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The Danger of Drugs: There is Always Hope - Menachem Poznanski, LCSW
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you know you've heard about addiction
and you've heard about drug abuse I
think both of those things are important
because they're both a very dangerous
things right now it's very dangerous to
be a drug addict and it's very dangerous
to any drug abuser
in the past you know you've heard the
numbers but I can tell you just
practically in a concrete level the past
year and a half for me personally I've
been to more funerals than have been in
the 12 previous years which is like sue
said as a community in the clubhouse for
young adults in recovery so this is a
serious topic and it's a great Avenue to
talk about it so invariably what happens
when I do an event like this it might
pick my particular if my name's and some
kind of lie or something my friend will
come over to the shul and he'll tell me
about some strange addiction that he has
there's a there's a television show I
heard on TV about people's strange
addictions but I get I get a whole so my
friend came over to me the other day I
wasn't sure on Friday and he came over
to me he told me about his addiction to
traveling he wanted to know if it was a
cobbler so so so I got to talking about
it a little bit and and you know I asked
him things like okay what does it beat
you like about traveling yeah and he
says well you know I dropped me I come
up to the he works for a large
corporation so he has like a high status
on the airline season I pubs the curb
guy comes and takes my bag and they
ocean me through the airport and and
then I go right through the check the
security check and I go right and I go
to this fancy place the first-class
lounge and get me drinks I feel
important
so I said yeah that's that's kind of
finally someone that you know
acknowledge that you're valuable and you
know and we talked a little bit about
how but how that really occurs in a very
significant way the life of all addicts
you know because the truth is I heard a
wise man once a the addicts are just
like everybody else except all the stuff
that we do they do accept an extremely
so you know and and one of the things we
talked about was that you can get so
trapped
you know that the only way that he was
ever gonna feel important enough in his
life was if he traveled with that
concierge status on the airplane you
know and to be trapped in that
dependency that I can make myself values
for lying and the human tendency to get
trapped in those things and really in a
lot of ways that's really what you see
with addicts there really people there
suffering people that are grew up using
drugs also there are having fun aren't
you are trying to have a good time to
experience euphoria but they're also
going through a lot of pain and and
they're trying to find a way to feel
okay and we need to consider that
especially when we're considering how to
take action to try to rectify the issue
and save our lives
so so you asked me to talk about hope
and you kind of ask yourself why would
you want to talk about hope you know I
want to like make everybody feel better
so you just gave us a very
heart-wrenching speech about how serious
this is and we need to get our act
together we take action and that's true
we live in this community and I know I'm
teens but also five towns in Brooklyn
Muncie and Lakewood and every you know
so when I talk about hope is that gonna
lead people to complacency so I want to
give you a sense of why we should talk
about hope why hope is a very important
topic when you're talking about
combating drug drug addiction we talk
about combating overdoses drug abuse etc
so when you're engaging a problem so it
answer that question why health is
important I'll give you another question
so when you're engaging a problem
there's really two ways that you can
approach the problem and approach the
problem with a problem centric
perspective or you can approach the
problem with a solution centric
perspective I want to talk about the
difference between those students so a
problem centric perspective is that I
have a problem I show up but I have a
problem my human nature tells me I need
to get rid of this problem I need to get
rid of the problems what am I going to
do something's wrong I have to fix it
let me figure out where it came from
let me eradicate the problem and make
sure it doesn't exist that very gana
now that makes sense it's a logical
component
I want to get rid of it there's a few
problems with that particularly when it
comes to addiction because that kind of
perspective many times is the result of
in the cause of denial which means that
I think that just because I decided the
problem should go away it's gonna go in
I think that just because I'm going to
police the problem it's gonna disappear
and I think that just because I say that
it's unacceptable it doesn't exist and
that's the kind of tendency that we have
to fall into so we have to you have to
guard against so what do we do do you
have a problem I want to fix it what do
I do
so one of the things I thought about
talking about tonight is you know sue
mentioned a meetings any meetings two of
the larger 12-step fellowships that
exist in this country you have some
information on the table over there and
there's many 12-step fellowships and the
12 steps have been around for 80 plus
years they mystified everybody around
them at their effectiveness their
ability to help people they are one of
the most effective teams and helping
people they're addicts achieve
abstinence achieve clean and sober and
and living clean and safe so there's a
lot we can learn from them and this is
not meant to be like a commercial for
the 12-step that's not my intention but
without a doubt if we talk about
effective models of recovery they're
some of the most effective bottles of
recovery now the novel teen the 12 steps
people sometimes look at the 12 steps
well sometimes people have a resistance
the 12 steps many people look at it you
look at the toe steps and you find that
their wisdom is not new the wisdom is
very old we're very familiar with their
wisdom it's very it's very familiar to
us it's ancient wisdom it's logically
makes sense it's common sense but the
real novelty in the 12 steps is in their
order is in the order of which they take
it combating the problem and I thought
it'd be important or maybe interesting
for us to just be committed to just kind
of consider how they go about
approaching the problem and maybe would
kind of shift our perspective a little
bit
and how we walk out of here kind of what
we do when we walk out of here so with
the step stores they begin with the
obvious that begin with an admission
admission of the problem right now you
assume that kind of sounds a lot like
the problem centric perspective that I
talked about a minute ago okay I
acknowledge as a problem and now I'm
going to move on but really what they do
is they do something very very
interesting so no no no it's not enough
to just acknowledge the problem you need
to admit the problem to yourself you
need to admit the problems your
innermost self is the language of these
I mean you need to you need to accept
the problem as it is and and as it will
be meaning that I have a problem that's
not going to disappear it's not just
gonna go away because I willing to go
away go away because I decide not to
have but it's here I need to learn how
to deal with it in comedy so you think
okay let's get to the problem what's the
source what's the route that you use
what emotional problems let me get to
the problem but that's not what they do
interesting this is the novelty no they
say no no no first you need to do is
need to spend some time developing some
hold that a life free of a problem is
possible now why is this important why
should I help hope that a life free of
the problem is possible what do I mean
if I just get rid of all the drugs
people stopped done that's not true
doesn't work so how can I develop a hope
why should I develop a hope that that
that a life free of the problem because
possible because whenever I take now
whatever action I take at this point
whatever I can action I take my time
acknowledge the fact that I can live
free of this problem
I won't just try to be managing and
containing the problem policing the
problem but rather it will inspire me to
take action to gain freedom from it to
gain freedom from its grips and learn
how to live with this problem and I
don't just mean for addicts by the way
everything I'm talking about now it's
not to talk to to the Attis that are in
the room I'm sure there's a number of
them if you look at statistics as
probably 15 20 room and but I'm talking
to everybody because as a community one
of the interesting things that occurs
one of the interesting things that
occurs with addiction is that it affects
everybody around them everybody starts
thinking and talking like an animal so
when we go when Smith talks about
sitting down with a group of principals
who refuse to acknowledge the problem is
because they are suffering from the same
disorder at the end of society we suffer
from the deep sense of denial that if
they stick their head in the sand the
problem businesses so Miko look at that
we have to look at that as a community
okay so what do I do now cuz I have a
hope that there's a there's a sense now
is it time to act and I said no no no
it's not time to act first you need to
develop a sense developing awareness
that there's a power that there's power
outside of you that can help if there's
great power and for us as observant
Druze know we believe that powers the
show right now my son is here he's gonna
help us with this problem that we are
facing may be silent you say oh no and
then we have to face this problem
head-on and then we need his help
now the interesting thing about it is
when you acknowledge they - Emma's here
and you acknowledge needs help he also
knows that he has given you the problem
and he wants you to face it he doesn't
want us to continue to ignore the
problem he wants us to face it head-on
with his own so now
now if you've done that you acknowledge
the problem that's knowledge as it is
and you have a sense that there's an
opportunity to live outside of this
problem we can overcome this problem and
live outside of it in a sense of
meaningfulness and purposefulness
that this is a spiritual action we have
to take as a community to to help the
people that need help and eradicate the
acuteness of the project not that we can
eradicate the problem entirely cos it's
a human problem eradicate the acuteness
of them provide support for the people
that need it now we're ready to take
action and the actions that you do with
the 12 steps is you further diagnose the
problem you remove blockages you learn a
new way of living and we need to do that
just the same that's the wisdom that we
learned so really this is the great
power of hope we readjusted read your
reorients our thinking towards a
solution or you had to perspective you
need to come up with a solution so first
I want to talk about what's happening we
talked about asking a tough
some some some hope this is what's going
on the last in the last three years
since I moved in started the work
specifically that they're doing they
have referred over 300 people to
inpatient treatment imagine addicts with
women suffering drug abusers are in
inpatient treatment and 315 outpatient
treatment now that's not the numbers for
the entire New York that's numbers just
for this specific organization I'll talk
a little bit about the living room we
try to really you know look here was
like this operates in a non distinct
building in the middle of Flatbush we
really try to stay off the radar I'll
give you a little sense of what's going
on so you think that there was this huge
problem there's really amazing
peacefully you have a population of over
150 young adults were in recovery we
have 35 young couples that common some
many of there are people that came to
our program and when they were single
after we have it now it got married
subsequently in established families
summer people that have that have been
married for a period of time and and and
we're able to come to a place of
acknowledging the proper now seeking
help we've been able to this year the
last year and a half we've have to adapt
our program to provide a specific
program for couples in recovery we
provide a retreat once a year with with
supports and information for them we're
doing something very cool and this is a
very excited about it's probably the
most exciting thing that I want to share
with you because it's it's inspirational
and and I get I'm just like a backseat
driver for this thing I had this idea
you know in Israel there's a fledging
english-speaking recovery community in
Jerusalem you have a lot of people that
are either in she were there for the
year maybe they're in Colo there for a
couple of years they're actively in
recovery you know and the recovery
community spans the entire spectrum of
the Jewish community every level of
religiosity every denomination every
background and but one of the things
that goes on in that community is that
people are there temporarily because are
there for a year or two years or three
years or five years then they leave so
the community is relatively budging so I
have an idea that maybe we can take
people from here that are kind of
established a life of sobriety a life of
recovery and we go there to a mission to
Israel but it's very difficult to pay
for something like that so so my friend
Ari I came up with a great
he came up with a great date he said you
know everyone I have only like many
organizations that utilize the Jerusalem
marathon you have young people there
raise money to run into Jerusalem
marathon and they get a free trip to
Israel
she said why don't we get the young
people to raise money to run the
Jerusalem marathon and instead of
spending the money on the organization
we could spend the money on this mission
so we're doing and 15 young people and
this is this is not this is not a
commercial for the organization's
nothing to do with that this is 15 young
people who previously as hopeless as we
described we're now getting on a plane
and they're gonna spend four or five
days in his own without one break
visiting we have visiting meet meetings
going around encouraging people because
there's hope there's real hope of you
get asked I hope you can get help now I
wanted to just add one I wanted to add
one more metric just to a couple with
C's metric and doctors metric since Rosh
Hashana so since September you had 55
celebrate celebrate their year
anniversary at the living room meaning
every year someone in sobriety some
losing 12-step program or not had told
us the program they come back and hear
that the day that they got sober they
celebrated a second birthday anniversary
it's 55 celebrates this year ADA that
celebrated a year 11 them celebrated 11
- I'm sorry 11 of them celebrated two
years and we had a total of 250 nine
years of sobriety celebrated the Syrian
regime and I mentioned that because his
hope is real hope for people that want
that one help I mean the greater Jewish
community there's tons of things going
on there's a lot of hope there's ten
mental health substance abuse
institutions that tree specifically the
friend community there is on top of that
many many many rehabs who have made a
lot of effort as a result of efforts but
seeing other people in our community to
help them become confident to provide a
support and treatment for from people
that need penny that need treatment
rehabs outpatient inpatient recovery
support programs there's two the
websites that are being that are being
launched just for people
recovery message boards support programs
this is not I mean to do it these things
but these things are going on I was so
excited to hear about visions books are
being published
every year there's two or three books
published either about recovery for
people for people in recovery the Jewish
community is beginning to respond to
this issue unfortunately as we've begun
to respond the issue is getting worse
it's getting worse and it's getting more
dangerous our population of my program
has doubled and tripled over the last
four or five years and of course you
heard about the dangerous deaths that
are going there the awareness about
addiction communities rising and the
awareness unfortunately about the kind
of abuse specifically sexual abuse that
many times is the precursor to a life of
drug addiction and drug abuse is is
being found out but at the end of the
day it's a dangerous place out there
there's dangerous drugs on the street as
dr. Pascal mentioned there's a
normalization of heavy drug use like
heroin and that was in high school and
in my early years of my career kids did
into heroin I mean kids that had gone on
beyond the level of experienced drug
abuse and addiction for many many years
would eventually graduate into heroin
today I can tell you very clearly that
young adults particularly will begin to
use drugs maybe six months a year
they're already using very illicit drugs
cocaine heroin dangerous and illicit
drugs
this is not the progression towards
dangerous and illicit drugs is quicker
than everyone and and the last thing is
people are done so what do we do so what
do we do so I want to share it
what's a Shabbos I want to share a
little bit about the father you just
just briefly in that I want to just give
some specific comments so I was reading
the other day I was in shul as before
dominating I was reading through the the
you know before chakras we read the the
episode about them you know kids it's
good it doesn't a shrimp challenge to
give us a nice to give out with you know
you say and one of the interesting
things that happens is that a son gives
album of eating this great news I don't
they should bring his son yet slug isaac
up to as a sacrifice and and it
describes in detail every step that
happened
one of things I notice is that it
doesn't point it doesn't say that he
planned how he was actually gonna do and
if you look at that if you look at the
you look at the way that it's written in
the Torah I'm not saying this is shocked
and maybe just something he doesn't say
that he planned out is maybe he couldn't
imagine doing it but God had given him
an asylum and he said listen I have to
just put one foot in front of the other
foot left foot right away right foot
left one foot in front of the other even
at one point I eat slug says the movie
me says he says he was you know you know
we have all the material necessary
you know where's the Senate session will
show us the sir this is a very important
thing to think about
it's a very very important thing to
think about that even though the problem
seems some movies but and we don't know
how how we're gonna get through it but
at the end of the day we need to take
steps need to success like this but more
and more steps each community we need to
acknowledge to ourself that there's a
problem and then it's not gonna
disappear just because we decided to own
it might never disappear to some degree
we need to develop a culture of
compassion for victims of abuse and
suckers we need to provide community
awareness like this and more you need to
share what you hear tonight with your
friends who didn't they ever have the
courage of the alacrity that comes in it
we need to develop more resources for
those who are ready to get help crisis
intervention outreach support we need to
support the institutions that are doing
that we need to advocate and support
coach Lee company treatment there are
treatment programs that providing
treatment it's our responsibility as a
community to reach out to those programs
to reach out to those institutions
political institutions to make sure they
understand how to help our community and
that's each individual community with
all of its its little nuances and
finally we need to embrace those who
seek help instead of shaming them last
thing I'll say we must accept I wrote
this down because I want to just say you
must accept that a shemin's presenting
us with this challenge that we no longer
could ignore it or just blame the
sufferers or just try to finish them you
have to educate ourselves adapt to the
reality and grow but even more even more
so mature as
may all these efforts be explicit with
the whole Jewish people to bring us
closer tomorrow from the Google
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