Rabbi Reuven Lauffer - Basic Judaism: Separating Items on Shabbat

we're going to talk about something called today it's a dimension of shabbos one of the lama test malacca we're not going to go through all the lamin tests but there are certain of them that are very central very important the reason why borah is so important is because it's got a very practical ramification with regards to eating food on shabbos of separating something from another thing in order to be able to eat it you know what we'll see later on not just eating things it's got to do with other things as well hilkinsburg there is an indian on shabbos where you're not supposed to separate one thing from another thing especially if one of the things is something that you don't want it's gonna have ramifications not just for food it's gonna have ramifications for you know clearing things up and putting things away and uh but we'll start off with food because that's the that's for sure the most important most central indian over here so let's say for example you've got a plate of food and you've got food on your plate and you've got bits of you've got bits of something which is not food so for example you've got chicken on the bone um here in israel they actually sell bones with bits of chicken on it um you might have fish with bones in it uh here in israel of course they have bones with bits of fish on it um you might have watermelon with pits in it what have we got we've got the onion of butter you've got food on your plate and there are bits and pieces inside of the food that are not edible so again you know bits of meat that have gristle inside of them the chicken on the bone the fish fish with bones inside of it all that kind of stuff what how how can you separate one from the other so it's possible to separate the food but there are two conditions first of all you need to separate it without using a special utensil to do it and you have to separate it with the knowledge that you're going to eat it immediately we'll talk about immediately in a moment what that means halachically but it's not something you know you can't decide for example here you know i'll give you an example you've got an egg a hard-boiled egg with a shell on it the shell is what's known as persolus it's something which can't be eaten um and the the egg is what you're interested in if you want to shell the egg i don't know you know in the morning to be able to eat it in the afternoon that would be forbidden to do on shabbos if you want to eat your egg you want you want to have the egg now in this meal coming up that's okay right so you can peel it with your hands and you can have the egg ready to be eaten almost immediately again we'll talk about that in a moment uh but if you want to have the egg let's say for the third meal on shabbos and you want to peel on a shabbos morning because you want to get yourself ready uh that's something that you shouldn't be doing that already is a problem what what does it mean when it says immediately right now obviously we're talking halachicki over here because everyone here in this room understands what immediately means right immediately it means right now however according to the locker immediately means it's the the lotion of the of the chocolate is which means it should happen now and that means that it doesn't mean like within a few seconds having done it it's not like you've got somebody peeling an egg in the kitchen and then you've got to rush it into the dining room you know otherwise it'll be too late but rather within a you know within a certain amount of time that it's going to be eaten bless you this week did i get it right how do you say it this way i just said this way what's the difference wait there's an at the beginning add this you know what by the time i get this right it'll be the summer and you'll stop sneezing yes if you peel the egg and your intention was to eat it immediately yeah and uh and one bite in the egg you're like i really don't feel like eating this can you save it for later yeah for sure first of all one once you've taken a bite out of it then you you know you've done whatever whatever you set out to do you've done uh if your intention is to eat the egg and then you know as it's sitting there on your plate you think yourself i don't really want this um maybe i'll you know i'll have it later on then that would also be okay but not something that you should plan to do it's what's called bidired right which means that you know as you were peeling the egg your intention was to eat it now it didn't work out for whatever the reason you maybe you forgot about it or you know again you saw it and you didn't have a great desire to eat it at that moment then that's okay you can eat it later on yeah there's a pack of busy that you can get where basically it's half busy in half bamboo let's say you put it in a bowl and you don't want the bamboo oh we'll talk about it hold on a second we'll talk about different kinds of foods um not you know in a moment because bora is going to have repercussions also for foods not just food and something which can't be eaten right so for example chicken and and bones or the egg and the shell it's also going to have a repercussion for two different kinds of food one kind of food that you do want and one kind of food that you don't want right now we will we will talk about it um the la alta means normal preparation time for a meal right which means i don't know you know whatever you maybe half an hour before lunch begins then that's when things start getting prepared in order you know the salads get put out all that kind of stuff at that point it would be permissible to prepare whatever needs to be prepared you'll be able to shell your egg and you'll be able to get rid of you know get put it out on the table a little bit later on that's okay what shouldn't be done again is that there shouldn't be a big gap commissioner brewer actually writes that uh you know he writes like this that you shouldn't you shouldn't start preparing the shabbos meal in the morning until davening is over right so you know we gotta however long it takes to get home and get going probably i would say about a half an hour is definitely within the realms of reason right you can show your eggs within a half an hour from the time that you want to get going um more than that i think is probably probably not okay however you need you need to again you've got to you've got to be honest about what you're doing over here which means that uh it's not it's not okay to prepare the meal let's say for example you're going to prepare the meal and then you're going to go off to your neighbor's making a kiddish right so you want you have to go in and you have to say mazel tov so that point that's already considered to be a break you can't prepare go off to the kiddish and then come back right which means that you can prepare all the bits and pieces that can be prepared without getting involved in the halakha but if you've got things that are going to require separating what's called the food from the you know the oil from the toilets the food from the non-edible stuff then you've got to you should you should do that when you come back from the kiddish and not before you go to the kiddush a lot of blank faces out there okay whatever um did you do before and not after the kiddos no we'll try that one again you should do it after and not before however if you prepare the meal you know you get everything ready and then you suddenly remember oh hold on a second my neighbor's making a kiddish and i have to go in and say muslim talk then that's okay right there's no there's no problem with eating the food that's been prepared even though you made a break between the two are you talking about so over here the emma says that it really is the katrina because when you set about to prepare everything you forgotten all about the kiddush right it's only after you were done that you suddenly remembered that you're going to have to go to the kiddish and if you start your suitor there's no way you're going to be able to get there then at that point it's okay to go to the kiddush and come back again and it's okay to eat the food that's 100 okay are you saying that basically the situation of this body let's say you you basically have to take the second you put your food down you have to eat no no but you've got to eat it within a reasonable amount of time for example you can't let's say i come home right i come home from shore and and there's kiddush on the table biscuits cakes whatever yeah at the same time the table is set yeah what's the situation there so i think i think again if you're planning on eating pretty much after you finish you're going to make kiddish and then you're going to start your food your soda so you're going to have that you know a piece of cake and then you're going to make your broccoli and you're going to wait whatever you know just like 10 minutes or 15 minutes until you start the meal then i think that's okay if you're going to be waiting longer than that then it's better to prepare the foods that have a problem of boiler it's better to prepare them afterwards rather than before so what's a what's what's the problem with boiler what would you say that those kind of foods off here again and anything anything that you're separating what you're separating food from something which is not edible so for example you're making avocado avocado but other cardio see the way to peel avocado without it being a problem is to leave some of the avocado on the skin right once you've done that it's a lot less problematic an egg is a bet an egg is a better example because when you take off the peel you're taking off the whole peel from the egg normally the egg is left whole right so if you're talking about something like what about fruit right here another example you're making chicken salad right and you're going to take the chicken off the bone in order to put it into the salad so over there if you're going to if there's going to be a big gap over there you should wait yeah right then you shouldn't uh you should do it closer to the meal rather than earlier on yeah what if you don't want to eat the egg yolk because that's questionable hey we're going to talk about foods food within food right what are you going to do when you've got two different kinds of food one of them you want one of them you don't want which is going to include egg white and egg yolk although according to research that's coming out now apparently eggs are not as bad for you as they originally thought that they were um that's just one of those you know these things come in in fads right so now you'll start eating massive egg yolks and then you know in 10 years time they'll tell you that yolks are terrible and then you'll be sorry that you ever ate them yeah um are we going to get into uh discussions about tools like hands and forks and like water are they discussed as tools say that again are we going to talk about tools yeah like um like a hand has like a certain designation in terms of wake tool and fork oh i think they're like electric drills and and you know hammers yeah are those appropriate trees it depends on how it really depends on how tough the kafil fish is i think i i have on on many occasions especially when i was a boker in yeshua you know trying to trying to cut through yeshiva schnitzel with plastic knife and forks was a it was it was a production what can i tell you you know bits of bits of forks you know would go flying everywhere and they have to try and find another one i once went to america for a meal friday night i went through five nights and forks because you should have tried eating the food instead really yeah oh delicious delicious fork thank you can i have another one oh good okay what about sardines don't tell me anybody eat sardines that's ridiculous moisha what century are you living in come on cut it out we'll talk we'll talk about the problems of opening up cans and what you can do and what you can't do oh i guess pun intended i guess right uh what you can do and what you can can not do well i think i'll do that again actually what you can do and what you cannot no no you have to have a break so i think it's coming to can but what you can't never mind okay i normally just make them appear out of thin air sardines yeah pretty much anything what a waste what a waste of talent you know what you remind me of there's a very famous joke they tell about a russian who's walking down the street completely drunk you know i'm in the middle of nowhere siberia somewhere it does remind me and uh and he he finds that he finds a bottle so he opens up the bottle thinking there's a drink and a genie comes flying out and the genie says to him okay he says i'll give you two wishes whatever you want so the guys think he says uh i want a bottle of vodka that never finishes so the genie says uh okay here it is it's all yours and there's a bottle over there and the genie says what else do you want and the fellows think he says i don't know he says this is really all i've ever wanted he says can i think about it so the genie says no problem he says i'll come back in a week and you can decide what you want anyway all week he's drinking this vodka fossil that never ends and the genie comes back after a week and this guy's completely drunk absolutely and the judy says to him what do you want you've got to make up your mind he says you know what he says i'll have another bottle just like this that cannot possibly be me because i only drink whiskey well played daniel i think you're being i think you're being a little inflexible over here that's what i think my mother had an uncle who used to start off every morning with a tumbler of whiskey not a shot a cup of whiskey that's how he started his day and you can imagine i only went downhill from there and uh on pesach he used to suffer terribly because on pacer can't drink whiskey so my uncle when he came back he was he was learning in yeshiva mantra in switzerland and he came back with a bottle of sliver bits now sliver bits is plum brandy it's like one one million percent proof it comes in reinforced glass bottles because otherwise this thing will crack you you can you can run your car on it and you don't have to write down slides you'll be able to remember that won't you anyway they all spent pesach together they're in some hotels somewhere and my mother said the first morning of pesach the whole hotel was woken up by these fellows screaming he's trying to kill me i'm gonna die because he'd taken his regular amount of whiskey and he just used sliverlets instead which is at least twice as potent as whiskey is and uh apparently it didn't settle very well anyway why why am i telling you this but because obviously this fits in very neatly with hillcrest borough and if you've had a a tumblr full of sliver bits then you'll also understand why it fits into hospital but if you want then you probably won't realize what the connection is okay uh we're gonna we're gonna carry on over here um what if you've got two different kinds of foods that you want to eat two different kinds of foods you want to eat one of them you don't want to eat the other ones so you're talking about what it what is it there's bamboo packet yes half busy and half bamboo and if you eat anyone the business half busley and half bamboos so first of all i would suggest that it's probably economically sounder to buy a packet of bisley than to buy a packet of half bisley and half bamboo you've got you've got two different kinds of food stuffs um either bisley and bamba that are mixed together or nuts and raisins that are mixed together what do people eat in texas what what's cake or you've got steak and steak they can steak mix together um what do you do to bambi what do you what do you do what do you do with something like that right so even though they are both edible right whether it's nuts and raisins or looking around the room whether it's just a mixture of various nuts um the the uh whether it's bamboo and bisley whatever it is right the problem is one of them you don't want to eat and the other one you do then at that point the one that you do not want to eat is now classified as being per solid it's got exactly the same classification as the bones on the chicken or the peel the the shell around the egg and you've got to be careful how you're going to take whichever one you want to whichever one you want to eat right um one second does that affect the rest of people eating that particular no not at all quite the opposite actually which means if you've got somebody who you you want to eat the busily and they want to eat the bamboo then you're both eating the things that you want to eat that's not a problem at all the problem for you is the bamba and the problem for them is the bisley can can you change your mind only if you have one you're like yes you can change your mind okay you definitely can um and for example if you ate the bisley and decided that you didn't want to eat the visibly you can change your mind about that as well so what does that mean um first of all if you want both of them but you want to eat one of them first right so let's say for example you are a busily fiend but if there are no busilies left then you will lower yourself to eat bamba as well no then no then then if the answer is really no then you should not be buying this stuff you really shouldn't thank you absolutely ridiculous right um but if you've got you know nuts and raisins whatever it is it doesn't make any difference but you you want one of them you want to eat first but you're going to eat the second one afterwards then that's not called buyer anymore that's okay you can take out the bits that you want without being the least bit concerned about whatever else is there and you can separate them right with your hands you can say here i'm going to put the raisins over here and i'm going to put the nuts over and i'm going to eat the nuts first and then i'm going to eat the raisins afterwards um very often you know kids do that very often they like you know they separate their food into bits and pieces i used to separate my food as well when i was a kid and just didn't eat the bits i didn't want whatever okay but you're allowed to do it slow again as long as you do it in the in that lock of the bow that we just learned before which means that you're going to eat it almost immediately and you're not going to use a special kind of a utensil in order to separate things right so for example you know you've got you've got i'm trying to think of an example that would that would be okay but you've got let's say you've got something in a liquid and you want the the something that's in the liquid is going to be taken out you know you've got spoons that have holes in them right uh in order to be able to drain out liquid it would be a problem to use that on shabbos you can stick your hand in there and you can take it out right um but you should not be using something that's going to a utensil that's been made especially to make some kind of a separation between things yeah so i think like a colander maybe a sieve um you know something with holes in it that's going to separate the bigger things from the smaller things uh that that that kind of thing would be a problem um i'm trying to think again if you've got a slotted spoon a slotted spoon right a slotted spoon we'll talk about that in a minute you know what what do you do when you've got things that you want from the soup and things that you don't want from the soup um things that you want from the challenge things you don't want from the challenge right but yeah if you've got a slotted spoon would be a good example right which means that you're not interested in the uh you want i don't know you want to pick out the canadian look from the soup right and you don't want the soup itself using a slotted spoon which is a spoon that's got lines in it that will allow the liquid to drain out in order for you to pick out the you know the vegetables or to pick out the uh the canada if you're not going to eat the soup is a problem taking a ladle and just taking out a canada which and it's going to come out by definition it's going to come out with some of the soup that's okay right but taking some kind of utensil which is going to make all the liquid drain out and leave you just with that piece that's a problem on i'm just wondering if you're pretty sure your hosts aren't looking can you can you use your hand and like for what for what to pick out um from like a i think if your hosts aren't watching you can really do whatever you want actually but like um is it is it the correct thing to do i think probably not just for halal yeah i don't know i mean spreading salmonella to the rest of the family is probably not the best way to get invited back again i had a i had a friend you noticed in the past past tense i had a friend once um i'm not going to tell you his name so you can't go to him to verify with whether he went he went around he went around to a friend's house he went around to somebody's house on shabbos with a friend of his this is not something i recommend doing i really don't and his friend at the end he didn't know but his friend put a spoon it was it was in the summer he'd taken off his jacket and he hung it you know on the back of the of the chair and he didn't know but his friend had taken a spoon and put it in his pocket and you know they get up say thank you they finished benching they put on his jacket to go and as they're about to walk out of the door his friend says excuse me one minute and he starts patting him down and pulls his spoon out of his pocket and he says he says to his house he said i'm terribly sorry he says he's always doing this you know and and uh you know my friend is somebody who is never ever lost for words and he said he just he did not know what to do with himself he was so embarrassed so i don't it's not something i recommend that you do but if you do do it it's pretty funny okay um what's that just because we were talking about spoons i thought i'd uh slot that one in thank you um no no that was yesterday's joke if you want to see him laugh about today's joke you're gonna have to come back tomorrow that's uh oh there is no tomorrow oh there is tomorrow yes for sure okay anyway um anyway so if you've got foods there that you want to eat and you are going to eat them it's no problem to separate them there's no problem to make two different piles so long as you're going to eat but the other one almost immediately after you've finished the first pile okay again boira we're back to the same things that we spoke about before um if you're going to you've got nuts and raisins in your bowl and you want the nuts now and you want the raisins for shallow shooters that's a problem which means that you can pull the nuts out and eat them one by one but to pull them out and start separating and making different piles because the raisins you're going to have much later on that's a problem of boiler and that's something that you should not be doing um bora is not just food related it's really related to all kinds of things as well it's really related huh if you play a game on shabbos right which for some of you is probably going to be an uphill struggle because it really requires somebody else to play with um which requires some kind of some kind of a relationship of some kind um so maybe we should just skip over this particular because i don't see any practical uh application to it friend friends okay uh for those of you and this is really people are falling down by the wayside over here there's nobody left for this halacha to be addressed to because you either need a friend to do it with or if you're not studying which discounts almost everybody right but it's here on the list so i'm going to say it anyway games normally come you know split up into different bits you've got the cards in one place and you've got the little pieces in another place if you've got some games have lots of pieces to them it's a problem after you've finished the game if you're not going to play again it's a problem to put everything back neatly inside of the box right which means like this um i don't know what game has got lots of pieces choose whichever game appeals to your uh rummy card okay uh pl everyone everyone should choose their own game quietly uh please and uh solitaire the the uh snap the the uh what's the problem the problem is once you finish playing a monopoly right once you finish playing monopoly there's a whole bunch of card different kinds of cards there are you know uh what there are risk and there are chants and they're all different am i doing this right risk is risk no it's the only problems i'm ever going to give you yeah risk thank you no okay i retract that okay good ah um it doesn't matter you after you finish the game you can't separate all the bits and put them into little compartments that's a problem with boron shabbos you can if you're going to start another game again right so if you play the game and you want to play it again and uh you know then that's okay that's okay to sort everything out and get it into the right place otherwise you should just put them all uh just but just pour it all into the box and on once each other's you can sort it all out if you wish to um what what's the you know it's got a all kinds of repercussions over here a kid's playroom you know kids like there's good toys by the end of the show it's afternoon are strewn all over the place asking it's a kid to clean up the room it's a problem i mean again being a youngest child if you ask me to clean up the room that's a problem in and of itself right it's beyond it's beyond my comprehension but in general asking a kid to clean up the room and take all the bits and pieces and put them where they go it's a problem the only way that it's possible to do it is to do it toy by toy right you can pick up just pick up a toy from the floor and that toy can then be put away wherever it goes and then go back and pick up another toy and put that wherever that goes but not collecting up i don't know all the trucks and then collecting up all the uh you know all the all the knuckle dusters and then collecting up all the mace sprays and and that kind of thing because that's not you know that's a problem of boiler i'm also not quite sure why your kids will be playing with these things to begin with but whatever how can you put things back you can put them back one by one but you can't collect up different kinds that are all the same right so again you can't can't tell your kid go pick up all the trucks and put them back in the in the truck box right uh what you but the kid can walk around the room and pick up one by one and go and put it in the in the truck box and then come back and pick up pick up the next thing and if it's a truck and go on the truck box if it's not a if it's not a truck it should go into a different kind of box instead how do you tell your kit to clean up on travis i mean personally i don't bother yes okay your wife does then i guess no no i i'm a very firm believer they're only going to play with these things again so you know let them just plain let them wallow in their own mess from week to week that's what i say uh no what what's the chat again how do you how do you get your kids to clean up so they need to be taught on travis how do you tell them to clean up oh well you come in with your whip and uh you really shouldn't have to tell them anything you know they should realize that oh look daddy's here we need to clean up the uh why are you looking like that before i'm just admiring my parental technique sure i don't know why they don't let me give classes on education over here i really don't i really don't know very very strange um the the uh no it might i mean in my house you know i always tell my kids right if you don't want to know the answer don't ask the question that seems to be like a very very basic rule of thumb that children should be taught you know like my kid will come in and say you know danny do i have to go to sleep and i'll say oh my gosh you know it's 11 30 at night and mommy said you were supposed to go to bed at 9 30 and yeah you have to go to sleep and he'll say if you don't want to hear the question don't you don't hear the answer answer the question and then he'll start screaming and crying i don't want to go to sleep so i tell him i think you're a you're a complete and absolute blithering because if you what did you ask the question for if you didn't want it if you didn't want to hear what the answer was why did you ask that didn't seem to calm them down very much for some reason i don't know why anyway we have a we have a very a very simple uh a very simple bedtime method in my home especially if my wife is not home is that they can stay up until they hear the key in the door and then they have to go whizzing into their beds and pretend to be asleep that's how we do it in my house that works pretty well anyway you've got to you've got to teach children before shabbos you have to teach children the concepts of boiler you have to teach them how it's okay to how it's okay to clear up the toys how it's not okay to clear up the toys oh okay though yeah yeah okay so that at that point then you know maybe it's better to wait until after shabbos and either do it yourself or uh or have them do it on sunday if it's too late or something i don't see i'm not quite sure the kids too young to be able to understand that they should not be gathering together so yeah just say clean up you don't have to say you know clean up the cars clean up this no just clean up yeah you know you won't have a problem about you won't have any problem at all because they won't do it no am i missing something do you i forgot you're from switzerland right your children are probably well brought up and uh yes and very well behaved i'm sure although you're not you're married to an american though made of chocolate yes so there go there go the jeans finished okay finished finished um okay um what do you do if you've got something in front of you and you're only interested in one of the things but the a bowl of soup right soup has got chicken in it it's got vegetables in it but right now you just want the soup but you and you and you don't want it you're not going to eat the vegetables right now however you will eat the vegetables or you will eat the chicken afterwards some people like to eat the chicken from the soup you know after bold chicken um so that's okay right it's okay to use it's even though there there is a disagreement amongst amongst the various authorities but it is according to rama yashev it is okay to take the soup and leave the vegetables and the chicken behind drink the soup and then eat the vegetables and the chicken afterwards that's okay even though it's separating food from food nevertheless ravi yashi says because you're planning to eat it then it's okay to do that if you're not planning to eat it if you're not planning anything it's a problem so you can't have to look with itself say it again so you can't have the liquid by itself you can't have the liquid by itself you've got to you've got to be sure that you're taking some of whatever it is together with it right so for example i mean again you know it's pretty hard to spoon soup which is like you know soup with lots of vegetables in it it's pretty hard to spoon just the liquid into the soup i'll try that again even though i don't think anybody really cared that what i said made no sense whatsoever it's pretty hard to to ladle out only the liquid from the soup and not have any of the bits and the pieces once you've got some of the bits and pieces that's okay um then there's there's not a problem of boire if you again if you're planning on eating it afterwards then it's not a problem you can have the soup and you can have the chicken from the soup afterwards and that is absolutely fine um what do you do again interesting just an interesting dimension of butter over here what do you do when you've got a plate with two different kinds of food on them or maybe even the same kind of food that's been cooked in two different ways it's like fish and salmon pudding it's kicking pizza let's say fish cake and salmon or even salmon that's been boiled and salmon that's been that's been broiled boiled and broiled you know what the difference is between the two no yes and r the only difference is in our one is boiled and the other's got broiled it's grill grilled right you can have boiled salmon you can have grilled salmon right like halachically boiled salmon and grilled salmon are considered two different foods even though they're both salmon right what do you do over there you're interested in the grilled salmon you don't want the boiled salmon you're interested in the bold salmon you don't want the grilled salmon if you separate them that's a problem of boiler what do you do you have to take from the plate whatever you want without making an active separation um it was just you know thrown all just thrown onto the plate together and you can choose whatever you want if you've got a plate where things are separated up into different piles that you've got on your plate you've got a pile of of boiled salmon or pile and a and a plate of grilled salmon uh and you've got a plate you know maybe there's also fish cakes there as well right then at that point that's not a pro that's not considered to be a problem and each one is obvious that it belongs in its own pile even if they're touching each other and then there's no problem over there there's no indian of of buret at all um does anybody have any questions because this would be a good moment to ask them because i think we've kind of come to the end of borough so what's more i would tell you but uh it's too complicated to give over here in this class yes thank you is there a common utensil when there are in the example of the boiled embroidery um are the account the serving utensil can they can is it interchangeable or it does are they separate are there two utensils i don't think it makes any difference actually um which means so long as it's fish and fish or it's meat and meat and just not fish and meat together then i don't think it makes any difference whatsoever for the boy whether you're using the same the same serving piece to pick up one piece or pick up the other piece i don't think it makes any difference at all okay so it's like one of these awkward silences hey why did we read the toy report well because if you separate the edible from the non-edible he said this is time to ask questions oh sorry why do we why do we read the torah portion on shabbat so the embassy is like this we read the torah portion three times a week right on shabbat and on monday and thursday that gomorrah says a lot of emotion me sinai in order to stop there from being a more than three days when the torah is not read why do we read more on shabbat than we do during the week is simply because there's more time there's more time in showers to be involved in spiritual pursuits and you know listening listening to the torah portion is something which is you know a very a very spiritual dimension it's a very important dimension of the shabbos davening and that's why we we read much more than we do during the week interestingly enough i think we spoke about this once there was a difference in customs between babylon babylon babylonia and eritsel in babylonia they had the custom to finish up the torah reading in a year the cycle was one year like we have today in eritrea it took three years to finish up the torah cycle and that meant that they were reading a lot less each week than we are than we read today was it sort of even monday thursday shabbat or was it more on us if oh no it was always going to be more on shabbos than there is during the mondays and thursdays uh the gemara talks about you know how what's the minimum that needs to be read in order to fill the obligation to read on monday and thursday but chavez always had a longer torah reading than uh than it would have during during the middle of the week tomorrow we'll uh maybe we'll talk about preparing preparing food um you know different ways of preparing food if you've got to prepare things like salads and egg salad depends on the traffic okay okay you