Kosher Milk & Chalav Yisrael - Rabbi Shlomo Cohen

[Music] let's talk this time about milk about milk and cheese what can go wrong with milk a natural product comes straight from the cow what can be the problem yet anyone who's familiar with with it with her sharing knows that you have products is written off on them I love akhom halav affirm that it's the milks Jewish milk and non-jewish milk what does it mean what's the problem here what is non-jewish milk what is Kyle a vacuum as long as you know that there's nothing added to the milk apart from water there's not really any problems of kashwood with milk the problem that can come up with milk is that we have a rule in castle that anything that comes from a kosher animal is kosher why does anything that comes from a non kosher animal is not kosher so the milk of non kosher animals the milk of a pig of a camel of a horse all these animals milks are traif they also for us to drink just like the animal itself we're all allowed to eat so also the same thing with its milk how do we know that the milk that we're drinking is the milk of a cow and not the milk of a pig do we need the extra for that we need to know we need to know that it's not pigs milk but everyone asks a very big question that the question begs to be answered today in our modern world no one shells pigs milk even if they wanted to sell it and people wanted to buy it you wouldn't be allowed to it doesn't have the the the the stamp of all the Health Organization's all the milk that we buy is pure cow's milk needs to say on the packet that is cow's milk yeah but once it says on the package or on the bottle that it's cow's milk you can rely on that wine because any shop owned or any any any milk er any farmer would be crazy to mix up some other milk in his cow's milk because he'll lose his license if they give the health authorities catch him they'll make him pay tremendous fine and they'll put him out of business and this guy is just there for business so he has a tremendous incentive to not mix anything else in his milk apart from pure cow's milk so if so I know that the milk I'm buying if I'm in a country that we have - of course this it makes a kid it makes a big difference where you are if you're in a country where there are controls over the milk where the government is controlling the milk and checking the milk and the health authorities are checking the milk and only cow's milk is being is being sold or it certainly if it says on the packet that it's cows and look it has to be 100% cow's milk without any other milk mixed in so you know that this is kosher milk so what's the problem we have a rule in all cases of witness the way you know something it's as if you saw it right it says in the Torah that a witness has to either see or know or a yeah de knowledge is like seeing it once you know something it's as if you saw it the example in in the ocean mishpokhe in in in managers monetary law there the Gemara talks about a case of two people that went into a closed room and there's no windows here no one knows knows what happened in there and one of them comes out damaged and he says the other guy did this to me he broke my arm or he may he caused me this dur this wound on my arm and the other guy denies it so is the fact that we saw the two of these two these two guys going into the room alone and we saw that when this guy went into the room he did have any wounds and he came out of the room with a wound so is that enough proof to make the other guy pay for the damages when he contradicts as he says no I didn't do that he did it to himself seeing it as a possibility that he did it to himself so you can't baitin cannot make him make the other guy pay on the basis of the fact that the the two were alone in the room because there is a possibility that he did the wound to himself but what if the wound is in a place where it's not possible thing to do it to himself right the gamora's between his shoulder blades at the back of his back he has this wound and the only way that he could have got it is if the other guy did it and as I said when they went into this closed room we knew they did never would and when he came out of the closed room we see that he has the wound and he says the other guy did it the other guy contradicts and says no no I didn't he did it to himself nevertheless in such a case we can make the other guy pay for the damages because it's not possible that he did it to himself we know we know even though we haven't seen we have knowledge 100% knowledge that this other guy must have caused him the wound so we see them in cases of Jewish law you can rely on knowing something so what I hear is it different why in the case of milk do we do do do do we find that there's such a thing as Kyle of yourself even if that milk we're a Jew is there at the time of milking like if it doesn't have to be the Jew milked the cow the Jew was there at the time of milking to make sure that the milk is cow's milk why why isn't the knowledge that we have the fact that we know that nothing else was mixed in why isn't that enough the moshe feinstein asks the same question and he says that in america where the authorities control the production of milk and they have very strict rules and they have fines and taking away of licenses for anyone who was caught selling anything other than pure cow's milk so he says yeah he said you can realizing as he has put there's knowledge you know that what you're buying is cow's milk you would be able to do to drink milk even if a Jew was not there at the time of milking and that's what we call high love akkem like Hal of aqua means as a Jew was not there at the time when their cat animal was milk says emotion feinstein you can do it we know you know you know it's milk nevertheless is emotion feinstein he writes in the same sugar he says but i don't do it i wouldn't drink such milk and he said someone who's a bow nefesh also shouldn't drink such milk some loser banned nefesh about Neda to mean someone who cares about their spiritual level why why wouldn't remote if Einstein during such milk oh we know we know that it's cow's milk what's the problem we know that in many of our mixes many of our mixes in there in the Jewish religion there are things that we don't understand there are plenty of things that we don't really understand why this we can eat and this we can't eat people can come up with all sorts of explanations that the kosher animals are docile animals that vegetable either they don't eat meat okay fine but if we were to find an exception to that rule that wouldn't we wouldn't be allowed to eat it if we were to find me a very docile animal that doesn't as it doesn't have that doesn't chew the cud and doesn't have a split hoof just because he's docile wouldn't be able to say well we know he's docile so I can't I can eat it there are plenty of things that we don't understand we don't really understand why we have to do nevertheless we know that eating kosher following the rules of high lockers of our avatar have a spiritual effect once someone is eating non kosher food it has a spiritual effect on them even though they're eating the same cow that the guy that eating kosher is eating the only difference between the two is the way that the animal was killed and the way that the non-jews killed our animal I'm sure they'll tell you too that we make sure we got out all the blood and it was done as humanely as possible they even say that it's more humane than the way we do it which is not true nevertheless we know that to eat non-kosher has a spiritual effect it's not just a question of knowing of knowing here it's a question of a spiritual effect that these things can happens we don't know enough to be able to tell you where in which particular Mitzvah it's going to have a spiritual effect on you and in which mitten is not going to have any an effect on you the moshe feinstein is telling us here that maybe maybe the thing of milk hollow userland halav aku maybe has a spiritual effect on you maybe it affects you spiritually if you drink Halla vacum Highland milk where a Jew was not there at the time of milking and promotion Feinstein is saying I'm not going to take any risks why should I take a risk with my with my with my soul like it's the most important thing that there is to me and so therefore his advices that person should be careful to have hallelu swirl all the time even though anyone that's having heard of Akram is certainly not doing anything wrong and definitely not that there's going to be any problem with their with their utensils at home with with it with a someone who's more stringent from using their utensil that certainly is not going to be a problem right and more than that or you could reroute your pegs they're not even doing anything wrong you can't say that they're doing anything wrong right because we know we know it's cow's milk but nevertheless know moshe feinstein is telling us here that someone who cares about his his soul will be more stringent what you should do I can't tell you it depends on each person on their spiritual level and where they're holding at any particular time in their life as to whether this and where they also go depends on where they're living right whether you can get hold of hallowee-- so it's not something you can get everywhere it's a question that each person needs to ask is our rabbi and to decide what's suitable for him certainly empty let me emphasize again that someone who's relying on challah back on in a in a country in a place where there are controls of the government on what's being sold and ensuring that it is only cow's milk then they're certainly doing nothing wrong someone who's relying on that they can rely on that but someone who's about emotion is time to and he should be taking on himself holidays well as I said I can't tell anyone what to do each person has to ask their own rabbi thank you