The Hidden Depths of the Passover Haggadah - Part 4 - Rabbi Dr. David Gottlieb

[Music] first of all the russia says he's excluded it says exclude from the community why because he said what is his service for you implying that he's not part of the group but the wise son says what are these various mitzvahs that scheme' our God has commanded you he also says you so why don't we throw a brick at the Russia and we were happy with the y son simple answer is because although the y son says commanded you he mentions hashemi lukina sham our God has commanded you he can't accuse him of excluding himself the community you in speaks of our God okay so he's including the community but why did he say you why doesn't it say what a sham I our God has commanded us simple answer to that is because he's a cotton he's underage so he can't say commanded him sitting him he wasn't commanded children I commanded so that's how you understand that in the case of the Russia he's really excluded himself from the community and the y son has not exclude himself of the immunity now the introduction to the four sons was the short paragraph blessed it is ha macomb which is a name for God plus it a c-plus as one gave the tour to the Jewish people lessons he so has the word ball of four times at introduction to the four sons should indicate something and what does it mean to call God how muckle how Markham literally means the place it's very peculiar name for God and has found not only here when you go to visit people who are mourning for a death you say I'm occurring in a famous kept God should comfort you and the title for God is ha welcome but this is not title only to the Haggadah what does it indicate now in catalytic terms is the only one that I know to explain it in any reasonable sense kazakh terms the word macomb means the ground of all existence round the war existence let us play with that when I explain what that means let's take life without oxidation nothing can live because things live by getting energy in and building blocks out of the food and they do it by oxidizing the food if you canceled the chemistry of oxidation there wouldn't be any life so you can say oxidation is as part of the foundation of the things live on about that they can't live there are preconditions for things to exist at a function now let's take a table or a chair tables and chairs take up space you imagine a world which there's no space then it can't be a tables and chairs because they take up space any space to be in and indeed every physical thing that's created takes up space so space becomes the ground of existence of all physical things so the way God has described is that he first creates the possibility of things and then it realizes that possibility by giving the real existence to call him a Macomb the place is to indicate that just like place is the ground of existence of all physical things without space you can't have any physical things so God's the ground of existence of all things so you're speaking of him as the one who gives ultimate existence to everything now one of the implications I think the frittata brings takes out of this is the following she said borrow four times and Boris refer refers to each of the four Suns one of the sons of the wicked zone let's remember that God is giving existence the wicked son also we question ourselves about our attitudes towards things I would say well the wicked sounded wicked so I reveal about him remember that is giving him existence she's very careful about what kind of attitude you have towards people who may qualify for being wicked there are certain exceptions but I just say that for the recording I'm wear them I'm just bringing out the general ideas now and what application of this is the following we spoke about the fact that the wicked scientist agent says what is it serves for you and it's excluding Sophia we don't answer him we don't answer him but he is at the Seder we didn't close the door on his face we didn't say Canton in fact we invite him to the stated but when he challenges that way we simply say I'm not talking to you because you know listening yeah let's see me so point2 to talking to you because it's not a dialogue not a conversation but we don't exclude it just as God gives him existence so we too don't exclude now we come to a piece of Tom Munich reasoning a good example of how its record nadama but it's a piece of classical tomita cruising we are about to begin the mitzvah of real reliving as I said reciting the I gotta teaching the excess from Egypt when is this mitzvah done when does it apply so the look at the gotta quotes your home address cause you might think that we should start telling the story of the exodus from the beginning of the month from Rose Cottage me son Tommy loma by yahoo nope the verse says tell it to your son on that day now let's just bail us out we ask the question to give an answer maybe you'll think you should you can do it from rosh chodesh let me hear your month no that's wrong because it says on that day exactly how do the words on that day rule out the possibility that you should start from the beginning of the I got is asking maybe you should start from the first of the month and then wants to rule it out so let's ask that says what is it was thought what is that I got a thought why would I have thought to start at the beginning of the month because in the actual exodus process the first time Moses came to people said the X is going to happen if you're prepared to fulfill our meat sauce was Ross foolish so just like Moses started the actual process 3200 years ago on Raw Scottish maybe we should start telling the story on those quarters awesome I'm also the key commemoration of something to happen on that day but that guy says no that's not true because the first that tells me to to me to do we count the story says do it on that day so I'm asking how do the words on that day rule out the suggestion that we should start from your shoulders one day that's it if I suraj as the daughter says your home a rose foolish that would be anybody doing it for two weeks no posix says one day so the suggestion doing for two weeks is wrong fine next close to what you said a moment ago ebuy oahu yahoo may be old young it's only one day maybe should be the 14th in the afternoon why what is there that's in the 14th the afternoon which would justify that being the time when you tell the story of the exodus of the covers and all that is you there you offering the personal sacrifice which obviously was a part of the of the exodus process and in legal terms all the paths of a celebration the offering of the past will sacrifice if you omit it has a penalty of curries not the rest something sort of caps intuitive if someone says know when they're offering a sacrifice I'm not participating then he gets the terrible punishment of course suppose he participates but the ND system not eating that doesn't characterize it's not as bad it's not as bad it's not participating in the past of sacrifice so pass the sacrifice so terribly important maybe I should recite the accessories you then no it says Bob or is it the verse that describes what i do on that I says bob was there so i shouldn t pass a seam is right for the sake of this I said did for me when I left Egypt now the word this is a demonstrative you can only say this when it's ugly the point to let me say this it says but was that Lorelai pls Josh yesh now some say ma tomorrow move on the floor peasant matsumoto forever you have to have the mats are the more and maybe the pestle also sitting in front of you on the table so you can save to the sake of this endpoint and that's it I I mean I want to ask the question this way I'm much more say so say primitive and blunt so it says there's abdomen you're able to point and the matzav are on the table of the night that's what I said I time right put them at some more in the table in the afternoon put him on a table according to that terrific that I are hello that's what I'm doing it for when I probably after how is I gotta proving it has to be at night by saying you have to be on the table the answer is this when I point to Mozza and I say take of this a chef Duffy out of Egypt what do I mean do I mean you know dad then they start baking Matz's on Hanukkah for months and months that lots of bakeries are going strong and shipping out crackers to the whole world that's why God took us out of Egypt totally cracker factories and international commerce and a lot of money you know yeah that's probably not the right answer God didn't take us out of Egypt so this should be crackers God took us out of you so we should do the mixer of the crackers the mitzvot of the crackers of the eating is only at night it's only at night now that includes all three the pestle not so more so putting it on the table in the afternoon is not it it's not going to do it it's got to be put on with this when there's the missile that's only at night then the hog Oilers argument is Sam so the context in which this classic comes is a contest is talking specifically about matzo it's the first paragraph of the Sh'ma and [Music] second yeah it says as long as young as she was a sure it's awesome in Australia miss Everdene remember the stated she left Egypt as a slave in Cuba cause I got a shot Hosea Sheamus fun easy volley of comets a sham look you out don't eat comments until you see bahala na V for ya give you a harsh i ll talk naughty when I can we bring you into the Land change bar here's a rush the auditor is about as those because it has said hey I have to do this service in this in this month Sheba's youngin taco my toes seven days you shitty matter where your mushy hogwash am 7th is a hug my toes oleic he'll miss us yemen shouldn't much treasure I'm exhausted Martha's yeah thought she was on match spirit even for seven days well how much you shouldn't have any comets appear value of a sword or so alcohol good luck huh in all of your boundaries be Kara through the Holy Roman with a bar but man she tell your son that day but was there I saw several even say see me time to think of this she did for me from its time so forth of the massive but confess it isn't there at all right yeah you don't begin to understand okay believe it so that's that's why it's got to be the mats and and the matsuzaka be the tonight I'm because the only midcity with the matter is eating it and that's why it ends up being good night ok now comes a paragraph which carries a very important philosophical payload that I know that all the apparently all do but it's Kayla of the awards over others or how you ever saying it originally our ancestors where I worshipers yasha of kevanna welcome i was now coach Brock was brought us close to his service mr and now you have o-positive liver in the book of oh sure and we'll talk about that in detail this paragraph reflects a malicious in the camera the mission says that we should recount the exodus from egypt by starting big news and going to sheva this means our degradation so to speak and described in the transition to our praise praise worthy position my host robin shmuel one says the caduceus slavery and the craze is freedom she has to tell the story from slavery to freedom the other says the caduceus idol worship because after all Abraham's father was the Iowa shipper at least at the beginning of his life and shove off the praise is that we serve across world there's two different points of view obviously the second point of view is more inclusive than the first point first point of view is just from slavery to freedom the second point of view goes back not only the slavery but back three generations all the way to tariffs and it goes forward not only to getting out of Egypt but to receiving the Torah at Sinai now obviously you have to tell a story from slavery to freedom that's what happened on this night so you can't give a without that so the other one is telling you that's not enough you have to do more rush is why Marty's do and if you say look you're talking about historical yet you can't really understand in historic event unless you fill in the context what came before it what gave me afterward okay I hear that but where do you draw the boundaries how much further into the past should you go and how much further father future into the should you go isn't it true that the further back you go in the past Immortal understand and the further future the future can go more you understand so how did the other more draw the line and say you'll go back go back to Terra who was not I worship you going forward go forward to seated cetera sonic don't go back to Adam or to creation don't go forward to the Machine off no stop at the idol worshipping ancestor and receiving the terse I who told them how does he know that that's the correct historical boundary I think the answer here is I think I always forget what its radish more maybe tomorrow silly what he's saying is not that you're just adding past the future which adds perspective what he's saying is you can't understand the transition from slavery to freedom at all you can't get anything out of it unless you understand that it's in the middle of a transition from idol worship to serving God if you don't add in the background of going from others and serving God your your understanding of slavery to freedom is going to be flawed it's going to be bad it's going to be misunderstanding and the reason for it is something which I think both of you have heard from you before reason for it is because for our point of view freedom is not an absolute human right it's not a definition of the appropriate human condition freedom for us as a means it's only significant because it's a means to an end if we didn't use our freedom to serve God it's a freedom worth investment and serving God that it wouldn't be valuable at all there's no value just divide adjust to being free going to sports contests and eating cheeseburgers and you know taking trips to Amazon rainforest that ain't it that's not what you existence about so the other one says if you don't see this in the context of going from slavery to freedom you're not getting yeah like the story of access at all the storage access must include the purpose of the exodus and you won't be getting it okay look it's clearing this now let's go on in the Paris is personally from you Yeshua my osu al-hakam she said to the whole people so says I share in the God of Israel once upon a time your ancestors the weld on the other side of the river to whom am i referring who's this ancestors the father of avril Tara the father I brother I've out of the already alarm bells should be ringing who's here who cares about the why is he here for say parents brother we're Jews we traced back to Abraham ready to say bout of the by a lil him I've heard him they served other gods but caucus avrohom is the veto over huh I said we could mess up your home thank you maybe on a harmful and took your father Avram from the other side of the river well lejos overhaul it's not I caused him to walk through the Land of Nod which about the tricky point some say is that attack took possession Allah for bears are oh what a Louis and yes this look I increased his children I give me a sock potain leads carcass Yaakov I took care of his awesome there should be other theories of his line as I said and his son or other son but at least it was hard to hear I guess a air see it is it say so nothing to see here Russia's also to inherited the Yakov above you are do is we have an expression that that people use and I think probably not too many people misled by we just have to be aware of it that you wish God the Christian God the Buddhist guard down there's only one creator of the whole universe he is as much the guy to Chinese as is the guy the Mexico Eskimos are the gods of lions and tigers is only one created that means he's the creator of the whole universe and he's running the whole universe and in focusing on our special relationship with God and what he has done for our history we must not lose sight of the fact that he is the god of the whole universe this is what we mentioned a kid in the talk with the kiddush that he chose us from all the nations each other ball donations because they're his nations and he chose only us I Hirsch has a very interesting remark on one of the common phrases that we had believed ahora Israel the Jewish people is my firstborn he calls us the firstborn strictly speaking if you're going to be a before gonna be first born that means there are other children otherwise if you're an only child myself a horse a little you know it's funny before someone gets other special privileges over the other children there aren't any other children or to put it the way I logician will put it listen you're the only child so you're the first point in the last point in the middle born it appear everything because you're the whole whole story so what this verse says listen there with two brothers Jacob and Esau God had plans for ISA also and God said he saw up also to indication that he's running the whole world and when he chose us it means all the nations are in his hands and he chose us rather than that now it's also the picture of the contrast you a sub while he's alive gets her Savior he gets be geography he takes over and he ends up with an army and he's running a show and Jacob and his people go down to Egypt where they're strangers aliens and although they are highly respected and honored aliens for about 120 years but at 120 years to become slaves right so you are watching this development of history an external observer would be forgiven for thinking ASA has it made he's really in good shape and your people I just you know they're wandering and and and drowning their their honored guests and land look not their own and then they deteriorate they become slaves you know just like nothing's happening for them that's a developing that are becoming anything worthwhile and that's also an example of divine providence because I'm probably sent this Egypt specifically because there we could learn what the value freedom is and what the value of pursuing it for its own sake versus the value of having is part of you your diet I wish you diagnose eyes you know you you get that from this this picture here okay now we have a paragraph which like many things have you really careful you see it's ambiguous create two ways and it could teach you something each way Barac shall have to hustle the Israel blessed is he who keeps his promise to Jewish people present tense Oh shakers woohoo he shaved as a Kate's God calculated the end lhasa squashing at sharmila removing him to do what he said to Barbara least famous sorry the covenant between the part she never by here alive rom you know at a hockey gear years out of her bare Zola him alva doomed you know some I bermeo Shana he kept he kept his promise with them he said the people of course brother said to him you should know that you're going to be a stranger and a land that's not yours what try this again your descendants will be strangers Atlanta it's not theirs they'll serve them and they'll press them for 100 years God was a cote d'ivoire no fee the nation I well they serve i will also judge sorry can't use Subaru Chicago no then go out great wealth now this verse says everyone was told that is and its children should be there four hundred years how many years were they were all really so something's gotta be figured out here how's that supposed to work simple answer is this look again at what it says the God says to him yeah don't take a key gear years out a ho berthold ahead your children will be strange land doesn't belong to it Vava doom and your children will serve the heap of that land being or some and he'll that land will hurt your children a circa way we'll talk about that musician are Bob Mayo Shoshana this is three-way ambiguous but this verse says is ABC you are some place where you get into [Music] so there's an ambiguity here it says a b c 400 years you could read that three different ways really like this a B and C are going to take 400 years come here that way you also rooted a B and unseeable before good you could also read aids gonna happen these that happen comma and see 400 years no bears lamb no not at all you could be how were the Jews in Egypt for the first hundred twenty years there in length it didn't belong to them they were honored guests nobility close to the King jr. AHA Bethlehem yes that's one that's one that's a so that's a no others be right the inner Osama see and however much sean is d there's nothing no no no this there's ABC 400 years oh the question is what's the 40 years go on so the reactions are the four years ago on see alone the four years could go on BNC and the four years ago I B&C because brooke who gave a formula which gave him what way out and he it will depend upon how the events developed as it was because well who chose the understanding which made at minimum a B and C for 400 years because from the birth of Isaac until the exodus is 400 years so the minute Isaac is born he's a stranger than Leah doesn't belong to him because the Land of Israel didn't belong to us Abraham didn't take possession of it really you're a foreign land stare he had to buy a burial place for his wife so you can start the 48 years from the birth of Isaac okay but it could have been longer that's what it means he shaves the case because Miroku calculated which way am I going to read this verse to make it happen and the so he said is that I'm going to make it the shortest possible way because I wait any longer there won't be anybody there to save as I'll say that we had already entered 49 gates of tumor development that are only 50 person was in or groups because in the 50th is lost absolutely lost Bravo collision of the case now just as a simin of this um what's the numerical value of Kate okay so that's that part now it says the nation that they serve out I'm going to judge I'll talk about that in a minute and then they'll go out with great wealth now it's about the beginning of the paragraph bless is a Shem who kept his promise then we have the rest of the paragraph tell me exactly what is the promise that he kept you say the promise of his slaves he says the promise they'll go out I'm gonna be the whole thing yes that's exactly right it's the whole thing which means part of the promise was it'll be slaves and the author that God is praising God that he kept that promise so it's got to be something positive in being a slave it can't be there was only negative otherwise it may be he promised but that he relented and decided not to do it to us we should we should be thankful to him that he didn't do it obviously this slavery itself was a positive process now this farm say that it took off the result of the failure of Adam once again I'll tell you this updated sensor than you tell me here I said it took off the results of the slave the failure Adam to prepare us for the receiving the tailed a Torah at Sinai without that we wouldn't have been worthy of receiving the Torah at Sinai and therefore because i had that cleansing effect it was extremely beneficial and therefore we are praising god for having kept the whole other problems will see this repeat there's another paragraph which has the same structure and same same idea will come up again but that's a very important part now hey I'm going to end with tip with the remarkably of the puzzle God says the gammas are going to share yea yea vote old Donna no he also the nation they serve I will judge now here you have to be careful the word in English judge is a neutral word you could judge Sony's performance and say you did a great job and rewarded or you can judge them and say you've committed crimes and punishing in the ten now and certainly in the torch ball pen especially the capitalistic literature done is always negative it's always negative so the question is if it comes Brock who set this up to have it to happen this way why then would he punish the people who do it Ron Brown says to two answers first of all this says that you'll be slaves and you'll work hard doesn't say that your first your newborn male children will be drowned in the river that's not part of the plan so since the Egyptians went beyond the plan they can be judged for that if the head said okay God wants this done and we're doing because God wants so that might have been attained it but they did it for their own selfish purposes and it just so happens that it's something that I wanted to have a monotonic you know if if Abe wants to kill thee and he catches be the situation and shoots a bullet and kills him and it'll turn out that be at that moment was facing a firing squad and the government was got executed for a crime and firings quite a fire did bullets at the same time it's just that a bullet got their little earlier and knock them down right but otherwise would have died you know in the same way same time that doesn't excuse a for murder so the fact that God wants the outcome doesn't mean that you necessarily are the person who should be doing it unless you're appointed to do it here they did it for their own selfish purposes and therefore there could be punished for what they're doing that's that's two other two of the ways in which they handle this the ishan go of a saint of élano this is what stood for our ancestors and for us Shalaka bravado milena look Alesana not only one stood against us to destroy algebra hold orbit are on the same in every generation they rise up against us to stand against us Raj Babu my son any other over sages on the hand what is it that has stood for us fahisha I'm no saint of a lot of it is this which has stood for us for us Shalaka bravado zana dash is one stood up to destroy us as well hold orbit over lil Paresh Babu masolino me yo dawg so you the two ways to meet it it's an ambiguity like the 400 years of acuity you could read it this is what stood for us you know something we suffered a lot in every generation people try to harm us but you know what stood to us cars broke who saved us every time what stood for us was that it was broken Snape say this every time or know what stood for us was but they all wanted to destroy us and he saved it they're wanting to destroy us also stood for us because they're wanting to destroy us prevented us from assimilation you'll see that its seat has a whole essay on this that the attempt to brutally assimilate jewish populations goes hand in hand with the comfort and ease that they had being in exile so of course roco preserved us by number one causing them to rise up against us to destroy us and then saving us from their hands the whole thing is what stood for us throughout the generations the same of acuity of whether the last part covered the immediately preceding part well there's a beginning part God is the end or the whole of the end of the interview [Music] you [Music]