The Benefit of Torah - Parshat Bechukotai - Rabbi Dovid Kaplan on the Weekly Torah Portion

we're we're on parite okay now I show you something over here page 708 so uh and by the way they have at the office there are more of these in the main office in case Malon gets on you um in par so the very first in and the reason I like to do this is to show you Sammy okay okay I haven't seen you in a while SP I just left stuck in weed bar now I'm back okay okay I figure log Bomer weekend's going to be a little uh a little looser all right in the very first if you take a look in a regular in a in a m you've heard of the he has if I'm not mistaken 42 different ideas on this one p and the first 42 different per that he had on this one p and it shows you we're going to go through a few of them but there are other mefor also who have uh who have ideas here okay so let's take a look if you follow my statutes keep my and you shall and you fulfill them now if you take a look at Rashi here top Rashi if anybody is show the person next to you make sure everybody sees the Rashi so Rashi says it Rashi is troubled by the fact that it sounds like the Torah is repetitive it says if you follow my statutes how's the Arts go translate if you obey my decrees and and observe my Commandments well the decrees and Commandments are the same thing aren't they decrees and Commandments are essentially the same thing so why does why is there a double terminology so Rashi says you might think that the first expression means a reference to fulfilling the active mitzvah but then when it says this the next phrase says you keep my mitz so it's telling you so what is referring to it can't be fulfilling the Mitzvah because the next phrase says so what do we do with this expression what is that referring to that you should toil in Torah study now this is possibly I say possibly I don't know for sure the most difficult thing for people who are uninitiated to Tor Judaism to understand probably the people understand why we keep shabis people understand keep we keep kosher people understand you put up a missa you wear filling people don't have that much trouble with it the idea of studying Torah and people ask all the time well why why do you guys I send so much time in Yesa studying Torah why why are you studying Torah so much why are you another gor another page of gor another toos another pisla in in wh what's it all about what what what's spending all that time on Torah the answer is did you ever ask anybody people say well what do you get out of it has he a question did you shake aula in an asog this year what did he get out of it what I get out of it what did he get out of it I got a Mitzvah I me a Mitzvah is supposed to be a good thing right a Mitzvah you get some sort of reward eternally that every word of Torah that we study is a Mitzvah if it was a lulov instead of a word of Torah we just kept shaking a lulov all day people wouldn't have any problem we look strange but people would have any problem because they understand you're doing a Mitzvah every time you're doing a Mitzvah don't understand this is a Mitzvah not only it's a Mitzvah it's the Mitzvah because it says in the we say every morning T Torah K Kul Torah study outweighs everything else why is it a Mitzvah so you know what before just just as this this this fundamental here if you look in theem by the R so in theem he says when you study every time we do a Mitzvah you're absorbing for lack of a better term some Godly energy into your system that's why you see that Torah Jews there's very little violence in benra tell you they're very you don't in Yesa I told you I've said this many times my son went to Yesa All My Sons went to Yeshiva so he went to Mir brael okay you have a Yeshiva a dormatory of 600 males between the ages of 18 and 23 600 males between the ages of 18 and 23 and into Yeshua for five years not once in five years was there a fist fight can you imagine such a thing you imagine 18 you're talking about you know males not talking about girls you know we're talking about talking about males you know a guy bud cut you in line in the lunchroom or a guy you know he threw his clothes on the floor not once in five years did he see a fist fight how did where where does that come from is that just because somebody said don't it means there's something happening to a person that's creating a different type of person what's happening to us every time you do a Mitzvah there's some sort of effect and it does it's not visible it's not necessarily visible it's not a visible effect just like when you take vitamins people take vitamins their whole life and we know that a vitamin is having an effect even if you don't see the effect take antibiotics we know it's having an effect you don't feel the effect the you feel the effect guy's coughing takes antibiotics and stops coughing so we don't see the effect we don't we we don't see we feel the effect guy said to me once he put on filling guy here in or he put on filling for the first time he said Rabbi I put on pH for first time I didn't feel anything so what were you expecting to feel like a filling buzz you know we're expecting to feel more or less the same thing as as after after a couple of beers what's sensation were you expecting to feel you if you put it on too tight you're going to feel your hand buzzing cuz you're going to cut off CC circulation your fingers will turn blue that's something ay isn't that that would be good wouldn't it that' be a trick you know there're what you're feeling who says you feel it but in the long to you see that Jew from communities you have some sort of something's happening how else do you explain it doesn't mean everybody's perfect we're not it doesn't mean we're perfect it doesn't mean there aren't those that do get violent doesn't but look at the percentages look at look at look at the percentages benab do you know that benab was a city of over 100,000 people at one point and they still didn't have a police department in Ben Brock put that in any American city the south side of Chicago does not have a police police department and they don't the police are afraid to go in there downtown Detroit doesn't have a police department right they probably burnt it down right I'm assuming right imagine imagine any city in the world any City London doesn't can you imagine and babra they didn't then they brought in a police department for the most part because there was crime coming in from out of babra so so we're not perfect and we're far from perfect on the other hand we're pretty good compared to others where is that effect coming from says the ramal of all the Mitzvah that you do you absorb I I don't like this word spirituality right now you absorb Godly spiritual ity into you from every word of Torah that you study that's the first idea now when you study Torah so Rashi if you notice he says didn't say study Torah what does t include toiling toiling in Torah the answer is severalfold first of all we learned the toos today right we we learned the toos but it takes something to figure it out you're learning a piece of gumar with your Kusa and the two of you are learning and you're trying to figure out what is the gumar saying it's not making sense and you're working at it as you're doing that it's almost like pushing weights you ever lift weights when you lift weights there's resistance and when there's resistance that means something's happening to your muscles there's called for lack of some people have different types of brain resistance but I'm calling it brain resistance in a positive way I'm exercising my brain but I'm exercising my brain with Torah which means my brain is becoming toric my brain is getting Torah trained and when you have a Torah brain you look at things with a Torah brain you look at life with the Torah brain and a Torah brain says to you hey it can't be that the purpose of life is to earn money and accumulate money because people die and then some people leave it to their children to fight over and some people leave it to their wife and her wife's next husband right which is the last thing you want to do right ra rather be broke right guy guy leaves so so what's his name what's his name uh uh uh uh Mr Heins who the who who was the the owner of the Heins ketchup Factory Heins ketchup so he died so who does his wife Mary John KY remember John KY for former Min the the foreign minister of the United States so Mrs Henrietta Heins married John kery so now all that ketchup all that ketchup money is going for his fancy hairdo you know I mean if if Mr Hein knew that he's going to die and his wife's going to marry John car he probably would have eaten mustard right the last thing he would have done is is go is go make ketchup for for for John for for John KY so he could put use he probably used the ketchup as his as his hair cream or something what what that that's what you're living for so person with the Torah brain stops we're rushing through life Sophia have time to think Torah the T Torah brain takes a look and says this is really what it's about this can't be what it's about it can't be what it's about that's the first thing that happens when you toil when you work at Torah it's not just that you're reading a book that's the mistake that's why I told you guys the rambam says when we're studying Torah we don't eat you can drink something drinking is normal to to have aink you don't eat and eat potato chips and and and and peanuts and and what you callot while you're learning Tor you're doing something serious over if you're cutting diamonds you wouldn't be munching on on Doritos while you're cutting diamonds nobody Cuts diamonds and munches on Doritos at the same time the what you call it because it's important to b means that that we have to put the energy into the Torah number one that's the first idea that's what the says number two why does it sayos what's auka can we turn on the it's getting a little warm again let's put that on sorry Mo sorry sorry about yeah it's warm it's why it's boiling hot yeah I see 60 degrees because you got your thing on the uh take it off like the rest of us the uh the the there's something called a does anybody know what a h is statute that is good that's what it's translat translate as a statute and we generally understand the Hoke to be something that is not got a human understanding for example it's a hoke that you can't wear wool and linen shot is can't wear wool and linen it's a hoke uh you can't eat kazer can't eat pork why not everybody does looks pretty good probably tastes good you can't uh it's a hoke it whereas something like Fillin on the one hand we don't know exactly why we're putting on leather boxes but we understand that somehow it's a badge of honor that we understand that speaks to me it's a badge of honor that that shows I'm devoted I've been chosen by God and I'm wearing like like like like you got a metal in the Army right the Army don't they give it they give you a metal it's a badge of honor you get some sort of badge of honor so there are certain things that are laws that don't say don't don't say to make some too much sense us why is Torah called Tor says so Torah study is a h it's a h why is it a h so you know there's a Mitzvah if you how many times you have to review gamor how many times if if you huh no number 100 no number there's no number There's No Limit not only that the gumar itself says two people who are studying Torah one guy reviewed it 100 times s and one guy reviewed it 101 times you can't compare them can't compare the two he reviewed it 100 times he reviewed it 101 times Well I got to tell you something if you review something a 100 times and then you review and another guy reviewed it 101 they're not going you're not going to be they're pretty comparable to me you're not going to be able you're not going to be able to tell much qualitative difference so why is it that they're not comparable the answer is has to do with an attitude if you reviewed it a hundred times there's a sense that okay I'm done I did it 100 times 101 means I'm starting on my next 100 it's a complet it's a complete an indication of an attitude so Torah this is a remarkable thing if you learn Torah and you know Torah you know it already and you review it again you know that every word's a Mitzvah let's read this POS three mitzvas just did three Mitzvah another three Mitzvah now let's do that again I just got another three Mitzvah so did you another three Mitzvah and if you review it a thousand times no matter how well you know it that's a that's a and the H is that that that that every word of Torah that you study every word of Torah that you study is way whether it's whether it's whether it's Mish whether it's g whatever you study is a Mitzvah means you're working at it and it's doing something it's having an effect on the Nish finds and says you know why we have to work at it when you work at something it shows it's important to you when if you work at something I've seen women do cake design like you know there are women who will stay up when they're baking a cake there are women who will stay up till 2:00 in the morning designing a cake perfectly if you work at it that means it's important to you and if you don't work at it like you know if your mother asked you to fold the laundry you know I wonder what that laundry is going to look like when you fold a laundry and your mother folds a laundry it comes out different somehow somehow when she folds it it looks like you know perfect Corner perfect and when you fold it it looks like the theoretical possibility of matter without form why why is that just wasn't that important to you wasn't that important to you but if it's important to you all of a sudden o when it's important I always tell my kids that don't tell me don't tell me you couldn't do it tell me you didn't want to do it tell me that you you you didn't you you didn't have time to do it if it's important to you you will do it and you'll have time to it just wasn't important enough to you which I understand I have no problem with you but tell me the truth don't tell me that you couldn't do it I didn't feel like I and if it's important to you you'll do it and you'll do it well and anything in life that you've ever done and you've done well it's because it's important to you think about that and if you didn't do well you're I don't know about you homework homework was not you know you know the homework was was not that's all let just leave it at that right it was just wasn't that important but I worked on my left-handed dribble that I worked on that was important that was I did that was important right also also what do you call there if if you're if you're making money then you're work at it if it's important enough to you you're going to work at it because you need the money that's what the Torah is telling you number three the word if what what what does mean in Hebrew will walk you will walk you will go exactly correct what does it mean you will go in my statutes and again this is referring to Torah what do you mean you will go connected to Torah cuz is connected to Torah study so what does it mean you will go in Torah what does that mean thing you do it's a way of life you have to walk in it good you live by excellent that's certainly the meaning it's a way of life it's not just a study it's a way of life by the way that answers the question people ask all the time how do you know that you know we've got this tradition from sini all theas maybe they made a mistake along the way you know how do we know that it's all accurate how do we know it's all accurate the answer is and people ask well have't you ever been have you ever a party and they play Broken telephone and it's by the end of the line it doesn't you know you got something completely distorted and the answer to that is simple when you're at a party after a couple of beers and a couple of illegal substances so then playing broken telephone is Trivial and part of thetick is to see how different it could be by the end of the line Tor was say people weren't Whispering it to each other people weren't whispering to how old were you how old were you when you knew what to do at a red [Music] light maybe maybe three if you were slow you were three most people at at you're sitting in the back of your father's car and and driving him nuts when you were two years old red light stop right because you're a precocious youngster that was before you ever read it green light go how did you know that cuz you were living it yellow light Daddy go Mommy stop right you theor you saw what was going on so so so when and even that even the subtleties of life you picked up so so when when you're in a Torah home you know my my grandson we made havdalah last night I have a I have a my grandson is one of them's three he was over and the other one you you pick up the the Hava Flame you know they're like this like every other they have the B everybody smelling the B okay my kid my grandson tries to eat it cuz he's M but but what you called the the the they see what's going on the kids play sha from kids play used to play sha they take a big beach my sons would play SCH on chabas right take a big beach towel and you put it on and one guy he's the kazen and the other guy is the gabbi and the third guy is's the guy who yells at The Gabby right and it always ends with a u they throw candy there the girls played marriage the girls always play they didn't play sh they played marriage somebody somebody's the bride somebody's the groom somebody walks around some I think they walked around each other seven times and somebody had a baby that was always I got confused I couldn't that was a tough game for me I couldn't follow that but where they but they see what's going on in a home you tell a kid don't touch it it's m don't M kid won't touch it you've grow you didn't read it in the book it was lived that's the tradition has been lived from family to family and it's not in one fam but lived across to the Jewish people thousands and thousands and millions of families have lived have lived number one number two you're absolutely right it's a way of life number two if um let's say you have some Fair some spare time one of the definitions listen carefully what I tell you now one of the defition definitions of who you really are as a person is what you do with your discretionary time you have a vacation what do people do on vacation what do people do that tells a lot about you as a person when you're working and you got a job and you're employed so you got to work 8 10 hours a day you come home you eat supper watch TV for two hours go to sleep and you repeat the cycle over and what do you do when you have time off what is it that's what tells who you are means that when it comes to Torah where do your feet take you naturally D said I used to try to head here I would head there yet my feet took me to a Bas medish to study Torah just kind of naturally drifted into a Bas medish where do you go when you've got some free time so guy's end up in a bar got some free time and you just with I don't have any plans today you end up in a bar some guys end up in prison some guys end up in a museum some people end up in a library some people the Torah Jew ends up where do you I got some free time so go to the Bas manag and so wait you know all the books on the Shelf over there look at all those big blue books behind you you got a whole set of sh over here look at all there's plenty to do well you got nothing to do there's no Jewish man never has nothing to do there's always something more to study there's always where do you naturally go you got some time you you're visiting in a new city so what are you what are you going to do in this city City you got to some people want to go sightseeing some people get to a new city let's go find a bemish let's go into a basement and learn that's that your feet should naturally take it to B medes let's see what else um you learn while you travel you ever been on a plane L look like a looks like a flying steel no yeah yeah yeah first a first you have a minion they're always doing always a doing on the planes by the way just just what just on the subject if you're ever on a plane and they're doing first of all you can't assemble a minion on a plane without getting permission from the flight crew it's not that well it's l and we're from and we're going to dve in and I don't care if nobody can get to the bathroom well we're ding it doesn't work that way it's not your house you're in somebody else's domain right now somebody else's Rus you're in a different domain you got to get permission from they'll generally give you permission number one number two the the if you look around the plane you see from guys on the plane you'll notice they have a gamorra there's a what you call they're learning they're saying to Hill him something they're learning they're involved in Torah why what does the Torah say we say inma all the time every day what do we say even when you're travel you study Torah even travel Torah protects us you study Tor even when you travel people on the plane some that be they have a they have a a daff yomi Shear on buses in America guys live in Muny they got to drive into Manhattan on the bus they have what's it what's the the the the the Long Island spread the train what's the train called on the East Coast Long Island Railroad and in one of the railroad cars they have a dfom Shear it's called so not only you're fulfilling the Mitzvah of learning Torah where every word is a Mitzvah not every not only you're fulfilling the Mitzvah but you're also fulfilling the MIT it's a special MIT that while you travel you study Torah now let me ask you a question okay get ready for this tomorrow morning at 6 o' in the morning anybody who gets here at 6 o' in the morning there's going to be a box this box has cash in it $5 bills you will have starting tomorrow from 6:00 24 hours to pull out as many $5 bills as you can starting tomorrow at 6:00 in the morning okay as many $5 bills as you can pull out you get to pull them out Bor I'm only giving an example because if it was really happening I wouldn't share this information with any of you I'd be here myself okay there's a box where you can pull out $5 bills oh time for a commercial by the way um this is just while on tourus study this is now available again this was available it was not I couldn't find it on my computer how helping your son succeed in gamorra for those who struggle parents who struggle with their kids with gamar learning in the day schools and in the yeshivas so there is a uh several pages of how to help your son this is available for $12 if anybody's interested at pay and through PayPal at dbap doovid b as in baseball basketball badminton busted bridges of Baltimore Kaplan K Lan if anybody's interested and this is something that parents grapple with all the time with with helping your sons in gamor so this is a very very helpful what do you call and of course we have the sh question questionnaire is also available now the 5:00 6:00 in the morning there are $5 machine with $5 bills what time do you think you'd be at that door door opens at 6 what time do you think you'd be standing by that door huh 1:00 1:00 in the morning right they'd be lining up Black Friday they'd be lining up right and they be lining up waiting to wait okay number one what what would you do to wake up what time would you get up what's the latest you'd get up for that latest you'd get up no not later than 5:00 in the morning I want to get up and I want to get wired I'm going to have coffee energy drink whatever it takes okay now you got 24 hours to pull $5 bills out of the machine you're waiting perched over the machine I say okay go what do you think your hands will would look like you be pulling out now your hands at a certain point after 20 minutes your hands starting to get tired right that's what you bring so what would you do I would I would rest one hand i' pull with the other hand and then I would rest this one and pull this and then I start pulling again with two hands now what happens if all of a sudden while this is happening your phone rings screw the phone I I wouldn't put it in those terms exactly but yes my my phone my phone rang it can't how important could it possibly yeah but it might be your friend for the other Yeshiva yeah well it might also be the president of the United States and you know what I couldn't care less right and you'd be pulling away yeah but it might be your mother she always wanted me to do well financially right you know and what you know whatever yeah my mother always said I'd come out on top and I did the the wedd and so you was where to go so you're you're pulling away you're pulling away pulling pull pulling away now what happens you you're starting to get hungry what would food look like guys uh alen give me some food will you uh what would like doesn't matter right well well you want mil it doesn't matter okay and got you understand what I'm saying and you how long would you do it for what would sleep look like that night what does sleep normally look like well sleep's elaborate preparations it's you something we got to practice and get good at you know sleeping and got to touch every part of the bed and you got to you know really get got kind of kind of sleep like a all of a sudden sleep would be like this that's what it look like Okay the reason I'm telling you this is that you've heard stories about gdolim the styler Rim kvki Rabin used to sleep two hours a night and learn Torah around the clock and people are say why what what's a hack what's the big deal with all that Torah learning the answer is that if you valued Torah as much every word of Torah and you only we have more than 24 hours you got a lifetime but eventually the time ends if you feel the urgency towards Torah the same way that you feel the urgency towards the $5 bill and you see that a lifetime is limited 70 years 80 years 90 years whatever it is there's a limit the same way there's a 24-hour limit so then a person feels at urgency would that's how that's how they would deal with them with Torah okay what else um how many of you guys have ever slaughtered have ever brought a sacrifice in the base of me anybody or brought a sacrifice in b mdash not yet not yet not yet I actually had a rabbi who was on he was at the uh he was at the Western Wall he was at the kisil and a non-jewish tourist came up to him I think she was from Sweden she looks at him she goes uh you're you're a rabbi aren't you he goes yeah can I ask you a question uh this is this is the site where the temple stood once isn't it I think it was on Tish abov I think it was on a Tish said this is a site the temple stood is it he goes yeah he goes can I say a question are there going to be sacrifices here today so he said to her as of right now no but maybe later today right that was the the positive attitude then there was another tourist who that was I don't know if that was on Tish there was another group that Tish you know got at the coal an Tish there are hundreds of people there and they're saying the kenos you know the mourning for the Bas of mos and they're all crying so this non-jewish tourist saw a rabbi over there she goes uh why are all the people crying here goes well you know 2000 we had a temple standing here and the temple was destroyed goes ah they didn't have insurance huh that was the that was the reaction they didn't have insurance so if you haven't brought coronos I haven't brought a corbon but you could you know how if you study the gar says if you study the section of the Torah that talks about the coros then it's as if you brought a Corban that's if you follow my statutes if you learn Torah then you will keep the it will be counted as if you've done the Mitzvah so by doing by studying the laws if you study the laws then you get the credit as if you kept the laws okay and so on and so forth now let's go on for a second what'll be if we do it you will have your reain in the proper season that means if we're good Jews and we keep the Torah we do what we have to do so look at what were the benefits you get your rain at its proper time the Earth will give its yield its produce and the the Trees of the field will produce their fruit you will have tremendous amount of produce you'll eat your bread to sa there will be peace in the land you'll be able to go to sleep at night and not be nervous about missiles and about anybody invading there won't be any wild animals and there won't you won't have any sword enemies and so on and so forth so the Torah goes and describes all of the benefits that'll be if we study Torah and we keep the Mitzvah these are all the benefits we're going to have now anybody got a problem with this throughout the history we were not quite that's true throughout history we were not quite right that we that we had our periods but for there were many times where the Jewish people were not loyal to Torah okay what else but there were periods where yes but there's something fundamental should bother you about this um it's only saying physical reward excellent excellent excellent why is the Torah we know that the ultimate reward is in the world to come now the older reward is not a physical reward the older reward is a spiritual reward I told you example of a spiritual reward there is spiritual joy in life which I think I mentioned to the group on Thursday Reggie Jackson you've heard of Reggie Jackson okay Reggie Jackson played for New York Yankees and Reggie Jackson once said there is no greater pleasure in life than hitting a home run now what happens when you hit a home run there's no physical pleasure here he's not talking about the crunch of the ball from the bat he's talking about the fact that you hit the Home Run you run around the bases and 50,000 50,000 intelligent New Yorkers scream your name that's There's No Greater Joy and an actor who comes out and gets an Academy Award and everybody's everybody or a performer and everybody claps they applaud you at that moment walk up to the person and say I'll trade you this I'll give you a I'll give you a steak and fries in exchange for this no one would do it why because that's not a physical pleasure it's not a tangible physical pleasure anytime time you've seen uh e even something even something as silly as your sports team winning and whether if you're a sports fan you like that that there's something enjoyable is that a physical pleasure if you see a friend you haven't seen for a while and you're really happy to see him cuz he owes you money right and you're really happy to see him that's not a physical pleasure I told you a story this guy this Irish guy this Irish guy calls up a friend of his he says Hey Jake you know we're having our 50 wedding anniversary you're invited to come celebrate with us so he says okay he says okay listen where do you live he said he gives them the address he says when you get downstairs there's an elevator so you got to hit the hit the button with your elbow that'll open the elevator doors and use your other elbow to push the button on the fourth floor when you get to my house kind of kick the door with your feet knock on the door with you use your foot to knock on the door so he says what what you know why do I got to use my elbows and my feet it up like your hands going to be filled with gifts and you know you're not going to have your hand AR going to be available so so the the what do you call the the the the the uh uh how I get on to this what are we talking about physicality yes the physical baseball right what do you call seeing an old friend you see an old you saw say wow even love the love of a parent to a child your child did something clever wow you know he hit a white socks fan I'm so proud of him it gives you it gives you Joy it fills you fills your heart with gladness it's not a physical pleasure so hoodie's asking a great question the Torah we know that not only that there's a statement in the gar there is no reward for Mitzvah in this world you don't get rewarded for Mitzvah in this world so why does the Torah talk about physical rewards the Torah talks about you keep the mitzah you have produce you have do you have that everything but it's all it's all physical it's not it's not why why does the Torah put the reward in phys terms of the physical not anybody got an idea what do you say sh one one would not betiv if the reward excellent excellent one answer there are several answers here we're going to analyze several one answer is that as human beings at the end of the day I tell you a statement yeah I'll tell you incredible statement the goar makes the goar says that somebody who gets angry will suffer all sorts of gehenna going to be all sorts of punishment in in in in in uh in purgatory in hell for his anger and not only that it brings on hemorrhoids that's a statement in the gamorra okay now I want to ask a question as bad as hemorrhoids are which is worse hemorrhoids or Eternal damnation Eternal damnation okay so when you're emphasizing something I mean if you tell a guy imagine sentencing a guy a guy committed a crime in America you say to this guy listen listen you're going to prison for 30 years and uh you know what else no more pizza and I got news for you I got going to prison for 30 years at that point no more Pizza is pretty trivial to him I could understand saying you know it's like when your father punished you let's say you got go you got nailed you got a a speeding ticket that was always the cardinal sin right okay first of all first of all you're docked for two two weeks no car for two weeks second of all you're going to prison it would be an upgrade you upgrade a punishment you'll say well first of all uh uh no dessert second of all no car that I understand if your father says to you no car for two weeks and no dessert by that point who cares about dessert I'm just so upset about no car so yeah which is worse physical pain or spiritual pain in the world to come eternal spirit spiritual pain obviously so why would the gor upgrade the gor says well if you get angry you get him and on top of that you're going to have hemorrhoids in this world I mean listen once there's gam you know the answer is exactly what chai is saying which one really affects a person mer mo more that we understand that there's some sort of abstract spiritual reward and punishment but what becomes the real what becomes the real what do you call it they knowing knowing their physical consequences has lot you know that Z was on his deathbed and his came to him they said like give us a re give us a you know the was he said you should fear God as much as you fear man they said that's it he said listen when a person avoids doing an AA he does an AA because uh oh somebody sees me with God I'll work it out with God you know I'm hungry it's a cheeseburger God created me me and God are like this you know oh I'll rationalize it when if somebody else sees me then I oh then I'm all sudden on my best behavior say exactly number answer number one is that the physical reward physical benefits will motivate us that's answer number one answers two three and four we'll see tomorrow say thank you so