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She went up to Shuki and she told him
very gently, "So your father died." And
he said is gadasha.
Well, we were exactly 10, but there was
a problem. One of the 10 guys was Uval,
Armedic. Yuvall was from one of the shar
kibbutim. Uval's mother was an active
atheist. His father didn't believe in
religion. This is the way he was brought
up that religion to him was anathema ter
everything oh is really but he's the
10th man and here Shuki is saying kadesh
and if all 10 don't say oh man the doubt
guys are worth anything so we all looked
at you [music]
most people will probably assume and and
judge from what they see have no idea
that you were part of a combat battalion
unit in the Israeli army facing the
enemies in Lebanon and wherever mamish
eye to eye face to face. So why don't
you tell us you know a little bit about
that the same mistake you made the head
of northern command in 1984 in Lebanon
he made the same mistake what was happen
I was the intelligence NCO intelligence
on commission officer I was in charge of
all the targets all the maps high sense
intelligence but two years before in
Beirut when I came out of Beirut alive
in the first Lebanon war then I decided
I've got to look for who got that out of
their life that was Hashem and I made a
commitment to change my life. Okay,
that's when I started becoming
observant. And so already two years
later when I was on reserve duty, we
were 400 meters from the Amal front
lines before was founded. That was
called El Amal. That was the Shiite
terrorist, the Shiite fighters. And
their front line was 400 line 400 meters
from where we were. Had to go through a
forest right there. And there we were on
the forward most forward post. And I'm
with my battalion commander, my company
commander, and showing the maps, the
targets, finding the targets. Well, in
comes the head of northern command. He
says, "What's the Mashkia doing with all
these intel maps?" So [laughter] the the
the head commander, he he knew a lot of
us personally. And so the battalion
commander says, he says, "It's not the
Mashkia." He says, "You remember laser?"
He says, "What? Your intelligence?"
Yeah. He says, "That's laser." He says,
"That's laser." There it was. So the
question I have now is so which is the
disguise, the uh the soldiers outfit or
the uh or the rabbitic outfit?
>> It's part of the same person. You could
take a Jew away from Judaism, but he's
still a Jew. You could take a soldier
away from the IDF, but he's still a
soldier. When you kind them both, it's
what the Reb used to call, the armies of
Hashem. The one thing you learn in the
IDF is how to be a good soldier. the
discipline you see people that don't get
up for synagogue at night to get up
forot especially this time of the year
when you know you have to get up if I
get up for general inspection 3:30
morning I get up in general for general
inspe for general prayer for stay
freshem I hear 100% but let me ask you I
didn't go to the army and uh you know I
was I have unc unconventional child
raising so what do people more like us
that were not used to you know being
robots and being so so focused on on
routine and regimen. I mean, how does a
person that's not so perfect in getting
up every morning and being in the right
place at the right time, how does he
approach this idea of the the yoke of
heaven and and and being a Jew and doing
all of the mitzvah?
>> Urizor, who was a fantastic comedian, he
didn't throw away his past. He brought
his past into Torah. So then when I
first had trouble in Gomorrah, before I
went to Torah, I found out that I had
grandparent great-grandparents that were
stolen. I said, "Where's they stolen in
Israel? It's called Carlen." So I did
total immersion Torah and me Sharim.
What a me started learning more in
Yiddish. And here I was learning.
>> How's your Yiddish now?
>> My Yiddish is it's pretty good. It's
It's pretty gooding.
So there I was already the big shot
university graduate. I had degree in
agriculture in Maryland and from a good
combat unit and this etc etc etc. And
I'm sitting in yeshiva with a kid 17
years old and pimples on his nose and he
says to him,
"You don't understand the question of
Gomorrah." I felt like the biggest idiot
in the world. Wow. Rabbi Brody, this is
incredible what you're saying because
you know we talk a talk, you know,
rabbis generally talk, but living
through the things you're speaking
about. I mean, so honestly, people
listen to anyone on YouTube today,
anyone in social media, and the truth
is, are you really listening to the
right person? Do this does this person
really know what he's talking about? And
does he has he earned the right to
speak? But here, I'm [clears throat]
sitting before someone that has earned
the right to speak. Who better to ask
about Israel and Israel making it
through this birth pangs that it's going
through identity crisis almost god
forbid civil war an end to democracy
which I can't say that without without
smiling and laughing because we know
what democrats and here the leftists
mean by an end of democracy I mean the
the end of their control of democracy of
course I revealed where I stand but
let's hear what you have to say Rabbi
Brody about what we Israel as a nation
as a people as human beings beings at
the center of so much attention can do
to save us from the the harsh
predictions of of destruction and world
wars and and please we need we need a
light in this incredible darkness that
we're in the middle of Rabbi one word
answer that's unity you say unity that's
easy to be unity with a guy doesn't
believe like me a guy's from a a leftist
kibbutz and I'm from a religious or
natural I'm from a yeshiva or whatnot
here's the thing
when You have to face a lifethreatening
situation and I know that I might need
you at my back and you know that you
might need me. That is a brotherhood and
I'll give you an example. To this day I
get calls from guys I name and last week
last week I heard from my old battalion
commander. There is a brotherhood in
arms when you know you have a mutual
commitment. Now if we know that we here
in the land of Israel that this is the
future of the Jewish people you can look
what's happening England is going down
the drain America
like King David says being attacked from
the right being attacked from the left
the leftists are becoming really you
could see with the all the woke business
and all this and on the rightists with
the the the white supremacy the Jews as
all in history the Jews had a golden
age. We see this pattern repeating in
history. We saw this in the golden age
of Spain. We saw the golden age of
Germany. And it comes out Hashem doesn't
want the golden age. There's only one
gold like that the the the the Jews that
came from Europe to America and Yiddish.
They come to New say the golden of
Medina. The the golden they they call
that the golden state. It's not the
golden state. There's only one the gold.
That's
Jerusalem of gold. That's the gold we
have to believe in where Jerusalem are
rebuilt holy temple and this is the
future for all of us. So we have to know
that we have a mutual responsibility to
perpetuate ourselves and stay alive same
way we stayed alive always same. Okay.
Um [clears throat] I what I want to ask
you I hear that you have a military
background. You were a soldier and you
carry that with you which I think is
amazing. What about the karedi the very
religious people or someone like me that
was just too old and too out of shape to
even be part of our army? There's a big
idea of polar opposites. You're not with
us because you're not in the army. Uh
you're not with us because you don't
believe in God. So, how do we bring the
two people that are separated together?
So, I understand people like you that
that are together in the army and
together with Hashem can help bring us
together, but how do we get the two
polar opposites to come closer so we
could create some real lasting union
that brings God's kind of protection
upon us?
>> That's a great question. Did you ever
ask yourself why does everybody love
Kabad?
Why does everybody love Kabad?
>> They have
a Kabad a Kabad boy that doesn't serve
in the army. You'll see him in the
hospital and you'll see him bringing a
lul on sukot to a wounded soldier and
you'll see them say they show the love
and they show the care theat is the why
he spoke about the unity. You have to
show yourself your love. And even if you
don't say, "Well, listen, I'm not I'm a
Torah scholar. I'm a Torah student."
Then you have to learn for all of Claw.
You have to learn. I'll give you an
example. This a moving story. This is
something really I have three sons. Two
of these sons are Roshi Shivas today.
Okay? And the one son is a physical
therapist. But my two oldest boys, they
were both commandis units. My oldest son
was in the sea commandos, the equivalent
to US SEALs. Wow.
>> And my second son was in Duv Devon. It's
a really dangerous unit where they call
Mistim. They dress up like Arab. They go
into Arab villages, do something. Well,
my third son was about to go into the
army. And this way, they living in both
worlds. And my son Kagay today is the
the head of a coil right here in
Jerusalem. And I said to Kagay, I said,
"I'm giving you the option. You want to
go to the army or you want to go to
yeshiva?" And he says, "Aba, I want to
learn tone to go to yeshiva." I said,
"Okay, but I'm going to give you a
responsibility
just as your two older brothers are
risking their lives for Jewish people.
We're not talking about politics,
talking about their yes army, no army."
They grew up because that they grew up
in high school. I was still secular. And
by the time I became really religious,
they were already in high school,
already on their way into the army. When
I became religious, my third son, he was
still right about at before bar mitzvah.
And after bar mitzvah, I put him into a
religious school. And he wanted to
continue in yeshiva. I said, "Kagay,
as long as
Gilead and Daniel are awake, you're
going to be awake learning Torah because
you're responsible for your brothers.
You're going to learn Torah for your
brothers. And it's no easy life. You go
to sleep this and that. And the weekends
you're going to learn this and that. If
you're willing to learn Torah like that,
I'm willing to have you go on Shiva. All
right. He says, "Aba, I make a solemn
promise. I'm going to be on my guard in
the Gomorrah just as they're on their
guard in the army." And he became the
biggest masid ever came Roshiva. And the
Roshiva took him. He married the
Roshiva's daughter.
But that's said within my own film,
there is there are places for people to
learn Torah, but we're talking about
really learning Torah. We're not talking
about convenience Torah where a guy
wants to learn Torah because they want
to go to work. No. Just as the combat
soldier is dedicating himself to
protecting the country, we have to
dedicate ourselves to protect the combat
soldier and to protect the spiritual
safety of the Jewish people.
>> So I here this is this is a very nice
approach. What I'd like to perhaps add
is, you know, what what what what could
be really un underneath the superficial
division is the idea that we don't care
enough for each other. Meaning
>> exactly bingo.
>> A person that that just chooses the
sight of God, I think it comes together
with choosing to accept to to have at
least a mindset that I am responsible
for and I care about all of God's
children. And this even extends to the
entire world. And so I think we have a
responsibility to help these people
wherever they are to feel that we care
about them and that they're part of our
mindset. They're on our mind. They're on
our heart and and vice versa. I'm sure
so many of the people that we think are
so polar opposite and hate us don't hate
us as much as we think from far away. We
need to get closer in many ways. And I
think we'll see that a lot of this is
the Sahara that creates smoke. And in
that smoke, we think there's a fire. But
the fire of hate, I don't think is as
real as we make it out to be. When you
see I I saw that I saw that in the army.
Inside the army, you can see we had guys
from all kinds of backgrounds, religious
backgrounds, secular backgrounds,
kibbutz backgrounds, right-wing there,
people from Betar, right-wing Jerusalem.
But when a guy had to say kadesh,
something moving, I'll never forget. We
came back from a mission. We came back
from a mission in Lebanon and it was a
dangerous mission. And when we got back
to the border, battalion commander, unit
commander and the head of northern
command and there was Captain Reena. She
was our welfare officer. I said, "What
is Captain Reena doing at a debriefing?
She's a welfare officer. She should be
back at the base." She went up to Shuki
and she told him very gently, "So your
father died." Wshuki came from a
Jerusalem Moroccan background, very
traditional. He himself was a family
kept Shabbat family as he did. But he
right away took and he put a hat back on
us. He started crying and he said,
"We were exactly 10 with the battalion
commander and another command. We were
that they were exactly 10, but there was
a problem. One of the 10 guys was Yuvall
Armedic. Uuvall was from from one of the
uh in the south one of the share
kibbutim. Uval's mother was an active
atheist. His father didn't believe in
this is why he was brought up that
religion to him was anma
everything. Oh he is really but he's the
10th man. And here Shuki is saying
kadesh and if all 10 don't say amen the
top are worth anything. So we all looked
at Yuva. Okay. And Shuki said that he
put his hand on his head. He said Omain.
If his mother and father heard that they
would have killed him. But no that's the
brotherhood. That's the type of
brotherhood in arms we had where even
this guy we had respect from each other.
Why' you have so much respect for each
other? because we had to take care of
each other.
>> Amazing. You know what you're making me
think about over here. What I want to
share is something maybe the exact
opposite of what you're saying. I don't
know if I have the answer, but maybe
maybe we'll hear what the Rev has to
say. We talk about, which is odd, the
idea of defending your Judaism,
defending the Torah, defending the idea
of God's mitzvah. Now, I understand this
in America or in other places where
there's anti-semitism, but hearing it in
Israel in God's land and the whole idea
of it's Israel and it's a Jewish nation
and a Jewish state, it's it's just it's
hard for my mind to just, you know, get
a handle on this. But even even more so,
what I wanted to do is flip the script a
bit and bring out this point. Yes, it's
good when the secular Jews accept and
embrace us and our way and give us our
space. It's amazing. What about the
other way? You know, we have a very big
uh challenge and an obstacle is that we
can tell ourselves we're the good guys.
We're right. God's on our side. But you
know what? In the name of these holy and
sacred things, we could be sometimes
going so far that we cause separation
and hatred in in what we think we're
doing for Hashem. And I tell other
people, who said Hashem hired you to do
that? I have to remember this is great
point but this is something I try to
share people with my background I came
up and my parents weren't religious they
were very Zionistic we had when when
Robin was shagrier when he was
ambassador in Washington he was guest
for us for dinner for Friday night
dinner when my parents came to Israel
they were active in the Zionist movement
uh they went to see golden Mayor my
mother was an artist and sculptor she
the bust of golden mayor They had
offices. My mother made that. Okay. B
Hashem. And uh that's it. But I remember
I wasn't always like that. I didn't
always have the beard. I didn't always
have the payers behind my ears. I came
up strictly secular and that
conservative schol in Silver Spring,
Maryland. And that's it. There are
people there. So you have to know that
Hashem has people born this people born.
She has people Everything is from
Hashem. If you believe in Hashem, he
alone did, does and will do. that people
look at someone doesn't believe like
them as the enemy. That's not the enemy.
That's where this particular person is
in life. This particular person has his
own journey, has his own soul
correction. Accept it and believe it.
He's a Jew. He's one of us. That's it.
So, I don't have to agree with him. I
don't have to agree with you to respect
you. That's the point I hear. I think
that the takeaway is that we even when
you feel like your your your side is the
side that's right and the other person
is wrong. That's where the real avas
Israel kicks in for you to be able to
embrace and include that person in your
world as well and give him the respect
that he needs.
>> But see that I'm I'm not the right
person. I'm the privileged person that
opened my eyes. Okay, didn't have an
easy time with me. He had to take me to
the brink. There were a couple of times
that this was not my first war when I
made Shuva when I decided to look for
Hashem. There were very dangerous
situations before that, but uh
reinforced concrete up here. So when if
I know I've got reinforced concrete up
here, it takes a Hashem needs a a
sledgehammer to break through, then I
got to be patient with other people.
>> Excellent point. uh you know I think
maybe right now let's face really the uh
the most the crucial and important thing
that we have to all try to work on right
now I think is this what do we do now to
protect us from all all of the harm that
we hear that when we're fighting it just
encourages our enemies uh it also
weakens us spiritually makes us more
vulnerable to their sword which is the
ancient terminology but their missiles
and their bombs and their guns what's
the direction we could take Now,
hopefully people out there are listening
to us to really make a real change here,
especially with elections coming up.
It's funny, the elections, I think, are
just a sideeshow. The real elections are
is who we choose to dismiss and who we
choose to embrace and accept. Okay,
there's a I'm going to paraphrase the
American President John F. Kennedy. John
F. Kennedy said, "Ask not what your
country could do for you, ask what you
could do for your country." Okay, say
that. We should all ask ourselves, what
can I do to make the Jewish people a bit
stronger? What can I do? So, one person
can visit a hospital. One person can
need woolen hats for a Golani soldier in
the winter. One person could decide that
he's going to learn an extra half hour a
day. Even after all the other guys go
back from Kao Yeshiva, he's going to
above that. This extra half hour is
exclusively for the soldiers of Israel.
If we all make this decision to get out
of this box of ego, what can I do for my
people and my country? Just ask that
question. And once you ask that
question, you've got 50% of the answer.
I have another another question to ask
and hopefully the right answer we'll all
find is am I going to choose to hate a
entire group of people without even
getting to know who they are or trying
to? Am I going to allow someone else's
hate and someone else's view to to to
define me? Am I just a puppet? Am I just
a robot?
>> Let me ask you a question. Yes, that's a
great question. Let me ask you a
question.
>> If I say, "Hey, listen.
I've got the greatest cheeseburger in
the world. Have a bite." What are you
talking? You're going crazy.
Of course not. Not that. But I said,
"Enjoy it and then do chuva. It's easy."
So do chuva. That's milk and meat.
That's just And no, but I that's that's
an That is a transgression between man
and Hashem. Hashem is so loving. All you
do is your forgiveness. Ask him
forgiveness. Confess what you did. Ask I
went crazy with my my my lust, my
appetite. Okay. And finished. Finished.
Chuva. To believe in Hashem means that
we believe in chuva. Their slate is
clean. Hold it. But you decided, heaven
forbid, not you. Someone decided to hate
another group of people that they're
Jews.
hate another group of people. Wait a
second. That is a transgression between
man and fellow man. You know what the
shor says on Yum Kipper? You don't come
to Yum Kipper and hit yourself on the
chest. Oh, forgive me. Hold it. That's
only good for the cheeseburger. That's
good for the cheeseburger. But that's
not good for the hatred of the fellow
man. For the hatred of the fellow man.
If you hate somebody that you don't
like, you have to ask forgiveness from
them. If you said slander about someone
else, you have to forgiveness from them.
And until when when you plate and ask
forgiveness from another human being,
that's chuva man to fellow man. You
know, I'll even add the end of the day,
we think it's so important to be good
with God and we ignore or or we're not
able to, let's call it a maybe even we
we might want to we were not so great
with our fellow people. So the Balatanya
the founder of the movement has a
beautiful story whereas asks him what's
more important what's greater in the end
of the day loving God or loving your
fellow and he answers what could be
greater than loving the one that God
himself loves and so we have it
backwards literally backwards when we
talk about yam kipper it's a day that we
try to be like angels and we try to you
know focus on praying all day long
talking to God and almost like trying to
fly away to heaven to be with God and we
feel like it's all about being okay with
God. The day has nothing to do with the
forgiveness of our fellow that has to
happen actually before yip where you
actually make peace with all the people
around you. And this brings me to a
beautiful a beautiful insight I want to
share with you is the aiz says great
kabalist that in the end of the day yam
kipur is only like another famous Jewish
day holiday. It's purim. Purim is
greater than yam kipur in some way. that
arisal explains it is it's like porim
but the real deal is porm and here's the
beautiful takeaway you want to be an
angel and you want to reach God who says
you're an angel who says you're going to
reach him but on por we say let's have a
let's sit together with unity with a
with love with with friendliness giving
and and and being married together all
of God's children Hashem says you don't
have to come to me I'm coming down to
you after everything we've talen about
the King Solomon said all the rivers
come to the sea. Everything we spoke
about it brings us together to a to
unity and that is the future and unity
means loving each other. Loving each
other does have it's not like physical
love with Hollywood love. It means
respecting knowing that what I love
about you is that you have within you a
divine soul. I have a divine soul. This
soul is spiritual DNA. What the Zor
says, your soul is a tiny chip of
Hashem. My soul is tiny chip of Shem. So
since you have Hashem's DNA, I have
Hashem's spiritual DNA. That means we're
brothers. And we have to remember that
no matter what the physical
manifestations, this brings us together.
The physical, this one's white, this
one's black, this one's red. That
separates us. But remember, we focus on
spirituality. Remember that every one of
us is a child of Hashem. And that brings
us together.
>> Amen. Excellent. What I want to add is
one point I want to push. I'm always
about I'm the Baltu. I came from very
far away. I think so am I.
>> Amazing. So you'll enjoy hopefully this
push. I won't be pushing you. You'll
come with me. We It's great that we love
each other because we both are children
of God. We have the divine spark. But
you know what? I think we got to work on
even loving that animal in the other
guy. That that not so perfect part of
that guy. That's what we got to work on
also.