even knowing and then you're not y at all. for that risk you should rather say it from but I have a solution by writing the kudus in the migill so which one is better should I write nudis and then I'll have of being hearing the whole entire migill from inside it's a ofuding to the kra Yeah, you're right. If you listen to the balor and you say the words so the sh is really right how Ellie is pointing out good point the shil is not which is better the sh is if you gain anything meaning to say is if the is equal to the of path part of it so what's the worst thing that could happen is the words that you miss you're reading it in a in a millo that has the kudis so it's also lisa There's a possibility what you find there's a possibility that if you only do some of the words nudus that it shouldn't be included in this soul of nudus only if the whole nudes some words in a kudus are not possible. So really you could put the words that are hard words the words that are going to change the that's one also means if it's a you're listening to the migill and it's going to be noisy and you're going to miss some words. So it's a shasa. You don't want to miss a word and you want to say it in your migilla. So it could be it is an joking. What do the brisketss do? >> What do you mean? What do they do? >> This is the type of thing like they don't fast cuz you might die like do they use a rubbish or they use >> Well, if you have a good balyra that knows every word and they stand by the bean. They they don't let any noise and >> that's very true. Yeah. I guess there's only one biscuit that's two shoes going to be. But it's not the whole Kistan is going to be like I'm sorry. >> But that's true. They have a bal that's clear. But even for I guess for the people that hear that say over they know also the RA very well. So now we'll get to what Elliot mentioned before that what happens if you talk or miss a word. Now we put it clearly that you can't miss a word. If you miss a word, you're not even you have to say over the migill depending sometimes you might even have to make a everything should be inside. Now whether if you listen you're following from a or whether you're following from a you miss a word you miss the word and you want to make up the word. So how do you make up this word it's important this is very important and you miss the word be may. So if the said already the word and then he stopped for a second and you put the word in be may it's a problem because it's a not therefore one should make sure to say he missed the word and the is moving along. You should make sure to say the word up until which that could really be a problem if the bakar is going really fast. You could be racing and racing to catch up to but that's the to make up a word you have to make sure to say that word up until the is holding. So the said already the word. So don't just make up the word say and then let listen to continuing. If they clap everywhere they give you they give you a second to catch up. >> I'm thinking you get much trouble. >> So there's one minion police by day that has clmping at every minion. >> You don't have a hard time catching up. race the path beyond doing it only you should be erased and go all the way till the end. >> Yeah. And then you have a different problem unless you have a kasher or migill you have a different problem. could be most of it brings up a point and this is even if the is holding by the word mayash you missed be may and the is saying and you said be at the same time could you say be may at the same time it's while while the is saying you want to say be may and have at the same time and then who continue on. Continue on. He's mic. I think he says more than just muffic. He says like that you're not going to be for two reasons. First of all, because if these you need a seder that is a problem. So even is also not going to be good because you really need it lined up. He says that it's it's hard to hear both. You have to hear what you're saying that word be may and also the says you need. So to hear both is very hard and if you don't hear both you didn't hear both words. So not only if the went further a few words you have to catch up to him. Even the word itself that he's saying you have to also say that word till you're caught up completely to the >> you're reading you have to hear what you're saying. >> It's it's a mus and in one sheet you do. Yes. We'll get to that also in a minute. Like let's say while you're saying it, we'll get to that in a minute. >> Guy is deaf. I I knew a guy that was deaf. He used to read the himself. >> So it could be could be he's not even if he wants to be to hear to say it want to be with you don't have to hear but he's tak anyways. So we have over here that if you if it's a I want to share with an interesting story that happened in recent years in Benal Kra that read after everybody said Benham he said Ben and he said it means he said one name the wrong order. He read the whole migillah. Afterwards, the bar mitzvah went over to the RV to tell the RV, I I have a feeling I think that the bal didn't say the order of the names. So the RV went over to the bal and the bak said I happened to have taped it. I recorded it. So they listened over and the tak was said a different one of the names. It wasn't in order. So what's the what's the wasill or not? What does the say was it the when he said wasn't in a >> saying it themselves. >> Oh Mortia has a very valid point that the also said it and when the said it everybody for themselves said it in the right order. So what the bal did, who cares what the balkra did for the so they were they were all at least of reading the mill by heart part of it or the people that had a meill had even but is for sure not his whole was nothing. No. H so Morty is bringing up the Lamisa everybody has the CAS because they said it Abby is pointing that Lisa the Balka when he's reading after which that we need we're listening to the crea afterwards that's not a good ka because he doesn't have the ka of before if gets up in the middle and he starts reading in the middle you have you have to have a crea that it's a kera that you could be yo also even if the balra comes and he was yozy you read it already we have over here 20 ka sigilla and the bal is holding by number 19 he was yo >> you can switch off >> that's a big shila we're going to leave it on the side I have a lot of interesting mar that about switching off balikor but in the case that you want to point out of switching off which does happen sometimes which is even clearly about it is they're both there the balor let's say gets worse or something you can't continue or he's feeling weak by fasting. Another guy steps up. So that guy was at least listening continuing on as opposed over here the the self-reading it's not a kera. So that's a good point. Let's tackle what the rough said that everybody has to listen over to and just to be only to point I guess if there wasn't too long of a and yeah you're right only from there >> how do you do that >> we just start from the last part why not I mean if they want to go they went home already and if they went home already there be there is a house >> but if they didn't go home and if you make a mistake you go back about together. >> So if if it's 2 hours later they the rough said you have to read over to McGill and he's a Mishna Brewer about it. Not exactly this case but the Mura speaks about a case a pretty standard case that the Bal is reading it out and you're listening to the McGill inside. So he says you're not the explains as well because you could only get as much as the Byra has. So if the bal is reading it al it's not a kasher or a ka so over here also you can only get what the bra has if the bayer so he's his creed they weren't now that we see that you should have everything from and you need and of course if you miss a word you're not person has a ker migill What should he do? Should he preferably follow along in the migilla and say every word or should he rather listen to the balyra? Which one should he do? Another question along those lines. You said before the you used the word spacing out, but if the guy's sitting there, he knows he heard everything. He was there and there's not that much noise, but he doesn't remember hearing a specific bustling cuz his mind went away. >> We're going to cover that as well. I don't know exactly spacing out, but let's just say perm by night when a person fasted and he didn't have his coffer yet and he kind of like almost dozes off. So it's better we'll get to I'll repeat your question in a second. We'll get to that as well also >> if say if you say it you don't have a problem if a person's listening to the creillum this is also a pagod rather even if you have a kerilla you should rather listen to the b saying the whole migilla and the reason for that is melse more pursu rather listen to the follow along in your migillah however if a person's not going to be able to listen to the balra in many words. You're not sure which words, how many words, what words. You just want to be on the safe side. Then you're going to have to leave me and this more pursu on the side and follow along in the migillah. So this depends better to listen to the and just follow along. If it's noisy and you're just not in the bal is not so clear which could happen sometimes and you're not sure this word that word just say along with the balkyra every single word there's another mile of saying along in a case which like Morty brought up I don't know about spacing out for sure if somebody's misnam he's kind of almost dozing off and you're not sure which over there there could be a problem that you miss some words or Even as the on on says that you'll you're not for those words which I would think also if somebody spaces out maybe that's also maybe it is a mama to listen to migillah and if you space out could be that won't be a problem in such cases one should say the migill along the whole time should say along to migill however and just to conclude even if you do say along to migill Don't say it out loud. First of all, don't say it loud because the person next to you, you're disturbing him. Not because it's annoying. But even besides that, if you say it out loud, he's not going to be able to listen. Your neighbor is not going to be able to listen to the is going to miss it. And even if you're reading from a mill, at least have in mind to be to be the guy next to you. So if he hears you, if he hears you, he'll be with your inside. So you're going to say it low. But even if you say it low, you have to be careful. If you're saying it, either listen to the or if you want to be with what you're saying, like we mentioned before, then you have to say it loud enough because if then you're not. So just to sum up everything we spoke these two clear these that you have to hear the whole entire migillah you're not allow to miss you can't miss even one word and even if you say a word but you said it wrong that's considered missing a word it's considered missing a word and then these to try to hear the whole entire migill inside which means if you're going to say words that's not considered inside unless you have a kasher migill up.