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Yesterday we were talking about the map
of average Israel and
it's important to at least have a
general visual
representation of that map.
Again, let me remind you once again of
the fundamental
between Ramban and Rashi.
According to the Ramban
all of the tribes
had the same
Well, again, it's hard to describe it
same amount of land but that doesn't
mean area necessarily. It means same
value [snorts] of land. So every
was given
a portion of land that would be
approximately the same value. That means
some may have had more land some less
land but it all equaled out.
That's the Ramban's opinion.
But it's interesting I saw the Ramban in
says an interesting rule
that that did not people I think maybe
mistake the Ramban. The Ramban uses the
lotion
that
was divided into 12 equal sections
for each tribe.
But the truth is that has to be a little
bit of an inaccurate paraphrase because
the Ramban says in Baruch Hashem that
this did not apply to
meaning Reuben and God
and half of Manasseh they got
the East Bank of the Jordan.
They got everything that wasn't
necessarily correlated with 1/12 of
or the like. So apparently when the
Ramban says all the got equal him he is
excluding
how that worked the God be the Jordan.
Now
if that's the case, I'm not exactly sure
what that means for Manasseh which was
divided between East and West because
you're telling me
Manasseh got a big portion of the Golan
east of the Jordan. So when you have the
residual half of Manasseh do they get
1/12
or or do you kind of deduct it they're
only half a tribe so they only get half
as much meaning how do you factor in the
half of Manasseh to the west with the
fact that the other half got land east
of the Jordan. I I don't know there's
the truth is the more I delve into this
the more questions I have just in terms
of understanding basic
but be it as it may putting aside the
problem of Jordan and Manasseh
the sheet that the Ramban is all of the
got equal him.
And the one thing that does mean is
therefore
Shavet Yosef
got more lands or at least more value
than any other tribe because they
counted as two. They counted as two
tribes.
Rashi learns differently. Rashi learns
that the
of Israel depended on the size of the
tribe a larger tribe got more land
a smaller tribe got less land and even
though
the book of Joshua clearly says that
land was apportioned based on a lottery
system and how how can a lottery make
sense unless you had fixed borders
meaning
I divide the land into equal him so I
have a lottery because big tribes get
the same as small tribes so the lottery
determines
who gets what. But if I say big tribes
had more land and small tribes had less
land how could you use a lottery?
Because you divide
into different boundaries I mean what
happens if
a small tribe gets a big portion. So I
told you the graph
that the graph says that the lottery at
the time of the lottery the exact
boundaries were not drawn up meaning
was divided into regions northeast
northwest southeast southwest central
etc. and the
determines the
general
place in Israel that the would occupy
and after the
assigned them that portion the borders
were then adjusted to fit a large
population or small population meaning
the
was not a precise meaning
it's a little misleading because the
Navi describes the process that there
was a
and
got land with the following boundaries.
So according to the Ramban that was
already in the room
when they decided who gets this land
right one basket or the 12 tribes the
other basket are the boundaries the
boundaries are equal so any tribe could
get any of them. But if you learn like
Rashi
the did not contain one basket contained
the tribes
the other basket did not contain exact
boundary areas because the exact
boundary areas are larger for large
tribes and smaller for small tribes so
what was in the other basket was not
exact boundary sections but simply the
general sections of Israel and only
afterwards
did they then survey it to expand it or
contract it. So this is a big big
important because between Rashi and the
Ramban. Now most maps including the map
will show the tribes had different size
him either that's going not like the
Ramban
mean like Ramban it would be an equal
division or based on values some had
larger more area some had less area but
in
this they were treated as the same.
Yeah.
Yeah well that that is a possibility but
but in a sense that that would almost
make the lottery
you know not make sense a lot because
you
you've already drawn up a big portion
and
if you know ahead of time if you know
ahead of time which tribe is going to
get that because you determine the size
of the portion based on the tribe then
in a sense you already have your answer.
And then you're telling me that
big sections were devised for big
tribes. So that means you already know
that this is going to go to this
So so you can't even though will make
everything work out well but you can't
act as if you already know the answer
before before you do the room. Right you
have to enter the room in a state of
ignorance. That's what the is it's then
a prophetic revelation of him what is
supposed to be but you can't assume the
answer before you before you know the
answer right? I mean how can you how can
you draw up a tribal boundary in exact
contours if you don't know which tribe
is going to get it?
And then say well will fix it up. I mean
again the very drawing up of the
boundaries presupposes you know how big
the tribe is.
You're drawing up a boundary according
to Rashi based on the size of a tribe.
That means you're
making an assumption ahead of time that
this tribe is going to get it and you're
saying but the is going to you know I'm
but
you can't you can't you can't guess in
advance meaning until the
you don't know what is up.
So how do you know is going to be to
anything you do?
You see? So that's why the graph says
that according to Rashi the was only
general area it was not the precise
boundaries that was determined after the
after the room.
Now
we did talk about the complaint of
Joseph and we went over that I don't
want to repeat all of that but I I do
want to say that
I mean again I'll give you another thing
that I have trouble understanding and I
haven't found the fortune address it
that much.
The
after the 7 years of conquest
the Mishkan is still in Gilgal. Remember
Gilgal was the very first stop of the
Jewish people when they crossed the
Jordan. That's where they had
circumcision
because for the 40 years of the desert
the kids were born were not circumcised.
That is where they brought the Pesach
Gilgal
and why is it called Gilgal so actually
we're told because Gilgal is to roll
away that says now that you're doing a
bris I'm rolling away the the shame the
humiliation of the Egyptian culture that
did not circumcise I am removing from
you the
of him.
So the Mishkan was in Gilgal
and Gilgal was the camp from which all
of the wars
>> [snorts]
>> were waged.
So the Mishkan was in Gilgal
for the 7 years of conquest
and for the initial division of Israel.
And from Gilgal
got its like
Simeon including Simeon I'm sorry not
not including Simeon. Judah got its like
and Ephraim and Manasseh
got their
like
that's the Manasseh west of the Jordan
Jordan in addition to what Manasseh had
already gotten east of the Jordan.
But the wasn't finished.
And then
the Mishkan got relocated to Shiloh
and then the rest of the lotteries
>> [snorts]
>> were finished.
Now, the possuk gives us no indication
whatsoever
why that happened
at a particular point.
Meaning, Yehuda,
Ephraim and Manasseh
got their chalakim
while the Mishkan was in
Gilgal.
Then the Mishkan moved to Shiloh
and the goral was then completed.
All the other tribes, including Shimon.
By the way, how Shimon coordinates with
the lotteries is absolutely a mystery to
me because Shimon doesn't have a chelek.
Shimon only has
cities in Yehuda.
So, what are you saying? A boundary was
drawn up with cities in Yehuda that then
went into a goral that could go to any
tribe?
How does that work?
Meaning like even like the Ramban, how
does that work?
I mean, what could could Yissachar have
gotten cities in the middle of Yehuda?
I don't know. I can't I tell you I'm I'm
I'm I'm honestly stuck
with a lot of these protin.
But putting that aside for a moment,
>> [snorts]
>> there was a major movement after the
land was assigned
to Yehuda,
not yet to Shimon,
to Ephraim,
to Manasseh,
west of the Yarden. And remember, by the
way,
you'll notice, strangely enough,
there's a break, right? If you remember
the map we discussed yesterday,
there's Yehuda with Shimon.
North of Yehuda is Binyamin.
North of Binyamin is Ephraim.
North of Ephraim is Manasseh.
So, here's the strange thing.
If the initial goral allocated the
chelek of Yehuda,
Ephraim,
Manasseh,
that means if you'd be looking at a map
of Eretz Yisrael at that point in time,
there would be this unassigned land
between Yehuda
and Ephraim,
which later became the chelek of
Binyamin. It's a little odd. Meaning to
say, you have Yehuda assigned right
away,
then Ephraim and Manasseh. It's as
almost as if Yehuda and Yosef
get the first chalakim.
And then only later Binyamin gets
assigned after the move to
Shiloh.
So,
one thing that's not clear, there's no
indication of a divine command here.
Why was the Mishkan moved from Gilgal
to [clears throat] Shiloh?
And why did that happen
in the middle in the middle
of a division of the land?
Meaning Yehuda and Ephraim and Manasseh
got their lands when the Mishkan is in
Gilgal and that's where the goral was.
And the other tribes got their lands
after the Mishkan moved to Shiloh.
I don't know. So, I don't know why there
was a command to move the Mishkan to
Shiloh and why it interrupted the
chalukah. Why didn't all of the chalukah
take place
in the same place?
But be this as it may, halachically,
it's very very important
to know the significance of the move
from Gilgal to Shiloh. So, in
the Mishkan was in Gilgal for 14 years.
The Mishkan was in Shiloh
for 369
years, the whole period of the of the
judges
all the way until the time of Shmuel.
Okay? So, Shiloh was really a place
where the Mishkan was located for
hundreds and hundreds of years.
And
the Mishkan Zevachim tells us
there's a very big halachic nafka mina
between the Mishkan in Gilgal
and the Mishkan in Shiloh.
And that is
the issur of bamos.
>> [snorts]
>> The Torah tells us
there's an issur d'oraisa normally
to bring a korban to Hakadosh Baruchu,
to Hakadosh Baruchu,
outside of the area that he designates
as the holy place. So, when you have a
Beit Hamikdash, for example,
but these are called bamos. Bamos are
private altars.
Bamos are normally assur.
And if one either shecht say korban
outside of the Beit Hamikdash, that's
called shechutei chutz,
or one sacrifices a korban
outside of the Beit Hamikdash, that's
called hala'ah b'chutz.
That is a chiyuv kares. The person is
chayav kares.
And if a person did it b'shogeg because
they didn't know that halacha, they
actually would bring a korban chatas.
Like every aveira which b'meizid is
kares, b'shogeg you bring a korban
chatas.
So, this is called the issur of bamos,
the issur of
private
altars.
And again, let me emphasize, this is not
referring
to sacrificing to idols. That's that's
that of course is a separate aveira
called avodah zarah.
This is referring to sacrificing
to Hashem.
Bamos.
And yet the Mishkan Zevachim states
there are various times in Jewish
history
where bamos are halachically permitted.
People could bring
korbanos in their backyard.
And the Mishnah says
that the 14 years
that the Mishkan
was in Gilgal,
bamos were actually permitted. If I
wanted to bring an olah,
I didn't have to go. Even though the
cherk wasn't very far, everybody's in
the same place. It's not like there was
a long travel, but I didn't have to go
to the Mishkan. Now, einach nami, even
when bamos are permitted,
obligatory offerings, like the korban
tamid, the korban musaf, they have to be
brought in the central sanctuary. Right?
So, nobody is matering bringing the
korban tamid in your backyard.
So, the communal offerings had to be
brought
in the Mishkan in Gilgal.
And even a korban yachid that was a
chiyuv, like a korban chatas,
you had to bring in the Mishkan.
But what you were allowed to bring in
the bamos
were nedarim
or nedavos.
A neder. A person said, "Harei olai
l'haviy olah, I want to bring an olah."
That's a neder. I could bring it in my
backyard.
Right? Then you have there there are two
different types of vows for korbanos.
There is what's called a neder vow
and there is what is called a nedavah
vow vow.
What's the difference? It's just a
matter of how you say it. If I say,
"Harei olai l'haviy olah, it is
incumbent upon me to bring a korban
olah."
That's a neder.
If I say, "Harei zu olah, I'm making
this animal an olah."
That's called a nedavah.
What is the nafka mina
between neder and nedavah nedavah?
Very simple.
Are you chayav in achrayus? If the
animal you designate dies, do you have
to bring another replacement? If you
said, "Harei olai l'haviy olah, it's
incumbent upon me to bring an olah."
So, if the animal I designate dies, I
got to bring another one because I
didn't bring my olah yet.
If on the other hand I didn't say,
"Harei zu olah, l'haviy olah." I just
said, "This is an olah."
So, if this dies, I'm patur. Whatever it
is. So, for 14 years you could bring
your nedarim or nedavos
in a bamah.
And the only thing you had to go to the
Mishkan for were the korbanos tzibbur,
like the korban tamid, musaf, menorah,
ketores, that was done there,
as well as korbanos of a yachid that are
a chovah, like a korban chatas.
But that only happened for the 14 years
of Gilgal.
As soon
as the Mishkan
was relocated to Shiloh,
that became much more of a designated
permanent sanctuary. I mean, 369 years.
The bamos become prohibited. [snorts]
You're not allowed to bring any korban
outside of Shiloh.
Now,
it then goes on and says that when
Shiloh was destroyed, there were 52
years between the korban of Shiloh and
the building of the Mikdash by
That was David Hamelech's reign and the
like.
So, for 52 years the Mishkan was located
in Nov and then Givon.
And bamos were permitted for those 52
years.
Then you have the Beit Hamikdash, the
bamos become assur and we actually
pasken the bamos are assur even today,
even today.
Once there's a Beit Hamikdash, the bamos
are not going to be mutar.
Interestingly enough, let me just
mention an an interesting issue. You
know,
non-Jews
are allowed to bring korbanos to God.
They can even bring it in the base of
mikdash. Kohanim, you know, bring it on
their behalf.
But non-Jews
don't have an issue of bamos.
Only Jews have an issue of bamos.
So what that actually means
halachically,
a non-Jew today
would be permitted to bring an animal
sacrifice
to God
in their backyard.
If a Jew were to bring
an animal sacrifice to God
in their backyard,
they would be aver on the issue of the
orisa
of shchutei chutz and halacha. These are
two different lavin, by the way. So if
you transgress both of them, you'd be
chayev two chatos,
not just one.
So I believe that there was some rabbi
that was actually encouraging this. They
said, you know, if you want to be a
righteous Noachide,
you want to keep the seven commandments
of Noach.
You want to serve God.
So although carbonas are not mandatory,
I mean, bringing a carbon is not part of
the Noachide law, but it is a way you
can worship God.
So he was encouraging Noachides
to bring animal offerings,
not on the Temple Mount. They they
wouldn't enter the Temple, but on uh
whatever it Har Hazeisim, Har Hatzofim,
bring carbonas.
Uh halachically, would that be allowed?
Absolutely allowed. Uh bnei Noach can
bring carbonas. They don't need kohanim.
Right? They don't have any of those
halachas. They can bring a carbon. And
they're mutar bamos.
So is it permitted? It absolutely is
permitted. Is it a good idea?
Uh it's almost certainly not a good
idea.
And uh most uh poskim say we should not
encourage it.
There are basically two reasons why it's
not a good idea.
Uh reason number one is potential
incitement. You start bringing carbonas
in Jerusalem uh
to the God of the Jews, you know, how
are the Arabs going to react to that?
And so if it's a chiyuv, so you know,
you do a chiyuv no matter what, but if
it's not a chiyuv,
don't start doing things that are just
going to create incitement and hatred
and violence and potential war.
The second reason, which I think is a
very strong reason, is it's going to
confuse a lot of Jewish people.
Because uh a person may make a kal
vachomer. A person, "Hey, that can
bring a carbon?
So I can't bring a carbon? I'm a Jew. I
can't bring a carbon? You're telling me
a guy has this connection to Hashem that
I can't have?"
So what's going to happen is, if
start bringing carbonas,
there are going to be Jews that'll start
bringing carbonas.
And remember, if they're bringing it
outside of the base of mikdash at least,
that's a real real problem. So as a
result, uh
the notion of bamos for is not
something that we encourage.
Uh but still, in terms of a Jew,
remember that Shilo is very pivotal
because Shilo assers the bamos. The
bamos become prohibited
for those 369 years. After the korban of
Shilo, there's once again 52 years where
the bamos are permitted, but from the
time of the base of mikdash, not. Now,
there's a remez
that there are going to be two times in
which bamos become prohibited.
And that is, Hashem says,
uh
ki lo yibasham ad ata.
This is parshas Re'eh.
You have not come yet
>> [snorts]
>> to the menucha, to the resting place,
and to the nachala, and to the
inheritance. Meaning you have not yet
come
to what's called menucha
and what's called nachala.
So it's describing our coming to the
land
in terms of menucha, rest, repose,
nachala,
inheritance.
So the Gemara chazal's drasha is,
menucha is called Shilo. Shilo is called
the resting spot of holiness
because it's temporary, albeit 369
years.
>> [snorts]
>> Menucha
is Shilo.
Nachala
is the base of mikdash of Yerushalayim.
That's a permanent inheritance.
>> [clears throat]
>> And the remez is, when you have menucha,
the bamos are asser,
and when you have nachala, the bamos are
asser, but in between the menucha and
the nachala, or before the menucha. So
before the menucha is the 14 years of
Gilgal.
And in between the menucha and nachala
are the 52 years of Nov and Givon. Bamos
are permitted. Uh it's only when there's
menucha
and nachala. Now the emes is,
you might ask me a kasha, so why are
bamos not permitted when the korban
after the korban base of mikdash? I said
that's a that's a massive massive sugya.
Maybe we'll talk about it later. Suffice
it to say halachically,
uh once the base of mikdash was built,
the bamos remained asser even after the
korban. That that's a given. Bamos are
not going to be permitted. Now if you if
you if you read
the book of Malachim,
you will see over and over again when it
describes the good kings of Yehuda, it
will say,
"Oh, this king was righteous. This king
was good,
but he was not able to get rid of the
bamos."
That's kind of a pasuk that is repeated
over and over and over again,
which means one of the major halachic
religious problems
that was faced in Malchus Yehuda,
which had many righteous kings, was
people got into the habit of bamos. They
got into the habit
of these private altars. And even when
there was a base of mikdash, they could
not wean themselves away. So the bamos
that it is referring to are not the
bamos of avoda zara. They're the bamos
l'shem
l'shem shamayim.
Um okay. So I we do need to point out
that the move of the mishkan to Shilo
was a major halachic transition
in terms of bamos, although once again,
I'm still left with my question, why did
it happen now? And why did it happen
after Yehuda and Efraim and Menashe got
their chalakim,
and the other tribes get it after the
mishkan is relocated into Shilo? And
that also means the goral moves, because
the goral takes place in the presence of
the Aron Hakodesh with the Cohen Gadol,
Elazar, Aaron's son, who's still alive.
So when the mishkan moves, the whole
situs of the chaluka moves.
So I don't know. There must be a reason
for it, but uh so far I have not been
able
to [clears throat] figure out uh that
particular uh that particular structure.
Yeah.
So the festivals that were supposed to
be in
the Temple in the year,
would the people go to Shilo then
instead of the Temple? Yes, exactly
right. Exactly right. The mitzvah of
observing the shalosh regalim,
in which you must make a pilgrimage
festival, a pilgrimage visit
on Chag Hamatzos, on Pesach,
on Shavuos and Succos, for 369
years, they did not go to Yerushalayim,
they [snorts] went to Shilo. Uh in fact,
if you look in the book of Shmuel,
which is before when the mishkan is
still in Shilo, you find that Chana
and her husband Elkanah and Penina, they
would be oleh regel to to Shilo. And the
reason is pashet, because the Torah does
not say,
uh make a pilgrimage to Yerushalayim.
The Torah says, make a pilgrimage to
hamakom
asher yivchar Hashem, the place that God
has chosen. So wherever that place is,
that's where you you go. Now, it is
interesting
that the I think I think I think it was
actually mentioned on Shabbos by uh
one of the mentors, I think by Shmuel
Frachtman, he mentioned it.
But it comes up here,
that halachically,
Shilo
and the later base of mikdash
are both the same, that there's an issue
of bamos, number one.
And number two, they're both the same,
that all of the carbonas could be
brought in either place.
Uh and
uh
and you know, you need kohanim. All the
halachas of over are the same. It's
bamos. The mishkan and the mikdash are
the same. But there is a very
interesting difference.
We know
that carbonas are divided generally
into two categories.
We have what are called kodshei
kodashim,
the holy holy of the holy offerings,
like sin offerings.
Even meal offerings are actually kodshei
kodashim.
And then we have what are called kodshei
kalim, lighter carbonas,
such as ola,
shlamim.
Okay, so think of chatos, asham,
and mincha
as kodshei kodashim. We're not talking
about ola. Ola is totally burnt. Ola is
also kodshei kodashim, but that's a
different thing. That's totally burnt.
But of the eat of the edible carbonas,
some are called kodshei kodashim,
>> [clears throat]
>> and some are called kodshei kalim.
What is the difference between kodshei
kodashim
and kodshei kalim? Let's take a sin
offering.
The sin offering is kodshei kodashim.
So the truth of the matter is, if you
read carbonas every day,
>> [cough and clears throat]
>> and you actually read the perek of
Mishnah,
eizehu makoman shel zevachim,
and you learn that perek, which may may
take a little bit of effort. You'll
actually know all of these
you'd be amazed. You will know all of
the laws of the
laws.
from that period.
Because they picked that period.
for two reasons.
One is that since we don't have
we want our recitation of
to count as we brought a bond.
Number two, it's the only period in
the only of the
in
more than 500
in which there's no
there's no
so it's totally totally unity no
at all.
Well,
one out of 550
no
difference. So here's the difference. If
something is that I am
the meat can only be eaten by them.
And only in the courtyard.
of the
that's called the area.
Only by male
and him.
And only in the area.
If something is
column like a
offering.
It can be eaten by a
by a
Israel or the wife of a way.
And it's not limited to the it could be
eaten anywhere.
in
Jerusalem.
>> [clears throat]
>> Anywhere in Jerusalem.
Now,
let's apply these rules to Shiva.
I got a shin.
Can also only be eaten in the courtyard.
Meaning I have to mention it had a
courtyard. Right? So in terms of that I
am
it's the same rule.
I got in the
can only be eaten by
in the of the dash.
And in Michigan low it could only be
eaten in the within the curtains with in
the courtyard of the Michigan Shiva.
But I am calling is very different.
I am calling.
Which in the
was limited to Jerusalem.
In Shilo.
You could eat it.
From any distance from which you could
see the Michigan of Shilo.
So even if you there was no in other
words, the reason is there was no
concept of a holy city meaning Jerusalem
is a holy city.
So even I am calling have to be eaten in
a holy city.
In Shilo, the city of Shilo was not a
holy city.
But you were able to eat column as long
as you had a connection. To that
Michigan and Shilo.
The whole area.
Now I'm not sure that may give you.
A less.
Place you can eat or more because.
When you have Jerusalem I could eat. I
am calling in Jerusalem even if I
couldn't see.
The of the dash.
Conversely if I was not in Jerusalem and
I could see the of the dash like from
the oven. I wouldn't be able to eat.
Okay, so I am calling in the dash.
Is totally on.
Being in Jerusalem.
I am calling in Shilo.
Is totally on the whole
area.
Now.
Let me also point out it's not only
column it's also in the area of my
journey.
In the time of the dash there was a
second my journey.
And what are you supposed to do with my
journey you're supposed to bring the my
journey to Jerusalem.
And eat it.
And if you were too far away you would
redeem it on money.
And you would bring the money to
Jerusalem and buy food and eat the food
in Jerusalem.
So my journey once again.
Can only be eaten in Jerusalem by by
that I mean the walls part of Jerusalem.
In Shilo.
You would bring your my journey to
Shilo.
And once again you could eat it the
whole area.
Okay, so that that's an interesting
enough to me now.
That uh
that for my journey and column in the
dash. It's with me men at home it has to
be within the walls of Jerusalem.
For Shilo my journey and column is the
whole area.
But for the dash and they're both the
same.
It is in the courtyard in the area
itself.
And of course Shilo as we said many
times already Shilo and are both the
same in the sense of the of the ice.
Okay, [snorts] so that's just some
background information. But as I say I
think we're still left with some and
about why the Michigan moved to Shilo at
this point. And why did it interrupt the
of the earth.
In which
Ephraim and Manasseh got their in to the
that was in Gilgal.
And the other tribes got their in to the
that was continued. After the Michigan
moved to to Shilo right so these are
some things still going to be thinking
about. Okay.
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