Holon #1- Rabbi Yochanon Gurary: History of Gurary family, Chasidim of the Alter Rebbe - RC Dalfin

I'm here with Ravin Gori, the Raarosi of Hulon, the chief rabbi of Hulon, and I'm in his wonderful house. And we saw his beautiful library here, which is about 20 25,000 books, holy books. And I'd like to uh talk to you a little bit about your life, your family background. Uh you begin wherever you want. Go ahead, Rab Gari. Speak a little louder, please. I go ahead. Well, where should I start from? That's not my question. Start a little bit your family history. Family history. First of all, were all the way up to the alterb. Not not just to the you know from the first. His name was Yeah. His father was Yeah. And the last is called pit to race to race. I show you the safer. Okay. Afterwards. Okay. That your el your great-grandfather wrote wrote a safer. No, no, no. In in the safer all the rabbis. Yeah. Okay. 1912. Yes. That's all. So who who were you talking about? Yeah. But there was a whose name was his name was [Music] um that was Yes, I've heard I know I've heard of him. I forget his name now. But no, it's not the right. It's not your the shari was your ela. Okay. No. No. But he was a relative. same family. Same family. So he wrote about the family in Okay. interviewed him. Yeah. And he writes that that the first kari that we he knows is that came from Medina doesn't write from where and he had a son that's called now he writes that was a Yeah. And once he was in the And he was had an argument with Yeah. And tracted. Yes. And alter was standing there and he said, "Wow." Wow. That's what he writes. He writes that. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So that So in other words, you go back to the alterb. Yeah. And this he writes there that he taught the even though I didn't find it in his name but he writes that he was passed away he was the one that said that really yes and his name this was ar this was the first whose father was was got it okay okay and then when When did your family move to Kachuk? The gr are known for Kachchuk. Okay. He he the my he used to live in in a small city was a ro in a small city or somewhere the name and they moved to Kuk. Mhm. Okay. And he passed away in Kuknosi. When do you remember when he passed away roughly? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And the whole family lives lives in Kachuk. Yes. I was about three years ago. I took all my children in to Kachuk and I found there and very interesting things. First I found there is Baravis had they were the people that had money. Yeah. They were well off. Yeah. And they had a a a business. It's called was tabbak. Tabak. Yeah. Tabak. Cigarettes. Cigarettes. Yeah. It's still standing today. The building or the business? The building and the business was still working today. The Japanese bought it now and they this is also here from Tony from Kamachuk and soon I mean he asked that he wants to have a picture from my grandfather to hang up in his and we were there. So we visited the the place how do you call the the the whole went around there and that's that's how you call now I understand that the house I think is still standing am I wrong the house is standing the house same same house is there yeah not only that there's a hospital that's that for Jews that don't have the money so they they they funded it theyed And bunch of they still be in the in the in the on their right. So that's still standing. That's that's standing. That's sitting. It's it's and functioning as a hospital. No, I don't know. Right. You don't know. Okay. Okay. And then there's a But did you go into the house where you zas, you know, lived? I I went into the house. No, into the house. You're talking about Wait, I'm talking about the house now. I'm talking about the fabric. Yeah. Okay. That you went into you told me. Okay. Then I went with Whether we found the how the shoe of the galis the sho they had an own shu they had their own shu their own sho their own sho they were calleditzad yeah right so so in other words in addition to a a regular this was the kabad probably the mosh called yeah but I'm saying there was another kabat too right yeah there was the famous rafalovich right Right. He He wasn't here of an Alibaba shul again. I don't know. You don't know? Okay. So So one second. This sh is still standing. The sh is is half broken. It's a cult. It's a You mean demolished? It's not. But the building the building shell is there. Yeah. The building is there. It's not a big building. It's it's a wooden building. And And does your family own it? Yes, they will own it. They own it till today. No, today I don't know. Uhhuh. Then there was then there was al also a um in in in the petros they also had a big fabric and there was also shoe from the from the in two parts on second side. Uhhuh. You were there? I was there was a lot of times I was there a few times in the in Right. And so basically they go back uh all the way all the way throughout the and of course we know that they were to do yeah and they they paid later there was had three children one was the oldest. Yeah. Then he had a son that's called Nosari. That's my grandfather. And then he had another one father. It's called Yeah. Okay. Now had a son that's called he was there was a very rich person very rich also. He was he lives in V later Yes. And he was killed with all his children over there. Yeah. The only one that was left over was the wife from Her name was How you doing? Yeah. Right. Right. She was the only one. And I think the marriage I think married my my my grandfather. Well, he was Mad Kadush. Kush. My grandfather Kasik Karas Karasik and his wife was gi also. That's right. Yeah. So he was kadusha. I didn't know that. Where in in in I think it has stove. Uhhuh. I think he has sto. Mhm. Okay. So this house he he bought a big house. A very big house. It was it was it and the the professors from Masha this is the house and the house is there now the house was was belonged to and he lives on one floor and then he made the whole he so the whole story the kits the yeshiva was was in that house yes I've read that I didn't know this I read that he opened his house to make the yeshiva in his the yeshiva yeah when others when they when they ran away from the right Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Um the building is there. The building is there. There is there we went into the building and we saw we saw the slept everything all the way. So what does it use that as today? It's today it's a a theater. No, not not a library. No, it's it's Oh, it's a printing house. Uhhuh. It's a printing house. But they didn't change. They didn't didn't change and it's still on the name of Marshall. Right. That's very interesting. Yeah. Um and then he moved over to Verel. Right. Very I think stayed with him part of the time when he was running away from the bombs. Right. Right. Right. Let me ask you why couldn't he get out? I mean with his connections and his wealth I mean and that the got out and why couldn't he do the same thing like did the he didn't want to go? I don't I don't know. You don't know. can be a kid if you want to go. Firstly, he was aided by the son of Yeah. Right. Okay. I I can't say the reason why I'm Yeah. Right. Tell me there was a a Geri in New York, Julius Geri. He was a son from Am I right? Right. G the biggest from everybody. So he was a brother from from who? Schmoo from from he was a brother from Nusen. He was the oldest brother. Nen there were four brothers no three brothers and and now so this Julius is a son of Yes. How many other children did he have? A few children he had and they came they all came to America. They all came to America and he was very very big deal. Yeah. And also broccoli the building of the the kitchen remember was on their name. Uhhuh. Yeah. So he the stuff I know I know I know I know I found a letter so something there's something I saw Jew that was okay um Jew was he was a a by by the son of a [Music] he was yeah you you he passed away before you before your time right he passed away My my aunt and my grandmother went were there were by his house. Oh, by his house. House visited him. Yeah. Uh-huh. What about his children? Any connection to you guys? Got right. Okay. So let us now