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Rabbi Morai Saskco, welcome back to the
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I was a kid about questions that teens
ask. Oh, here is a copy of the book.
>> Really wonderful book about questions
that trouble teens. And I had those
questions. Lord knows I had those
questions when I was a teen. And it
wasn't easy for me to find the answers
and find the right person to deal with
it and take have what I thought was the
courage to deal with these questions
openly. Robbie Sask is providing this
service.
So we're going to jump in. This is
Rashana Yam Kipper time, but if you're
listening to this any time of year, it's
worth listening to. And we're going to
get right into it with the first
question, which is Rabbi Saska, what's
the point in telling God, "I'll never do
it again. I'm doing toua." And really, I
know deep down, yeah, I'm probably going
to end up doing it again.
>> I I think that it's a it's such a
sincere question because it comes from
someone who's typically very honest with
themselves and trying to be like honest
in their relationship with God. uh and
they know they have an area they want to
improve in but you know improvement is
slow and it takes time and it's not
necessarily going to be done in one
school year or one year right people
change their lives slowly over time and
we go into yum kipper and everyone
learned that sha means right I did it
I'm sorry I'm never going to do it again
and so how can we like honestly like
speak to hashem and davin and say I'm
never going to do it again. So I I think
there are a couple of ways to approach
this. I think a person if you say out
loud if you say Hashem I did this a vera
I did this sin I know I let myself down
and I didn't live up to the standards
that you have for me then even if we
know we're probably not going to be able
to eliminate this 100% but can you make
a 2% difference right and 2% 5% 10% over
time those things aggregate And over
time you become a different person even
small changes. Uh I think that a per we
have to appreciate a small win. And just
like if I had a whiteboard with me I
would draw and there's a a small angle
at the beginning but over time as the
lines move out from that angle that
small difference which the beginning
it's like very hard to tell even the
difference between these two lines but
over time they're in very different
places. I think a small amount of tshoua
over time like a a little bit of a
difference I think it changes the people
that we are. So I think that's one
advantage. It is worth doing tshoua and
saying I'm sorry and admitting the sin
um even if the only change I can make is
a small one. The other thing I think is
that a person that's able to say I've
done this sin and it's wrong and I'm
sorry. That's different than a person
that's unable to say that at all. It
makes a tremendous difference. Even if I
I can't change now, but at least it's on
the list of things I want to do. At
least I know that change is something I
should be aiming for. A person that says
like this is who I am. This is what I
do. Then that's uh a person who's not
going to be looking at change at all.
They're never going to get there. The
first step is like saying like I know
it's wrong. I know I have to do better.
So, I think these are are two ways to
get to it.
>> Thank you. What What's the point of
beating our chests? Seems like so
antiquated. Come on. Really? I'm like,
you know, waking up my heart. What's
What am I doing with that?
>> Uh, it's part of the choreography of
Davining. You know, the uh the sages
that helped design the filos that we
have, the prayers that we have now, they
they have us bow at certain times. They
have us stand straight. They have us sit
down. Um, and so also there's a
choreography of being sorry that we use
our body to like acknowledge I did this
and I did that. And if it helps a person
feel like they're in the moment, they
feel like it's bringing up feelings of
can do better, should do better, then
it's very helpful. And if for some
reason it doesn't click for you, I I
wouldn't get hung up on it.
What would you say to somebody who says
that a lot of this is just Jewish guilt?
I'm terrible. I'm a bad person.
[clears throat]
>> I don't know. Guilt. [snorts] We have to
acknowledge when we've made mistakes in
order to improve and move forward. But
if guilt is something that is holding a
person back, then it's unhelpful. Um, so
I don't I don't know what like Jewish
guilt would be. You didn't call your
mother enough. I like that's uh if that
inspires you to call your mother, so
then it's worth carrying around. But if
it's working against you, then it's not
worth it. Um I think the ideal is for a
person to acknowledge when they've made
mistakes and be able to to move on from
there because that's that's really the
goal is moving forward.
>> Excellent. So this time of year, even
those of us who were familiar with the
prayer book,
suddenly
we're bomb we're bombarded by Sleos
special penitential, is that a word? Uh
prayers and the prayers of the liturgy
of Rashashana Yam Kipper. A lot of big
words, a lot of flowery words. I don't
understand a lot of that. Why should I
say it? What's the point in saying those
those feelless if I don't understand it?
>> Yeah. So, this is a question I get from
students like all the time I a couple of
times a year. Some version of um I don't
understand the prayers in Hebrew, so why
should I say them? Can I just pray in
English? Isn't that better? Something
like that. Um, so let me just like parse
this for a little bit between the like
you described and like the regular
prayer like and like regular prayers. So
um for the regular everyday
or shabasto
then these are prayers that were written
by sages and among them the very last of
the prophets. uh these are prayers that
in the themselves to have a special
spiritual co of potential to them and
there's an advantage to saying them in
Hebrew even if we don't understand let
me just explain this very very quickly
which is you know and I know that the
universe is made up of atoms and
subatomic particles and electrons and
protons that's what we know the universe
is made of and that is true in the
physical world but we also know that
when the Torah describes creation it
uses the metaphor of speaking. Hashem
spoke and created. Let there be light,
right? And there was light and so on.
Now, obviously, when we say God spoke,
it means something. It doesn't mean
God's vocal cords like exhaled and
sounds came out. It's it's a metaphor
for God brought into being, whatever it
means exactly, but it definitely God
we're being told that part of the power
of creation was using words through
speaking in order to create the
universe. Because in the metaphysical
world, the world's not created just out
of atoms and protons and neutrons and
all of that. The world's created out of
letters. The letters, the words of
creation, they're actually part of
creation themselves. That's the Jewish
mystical thought. And so the sages and
the prophets that still understood how
to manipulate the letters in order to
have an impact on the spiritual world,
they help form those prayers like the
weekday Amida. Um and therefore the
ideal is for a person to say uh their
prayers and understand them. But even if
they don't, the prayers themselves have
like a power. Um the and a person should
say the regular estray and also their
own private right you should freestyle
ding also you should be able to like
just whatever is on your mind talk to
god as part of the prayer service uh
that's the ideal these but for like this
that you mentioned most of the that we
have are written by inspired Jewish
poets in the middle ages right they're
they draw on illusion from the Tanakh
from the Bible and they draw on
different gamas sometimes and midashim
but really they're written by inspired
Jewish poets. Uh and there's something
very nice about saying them in Hebrew
because you're together with the
congregation. But if it's like a really
frustrating experience then absolutely
you should take a look at the English
and try and get a sense of what you're
saying. Um different lesson I could
>> What if somebody asks you Rabbi, do I
have to say every word of every prayer?
>> I I I'm not a fast enough reader myself
to be able to say the words for
everything before the khazin is ready to
go on to the next thing. Like I can't I
can't keep up, right? So I say all the
things that I can and when the khazin's
ready to go on to the next thing, so
then I go on to the next thing unless
like I just have a couple of lines left,
then I try and finish the one that I was
in. Um especially if I it's one where I
kind of vibe with it. I know what's
going on. Um the but
>> so let's let's go there for a second. So
let's say you're getting inspired by a
certain prayer.
>> Yeah.
>> Be it in English or the Hebrew
>> and
the Kazin's already on like two or three
more. Should I stop what I'm doing or
should I like you said vibe with it and
go with it and then end up skipping a
couple? How bad is that?
>> It's not bad to skip a couple. The only
It's not bad at all. The only thing I
would say is that when the kazin gets to
the
is the part where he's saying hashem
and the congregation is saying that out
loud that's like kadesh or kadusha
that's something that a congregation
says together. So you should pause where
you are respond to that piece together
with the congregation and then you can
go back to the piece that you were
doing. Um, so
>> right, right. And last question for this
evening is,
why does God punish us for what we do?
How could a little guy like me do
anything that
hurts or damages God, so to speak?
>> So, I want to I want to challenge a
premise of the question for a second. Um
there are uh this is a question that
I've gotten from teens that are
typically um at first angry about
something and then we can unpack this.
They if a a student feels like something
they're getting punished from God. So
then you'll get this kind of a question.
It's that's its own issue. But I want to
share the following analogy just for a
moment. Imagine that a person like was
hired like you got someone gets their
MBA. They get their first job, they come
to work, and they're told, "Okay,
welcome. You know, you're a starting
position. You have to start with some of
the grunt work." And you're like, "No,
no worries. I'm ready to put in my time.
You know, do what I have to. I have a
lot to share. I want to help this
company grow." And the guy's like,
"Okay, the first thing you're doing is
you're taking all of these numbers from
these sheets and you're typing it into
this computer program. That's what we
need you to do." So, like the first I
was like, "Okay, that's kind of not
really what I have an MBA for, but I'm
happy to do the data entry because you
got to start somewhere, right?" And the
first day he puts in all the numbers
exactly the right way. He he he wasn't
wasting time. There's other people in
the office wasting time, but he's really
cranking it out. And um the first week
he does everything. He's the best
employee there, right? But his boss, he
never says anything to him, never
notices him. No added boys, nothing.
Like two weeks go by, no feedback from
the boss at all. And then he's like, you
know, why am I busting my chops here
trying to do this? I see everyone else
is like wasting their time. So he comes
in 5 minutes late, 10 minutes late, he
leaves 10 minutes early, he does a
little bit less. And still the boss
never says anything. No one. There's no
feedback at all. He gets his paycheck,
but like nothing. You know, how long
could a person last at a job where
they're an anonymous cog and they get
none of feedback from the boss, right? I
think not very long. Most of us thrive
on knowing that what we're doing is
important. It it matters. It makes a
difference.
The reason that Judaism is hung up on
reward and punishment, like it's one of
the 13 principles of faith, is that
there's reward and punishment is because
what we do matters, right? A human
being, the physical body mixed with the
divine soul has the ability to change
things in this physical world and in the
spiritual world also. The things we do,
they matter. Reward and punishment is
about saying
you matter. You've made a difference,
right? Not just not a human being can't
hurt God. That the question is like
false, right? But
we can make a difference in the
universe. And that's what reward and
punishment is. It's about saying the
things that you do, they have
consequences. They have real
consequences because they matter. And I
think the um the the next part of that
is that God doesn't punish people as a
revenge. But our faith is that
punishment when it comes is about
cleansing. Is about helping a person
either get to a greater reward or to
become a better version of themselves.
And I think we all experience this at
times that we've had difficult moments
in life and have been able to come out
on the other side as changed, perfected,
improved people. Not to say that that's
easy or that we all would have chosen it
on the front end. Um but we know that
it's like through the struggle that is
how we we grow. Um an athlete doesn't
keep doing the same thing. They have to
keep increasing the struggle in order to
become great. And I think that that's
part of this also. When Hashem knows
there's more gas in the tank, we have
more potential. We're not living up to
what we could be. That's when
corrections happen. And even in this
world and the next world um punishment
punishment is really about creating
cleansing so that there could be reward
or so we can earn more reward or so we
can be closer to God in the end.
>> Fantastic.
Fantastic stuff. I appreciate the
inspiration and I will share it with our
listeners and I'm hoping Ra Marai that
we could revisit this sometime after
Yantiff and we can talk about other
>> other important
>> questions that you have covered in your
book. Tell us again about the book Show
the Cover if you don't mind.
>> The the the second book, the most recent
book is this questions you thought you
couldn't ask. And if anyone's looking
for a great book um for para, this goes
in the order of the parote and asks
questions that maybe you thought that
weren't okay to ask about our great uh
leaders and uh you know Moshe and Aaron
like all all the people in the past
maybe you thought those weren't okay
questions to ask but frequently they're
questions that the rishonin also asked.
Um so this is the most recent book and
um the first book was this questions
obnoxious Jewish teenagers ask which is
more about Jewish philosophy and a
little hala um and it's really about a
teenager's experience in this world
and
all the best. Thanks for the
opportunity. Thanks so much. Byebye.